Re: AOL mail server problems?
- Original Message - From: Joshua Levitsky To: Brian Bruns Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Suresh Ramasubramanian Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: Re: AOL mail server problems? > What is the PTR record for your mail server? If you don't have one or if it reads like a residential one then I've heard of that > getting blocked. Also be advised you can contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or AOL Postmaster HelpDesk at 1-703-265-4670 or 1- > 888-212-5537. > Before you email or call you should try this to verify that you have a PTR and that it doesn't read like a residential. (For example >dsl081-214-123.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net. ) Ah yeah, we have an ameritech PTR right now (working on that problem as well). I guess I'll have one of my guys call ameritech and complain about the PTR. -- Brian Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources http://www.sosdg.org ICQ: 8077511
Re: AOL mail server problems?
- Original Message - From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brian Bruns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:39 PM Subject: Re: AOL mail server problems? > When it comes to a choice between letting in the ~ 1% of small > businesses and linux geeks on dialup + dynamic DNS, and letting in all > the direct to MX spam and virus mail that is ~ 99% of the traffic from > dynamic IP space, I'll surely take the choice of blocking dynamic IPs, > thank you very much. Just checked their DUL lookup. My range is not on their list. I guess I'll call them a little later and ask whats up. -- Brian Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources http://www.sosdg.org ICQ: 8077511
Re: AOL mail server problems?
Brian Bruns writes on 10/12/2003 11:58 PM: This is one of those reasons why I hate DUL lists with a passion. Its not foolproof, and alot of smaller sites get nailed in this mess. When it comes to a choice between letting in the ~ 1% of small businesses and linux geeks on dialup + dynamic DNS, and letting in all the direct to MX spam and virus mail that is ~ 99% of the traffic from dynamic IP space, I'll surely take the choice of blocking dynamic IPs, thank you very much. srs -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations
Re: AOL mail server problems?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 10/12/2003 11:46 PM: On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Brian Bruns wrote: I've noticed some weird things going on with AOL's smtp servers today - 2003-10-12 12:37:48 1A8k8X-0002OC-0c Remote host mailin-04.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.89] closed connection in response to initial connection They're probably blocking you. Have you gotten many scomp complaints recently?...perhaps a big backlog of them that you/your abuse people Someone in another thread did say that you were on a DSL line. AOL has a published policy of blocking mail from residential broadband IPs. That, combined with the fact that it is quite often rather tough to tell where an ISP's dynamic / residential pool ends and where its static IP DSL pool begins, might well make AOL cast their net a bit wider than they intend. Call the number they give at http://postmaster.info.aol.com and ask them -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations
Re: AOL mail server problems?
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brian Bruns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:16 PM Subject: Re: AOL mail server problems? > They're probably blocking you. Have you gotten many scomp complaints > recently?...perhaps a big backlog of them that you/your abuse people > haven't dealt with? Last time I dealt with AOL blocking us, that was the > cause, and the result was mixed. Sometimes we'd get the connection closed > as above, sometimes a 550 message telling us we were blocked. > Well, just to be absolutely sure, I checked the forwardings for abuse@, postmaster@, and a few others, all of which go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't seen any mail from AOL support/abuse/tech/whatever to us (nor has any of the other admins). We are a very small and close nit group with very few actual users - stuff like spam, viruses, and mailbombs get noticed really quickly (we all have pagers/cell phones which get a message whenever the system detects something unusual going on). What I was discussing with someone offlist was that AOL has apparently been threatning to disallow connections from dynamic IPs for a while now, and they apparently are starting to follow through with it. Although my IP looks like a dynamic IP, its a static IP out of a block of /29 (do a whois on 68.78.10.168 and you'll see it belongs to Nathan Drook, one of the people here). This is one of those reasons why I hate DUL lists with a passion. Its not foolproof, and alot of smaller sites get nailed in this mess. Of course, AOL offers up no way of correcting these listings on their site, the postmaster site of theirs, or via the mail daemon itself. Whats very interesting is that the mail finally does go through after rotating a few dozen times between different MX hosts. Whats even more interesting is that when the mail did go through, it went through to an IP which blocked it several times before. I have no idea if its just because not all of their servers are properly updated yet or not. Who knows. *shrug* -- Brian Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources http://www.sosdg.org ICQ: 8077511
Re: AOL mail server problems?
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Brian Bruns wrote: > I've noticed some weird things going on with AOL's smtp servers today - > 2003-10-12 12:37:48 1A8k8X-0002OC-0c Remote host mailin-04.mx.aol.com > [64.12.138.89] closed connection in response to initial connection > 2003-10-12 12:37:55 1A8k8X-0002OC-0c Remote host mailin-04.mx.aol.com > [64.12.136.153] closed connection in response to initial connection > 2003-10-12 12:38:35 1A8k8X-0002OC-0c Remote host mailin-04.mx.aol.com > [152.163.224.122] closed connection in response to initial connection They're probably blocking you. Have you gotten many scomp complaints recently?...perhaps a big backlog of them that you/your abuse people haven't dealt with? Last time I dealt with AOL blocking us, that was the cause, and the result was mixed. Sometimes we'd get the connection closed as above, sometimes a 550 message telling us we were blocked. -- Jon Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]| I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net| _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
