RE: Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage
One time Agis (remember Agis) hired me to go down to the local Pennsauken NAP to find out what was wrong with their remote access to what was then a core router. Someone had swiped the $.10 silver satin cord for the modem. Had to be the cheapest theft with the highest consequences I have seen. Bil P.S. Damm networking business has screwed up my english, I keep wanting to type swip instead of swipe and swipped instead of swiped. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage On Tue, 4 May 2004, Andy Dills wrote: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583347,00.asp Law enforcement officials said four DS-3 cards were reported missing from a Manhattan co-location facility owned by Verizon Communications Inc. The theft at 240 E. 38th St. occurred just after 10:30 p.m. on Sunday and is Is this part really surprising to anyone who's got gear in unsupervised LEC colos where everyone is in open relay racks in a large open space? being investigated by New York City Police and members of the joint terrorism task force, according to NYPD spokesman Lt. Brian Burke. This seems a bit over the top. A couple years ago when we had a part stolen out of one of our routers in a WCOM colo facility, we couldn't get the local PD to do jack. A report was filed...but I think they filed it in the circular file, because nobody ever investigated, despite the fact that WCOM had just installed a card reader system to replace the simplex door locks, so in theory, they knew who was in the room when our stuff was stolen, but they refused to release the info to us. I guess we should have suggested it was an act of terrorism. Trying to fix our terrorism problem like this is like trying to fix the spam problem using IP-based blacklists. No...I'd say it's more like fighting the spam problem with nuclear weapons...now there's an idea. -- Jon Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]| I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net| _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
Re: Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Andy Dills wrote: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583347,00.asp Law enforcement officials said four DS-3 cards were reported missing from a Manhattan co-location facility owned by Verizon Communications Inc. The theft at 240 E. 38th St. occurred just after 10:30 p.m. on Sunday and is Is this part really surprising to anyone who's got gear in unsupervised LEC colos where everyone is in open relay racks in a large open space? being investigated by New York City Police and members of the joint terrorism task force, according to NYPD spokesman Lt. Brian Burke. This seems a bit over the top. A couple years ago when we had a part stolen out of one of our routers in a WCOM colo facility, we couldn't get the local PD to do jack. A report was filed...but I think they filed it in the circular file, because nobody ever investigated, despite the fact that WCOM had just installed a card reader system to replace the simplex door locks, so in theory, they knew who was in the room when our stuff was stolen, but they refused to release the info to us. I guess we should have suggested it was an act of terrorism. Trying to fix our terrorism problem like this is like trying to fix the spam problem using IP-based blacklists. No...I'd say it's more like fighting the spam problem with nuclear weapons...now there's an idea. -- Jon Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]| I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net| _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
Re: Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage
The disproportionate reaction doesn't surprise me in the least. I've been working in industrial fire/rescue within the petrochemical sector since I left the realm of ISPs. I've seen similar responses as a result of intoxicated subjects trying to climb facility fences or art-school students trying to take pictures of refining vessels. _ Tony Rowley | To confine our attention to terrestrial Lansdowne PA USA | matters would be to limit the human spirit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Professor Stephen Hawking
Re: Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage
I admit, my first reaction was, Maybe they should interview anyone that just brought in an empty router chassis and now has DS3's running... (gotta keep a hot spare after all) ** Reply to message from Stephen Sprunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 4 May 2004 09:37:10 -0500 Thus spake Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just in case any of you don't read slashdot: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583347,00.asp Law enforcement officials said four DS-3 cards were reported missing from a Manhattan co-location facility owned by Verizon Communications Inc. The theft at 240 E. 38th St. occurred just after 10:30 p.m. on Sunday and is being investigated by New York City Police and members of the joint terrorism task force, according to NYPD spokesman Lt. Brian Burke. One must wonder why the headline is Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage instead of Carrier Sercurity Negligence Causes Internet Outage. S Stephen SprunkStupid people surround themselves with smart CCIE #3723 people. Smart people surround themselves with K5SSS smart people who disagree with them. --Aaron Sorkin -- Jeff Shultz A railfan pulls up to a grade crossing hoping that there will be a train.
Re: Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Thus spake Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just in case any of you don't read slashdot: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583347,00.asp Law enforcement officials said four DS-3 cards were reported missing from a Manhattan co-location facility owned by Verizon Communications Inc. The theft at 240 E. 38th St. occurred just after 10:30 p.m. on Sunday and is being investigated by New York City Police and members of the joint terrorism task force, according to NYPD spokesman Lt. Brian Burke. One must wonder why the headline is Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage instead of Carrier Sercurity Negligence Causes Internet Outage. blame is bad, hype is good!
Re: Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Andy Dills wrote: So it's a fingerpointing battle, Sprint pointing fingers at Verizon, Verizon pointing fingers at terrorists. That's just a move to help further their argument that no one should be allowed to co-locate in COs. After all, it's a matter of national security... Charles Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 ---
Don't forget physical security: Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage
Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage May 3, 2004 By Sean Gallagher A handful of corporate customers were left without e-mail and Internet access Monday after the theft of networking equipment from a New York City office late Sunday. Law enforcement officials said four DS-3 cards were reported missing from a Manhattan co-location facility owned by Verizon Communications Inc. The theft at 240 E. 38th St. occurred just after 10:30 p.m. on Sunday and is being investigated by New York City Police and members of the joint terrorism task force, according to NYPD spokesman Lt. Brian Burke. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583359,00.asp
Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage
Just in case any of you don't read slashdot: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583347,00.asp Law enforcement officials said four DS-3 cards were reported missing from a Manhattan co-location facility owned by Verizon Communications Inc. The theft at 240 E. 38th St. occurred just after 10:30 p.m. on Sunday and is being investigated by New York City Police and members of the joint terrorism task force, according to NYPD spokesman Lt. Brian Burke. 4 DS3 cards and the joint terrorism task force is called in? Aren't there enough gas tanks being stolen around the country for the joint terrorism task force to be kept busy? Trying to fix our terrorism problem like this is like trying to fix the spam problem using IP-based blacklists. Anyway, late in the article a spokesman for Sprint is quoted: Fleckenstein said that the outage was not major, and not large enough to require a report to the Federal Communications Commission. I just thought it was hilarious that a this outage is major enough to suspect terrorist motives and involve the appropriate agency, but not major enough to warrant reporting to the FCC. Sure, it didn't knock down the service of 50,000 customers, but doesn't it seem sad that an entire mid-sized city must lose service before the FCC gets to know about it? I think every fricking trouble ticket generated at an ILEC should be recorded at the FCC. It's not like they don't have the means and technology. It would be near-trivial, in fact, given their capabilities when properly motivated. Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 ---
Re: Network Card Theft Causes Internet Outage
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Andy Dills wrote: Just in case any of you don't read slashdot: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583347,00.asp Law enforcement officials said four DS-3 cards were reported missing from a Manhattan co-location facility owned by Verizon Communications Inc. The theft at 240 E. 38th St. occurred just after 10:30 p.m. on Sunday and is being investigated by New York City Police and members of the joint terrorism task force, according to NYPD spokesman Lt. Brian Burke. 4 DS3 cards and the joint terrorism task force is called in? Especially silly considering it's not a totally uncommon thing for bad things to happen to co-located CLEC gear/cabling in ex-Nynex territory. Charles Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 ---
