Re: Why can't I default Originate?

2003-07-08 Thread Haesu

After you applied default-originate to peer-group, have you done soft-clear of your 
bgp session?

It usually takes a little while for changes in config to propagate, unless you force 
an update using soft clear...

-hc

-- 
Sincerely,
  Haesu C.
  TowardEX Technologies, Inc.
  WWW: http://www.towardex.com
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cell: (978) 394-2867

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:43:35PM -0700, Vandy Hamidi wrote:
 
 Platform:
   Cisco 7206VXR
 SW:
   Version 12.2(15)T2
 
 router#sh run | b bgp
   router bgp 65011
no synchronization
bgp log-neighbor-changes
bgp confederation identifier 12345
bgp confederation peers 65001 65021 
bgp deterministic-med
bgp dampening
network 1.2.3.0 mask 255.255.255.0
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group peer-group
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group update-source FastEthernet1/1
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group next-hop-self
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group version 4
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group soft-reconfiguration inbound
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group filter-list 2 in
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group filter-list 1 out
neighbor 10.1.2.75 remote-as 65001
neighbor 10.1.2.75 peer-group Confed-Peer-Group
neighbor 10.1.2.75 password 7 05211F2C105211F2C1666B
neighbor 10.1.2.76 remote-as 65001
neighbor 10.1.2.76 peer-group Confed-Peer-Group
neighbor 10.1.2.76 password 7 05211F2C105211F2C1666B
no auto-summary
 
 
 router#conf t
 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 
 router(config)#router bgp 65011
 
 router(config-router)#neighbor 10.1.2.75 default-originate 
 % Invalid command for a peer-group member
 router(config-router)#
 
 According to Cisco:
 All members of a peer group must share identical outbound announcement policies 
 (such as distribute-list, filter-list, and route-map), except for default-originate, 
 which is handled on a per-peer basis even for peer group members. 
 
 I've also tried to apply to the peer group.  The command is accepted, but no default 
 origination of 0/0 is advertised to the peer(s).
 Thanks in advanced for any help,
 
   -=Vandy=-



Re: Why can't I default Originate?

2003-07-08 Thread David Barak

As I recall, making changes to a peer-group outbound
policy will require all of the peer-group members to
reset (or at least the peer-group leader).  Until that
reset happens, a soft clear to a follower session will
only re-send the output of the previously calcluated
policy.

I seem to remember this as an undocumented feature...
;)

-David Barak


--- Haesu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 After you applied default-originate to peer-group,
 have you done soft-clear of your bgp session?
 
 It usually takes a little while for changes in
 config to propagate, unless you force an update
 using soft clear...
 
 -hc
 
 -- 
 Sincerely,
   Haesu C.
   TowardEX Technologies, Inc.
   WWW: http://www.towardex.com
   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cell: (978) 394-2867
 
 On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:43:35PM -0700, Vandy
 Hamidi wrote:
  
  Platform:
  Cisco 7206VXR
  SW:
  Version 12.2(15)T2
  
  router#sh run | b bgp
  router bgp 65011
   no synchronization
   bgp log-neighbor-changes
   bgp confederation identifier 12345
   bgp confederation peers 65001 65021 
   bgp deterministic-med
   bgp dampening
   network 1.2.3.0 mask 255.255.255.0
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group peer-group
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group update-source
 FastEthernet1/1
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group next-hop-self
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group version 4
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group soft-reconfiguration
 inbound
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group filter-list 2 in
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group filter-list 1 out
   neighbor 10.1.2.75 remote-as 65001
   neighbor 10.1.2.75 peer-group Confed-Peer-Group
   neighbor 10.1.2.75 password 7
 05211F2C105211F2C1666B
   neighbor 10.1.2.76 remote-as 65001
   neighbor 10.1.2.76 peer-group Confed-Peer-Group
   neighbor 10.1.2.76 password 7
 05211F2C105211F2C1666B
   no auto-summary
  
  
  router#conf t
  Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End
 with CNTL/Z.
  
  router(config)#router bgp 65011
  
  router(config-router)#neighbor 10.1.2.75
 default-originate 
  % Invalid command for a peer-group member
  router(config-router)#
  
  According to Cisco:
  All members of a peer group must share identical
 outbound announcement policies (such as
 distribute-list, filter-list, and route-map), except
 for default-originate, which is handled on a
 per-peer basis even for peer group members. 
  
  I've also tried to apply to the peer group.  The
 command is accepted, but no default origination of
 0/0 is advertised to the peer(s).
  Thanks in advanced for any help,
  
  -=Vandy=-
 


=
David Barak
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RE: Why can't I default Originate?

2003-07-08 Thread Vandy Hamidi

Thanks HC,
Two things.  I was told this was not a topic for this list.  Sorry about that.
Since I've already posted, I think I should post what the problem was.
Problem=I'm stupid.  I wasn't looking in the right place for what I was advertising.

I ran:
router#sh ip bgp nei 10.99.200.75 adv
BGP table version is 43, local router ID is 10.1.80.44
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid,  best, i - internal,
  r RIB-failure, S Stale
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete

Originating default network 0.0.0.0

   Network  Next HopMetric LocPrf Weight Path
* 1.2.3.0/24   1.2.3.3  0 32768 i
router#

I was looking for the network, but not the line that stated:
Originating default network 0.0.0.0
So it was advertising and I've verified it on the remote peers (which I should have 
done first!).

Still doesn't answer why CISCO says you apply default orig to the peer, not the peer 
group (which we've proven is backwards).  It shouldn't be this way since you may want 
to use the peer group as a template for multiple customers, but they may not all want 
0/0 sent to them.
ALSO I didn't need to have 0/0 in my local routing table nor did I need to add the BGP 
command Synchronization.
According to CISCO (which is actually accurate), it will originate default 
UNCONDITIONALLY, which it does.
I'm still concerned about applying the command to the peer vs. the peer group issue.
Sorry about having posted this to Nanog, I'll filter my future questions more 
carefully.
Thanks for everyone who answered!

-=Vandy=-

-Original Message-
From: Haesu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why can't I default Originate?



After you applied default-originate to peer-group, have you done soft-clear of your 
bgp session?

It usually takes a little while for changes in config to propagate, unless you force 
an update using soft clear...

-hc

-- 
Sincerely,
  Haesu C.
  TowardEX Technologies, Inc.
  WWW: http://www.towardex.com
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cell: (978) 394-2867

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:43:35PM -0700, Vandy Hamidi wrote:
 
 Platform:
   Cisco 7206VXR
 SW:
   Version 12.2(15)T2
 
 router#sh run | b bgp
   router bgp 65011
no synchronization
bgp log-neighbor-changes
bgp confederation identifier 12345
bgp confederation peers 65001 65021 
bgp deterministic-med
bgp dampening
network 1.2.3.0 mask 255.255.255.0
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group peer-group
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group update-source FastEthernet1/1
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group next-hop-self
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group version 4
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group soft-reconfiguration inbound
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group filter-list 2 in
neighbor Confed-Peer-Group filter-list 1 out
neighbor 10.1.2.75 remote-as 65001
neighbor 10.1.2.75 peer-group Confed-Peer-Group
neighbor 10.1.2.75 password 7 05211F2C105211F2C1666B
neighbor 10.1.2.76 remote-as 65001
neighbor 10.1.2.76 peer-group Confed-Peer-Group
neighbor 10.1.2.76 password 7 05211F2C105211F2C1666B
no auto-summary
 
 
 router#conf t
 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 
 router(config)#router bgp 65011
 
 router(config-router)#neighbor 10.1.2.75 default-originate 
 % Invalid command for a peer-group member
 router(config-router)#
 
 According to Cisco:
 All members of a peer group must share identical outbound announcement policies 
 (such as distribute-list, filter-list, and route-map), except for default-originate, 
 which is handled on a per-peer basis even for peer group members. 
 
 I've also tried to apply to the peer group.  The command is accepted, but no default 
 origination of 0/0 is advertised to the peer(s).
 Thanks in advanced for any help,
 
   -=Vandy=-



Re: Why can't I default Originate?

2003-07-08 Thread Haesu

Well, the idea of peer-group is to.. as what the name sugests 'group' the peers into a 
single and simple configuration.. Default route origination to a peer although may be 
specific to a neighbor like in your situation, is still a configuration for peering 
neighbor; hence making it possible to be grouped into peer-group commands.

But.. whether or not default-originate goes in seperate peer config or peer-group 
config I guess is debatable. In application for my network, I find default-originate 
feature under peer-group useful; as I originate default route to some aggregation 
switches in route-reflector client peer group.

-hc

-- 
Sincerely,
  Haesu C.
  TowardEX Technologies, Inc.
  WWW: http://www.towardex.com
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cell: (978) 394-2867

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 02:09:30PM -0700, Vandy Hamidi wrote:
 
 Thanks HC,
 Two things.  I was told this was not a topic for this list.  Sorry about that.
 Since I've already posted, I think I should post what the problem was.
 Problem=I'm stupid.  I wasn't looking in the right place for what I was advertising.
 
 I ran:
 router#sh ip bgp nei 10.99.200.75 adv
 BGP table version is 43, local router ID is 10.1.80.44
 Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid,  best, i - internal,
   r RIB-failure, S Stale
 Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
 
 Originating default network 0.0.0.0
 
Network  Next HopMetric LocPrf Weight Path
 * 1.2.3.0/24   1.2.3.3  0 32768 i
 router#
 
 I was looking for the network, but not the line that stated:
 Originating default network 0.0.0.0
 So it was advertising and I've verified it on the remote peers (which I should have 
 done first!).
 
 Still doesn't answer why CISCO says you apply default orig to the peer, not the peer 
 group (which we've proven is backwards).  It shouldn't be this way since you may 
 want to use the peer group as a template for multiple customers, but they may not 
 all want 0/0 sent to them.
 ALSO I didn't need to have 0/0 in my local routing table nor did I need to add the 
 BGP command Synchronization.
 According to CISCO (which is actually accurate), it will originate default 
 UNCONDITIONALLY, which it does.
 I'm still concerned about applying the command to the peer vs. the peer group issue.
 Sorry about having posted this to Nanog, I'll filter my future questions more 
 carefully.
 Thanks for everyone who answered!
 
   -=Vandy=-
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Haesu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Why can't I default Originate?
 
 
 
 After you applied default-originate to peer-group, have you done soft-clear of your 
 bgp session?
 
 It usually takes a little while for changes in config to propagate, unless you force 
 an update using soft clear...
 
 -hc
 
 -- 
 Sincerely,
   Haesu C.
   TowardEX Technologies, Inc.
   WWW: http://www.towardex.com
   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cell: (978) 394-2867
 
 On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:43:35PM -0700, Vandy Hamidi wrote:
  
  Platform:
  Cisco 7206VXR
  SW:
  Version 12.2(15)T2
  
  router#sh run | b bgp
  router bgp 65011
   no synchronization
   bgp log-neighbor-changes
   bgp confederation identifier 12345
   bgp confederation peers 65001 65021 
   bgp deterministic-med
   bgp dampening
   network 1.2.3.0 mask 255.255.255.0
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group peer-group
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group update-source FastEthernet1/1
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group next-hop-self
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group version 4
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group soft-reconfiguration inbound
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group filter-list 2 in
   neighbor Confed-Peer-Group filter-list 1 out
   neighbor 10.1.2.75 remote-as 65001
   neighbor 10.1.2.75 peer-group Confed-Peer-Group
   neighbor 10.1.2.75 password 7 05211F2C105211F2C1666B
   neighbor 10.1.2.76 remote-as 65001
   neighbor 10.1.2.76 peer-group Confed-Peer-Group
   neighbor 10.1.2.76 password 7 05211F2C105211F2C1666B
   no auto-summary
  
  
  router#conf t
  Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
  
  router(config)#router bgp 65011
  
  router(config-router)#neighbor 10.1.2.75 default-originate 
  % Invalid command for a peer-group member
  router(config-router)#
  
  According to Cisco:
  All members of a peer group must share identical outbound announcement policies 
  (such as distribute-list, filter-list, and route-map), except for 
  default-originate, which is handled on a per-peer basis even for peer group 
  members. 
  
  I've also tried to apply to the peer group.  The command is accepted, but no 
  default origination of 0/0 is advertised to the peer(s).
  Thanks in advanced for any help,
  
  -=Vandy=-



RE: Why can't I default Originate?

2003-07-08 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox

 Still doesn't answer why CISCO says you apply default orig to the peer, not
 the peer group (which we've proven is backwards).  It shouldn't be this way
 since you may want to use the peer group as a template for multiple customers,
 but they may not all want 0/0 sent to them. ALSO I didn't need to have 0/0 in
 my local routing table nor did I need to add the BGP command
 Synchronization.

My understanding of the peer group feature is that it uses a single outbound 
policy, routes are checked to the peer group and all group members are then sent 
the update. This is very efficient and means you cannot have any exceptions to 
the per peer outbound route policy. If you have some wanting 0/0 and some not 
then you need to create a new peer group.

You wouldnt need it in the routing table, thats why you used the 
default-originate command.

And synchronization would be used to check whether to install the route if its 
in the igp or not, as again we're not using learned routes I guess it doesnt 
care about sync. (I'm also not sure how sync interacts with confed members, I 
assume it should for sync purposes treat them like regular ebgp peers and hence 
honor sync but i dont know!)

Btw, check [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you're getting flamed for your OT 
posting :)

Steve