Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
Not to put too fine a point on it or undermine Paul's desire for people to take the survey in order to see results, but, this isn't a small delta in perception, either The overwhelming majority (more than almost 200 times as many) people thought it was a BAD IDEA than a good one. Decline-to-state and Web- Browsing-End-User tied, and one more Good idea response was had from a Domain-Name-Registrant for a total of 5 Good idea responses. Zowie I think that's the most overwhelming amount of consensus I've _EVER_ seen in an internet poll/survey/vote/whatever. Hey, Verisign lawyers, are you listening? Owen --On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 09:13:15 PM -0500 wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: see http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/comnetsurv/ this is not an icann thing btw, it's just me. Welp, it has been over a week and the results seem to have pretty much stopped coming in. It doesn't look like very many people think the wildcards were a good idea, although it scored the highest among web-browsing end-users. Thanks for the survey Paul! -wayne pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: see http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/comnetsurv/ this is not an icann thing btw, it's just me. Welp, it has been over a week and the results seem to have pretty much stopped coming in. It doesn't look like very many people think the wildcards were a good idea, although it scored the highest among web-browsing end-users. Thanks for the survey Paul! -wayne
Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes When the signal is placed on the wire, it is very analog. the digital signal is modulated onto the wire and demodulated off of it and the box that connects to the phone line at each end is properly and fairly commonly called a DSL modem. Very true. There's more than you ever really wanted to know about the technology of DSL at: http://www.oftel.gov.uk/ind_groups/nicc/Public/reports/Intfr_i1.pdf -- Roland Perry
Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: see http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/comnetsurv/ this is not an icann thing btw, it's just me. An incentive to take the survey: If you fill it out, it'll tell you the aggregated results so far, which are, lemme tell you, pretty surprising. Who knew that NANOG subscribers would anonymously admit they were clueless? :-) -Bill
Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
see http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/comnetsurv/ An incentive to take the survey: If you fill it out, it'll tell you the aggregated results so far, which are, lemme tell you, pretty surprising. Who knew that NANOG subscribers would anonymously admit they were clueless? :-) that's just bad ui on my part. this is a two hour perl script and probably ought to allow people to fix their mistakes but that would be Hard, so no.
Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: see http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/comnetsurv/ this is not an icann thing btw, it's just me. OK, this is nit-picky, but the errors a wildcard will pick up are NOT 404 errors. A wild card could not possibly ever pick up a 404 error. Since 404 is a server error code, you have to already be talking to the server to get a 404. I've seen this in the press repeatedly and it drives me almost as nuts as having to call DSL access hardware a modem. Thank you. I feel better now. == Chris Candreva -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/
Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
Christopher X. Candreva wrote: I've seen this in the press repeatedly and it drives me almost as nuts as having to call DSL access hardware a modem. Your DSL access hardware would not be a too good DSL access hardware without a modem so I suggest you consider putting some money aside for counceling. Pete
Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
Christopher X. Candreva wrote: I've seen this in the press repeatedly and it drives me almost as nuts as having to call DSL access hardware a modem. What's wrong with calling it a modem? It MOdulates and DEModulates between a digital bitstream and an analog signal. Bradley
RE: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
That suggests that it's an ASL (Analog Subscriber Line)... Pete Templin Senior Staff Engineer TexLink Communications (210) 892-4183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bradley Dunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:05 PM To: Christopher X. Candreva; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue Christopher X. Candreva wrote: I've seen this in the press repeatedly and it drives me almost as nuts as having to call DSL access hardware a modem. What's wrong with calling it a modem? It MOdulates and DEModulates between a digital bitstream and an analog signal. Bradley
Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:17:14 -0500 From: Pete Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That suggests that it's an ASL (Analog Subscriber Line)... When the signal is placed on the wire, it is very analog. the digital signal is modulated onto the wire and demodulated off of it and the box that connects to the phone line at each end is properly and fairly commonly called a DSL modem. If the path was entirely digital, it would be a CODEC (CODer/DECoder). It is a modem. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634
