Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-11-05 Thread Chris A. Epler
MIDAS looks interesting...a little confusing at first to setup but not 
too bad once you figure out what the various MIDASa/b/c/etc things do 
(Still working on that part... ;) )

http://midas-nms.sourceforge.net/
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Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-11-04 Thread Richard J. Sears

Hi Charlie - 

We use JFFNMS here (http://www.jffnms.org/).

We have it monitoring BGP with our 6 backbone providers, all of our T1's
(300 or so), DSL lines, dedicated servers, backing up all of our router
configs, talking to our F5s, pretty much everything you are asking for.
We use it extensively to grab traps and notify my NOC of any problems.
Overall I would say that it is monitoring over 15,000 connections and
pieces of hardware.

We have its bandwidth monitoring and tracking talking directly to our
billing engine and allow our customers the ability to log into it and
view all of their stats as well.

We don't use it to monitor uptime as we utilize different hardware for
that but my guess is that with some minor tweaking it could do that as
well.

Hope this helps.

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:01:42 -0700
Charlie Khanna - NextWeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi - I was interested in finding out what software applications other ISPs
 are using for network monitoring?  For example:
 
  
 
 1)   Overall network health - uptime reports
 
 2)   Backup router config automatically
 
 3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app)
 
 4)   SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session drops - emails out)
 
 5)   Database back end (port info into or over to other apps)
 
  
 
 I'm just looking for something well rounded for a small ISP.  I've heard
 about OpenNMS and other apps but I'd like to get everyone's feedback.
 Thanks!
 
  
 
 -Charlie
 
  
 


**
Richard J. Sears
Vice President 
American Internet Services  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.adnc.com

858.576.4272 - Phone
858.427.2401 - Fax
INOC-DBA - 6130


I fly because it releases my mind 
from the tyranny of petty things . . 


Work like you don't need the money, love like you've
never been hurt and dance like you do when nobody's
watching.



RE: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-11-04 Thread Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
Title: Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?








We actually use it now and its fine for
what it does  however, I dont think it provides a real integrated
solution.



-Charlie











From: Erik Amundson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004
11:21 AM
To: Richard J. Sears; Charlie
Khanna - NextWeb
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Network Monitoring
System - Recommendations?









Not a lot of people seem to be using it,
but at my organization, we just love WhatsUp Gold by IPSwitch.











We first started using it about 4 years ago, when it was a
very simple product that pretty much just did SNMP and ping-polling. Now,
it's a much more advanced system that can do loads of things...











Check it outwww.ipswitch.com











- Erik















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Richard J. Sears
Sent: Thu 11/4/2004 9:11 AM
To: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Network Monitoring
System - Recommendations?







Hi Charlie -

We use JFFNMS here (http://www.jffnms.org/).

We have it monitoring BGP with our 6 backbone providers, all of our T1's
(300 or so), DSL lines, dedicated servers, backing up all of our router
configs, talking to our F5s, pretty much everything you are asking for.
We use it extensively to grab traps and notify my NOC of any problems.
Overall I would say that it is monitoring over 15,000 connections and
pieces of hardware.

We have its bandwidth monitoring and tracking talking directly to our
billing engine and allow our customers the ability to log into it and
view all of their stats as well.

We don't use it to monitor uptime as we utilize different hardware for
that but my guess is that with some minor tweaking it could do that as
well.

Hope this helps.

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:01:42 -0700
Charlie Khanna - NextWeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi - I was interested in finding out what software applications other ISPs
 are using for network monitoring? For example:



 1) Overall network health - uptime
reports

 2) Backup router config automatically

 3) Bandwidth reporting (or integration
with an MRTG-type app)

 4) SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session
drops - emails out)

 5) Database back end (port info into
or over to other apps)



 I'm just looking for something well rounded for a small ISP. I've
heard
 about OpenNMS and other apps but I'd like to get everyone's feedback.
 Thanks!



 -Charlie





**
Richard J. Sears
Vice President
American Internet
Services

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.adnc.com

858.576.4272 - Phone
858.427.2401 - Fax
INOC-DBA - 6130


I fly because it releases my mind
from the tyranny of petty things . .


Work like you don't need the money, love like you've
never been hurt and dance like you do when nobody's
watching.










Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-11-01 Thread Alexei Roudnev



 I read document of these tools and find they work with
 Cisco products. But, how about Juniper M160 or M320,
 Unishpere's BRAS products?  Where can I find Juniper's
 OID on its tempreture, chassis, CPU, bandwidth ? Does
They use standart MIB2 and a little of Cisco specific MIB's. As I already
said, it is a good tool to view and monitor traffic, utilisation, errors,
and use additional tiool to deep monitor vendor specific parameters. We use
'snmpstat' to monitor routers, switches, ports and interfaces (and bgp) and
cricket to watch few additional parameters (to configure alerts, we use
aliases and mhonarc mail archives with auto expiration - for alerts,
warnings, reports and audits, and for 'root' and 'oracle' e-mail.

 anyone have a  running configuration for M160 or
 Unishpere's BRAS products?
CCR can work with anything which (1) allow telnet or ssh, and (2) can 'write
net' config (in any syntax).
You can use encrypted password file (using passphrase) if you want. Using
SNMP was rejected, because it is absolutely device-specific, impossible in
many cases, and we never saw it as a security problem, because all devices
are restricted to allow ssh or telnet from 2 or 3 servers only, because
passwords are encrypted, and because automated config reading and web access
aree much more important vs very abstract possibility of hacking (in
reality, problem can come from insiders, not from hackers, so no extra
accounst are allowed on monitoring server).

You can get configuratuion (initialize tftp transfer) using some snmp
(WRITE) variable and pre-configured tftp parameters, but it works on a very
few Cisco devices only.

As I said, CCR uses 3 methods:
- password file encrypted by public key
- password file encrypted by 3des passphrase;
- explicit password.

In all cases, problem is with root user only - root can alway decrypt
password or interseipt web session. User, who have permission to edit CCR
config and know passphrase, can (in theory) see passwords as well. Other
users can not, even if they know passphrase - they can only initiate config
reading.

Network admins do not know enable passwords, if they do not need it - they
use passphrase

To have automated config reading, any of first 2 methods can be used
(passphrase must be written into special file, if method 2 is used,
root-only readable). For manual reading, any methgod can be used, without
any file with passphrase.

In reality, it is not serious security problem because all devices can be
accessed from a very few servers only, and because we can use 'ssh' instead
of 'telnet' (CCR can be configured or select ssh/telnet automatically). You
can, in turn, play with security level , but it (again) does not work on
generic case (any cisco device) and is very tricky.

For Juniper or other device - you can try to program 'expect' script, or use
'snmp' initiated transfer - all other things will work.




 On configuration bankup, rancid use telnet (ssh). But,
 I take this a not-secure methode as it has to code
 password in login script. Is there any tool to get
 configuration file from read-only SNMP cumminity?


 Joe



 --- Jon Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Checkout http://perfparse.sourceforge.net/ lets you
  graph the data from the nagios plugins...
 
  --- Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   I generated config for 'snmpstatd' automatically,
   from user;'s database (it
   was simple; all I need was Router, Interface,
   User-name, number for this
   user, priority).
  
   For automated config backups, I use CCR (fully web
   based Cisco
   configuration - CVS system).
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:46 AM
   Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System -
   Recommendations?
  
  
   
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
   wrote:
   
 Hi - I was interested in finding out what
   software applications other
   ISPs
 are using for network monitoring?  For
  example:



 1)   Overall network health - uptime
  reports
   
http://www.nagios.org
   
 2)   Backup router config automatically
   
http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/
   
 3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration
   with an MRTG-type app)
   
http://cricket.sourceforge.net/
   
 4)   SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session
   drops - emails out)
   
http://www.snmptt.org/
http://www.nagios.org
   
 5)   Database back end (port info into or
   over to other apps)

 I'm just looking for something well rounded
  for
   a small ISP.  I've heard
 about OpenNMS and other apps but I'd like to
  get
   everyone's feedback.
 Thanks!
   
Nothing all in one place, that I'm aware of. But
   with a little work, you
could probably integrate it all into nagios.
  After
   all, you can make the
host names or descriptions URLs

Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-11-01 Thread Joe Shen

Hi,

I googled with CCR but it seems nothing useful in 5
pages. Would you please do me a favor to give the URL
of that tool ? 


I tried to set up MRTG monitoring Unishpere BRAS 1400
and M160, but I failed with data collection because
wrong OID used ( CPU, mem, tempreture, BW etc ) :-(

regards



 --- Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
 
 
 
  I read document of these tools and find they work
 with
  Cisco products. But, how about Juniper M160 or
 M320,
  Unishpere's BRAS products?  Where can I find
 Juniper's
  OID on its tempreture, chassis, CPU, bandwidth ?
 Does
 They use standart MIB2 and a little of Cisco
 specific MIB's. As I already
 said, it is a good tool to view and monitor traffic,
 utilisation, errors,
 and use additional tiool to deep monitor vendor
 specific parameters. We use
 'snmpstat' to monitor routers, switches, ports and
 interfaces (and bgp) and
 cricket to watch few additional parameters (to
 configure alerts, we use
 aliases and mhonarc mail archives with auto
 expiration - for alerts,
 warnings, reports and audits, and for 'root' and
 'oracle' e-mail.
 
  anyone have a  running configuration for M160 or
  Unishpere's BRAS products?
 CCR can work with anything which (1) allow telnet or
 ssh, and (2) can 'write
 net' config (in any syntax).
 You can use encrypted password file (using
 passphrase) if you want. Using
 SNMP was rejected, because it is absolutely
 device-specific, impossible in
 many cases, and we never saw it as a security
 problem, because all devices
 are restricted to allow ssh or telnet from 2 or 3
 servers only, because
 passwords are encrypted, and because automated
 config reading and web access
 aree much more important vs very abstract
 possibility of hacking (in
 reality, problem can come from insiders, not from
 hackers, so no extra
 accounst are allowed on monitoring server).
 
 You can get configuratuion (initialize tftp
 transfer) using some snmp
 (WRITE) variable and pre-configured tftp parameters,
 but it works on a very
 few Cisco devices only.
 
 As I said, CCR uses 3 methods:
 - password file encrypted by public key
 - password file encrypted by 3des passphrase;
 - explicit password.
 
 In all cases, problem is with root user only - root
 can alway decrypt
 password or interseipt web session. User, who have
 permission to edit CCR
 config and know passphrase, can (in theory) see
 passwords as well. Other
 users can not, even if they know passphrase - they
 can only initiate config
 reading.
 
 Network admins do not know enable passwords, if they
 do not need it - they
 use passphrase
 
 To have automated config reading, any of first 2
 methods can be used
 (passphrase must be written into special file, if
 method 2 is used,
 root-only readable). For manual reading, any methgod
 can be used, without
 any file with passphrase.
 
 In reality, it is not serious security problem
 because all devices can be
 accessed from a very few servers only, and because
 we can use 'ssh' instead
 of 'telnet' (CCR can be configured or select
 ssh/telnet automatically). You
 can, in turn, play with security level , but it
 (again) does not work on
 generic case (any cisco device) and is very tricky.
 
 For Juniper or other device - you can try to program
 'expect' script, or use
 'snmp' initiated transfer - all other things will
 work.
 
 
 
 
  On configuration bankup, rancid use telnet (ssh).
 But,
  I take this a not-secure methode as it has to code
  password in login script. Is there any tool to get
  configuration file from read-only SNMP cumminity?
 
 
  Joe
 
 
 
  --- Jon Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   Checkout http://perfparse.sourceforge.net/ lets
 you
   graph the data from the nagios plugins...
  
   --- Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
I generated config for 'snmpstatd'
 automatically,
from user;'s database (it
was simple; all I need was Router, Interface,
User-name, number for this
user, priority).
   
For automated config backups, I use CCR (fully
 web
based Cisco
configuration - CVS system).
   
   
- Original Message - 
From: Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System -
Recommendations?
   
   

 On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Charlie Khanna -
 NextWeb
wrote:

  Hi - I was interested in finding out what
software applications other
ISPs
  are using for network monitoring?  For
   example:
 
 
 
  1)   Overall network health - uptime
   reports

 http://www.nagios.org

  2)   Backup router config
 automatically

 http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/

  3)   Bandwidth reporting (or
 integration
with an MRTG-type app)

 http://cricket.sourceforge.net/

  4)   SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF
 session
drops - emails out

Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-11-01 Thread Alexei Roudnev



Nagios is one of the best systems (and widely 
used).

CCR is part of snmpstat (but separate installation tar), see 
http://snmpstat.sf.net



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  J 
  Sparacio 
  To: Joe Shen 
  Cc: Alexei Roudnev ; Jon Lyons ; Andy Dills ; Charlie Khanna - NextWeb ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:54 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System - 
  Recommendations?
  There's a cool one that's open source called Nagios. www.nagios.org. We (local ISP) just 
  started using it network wide, and it rocks.On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 
  20:53, Joe Shen wrote: 
  Hi,

I googled with "CCR" but it seems nothing useful in 5
pages. Would you please do me a favor to give the URL
of that tool ? 


I tried to set up MRTG monitoring Unishpere BRAS 1400
and M160, but I failed with data collection because
wrong OID used ( CPU, mem, tempreture, BW etc ) :-(

regards



 --- Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
 
 
 
  I read document of these tools and find they work
 with
  Cisco products. But, how about Juniper M160 or
 M320,
  Unishpere's BRAS products?  Where can I find
 Juniper's
  OID on its tempreture, chassis, CPU, bandwidth ?
 Does
 They use standart MIB2 and a little of Cisco
 specific MIB's. As I already
 said, it is a good tool to view and monitor traffic,
 utilisation, errors,
 and use additional tiool to deep monitor vendor
 specific parameters. We use
 'snmpstat' to monitor routers, switches, ports and
 interfaces (and bgp) and
 cricket to watch few additional parameters (to
 configure alerts, we use
 aliases and mhonarc mail archives with auto
 expiration - for alerts,
 warnings, reports and audits, and for 'root' and
 'oracle' e-mail.
 
  anyone have a  running configuration for M160 or
  Unishpere's BRAS products?
 CCR can work with anything which (1) allow telnet or
 ssh, and (2) can 'write
 net' config (in any syntax).
 You can use encrypted password file (using
 passphrase) if you want. Using
 SNMP was rejected, because it is absolutely
 device-specific, impossible in
 many cases, and we never saw it as a security
 problem, because all devices
 are restricted to allow ssh or telnet from 2 or 3
 servers only, because
 passwords are encrypted, and because automated
 config reading and web access
 aree much more important vs very abstract
 possibility of hacking (in
 reality, problem can come from insiders, not from
 hackers, so no extra
 accounst are allowed on monitoring server).
 
 You can get configuratuion (initialize tftp
 transfer) using some snmp
 (WRITE) variable and pre-configured tftp parameters,
 but it works on a very
 few Cisco devices only.
 
 As I said, CCR uses 3 methods:
 - password file encrypted by public key
 - password file encrypted by 3des passphrase;
 - explicit password.
 
 In all cases, problem is with root user only - root
 can alway decrypt
 password or interseipt web session. User, who have
 permission to edit CCR
 config and know passphrase, can (in theory) see
 passwords as well. Other
 users can not, even if they know passphrase - they
 can only initiate config
 reading.
 
 Network admins do not know enable passwords, if they
 do not need it - they
 use passphrase
 
 To have automated config reading, any of first 2
 methods can be used
 (passphrase must be written into special file, if
 method 2 is used,
 root-only readable). For manual reading, any methgod
 can be used, without
 any file with passphrase.
 
 In reality, it is not serious security problem
 because all devices can be
 accessed from a very few servers only, and because
 we can use 'ssh' instead
 of 'telnet' (CCR can be configured or select
 ssh/telnet automatically). You
 can, in turn, play with security level , but it
 (again) does not work on
 generic case (any cisco device) and is very tricky.
 
 For Juniper or other device - you can try to program
 'expect' script, or use
 'snmp' initiated transfer - all other things will
 work.
 
 
 
 
  On configuration bankup, rancid use telnet (ssh).
 But,
  I take this a not-secure methode as it has to code
  password in login script. Is there any tool to get
  configuration file from read-only SNMP cumminity?
 
 
  Joe
 
 
 
  --- Jon Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   Checkout http://perfparse.sourceforge.net/ lets
 you
   graph the data from the nagios plugins...
  
   --- Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
I generated config for 'snmpstatd'
 automatically,
from user;'s database (it
was simple; all I need was Router, Interface,
User-name, number for this
user, priority).
   
For automated config backups, I use CCR (fully
 web
based Cisco
configuration - CVS system).
   
   
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Dills" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Charlie Khanna - NextWeb"
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System -
Recommendat

Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-11-01 Thread Alexei Roudnev

Here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/snmpstat

and docs are here

http://snmpstat.sourceforge.net/CCR-config.htm


- Original Message - 
From: Joe Shen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jon Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?



 Hi,

 I googled with CCR but it seems nothing useful in 5
 pages. Would you please do me a favor to give the URL
 of that tool ?


 I tried to set up MRTG monitoring Unishpere BRAS 1400
 and M160, but I failed with data collection because
 wrong OID used ( CPU, mem, tempreture, BW etc ) :-(

 regards



  --- Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
   I read document of these tools and find they work
  with
   Cisco products. But, how about Juniper M160 or
  M320,
   Unishpere's BRAS products?  Where can I find
  Juniper's
   OID on its tempreture, chassis, CPU, bandwidth ?
  Does
  They use standart MIB2 and a little of Cisco
  specific MIB's. As I already
  said, it is a good tool to view and monitor traffic,
  utilisation, errors,
  and use additional tiool to deep monitor vendor
  specific parameters. We use
  'snmpstat' to monitor routers, switches, ports and
  interfaces (and bgp) and
  cricket to watch few additional parameters (to
  configure alerts, we use
  aliases and mhonarc mail archives with auto
  expiration - for alerts,
  warnings, reports and audits, and for 'root' and
  'oracle' e-mail.
 
   anyone have a  running configuration for M160 or
   Unishpere's BRAS products?
  CCR can work with anything which (1) allow telnet or
  ssh, and (2) can 'write
  net' config (in any syntax).
  You can use encrypted password file (using
  passphrase) if you want. Using
  SNMP was rejected, because it is absolutely
  device-specific, impossible in
  many cases, and we never saw it as a security
  problem, because all devices
  are restricted to allow ssh or telnet from 2 or 3
  servers only, because
  passwords are encrypted, and because automated
  config reading and web access
  aree much more important vs very abstract
  possibility of hacking (in
  reality, problem can come from insiders, not from
  hackers, so no extra
  accounst are allowed on monitoring server).
 
  You can get configuratuion (initialize tftp
  transfer) using some snmp
  (WRITE) variable and pre-configured tftp parameters,
  but it works on a very
  few Cisco devices only.
 
  As I said, CCR uses 3 methods:
  - password file encrypted by public key
  - password file encrypted by 3des passphrase;
  - explicit password.
 
  In all cases, problem is with root user only - root
  can alway decrypt
  password or interseipt web session. User, who have
  permission to edit CCR
  config and know passphrase, can (in theory) see
  passwords as well. Other
  users can not, even if they know passphrase - they
  can only initiate config
  reading.
 
  Network admins do not know enable passwords, if they
  do not need it - they
  use passphrase
 
  To have automated config reading, any of first 2
  methods can be used
  (passphrase must be written into special file, if
  method 2 is used,
  root-only readable). For manual reading, any methgod
  can be used, without
  any file with passphrase.
 
  In reality, it is not serious security problem
  because all devices can be
  accessed from a very few servers only, and because
  we can use 'ssh' instead
  of 'telnet' (CCR can be configured or select
  ssh/telnet automatically). You
  can, in turn, play with security level , but it
  (again) does not work on
  generic case (any cisco device) and is very tricky.
 
  For Juniper or other device - you can try to program
  'expect' script, or use
  'snmp' initiated transfer - all other things will
  work.
 
 
 
  
   On configuration bankup, rancid use telnet (ssh).
  But,
   I take this a not-secure methode as it has to code
   password in login script. Is there any tool to get
   configuration file from read-only SNMP cumminity?
  
  
   Joe
  
  
  
   --- Jon Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
Checkout http://perfparse.sourceforge.net/ lets
  you
graph the data from the nagios plugins...
   
--- Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

 I generated config for 'snmpstatd'
  automatically,
 from user;'s database (it
 was simple; all I need was Router, Interface,
 User-name, number for this
 user, priority).

 For automated config backups, I use CCR (fully
  web
 based Cisco
 configuration - CVS system).


 - Original Message - 
 From: Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System -
 Recommendations?


 
  On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Charlie Khanna

Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-31 Thread Joe Shen

I read document of these tools and find they work with
Cisco products. But, how about Juniper M160 or M320,
Unishpere's BRAS products?  Where can I find Juniper's
OID on its tempreture, chassis, CPU, bandwidth ? Does
anyone have a  running configuration for M160 or
Unishpere's BRAS products? 

On configuration bankup, rancid use telnet (ssh). But,
I take this a not-secure methode as it has to code
password in login script. Is there any tool to get
configuration file from read-only SNMP cumminity?


Joe 
 


--- Jon Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
 
 
 Checkout http://perfparse.sourceforge.net/ lets you
 graph the data from the nagios plugins...
 
 --- Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  I generated config for 'snmpstatd' automatically,
  from user;'s database (it
  was simple; all I need was Router, Interface,
  User-name, number for this
  user, priority).
  
  For automated config backups, I use CCR (fully web
  based Cisco
  configuration - CVS system).
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System -
  Recommendations?
  
  
  
   On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
  wrote:
  
Hi - I was interested in finding out what
  software applications other
  ISPs
are using for network monitoring?  For
 example:
   
   
   
1)   Overall network health - uptime
 reports
  
   http://www.nagios.org
  
2)   Backup router config automatically
  
   http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/
  
3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration
  with an MRTG-type app)
  
   http://cricket.sourceforge.net/
  
4)   SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session
  drops - emails out)
  
   http://www.snmptt.org/
   http://www.nagios.org
  
5)   Database back end (port info into or
  over to other apps)
   
I'm just looking for something well rounded
 for
  a small ISP.  I've heard
about OpenNMS and other apps but I'd like to
 get
  everyone's feedback.
Thanks!
  
   Nothing all in one place, that I'm aware of. But
  with a little work, you
   could probably integrate it all into nagios.
 After
  all, you can make the
   host names or descriptions URLs that link to
  bandwidth and error graphs or
   other tools.
  
   Andy
  
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   www.xecu.net
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Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-30 Thread Rob Nelson

Nothing all in one place, that I'm aware of. But with a little work, you
could probably integrate it all into nagios. After all, you can make the
host names or descriptions URLs that link to bandwidth and error graphs or
other tools.
I'll second this part. Whether you use cricket or MRTG, or even Nagios 
itself, you can use a little notes_url command to create a link from, 
say, the ping service of your core router to the MRTG charts of bandwidth 
usage.

Rob Nelson
Rob Nelson
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Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-30 Thread Rob Nelson

3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app)
http://cricket.sourceforge.net/
You can also do this with Nagios now too.. with APAN.
http://apan.sourceforge.net/
It's kind of cool. :D

There's more than one way to do it with Nagios:
http://www.nagiosexchange.org/Charts.1720.0.html
I'm using nagiostat myself, which churns out graphs like:
http://nagios.windchannel.com/nagiostat/nagiostat.cgi?graph_name=westst-cr1-ser30
I just set it up yesterday so there's not much polling data yet. I like it 
with MRTG/cricket better, actually - you can see a few blank spots where 
checks got delayed due to other outages, and then there's no info to use. 
MRTG/cricket just runs off cron, which means it hardly misses a beat.

Rob Nelson
Rob Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-30 Thread Alexei Roudnev





 Nothing all in one place, that I'm aware of. But with a little work, you
snmpstat have hardcoded set of monitored parameters, but creates all graphs
anb links automartically, including customer-only view of customer's links,
link to the database record about this link, and link to the router's config
@ CCR.

This is why we use combination - for 99% of partameters, snmpstat, and for
the rest, hand-configured cricket (but I recommend nagios).



 could probably integrate it all into nagios. After all, you can make the
 host names or descriptions URLs that link to bandwidth and error graphs
or
 other tools.

 I'll second this part. Whether you use cricket or MRTG, or even Nagios
 itself, you can use a little notes_url command to create a link from,
 say, the ping service of your core router to the MRTG charts of
bandwidth
 usage.

 Rob Nelson

 Rob Nelson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-30 Thread adrian kok

Dear all

Thank you for your info

but 

Do you know there are any softwares to support MAC?

Thank you

 --- Rob Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 
 3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with
 an MRTG-type app)
 
 http://cricket.sourceforge.net/
 
 You can also do this with Nagios now too.. with
 APAN.
 
 http://apan.sourceforge.net/
 
 It's kind of cool. :D
 
 
 There's more than one way to do it with Nagios:
 
 http://www.nagiosexchange.org/Charts.1720.0.html
 
 I'm using nagiostat myself, which churns out graphs
 like:
 

http://nagios.windchannel.com/nagiostat/nagiostat.cgi?graph_name=westst-cr1-ser30
 
 I just set it up yesterday so there's not much
 polling data yet. I like it 
 with MRTG/cricket better, actually - you can see a
 few blank spots where 
 checks got delayed due to other outages, and then
 there's no info to use. 
 MRTG/cricket just runs off cron, which means it
 hardly misses a beat.
 
 Rob Nelson
 
 Rob Nelson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  


Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-29 Thread Alexei Roudnev

I use

 http://snmpstat.sf.net

for bandwidth, links monityoring, router's cpu usage, etc etc; and

http://cricket.sourceforge.net/

for additional parameters.

First (developed in Moscow for few ISP) monitors abd adapted here for
Enterprise (and shows everuything on the single scree, with traffic bars)
300 - 600 links without any problems (using approx 5% of servers cpu);
second allows to monitor non standard parameters), have tickets, reports,
alerts; second is very flexible (even to  flexible).

Btw, we implemented per-usert view (user can open his link and see traffic,
tickets, usage reports etc for HIS link only)
in snmpstat.

(In reality, we use portal based on snmpstat, with few different tools
integrated tiogether, such as Cisco Configuration Repository, ProBIND2 ,
inventory database, alert alias system with archive and so on).

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?




 3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app)
 
 
  http://cricket.sourceforge.net/
 

 You can also do this with Nagios now too.. with APAN.

 http://apan.sourceforge.net/

 It's kind of cool. :D

 -Jonathan



Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-29 Thread Alexei Roudnev

I generated config for 'snmpstatd' automatically, from user;'s database (it
was simple; all I need was Router, Interface, User-name, number for this
user, priority).

For automated config backups, I use CCR (fully web based Cisco
configuration - CVS system).


- Original Message - 
From: Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?



 On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Charlie Khanna - NextWeb wrote:

  Hi - I was interested in finding out what software applications other
ISPs
  are using for network monitoring?  For example:
 
 
 
  1)   Overall network health - uptime reports

 http://www.nagios.org

  2)   Backup router config automatically

 http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/

  3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app)

 http://cricket.sourceforge.net/

  4)   SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session drops - emails out)

 http://www.snmptt.org/
 http://www.nagios.org

  5)   Database back end (port info into or over to other apps)
 
  I'm just looking for something well rounded for a small ISP.  I've heard
  about OpenNMS and other apps but I'd like to get everyone's feedback.
  Thanks!

 Nothing all in one place, that I'm aware of. But with a little work, you
 could probably integrate it all into nagios. After all, you can make the
 host names or descriptions URLs that link to bandwidth and error graphs or
 other tools.

 Andy

 ---
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 Xecunet, Inc.
 www.xecu.net
 301-682-9972
 ---



Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-29 Thread Chris Allermann

APAN looks pretty sweet, going to have to try that one out myself :-)

On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 21:31, Jonathan Nichols wrote:
 3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app)
  
  
  http://cricket.sourceforge.net/
  
 
 You can also do this with Nagios now too.. with APAN.
 
 http://apan.sourceforge.net/
 
 It's kind of cool. :D
 
 -Jonathan



Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-29 Thread Jon Lyons


Checkout http://perfparse.sourceforge.net/ lets you
graph the data from the nagios plugins...

--- Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I generated config for 'snmpstatd' automatically,
 from user;'s database (it
 was simple; all I need was Router, Interface,
 User-name, number for this
 user, priority).
 
 For automated config backups, I use CCR (fully web
 based Cisco
 configuration - CVS system).
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Network Monitoring System -
 Recommendations?
 
 
 
  On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Charlie Khanna - NextWeb
 wrote:
 
   Hi - I was interested in finding out what
 software applications other
 ISPs
   are using for network monitoring?  For example:
  
  
  
   1)   Overall network health - uptime reports
 
  http://www.nagios.org
 
   2)   Backup router config automatically
 
  http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/
 
   3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration
 with an MRTG-type app)
 
  http://cricket.sourceforge.net/
 
   4)   SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session
 drops - emails out)
 
  http://www.snmptt.org/
  http://www.nagios.org
 
   5)   Database back end (port info into or
 over to other apps)
  
   I'm just looking for something well rounded for
 a small ISP.  I've heard
   about OpenNMS and other apps but I'd like to get
 everyone's feedback.
   Thanks!
 
  Nothing all in one place, that I'm aware of. But
 with a little work, you
  could probably integrate it all into nagios. After
 all, you can make the
  host names or descriptions URLs that link to
 bandwidth and error graphs or
  other tools.
 
  Andy
 
  ---
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  Xecunet, Inc.
  www.xecu.net
  301-682-9972
  ---
 
 




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RE: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-28 Thread Jason Frisvold

 -Original Message-
 From: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?
 
 Hi - I was interested in finding out what software applications other ISPs are
 using for network monitoring?  For example:
 
 1)   Overall network health - uptime reports
 2)   Backup router config automatically
 3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app)
 4)   SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session drops - emails out)
 5)   Database back end (port info into or over to other apps)

I've been using Argus - http://argus.tcp4me.com

I've found this program more and more useful as time goes on...  This should fit in 
with every point except #5.  But, of course, the data has to be stored somewhere, so 
it should be fairly trivial to either write a parser, or modify the source to use a 
database.

At any rate, I really like this program, it works wonderfully.

 I'm just looking for something well rounded for a small ISP.  I've heard about
 OpenNMS and other apps but I'd like to get everyone's feedback.  Thanks!  
  
 -Charlie
 


Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Dills

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Charlie Khanna - NextWeb wrote:

 Hi - I was interested in finding out what software applications other ISPs
 are using for network monitoring?  For example:



 1)   Overall network health - uptime reports

http://www.nagios.org

 2)   Backup router config automatically

http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/

 3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app)

http://cricket.sourceforge.net/

 4)   SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session drops - emails out)

http://www.snmptt.org/
http://www.nagios.org

 5)   Database back end (port info into or over to other apps)

 I'm just looking for something well rounded for a small ISP.  I've heard
 about OpenNMS and other apps but I'd like to get everyone's feedback.
 Thanks!

Nothing all in one place, that I'm aware of. But with a little work, you
could probably integrate it all into nagios. After all, you can make the
host names or descriptions URLs that link to bandwidth and error graphs or
other tools.

Andy

---
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Xecunet, Inc.
www.xecu.net
301-682-9972
---


Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-28 Thread Wes Hardaker

 On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:46:31 -0400 (EDT), Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 1)   Overall network health - uptime reports

 2)   Backup router config automatically

 3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app)

 4)   SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session drops - emails out)

 5)   Database back end (port info into or over to other apps)

Andy Nothing all in one place, that I'm aware of. But with a little work, you
Andy could probably integrate it all into nagios. After all, you can make the
Andy host names or descriptions URLs that link to bandwidth and error graphs or
Andy other tools.

Net-Policy does 1, 3, and 5...  It collects traps and lets you view
them, but doesn't currently email (trivial addition though).  #2 isn't
done, though it does collect data and put it in a postgres database,
thus you could say it collects it, just not in a way in which you can
send it back out again :-/

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Re: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?

2004-10-28 Thread Jonathan Nichols

3)   Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app)

http://cricket.sourceforge.net/
You can also do this with Nagios now too.. with APAN.
http://apan.sourceforge.net/
It's kind of cool. :D
-Jonathan