Re: WorldCom's DWDM capabilities/OC12 SONET vs DWDM

2003-02-27 Thread Daniel Concepcion

Hi,

On Thursday 27 February 2003 18:16, Max's Lists wrote:
 thanks all for your input.

 on closer examination I found that the only two countries in Europe where
 WorldCom seems to sell wavelength services retail are Belgium and
 Luxemburg. There is some talk about selling DWDM wholesale in Spain, but I
 am afraid this is just boilerplate language.

WorldCom don't  sell DWDM in Spain.  They use capacity from other well know 
provideers. 

 if anyone knows anything about how to figure out DWDM prices in those two
 countires ... i would be greatly appreciative

If you need something in Spain mailme off list.


Regards,
Daniel



Re: WorldCom's DWDM capabilities/OC12 SONET vs DWDM

2003-02-06 Thread David Barak


--- Max's Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it has come to my
 attention that WorldCom
 doesn't seem to have a DWDM network to speak of, and
 reportedly has spotty
 DWDM coverage only in metro areas, a fact well
 hidden from company's
 marketing literature that seems to avoid talking
 about speeds above oc-3.

Your impression is pretty much correct.  WorldCom
bought/obtained a large quantity of fiber before DWDM
capability was widely available, and has not spent
very much money on CapEX in the past couple of years. 
Their current focus seems to be trying to maximize the
usage of their existing infrastructure.


 
 Two questions -- can anyone verify/offer more
 insights/point to better
 resources on WorldCom's DWDM startegy?
 
 And -- as the rumor mill seems to suggest -- is it
 indeed true that despite
 obvious network economics SONET-based OC-12 and
 OC-48 circuits are indeed
 enjoying lower street prices than DWDM oc-12/48
 circuits? Any thoughts as to
 why this info is indeed correct?


This is also true, because a large number of providers
are in a similar place to WorldCom - i.e.
overprovisioned SONET gear, and don't want to upgrade
to a DWDM-based system until their SONET cicuits
absolutely need it.  It shouldn't be all that
surprising - where you'll really see a lot of DWDM is
those providers who had loaded up on dark fiber, and
are now starting to light them.

-David Barak
fully RFC 1925 compliant

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