Re: Iraqi TLD

2005-02-23 Thread Jeroen Massar
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 17:42 +, Ken Gilmour wrote:
Does anyone know if the .iq tld has been reinstated yet? I believe it 
was disabled a couple of years ago.

It is now in the hands of some US company:


iq. 172800  IN  NS  NS1.MYNET.NET.
iq. 172800  IN  NS  NS2.MYNET.NET.
;; Received 97 bytes from 128.8.10.90#53(D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 90 ms

iq. 0   IN  SOA faith.mynet.net.
hostmaster.infocomcorp.com. 2002091902 10800 3600 604800 0
;; Received 97 bytes from 208.21.175.13#53(NS2.MYNET.NET) in 119 ms

Also see: http://nic-iq.nic-naa.net/

Greets,
 Jeroen



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Re: Iraqi TLD

2005-02-23 Thread John Neiberger

 Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/23/05 10:49:47 AM 
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 17:42 +, Ken Gilmour wrote:
Does anyone know if the .iq tld has been reinstated yet? I believe it

was disabled a couple of years ago.

It is now in the hands of some US company:

Isn't that pretty much true for the entire country of Iraq? :)

John
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RE: Iraqi TLD

2005-02-23 Thread Larry Rosenman

John Neiberger wrote:
 Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/23/05 10:49:47 AM 
 On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 17:42 +, Ken Gilmour wrote:
 Does anyone know if the .iq tld has been reinstated yet? I believe
 it 
 
 was disabled a couple of years ago.
 
 It is now in the hands of some US company:
 
 Isn't that pretty much true for the entire country of Iraq? :)
 
 John

And infocom was shutdown by the feds for terrorism reasons.



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Re: Iraqi TLD

2005-02-23 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine

Oki all,

I suppose I should update what I have up at {nic,noc}-iq.nic-naa.net.

At the Rome meeting I spoke (open mic) to the ICANN BOD about the issue.
That was a year ago.

A week before the Asian Tsunami David Cuthbertson wrote to me and asked
about the delegation. He works for Adam Smith International out of the
British Embassy, Baghdad and his client was the Iraqi government created
by US/UK military. The quotation marks and the created by ... is my
commentary, not his.

I gave him my understanding of the situation and my advice freely, knowing
that he and/or his client wouldn't take the core nugget -- talk to the
current delegee and find a way to arrange either restarted operations (as
simple as a NS change request) or a consensual change of delegation. 

Shortly after the Asian Tsunami I faxed Vint Cerf a letter on the status
of .iq and reviewed the arguements that could be brought by a party seeking
a non-consensual change of delegation. Naturally, IANAL, but then again,
what lawyer knows anything about this rather arcane area of policy? Vint
was in India at the time and I was more interested in aid getting to the
tribal people in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands than .iq, which has been
on hold for two years already, and the Indian military were keeping any of
the medical aid, or aid workers, from MSF or Oxfam, from getting to the
tribal areas.

There was an exchange of notes on .iq, mostly of my views on the danger to
the system of internet governance and my views on the export rule infraction,
and a suggestion.

I haven't heard anything since.

I suppose everyone on the *NOG lists understands that .iq could be a very
bushy tree, with leaf nodes that resolve to live machines containing data
germane to the leaf-node-name, not necessarily in Iraq, and with one or
more levels of subdelegation, for schools, hospitals, and so on, reflecting
the academic and civil society, as well as several transitional governments,
refugees, NGOs, International Treaty Organizations, and interested foreign
governments and businesses. The no power, no wires, therefor no dns kind
of nonsense doesn't need refuting here.

Eric


Re: Iraqi TLD

2005-02-23 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine

 And infocom was shutdown by the feds for terrorism reasons.

The DOJ advanced three claims: an INS claim, an exports rule infraction
claim, and a charity-linked-to-Hammas (a/k/a terrorism) claim. The 1st
was dismissed, the second obtained a precedent-setting convinction and
an unprecedented sentencing as fines are the rule, and the DOJ has not
set a date to try the third claim.

So, yes, former Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert
Mueller and Michael Chertoff, then Director, Terrorist Financing Task
Force, now Secretary of Homeland Security, did personally conduct the
prosecution of Infocom and assert that it was a major terrorist case,
but ... that was back in December 2002, when standards were lower than at
present.

Oblig operational item -- does anyone know of a comperable situation? An
LEO deciding to seize all XYZ Corp properties in SomeState(s), including
all RIR allocations made to XYZ Corp, whether for its internal use or for
resale, and locking up everyone down to the first-tier line manager level?

Eric


Re: Iraqi TLD

2005-02-23 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)


-- Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oblig operational item -- does anyone know of a comperable
 situation? An LEO deciding to seize all XYZ Corp properties
 in SomeState(s), including all RIR allocations made to XYZ
 Corp, whether for its internal use or for resale, and
 locking up everyone down to the first-tier line manager
 level?

 Eric

No -- these are indeed interesting times that we live in.

- ferg

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