Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
I must point out that BellSouth's MIX is gone Also, I am curious about NOTA's lomng term plans given that most of the building where the NAP is at is rented by Global Crossing -- at least has been before ch. 11 - Original Message - From: "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ray Burkholder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: RE: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof. > > >> so, did any of the much-ballyhooed florida (misnomered) naps actually > >> manage to attract the significant (== big tier-1) isps? > > http://www.napoftheamericas.net/membersrepresentativecustomerlist.cfm > > http://www.napoftheamericas.net/memberscarriers.cfm > > are they connected and peering, i.e. packets moving, or just paying rent? > > randy >
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
On Fri Jan 10, 2003 at 12:08:08PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > >> so, did any of the much-ballyhooed florida (misnomered) naps actually > >> manage to attract the significant (== big tier-1) isps? > > http://www.napoftheamericas.net/membersrepresentativecustomerlist.cfm > > http://www.napoftheamericas.net/memberscarriers.cfm > > are they connected and peering, i.e. packets moving, or just paying rent? How many big tier-1 isps peer at public exchange points these days? I know Level-3, Abovenet, Genuity (although that's now Level3) do. I don't think Sprint, UUNet (in the US), AT&T do. I'm willing to be proven wrong. Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1628 407720 (BBC ext 37720) Technology Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1628 407701 (BBC ext 37701) BBC Internet Services | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BBC Technology, Maiden House, Vanwall Road, Maidenhead. SL6 4UB. UK
RE: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
>> so, did any of the much-ballyhooed florida (misnomered) naps actually >> manage to attract the significant (== big tier-1) isps? > http://www.napoftheamericas.net/membersrepresentativecustomerlist.cfm > http://www.napoftheamericas.net/memberscarriers.cfm are they connected and peering, i.e. packets moving, or just paying rent? randy
RE: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
http://www.napoftheamericas.net/membersrepresentativecustomerlist.cfm http://www.napoftheamericas.net/memberscarriers.cfm -Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 10, 2003 15:59 To: David Barak Cc: Bill Woodcock; Ray Burkholder; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof. > However, NOTA doesn't have either AT&T or WorldCom... so, did any of the much-ballyhooed florida (misnomered) naps actually manage to attract the significant (== big tier-1) isps? randy
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
> However, NOTA doesn't have either AT&T or WorldCom... so, did any of the much-ballyhooed florida (misnomered) naps actually manage to attract the significant (== big tier-1) isps? randy
RE: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
The helpful guy at NOTA indicated that ATT does have significant presence there. Worldcom is hidden in there somewhere as well. The only one that didn't have direct presence was T-Data, but was accessible through a different hop. I think the location fits my needs quite nicely based upon initial communications. Now it just comes down to logistics and negotiation. -Original Message- From: David Barak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 10, 2003 15:50 To: Bill Woodcock; Ray Burkholder Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof. However, NOTA doesn't have either AT&T or WorldCom... so if you don't mind using other carriers, there were a bunch of medium-size players, and I believe a couple of large ones there. David Barak fully RFC 1925 compliant. --- Bill Woodcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As many people have pointed out, NOTA, the NAP of > the Americas, in Miami, > is probably your best bet. > > -Bill > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
However, NOTA doesn't have either AT&T or WorldCom... so if you don't mind using other carriers, there were a bunch of medium-size players, and I believe a couple of large ones there. David Barak fully RFC 1925 compliant. --- Bill Woodcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As many people have pointed out, NOTA, the NAP of > the Americas, in Miami, > is probably your best bet. > > -Bill > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
I have some history of that effort. It did not gain traction and folded in less than a year. > > > Actually I know there was something of an IX starting down there > about 1999. I believe it was in the small cellular companies > facility. One of the guys from Netrail, Nathan Estes, went down to > help them out for a week. The name escapes me but perhaps he could > post it here if he recalls the details. > > At the time they had about 6 muxed T1s if I remember and were looking > at either bringing in a tier1 or getting a DS3 back to the states. > > David > > At 9:23 -0800 1/10/03, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ray Burkholder wrote: > > > Anyway, ATT has undersea fibre to Puerto Rico. We want to get a DS3 > > > into a Puerto Rico peering center where we can get connectivity to some > > > combo of ATT, Sprint, Worldcom, and T-Data. Is anyone familiar with > > > such a location in PR? > > > >I can say with reasonable certainty that one does not exist. > >http://www.pch.net/resources/data/exchange-points/ > >is the list, and we don't have anything in there for Puerto Rico, which > >means that there hasn't been one in the past, none presently that we know > >of, none in the planning stages that we know of, and no unsubstantiated > >rumors of one. > > > > > If not there, how about Florida? > > > >As many people have pointed out, NOTA, the NAP of the Americas, in Miami, > >is probably your best bet. > > > > -Bill > >
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
Actually I know there was something of an IX starting down there about 1999. I believe it was in the small cellular companies facility. One of the guys from Netrail, Nathan Estes, went down to help them out for a week. The name escapes me but perhaps he could post it here if he recalls the details. At the time they had about 6 muxed T1s if I remember and were looking at either bringing in a tier1 or getting a DS3 back to the states. David At 9:23 -0800 1/10/03, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ray Burkholder wrote: > Anyway, ATT has undersea fibre to Puerto Rico. We want to get a DS3 > into a Puerto Rico peering center where we can get connectivity to some > combo of ATT, Sprint, Worldcom, and T-Data. Is anyone familiar with > such a location in PR? I can say with reasonable certainty that one does not exist. http://www.pch.net/resources/data/exchange-points/ is the list, and we don't have anything in there for Puerto Rico, which means that there hasn't been one in the past, none presently that we know of, none in the planning stages that we know of, and no unsubstantiated rumors of one. > If not there, how about Florida? As many people have pointed out, NOTA, the NAP of the Americas, in Miami, is probably your best bet. -Bill
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ray Burkholder wrote: > Anyway, ATT has undersea fibre to Puerto Rico. We want to get a DS3 > into a Puerto Rico peering center where we can get connectivity to some > combo of ATT, Sprint, Worldcom, and T-Data. Is anyone familiar with > such a location in PR? I can say with reasonable certainty that one does not exist. http://www.pch.net/resources/data/exchange-points/ is the list, and we don't have anything in there for Puerto Rico, which means that there hasn't been one in the past, none presently that we know of, none in the planning stages that we know of, and no unsubstantiated rumors of one. > If not there, how about Florida? As many people have pointed out, NOTA, the NAP of the Americas, in Miami, is probably your best bet. -Bill
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof. (fwd)
Does Arcos hit the USVI? http://www.nwncable.com/ Their pricing looks good and they are close by to NAP of the Americas. Jeremy - Original Message - From: "Haesu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 9:14 AM Subject: Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof. (fwd) > > Hey, > Your best bet is to go with Miami, although it may be a bit > expensive to get longhaul circuits to there.. Miami is the closest major > bandwidth place from your location.. They even have internet exchange over > there on behalf of South and Central American based ISP's. > > -hc > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:00:57 -0500 > > From: Ray Burkholder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof. > > > > > > I work for an ISP in St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands. (If you happen to > > pass through, drop by for a visit). > > > > Anyway, ATT has undersea fibre to Puerto Rico. We want to get a DS3 > > into a Puerto Rico peering center where we can get connectivity to some > > combo of ATT, Sprint, Worldcom, and T-Data. Is anyone familiar with > > such a location in PR? > > > > If not there, how about Florida? > > > > Ray Burkholder > > > > >
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof. (fwd)
Hey, Your best bet is to go with Miami, although it may be a bit expensive to get longhaul circuits to there.. Miami is the closest major bandwidth place from your location.. They even have internet exchange over there on behalf of South and Central American based ISP's. -hc > > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:00:57 -0500 > From: Ray Burkholder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof. > > > I work for an ISP in St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands. (If you happen to > pass through, drop by for a visit). > > Anyway, ATT has undersea fibre to Puerto Rico. We want to get a DS3 > into a Puerto Rico peering center where we can get connectivity to some > combo of ATT, Sprint, Worldcom, and T-Data. Is anyone familiar with > such a location in PR? > > If not there, how about Florida? > > Ray Burkholder > >
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
I know that AT&T and WorldCom both have pops in San Juan. I'm not familiar with T-data. If you're looking for robustness, go with Miami: pretty much everyone has a pop there. David Barak fully RFC 1925 compliant --- Ray Burkholder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I work for an ISP in St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands. > (If you happen to > pass through, drop by for a visit). > > Anyway, ATT has undersea fibre to Puerto Rico. We > want to get a DS3 > into a Puerto Rico peering center where we can get > connectivity to some > combo of ATT, Sprint, Worldcom, and T-Data. Is > anyone familiar with > such a location in PR? > > If not there, how about Florida? > > Ray Burkholder __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Puerto Rico Peering Point, or existence thereof.
> If not there, how about Florida? http://www.napoftheamericas.net/ -- Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
