Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Bjørn Mork wrote: > > > The poor guy/gal at the other end of the line will need a really good > > answer. Does anyone here have one? > > to avoid being technical i guess the only answer would be to say this is a > private service offered to tiscali users and is not available to any non > tiscali > users (you might want to point out this is 99.9% of the world in case $cust > feels like switching) > > > Not to mention the answers we need for the market droids... > > > > "Hey, I heard that Tiscali is offering more Internet than us at no > > extra cost, and they make a lot of money on it too. How soon can we > > start doing the same?" > > tell them you've been able to do it all along, its your network and you can > provide any unique content that you like, providing they understand this is > unique for your custs only .. think intranet > > > This puts a lot of pressure on other European ISPs, and eventually also > > North > > American ISPs (to make this on-topic :-) I hope the rest of us can stand > > together against it. A good start would be to come up with a common > > response > > to the two pressure groups outlined above. > > a better worded explanation on a webpage would be good i guess... > > anyway, i'm off the the UNIDT website, i hear '.tiscali' hasnt been > registered > yet ;p replying to myself. bad :) had this pointed out.. these are "official" according to inaic http://inaic.com/index.php?p=faq006 and resolving "all known tlds" seems a bit of a stretch, i think they've missed my '.foobar' tld on my local nameservers.. http://inaic.com/index.php?p=faq014 also for added humour, from the press release http://inaic.com/index.php?p=tiscali-introduces following the link: http://home.tiscali/ doesnt seem to work for me, hmm.. not great to have a broken link in a public press release ;) Steve
Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Bjørn Mork wrote: > The poor guy/gal at the other end of the line will need a really good > answer. Does anyone here have one? to avoid being technical i guess the only answer would be to say this is a private service offered to tiscali users and is not available to any non tiscali users (you might want to point out this is 99.9% of the world in case $cust feels like switching) > Not to mention the answers we need for the market droids... > > "Hey, I heard that Tiscali is offering more Internet than us at no > extra cost, and they make a lot of money on it too. How soon can we > start doing the same?" tell them you've been able to do it all along, its your network and you can provide any unique content that you like, providing they understand this is unique for your custs only .. think intranet > This puts a lot of pressure on other European ISPs, and eventually also North > American ISPs (to make this on-topic :-) I hope the rest of us can stand > together against it. A good start would be to come up with a common response > to the two pressure groups outlined above. a better worded explanation on a webpage would be good i guess... anyway, i'm off the the UNIDT website, i hear '.tiscali' hasnt been registered yet ;p Steve
Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?
> "www.really-cool.alt. Now fix your systems so I can access it" > > The poor guy/gal at the other end of the line will need a really good > answer. "Looks like your friend has been duped by some domain hijackers/phishers exploiting a DNS security hole. We've kept you safe from that perhaps your friend would like to move to us rather than the insecure ISP" > Not to mention the answers we need for the market droids... > > "Hey, I heard that Tiscali is offering more Internet than us at no > extra cost, and they make a lot of money on it too. How soon can we > start doing the same?" "I hear you can buy .tiscali for $1M so all our users plus some others will get our site instead of theirs. Unfortunately the same scam means a bunch of other people have .telenor" > This puts a lot of pressure on other European ISPs, and eventually > also North American ISPs (to make this on-topic :-) I hope the rest of > us can stand together against it. The rot started when icann hijacked . and started selling pointless gtlds, it's not surprising others want to do the same. brandon
Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 08:45:29 CDT, "John Palmer (NANOG Acct)" said: >> "... As a result of this agreement, Tiscali will offer to its subscribers >> across Europe the access to the entire World Wide Web, including the new >> alternative domain names. > > I can see it now... > > "Hello, Tiscali User Support" > > "I found this really cool website, and I mailed the address to 15 of my buds, > and they're all saying it doesn't exist and I need to quit smoking crack" > > "What's the website?" > > "www.really-cool.alt. Now quit playing mind games with me and make it work > for them." I fear that Tiscali won't be the ones facing the problems. Instead we'll have "Hello, Telenor User Support" "My friend sent me a link to this really cool website, but your stupid system tells me it doesn't exist" "What's the website?" "www.really-cool.alt. Now fix your systems so I can access it" The poor guy/gal at the other end of the line will need a really good answer. Does anyone here have one? Not to mention the answers we need for the market droids... "Hey, I heard that Tiscali is offering more Internet than us at no extra cost, and they make a lot of money on it too. How soon can we start doing the same?" This puts a lot of pressure on other European ISPs, and eventually also North American ISPs (to make this on-topic :-) I hope the rest of us can stand together against it. A good start would be to come up with a common response to the two pressure groups outlined above. Bjørn
Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?
* John Palmer: >>From their press release at > http://www.tiscali.com/press/releases/10552825f1a.html > > "... As a result of this agreement, Tiscali will offer to its >subscribers across Europe the access to the entire World Wide Web, >including the new alternative domain names. The agreement underscores >Tiscali's commitment to embrace technological developments that >simplify, improve and expand the opportunities offered by internet >..." Interesting. How do they address collisions with New.net support in their resolvers?
Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "www.really-cool.alt. Now quit playing mind games with me and make it work for them." Time for someone to put this alternate root on the real map and make it possible to use: www.really-cool.alt.silly-new-tld-noXYZ.com the XYZ to be able to separate all the different silly companies doing this, we need to keep tally of them. -- Mikael Abrahamssonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 08:45:29 CDT, "John Palmer (NANOG Acct)" said: > "... As a result of this agreement, Tiscali will offer to its subscribers > across Europe the access to the entire World Wide Web, including the new > alternative domain names. I can see it now... "Hello, Tiscali User Support" "I found this really cool website, and I mailed the address to 15 of my buds, and they're all saying it doesn't exist and I need to quit smoking crack" "What's the website?" "www.really-cool.alt. Now quit playing mind games with me and make it work for them." pgpft8m4FVPEA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?
>From their press release at http://www.tiscali.com/press/releases/10552825f1a.html "... As a result of this agreement, Tiscali will offer to its subscribers across Europe the access to the entire World Wide Web, including the new alternative domain names. The agreement underscores Tiscali's commitment to embrace technological developments that simplify, improve and expand the opportunities offered by internet ..." John
