Re: Open WiFi Access Point BCP's???

2007-05-03 Thread Mike Hammett


I'd look at Mikrotik.  There's a listserv at part-15.org and a web forum at 
mikrotik.com



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


- Original Message - 
From: Deepak Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: nanog@merit.edu
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:58 PM
Subject: Open WiFi Access Point BCP's???





Anyone have any recommendations for  BCPs or software suggestions on 
running an open community-based access point (or network)?


Think: an urban area where potentially lots of people could be popping on 
and off with little authentication. These seem to be pretty prevalent 
around Panera's and other things -- I just don't know what they are doing 
to manage (rather that prevent) P2P and Spam, etc uses.


Pointers very appreciated!!

Thanks,

DJ





Open WiFi Access Point BCP's???

2007-04-27 Thread Deepak Jain



Anyone have any recommendations for  BCPs or software suggestions on 
running an open community-based access point (or network)?


Think: an urban area where potentially lots of people could be popping 
on and off with little authentication. These seem to be pretty prevalent 
around Panera's and other things -- I just don't know what they are 
doing to manage (rather that prevent) P2P and Spam, etc uses.


Pointers very appreciated!!

Thanks,

DJ


Re: Open WiFi Access Point BCP's???

2007-04-27 Thread MARLON BORBA

If you want to follow just one rule, it's this:-

Instruct your users to never (I mean NEVER) use applications which run
over unencrypted protocols.
Security first.


Abraços,

Marlon Borba, CISSP, APC DataCenter Associate
Técnico Judiciário - Segurança da Informação
TRF 3 Região
(11) 3012-1683
--
Dont just sit there and think it does not matter.
-Security is the problem we love to ignore.
(David Clark, 1992)
--

 Deepak Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/4/2007 17:58:28 


Anyone have any recommendations for  BCPs or software suggestions on 
running an open community-based access point (or network)?

Think: an urban area where potentially lots of people could be popping

on and off with little authentication. These seem to be pretty
prevalent 
around Panera's and other things -- I just don't know what they are 
doing to manage (rather that prevent) P2P and Spam, etc uses.

Pointers very appreciated!!

Thanks,

DJ


Re: Open WiFi Access Point BCP's???

2007-04-27 Thread Brandon Galbraith

On 4/27/07, MARLON BORBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



If you want to follow just one rule, it's this:-

Instruct your users to never (I mean NEVER) use applications which run
over unencrypted protocols.
Security first.


Abraços,



Indeed. If you know ahead of time unencrypted 802.11(whatever) is going to
be used, *always* use a VPN or tunnel of some sort to secure your traffic
(if the apps you'll be using have no native encryption).


Re: Open WiFi Access Point BCP's???

2007-04-27 Thread Jerry Dixon
You can visit the US-CERT website at http://www.us-cert.gov/reading_room/  for 
overview and recommendations on wireless.

Jerry
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brandon Galbraith 
  To: MARLON BORBA 
  Cc: Deepak Jain ; nanog@merit.edu 
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 7:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Open WiFi Access Point BCP's???


  On 4/27/07, MARLON BORBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you want to follow just one rule, it's this:-

Instruct your users to never (I mean NEVER) use applications which run
over unencrypted protocols.
Security first.


Abraços,



  Indeed. If you know ahead of time unencrypted 802.11(whatever) is going to be 
used, *always* use a VPN or tunnel of some sort to secure your traffic (if the 
apps you'll be using have no native encryption).


Re: Open WiFi Access Point BCP's???

2007-04-27 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian


On 4/28/07, Deepak Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Anyone have any recommendations for  BCPs or software suggestions on
running an open community-based access point (or network)?



MAAWG BCPs on walled gardens (probably coming soon if not already out
there).  Quite a few ISPs - Bell Canada for example - are already
doing this on a large scale.

As these coffee shop APs are usually running off a standard DSL line -
its not muni wifi as such - a walled garden should nail abuse very
fast, and encourage sensible firewalling on the part of the coffee
shop owner .. or he'll find that a NAT'ted IP with multiple infected
laptops coming and going out of it might be in and out of a walled
garden all the time.

There's some vendors who concentrate on walled garden stuff - Perftech
(www.perftech.com) for example.  Arbor and Sandvine too have kit that
can be used for this, I believe .. of course, at the edge of an ISP's
DSL network.

srs