Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread E.B. Dreger


> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:26:18 -0400
> From: Richard A Steenbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

(extensive snipping)


>  FDDI can only support up to, maby, T1 speed..
>  t1 = 1464kbps..
>  I always thought FDDI was frame relay..

Oh... my... goodness... these almost make my experiences dealing
with  seem
pleasant.


> 'nuf said...

Now, Richard... you could have been more helpful... and told him
how to get free bandwidth by using wireless to connect to a NAP,
thus making a Tier 1 backbone.

;-)

Personally, I think that having a kitten sell enterprise
connectivity would be much more cool...


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Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread Bill Woodcock


> CSO?

Cutting School to be Online.

-Bill





Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread Steven J. Sobol


On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> > CAR> Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change
> > CAR> the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y"
> > 
> > It's generation "K-12":
> > http://latency.net/~asr/wcom.jpg

> C|N>K
> Oh thats GOOD..

But... but... I've actually visited UUNET's NOC and seen kids that age
working at the consoles. ;)

CSO? 

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Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread n5tkn


On 8 Apr 2002, at 15:05, David Ulevitch wrote:

> 
> Hello Conrad,
> 
> Monday, April 8, 2002, 2:55:01 PM, you wrote:
> 
> >>  naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a
> >> public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting
> >> looks good on Leno
> 
> CAR> Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change
> CAR> the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y"
> 
> It's generation "K-12":
> http://latency.net/~asr/wcom.jpg
> 

C|N>K

Oh thats GOOD..


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Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread David Ulevitch


Hello Conrad,

Monday, April 8, 2002, 2:55:01 PM, you wrote:

>>  naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a
>> public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting
>> looks good on Leno

CAR> Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change
CAR> the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y"

It's generation "K-12":
http://latency.net/~asr/wcom.jpg

but to make this more OT, here are my woes of the moment:
http://nts.wustl.edu/~mrtg/brook0.20.html

Thanks,
 Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread measl



On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Conrad A. Rockenhaus wrote:

> 
> 
> >  naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a
> > public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting
> > looks good on Leno
> 
> Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change
> the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y"
> 
> 

Gotta admit it's an unusual choice for a "public face" though.

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Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread Conrad A. Rockenhaus


On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:



>  naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a
> public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting
> looks good on Leno

Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change
the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y"



--conradr




Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread measl



>  I think we can make money offering gig-e at the cost of a T1

I'll take two :-)

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If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread Richard A Steenbergen


> Recently my personal system has been attacked by someone from the IRC
> channel #nanog on EFNet. This along with multiple instances of
> showing/providing pornography to minors as well as defamation of
> character/slander as well as numerous other civil and criminal items
> have really plagued my past 3 months. I think it's time to look into
> fighting back.
> 
> Other than to warn others of the pending danger of dealing with the
> immature people found within that channel, I would love to know what all
> legal recourse I have in this matter. I have a lawyer but I am not quite
> ready to sue.

Why Nick Catalano was banned from #nanog:

 dgold: Dsl works via ATM, thats layer3

 it's layer4 in the way that it uses POS instead of ATM standard..

 FDDI can only support up to, maby, T1 speed..

 t1 = 1464kbps..

 I always thought FDDI was frame relay..

 OC-192 over POIP is as dumb as you get it..

 if this business works out.. the first thing I am doing is 
having my engineers give me some way of making a layer 4 nap.. even if 
it's pure bullshit.. and then I am presening it @ Nanog

 DS3 IS NOT FIBER ||  gavroche: of course it is..

 UUNet has the world's worst designed network

 I go on the UUNet backbone, and I'm like.. where's the core!?

 I think we can make money offering gig-e at the cost of a T1

 naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a 
public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting 
looks good on Leno

 Cogent and InterNAP can be mixed and merged.. Cogent didn't 
fail. Cogent has almost no expenses. it costs next to nothing to be 
Cogent..  they own their network.. they own their equipment.. 
they don't pay for it.. there are no leased lines..  they most 
likely don't pay for transit..

 I am about to call my lawyer about this and file lawsuits 
against 95% of the #nanog room to find out who has taken advantage of my 
system

 ...also with logs of everything said in #nanog I have over 50 
cases of showing pornography to a minor..

'nuf said...

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Re: NANOG on Trial

2002-04-08 Thread william


R, leave this along will you... Nick is 14 years old and his word
can't be believed that much (see archives on that same isp-colo). 
To me his post was no more then a bad joke...

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Paul Revere wrote:

> 
> * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> * Subject: Legal Recourse
> * From: "Nick Catalano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:07:46 -0600
> 
> 
> Recently my personal system has been attacked by
> someone from the IRC
> channel #nanog on EFNet. This along with multiple
> instances of
> showing/providing pornography to minors as well as
> defamation of
> character/slander as well as numerous other civil and
> criminal items
> have really plagued my past 3 months. I think it's
> time to look into
> fighting back.
> 
> Other than to warn others of the pending danger of
> dealing with the
> immature people found within that channel, I would
> love to know what all
> legal recourse I have in this matter. I have a lawyer
> but I am not quite
> ready to sue.
> 
> I fully expect to get flamed by this, of course. Yet I
> also expect most
> of those who flame me to be from Nanog.  I don't care
> how you play the
> game, but if you try to play me you can burn in hell.
> Strong words from
> a person who isn't going to take it anymore.
> 
> - Nick Catalano
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   n|Catalano Ventures :: The Next Generation is Coming
> Soon
> 
> 
> 
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NANOG on Trial

2002-04-07 Thread Paul Revere


* To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Subject: Legal Recourse
* From: "Nick Catalano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:07:46 -0600


Recently my personal system has been attacked by
someone from the IRC
channel #nanog on EFNet. This along with multiple
instances of
showing/providing pornography to minors as well as
defamation of
character/slander as well as numerous other civil and
criminal items
have really plagued my past 3 months. I think it's
time to look into
fighting back.

Other than to warn others of the pending danger of
dealing with the
immature people found within that channel, I would
love to know what all
legal recourse I have in this matter. I have a lawyer
but I am not quite
ready to sue.

I fully expect to get flamed by this, of course. Yet I
also expect most
of those who flame me to be from Nanog.  I don't care
how you play the
game, but if you try to play me you can burn in hell.
Strong words from
a person who isn't going to take it anymore.

- Nick Catalano
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
n|Catalano Ventures :: The Next Generation is Coming
Soon



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