Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-27 Thread Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law



they get a back-door amendment to their contract, with no public process, 
that extends it and allows them to charge more in the future


On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Florian Weimer wrote:



* Chris Woodfield:


Said the flowerpot: "Oh no, not again..."

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8DEL2TO7.htm?
campaign_id=apn_tech_down&chan=tc


I don't understand what VeriSign receives in return for their kowtow
(under the agreement, they basically waive any right to criticize
ICANN's role).

Two possible explanations:

 * ICANN signalled a positive outcome of a future Sitefinder review
   under the new process.

 * ICANN promised to grant VeriSign the DNSSEC root and .ARPA
   maintenance without tender (the "Root Server Management Transition
   Agreement" goes into that direction; actually, the .ARPA stuff is
   the interesting one).

 * VeriSign has recognized that they couldn't win in court, and
   suddenly want to play nice.



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Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-25 Thread John Levine

>I don't understand what VeriSign receives in return for their kowtow
>(under the agreement, they basically waive any right to criticize
>ICANN's role).

As someone else noted, a perpetual cash cow in .COM with 7%/year
escalator clause.

>  * ICANN signalled a positive outcome of a future Sitefinder review
>under the new process.

Nope, there's this complex process with outside experts to review any
new proposed sitefinder like thing.

>  * ICANN promised to grant VeriSign the DNSSEC root and .ARPA
>maintenance without tender (the "Root Server Management Transition
>Agreement" goes into that direction; actually, the .ARPA stuff is
>the interesting one).

My reading is the opposite, ICANN will create the root zone now.

>  * VeriSign has recognized that they couldn't win in court, and
>suddenly want to play nice.

Quite possibly and don't be silly.  More concretely, they probably
decided they were unlikely to win more than this agreement gives them.

R's,
John




Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-25 Thread Todd Vierling

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Florian Weimer wrote:

> >> Two possible explanations:
> >
> > 2+2=5, right? :)
>
> Oops. 8-)



No, you got it right.  The [third] option at the end, "play nice", has only
a passing association to the realm of possibility.



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Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-25 Thread Florian Weimer

* william elan net:

> They get to continue to be .COM registry forever as new agreement
> would extend to 2012 and then automatically extended further without 
> formal process as it happened recently for .NET. They also are going
> to be able to increase registry fees for .COM by 7% per year which to
> put it in perspective can potentially be $2 increase 4 years from now.

So the deal makes indeed sense from a business perspective.  Thanks.

>> Two possible explanations:
>
> 2+2=5, right? :)

Oops. 8-)


Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-25 Thread william(at)elan.net



On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Florian Weimer wrote:


http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8DEL2TO7.htm?
campaign_id=apn_tech_down&chan=tc


I don't understand what VeriSign receives in return for their kowtow
(under the agreement, they basically waive any right to criticize
ICANN's role).


They get to continue to be .COM registry forever as new agreement
would extend to 2012 and then automatically extended further without 
formal process as it happened recently for .NET. They also are going

to be able to increase registry fees for .COM by 7% per year which to
put it in perspective can potentially be $2 increase 4 years from now.


Two possible explanations:


2+2=5, right? :)


 * ICANN signalled a positive outcome of a future Sitefinder review
   under the new process.

 * ICANN promised to grant VeriSign the DNSSEC root and .ARPA
   maintenance without tender (the "Root Server Management Transition
   Agreement" goes into that direction; actually, the .ARPA stuff is
   the interesting one).

 * VeriSign has recognized that they couldn't win in court, and
   suddenly want to play nice.



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Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-24 Thread Florian Weimer

* Chris Woodfield:

> Said the flowerpot: "Oh no, not again..."
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8DEL2TO7.htm? 
> campaign_id=apn_tech_down&chan=tc

I don't understand what VeriSign receives in return for their kowtow
(under the agreement, they basically waive any right to criticize
ICANN's role).

Two possible explanations:

  * ICANN signalled a positive outcome of a future Sitefinder review
under the new process.

  * ICANN promised to grant VeriSign the DNSSEC root and .ARPA
maintenance without tender (the "Root Server Management Transition
Agreement" goes into that direction; actually, the .ARPA stuff is
the interesting one).

  * VeriSign has recognized that they couldn't win in court, and
suddenly want to play nice.


ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-24 Thread Chris Woodfield


Said the flowerpot: "Oh no, not again..."

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8DEL2TO7.htm? 
campaign_id=apn_tech_down&chan=tc


-C