Re: Re[2]: KPNQWEST cease operation?

2002-06-14 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist




 I am sorry, their NOC is located in Belgium.


Well, there is operational staff all across Europe. If that is enough to 
keep the network up - I don't know. There are other issue playing in as 
well on what can be kept up. Notice that the message sent out is that the 
volunteer NOC will shutdown the Ebone part of the network. Not sure why, 
and what they think they will gain though.

Best regards,

- kurtis - / KQ for two more days.





Re: KPNQWEST cease operation?

2002-06-14 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox



I think this is the article?


Employees of KPNQwest's operations centre in Brussels have threatened to
shut down the internet network on Friday at 5pm local time if the business
does not receive a firm takeover offer.

We want a deal signed, sealed and delivered or we will shut down, said
Graham Kinsey, a network operator. Mr Kinsey is one of the 350 Ebone
employees who have been working unpaid to keep the network operating since
they were fired last week.

The bank lenders and trustees will today decide how much of the
receivables collected earlier this week will go to Ebone and how much will
be allocated to KPNQwest. The trustees had hoped to collect enough money
to keep the businesses running until July 1, but fell short of that
goal. There should be enough money to keep the business operational for
the next couple of weeks, said someone close to the company.

The lenders and trustees hope the cash injection will be enough to appease
the employees, as a buyer would be likely to pay less for a dark network
that has been shut down. The Ebone network was acquired by KPNQwest in
March as part of the GTS takeover.

Mr Kinsey said the employee unions plan to walk out on any deal short of a
sale, because a sale is the only way all of the employees would keep their
jobs. He said the trustees asked the union for a list of 40 key people who
could keep the network running if there was not enough money to pay all of
them. But the employees would rather all walk out than be divided, he
said.

KPNQwest on Thursday received more than 40 indictive bids for all or part
of the company. Nearly all of the large international telecoms companies
were expected to express interest. The company and its advisers at Bear
Stearns will review the offers this week and will next week tell the
bidders how the sale will proceed and what assets will be grouped together
for sale.

It's like a Chinese menu element to the transaction with different
parties choosing to make an offer for different pieces, said someone close
to the situation. Ebone internet network customers include ATT, Cable 
Wireless, and Deutsche Telekom.
 
 
 


On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Neil J. McRae wrote:

 
 Anyone who isn't in the process of moving away from KQ/Ebone is
 in deep trouble and should act now to ensure you get on the
 list of an alternative nearer the top than the bottom. I've
 heard reports from various parts of Europe about issues
 and in todays FT it looks like the network will be shutdown
 by the NOC employees unless the company is bought outright!
 
 Regards,
 Neil.
 --
 Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 




Re: KPNQWEST cease operation?

2002-06-14 Thread Neil J. McRae


 What I wonder is what they mean by shutdown. If this means that the 
 equipment is unplugged, then how many of these alternate providers will 
 suddenly discover that they have a dependency on an Ebone SDH/SONET ADM or 
 an Ebone DWDM box? If management at these alternate providers is just 
 hunting through their databases looking for KPN/Qwest dependencies they 
 probably won't see the complete picture. KQ only completed the Ebone 
 acquisition back in March and about a year earlier, Ebone was doing 
 business under the name GTS or Global Telesystems. Most people who bought 
 wavelengths or leased lines from Ebone would have done it under those 
 names and most of those companies were carriers or network operators.
 
 This could get interesting. Personally, I hope that the NOC employees in 
 Brussels succeed in getting potential buyers to realize the value of a 
 functioning cross-border fiber network that covers all of Europe. 
 

Michael, I can't imagine a single carrier that doesn't know that
HER=GTS=EBONE=KQ. [Certainly by the volume of orders I've seen
somebody knows ! :D]

Regards,
Neil.
--
Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: KPNQWEST cease operation?

2002-06-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks

On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:37:04 BST, Neil J. McRae said:

 Michael, I can't imagine a single carrier that doesn't know that
 HER=GTS=EBONE=KQ. [Certainly by the volume of orders I've seen
 somebody knows ! :D]

You're only seeing orders from the ones who know.

The others you'll find out about at 8AM the next business day after KP's
network goes dark. ;)
-- 
Valdis Kletnieks
Computer Systems Senior Engineer
Virginia Tech




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Re: KPNQWEST cease operation?

2002-06-13 Thread Rafi Sadowsky



## On 2002-06-14 04:08 +0100 Chrisy Luke typed:

CL
CL ?$BLpEDIt?(B wrote (on Jun 14):
CL  I heard that NOC of KPQWEST in Frankfurt would cease operation at 1400
CL  hour (local time) today.
CL 
CL  Is there any additional information about this?
CL
CL http://live.ebone.com/ is probably about as much info as you can get unless

 You mean http://live.ebone.net/ or http://live.save-ebone.com/ ?

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Rafi