Re: Mailing list for AADS participants

2003-06-26 Thread Jeff Bartig

On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 06:12:21PM -0500, John Kristoff wrote:
 Regardless of what many of you may think of AADS generally, are
 there people who would be interested in joining an AADS mailing
 list, primarily to be used for broadcasting downtime notices or
 for discussing Chicago NAP specific issues.
 
 Perhaps a mailing list for other specific exchanges may be in
 order also and I'll entertain hosting those as well, but I'm
 presently interested in AADS since that is where we are at.
 
 Please reply offline.  If there appears to be enough interest
 I'll setup the list and make a single announcement here.  Please
 pass this on to others as appropriate.

People still use the AADS NAP?  :-(  All of the departures are
getting frustrating, especially after we upgraded our full OC-3
to an OC-12.  All our big peers went bankrupt or depeered with
us after that.

Sure, I would like to join this type of list.  It is too bad
that SBC doesn't already run a list like this or make any
effort to promote peering at the NAP.  Have you gotten any
other interest in it?

Jeff

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Jeff Bartig  |  University of Wisconsin - Madison
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  |  Division of Information Technology
(608) 262-8336   |  Network Services/WAN Engineering


Re: Mailing list for AADS participants

2003-06-26 Thread John Kristoff

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:24:14 -0500
Jeff Bartig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 effort to promote peering at the NAP.  Have you gotten any
 other interest in it?

About 7 replies so far, which may not warrant it I'm not sure.  It would
probably have been much more useful if we had it a few years ago.  Maybe
it could be made a little more generic to include other Chicago
facilities (e.g. Starlight, Equinix) - which is selfishly what I care
about, because that is where we are - but as I said I'd entertain
hosting others.

It would be nice to have a place where I can send facility specific
queries, downtown follow-ups and outage notifications to.  The list
would probably be very light in volume.  ...and better than maintaining
emails to all the peers due to infrequency of contact, comings, goings
and bounces.

In addition, an archive of exchange/nap specific activity might serve
some useful purposes for historians and researchers.

John


RE: Mailing list for AADS participants

2003-06-26 Thread Malayter, Christopher

Even more sad,

The product manager for AADS does not return phone calls, even after
multiple calls and voicemails. 

-Chris/AS4181

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From: Jeff Bartig
To: John Kristoff
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Sent: 6/26/03 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: Mailing list for AADS participants


On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 06:12:21PM -0500, John Kristoff wrote:
 Regardless of what many of you may think of AADS generally, are
 there people who would be interested in joining an AADS mailing
 list, primarily to be used for broadcasting downtime notices or
 for discussing Chicago NAP specific issues.
 
 Perhaps a mailing list for other specific exchanges may be in
 order also and I'll entertain hosting those as well, but I'm
 presently interested in AADS since that is where we are at.
 
 Please reply offline.  If there appears to be enough interest
 I'll setup the list and make a single announcement here.  Please
 pass this on to others as appropriate.

People still use the AADS NAP?  :-(  All of the departures are
getting frustrating, especially after we upgraded our full OC-3
to an OC-12.  All our big peers went bankrupt or depeered with
us after that.

Sure, I would like to join this type of list.  It is too bad
that SBC doesn't already run a list like this or make any
effort to promote peering at the NAP.  Have you gotten any
other interest in it?

Jeff

-- 
Jeff Bartig  |  University of Wisconsin - Madison
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  |  Division of Information Technology
(608) 262-8336   |  Network Services/WAN Engineering


Re: Mailing list for AADS participants

2003-06-26 Thread bmanning

 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 06:12:21PM -0500, John Kristoff wrote:
  Regardless of what many of you may think of AADS generally, are
  there people who would be interested in joining an AADS mailing
  list, primarily to be used for broadcasting downtime notices or
  for discussing Chicago NAP specific issues.
  
  Perhaps a mailing list for other specific exchanges may be in
  order also and I'll entertain hosting those as well, but I'm
  presently interested in AADS since that is where we are at.
  
  Please reply offline.  If there appears to be enough interest
  I'll setup the list and make a single announcement here.  Please
  pass this on to others as appropriate.
 
 People still use the AADS NAP?  :-(  All of the departures are
 getting frustrating, especially after we upgraded our full OC-3
 to an OC-12.  All our big peers went bankrupt or depeered with
 us after that.
 
 Sure, I would like to join this type of list.  It is too bad
 that SBC doesn't already run a list like this or make any
 effort to promote peering at the NAP.  Have you gotten any
 other interest in it?
 
 Jeff
 
I used to run exchange specific lists, including
one for AADS and PacBell. Once SBC finished its last
round of MA, they renumbered and dropped the lists.
I could resurect them if desired.

--bill


Mailing list for AADS participants

2003-06-24 Thread John Kristoff

Regardless of what many of you may think of AADS generally, are
there people who would be interested in joining an AADS mailing
list, primarily to be used for broadcasting downtime notices or
for discussing Chicago NAP specific issues.

Perhaps a mailing list for other specific exchanges may be in
order also and I'll entertain hosting those as well, but I'm
presently interested in AADS since that is where we are at.

Please reply offline.  If there appears to be enough interest
I'll setup the list and make a single announcement here.  Please
pass this on to others as appropriate.

John