Re: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-13 Thread Wil Schultz


Son of a biscuit, they took the commands out of my 7200's and 6500's.

You used to be able to just type "ttcp" and follow some prompts, I'm  
not sure that Cisco ever really documented much of it though. I had  
found it through DOTU back in the day.


Quoted from Cisco about this:
"Note: The ttcp command is a hidden, unsupported, privileged mode  
command. As such, its availability may vary from one Cisco IOS  
software release to another, such that it might not exist in some  
releases."


http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/ttcp.html

-Wil

On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Gabor Ivanszky wrote:


Hi Wil,

could you give me a pointer how ttcp could be used router to router?

cheers,
Gabor

Wil Schultz wrote:


A couple of tools I use from time to time are iperf and ttcp. I'll  
run iperf on some host and either run ttcp to it from a router or  
iperf to another host. You can also run ttcp router to router.


-wil








Re: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Wil Schultz


A couple of tools I use from time to time are iperf and ttcp. I'll run  
iperf on some host and either run ttcp to it from a router or iperf to  
another host. You can also run ttcp router to router.


-wil

On Mar 10, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Joe Shen wrote:


we do not just want to analyze e2e performance, but to
monitor network performance at IP and TCP layer.

We monitor end-to-end ping with smokeping, but as you
know, ICMP data does not reflect application layer
permance at any time. So, we set up two hosts to
measure TCP permance.

Is there tools like smokeping to monitoring e2e TCP
connecting speed?

Joe




--- "Darden, Patrick S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Best way to do it is right after the SYN just count
"one one thousand, two one thousand" until you get
the ACK.  This works best for RFC 1149 traffic, but
is applicable for certain others as well.

I don't know of any automated tool, per se.  You
really couldn't do it *well* on the software side.
I see a few options:

1.  this invalidates itself, but it is easily
doable: get one of those ethernet cards that
includes all stack processing, and write a simple
driver that includes a timing mechanism and a
logger.  It invalidates itself because your
real-life connection speeds would depend on the
actual card you usually use, the OS, etc. ad
nauseum, and you would be bypassing all of those.

2.  if you are using a "free" as in open source OS,
specifically as in Linux or FreeBSD, then you could
write a simple kernel module that could do it.  It
would still be wrong--but depending on your skill it
wouldn't be too wrong.

3.  this might actually work for you.  Check to see
how many total TCP connections your OS can handle,
make sure your TCP timeout is set to the default 15
minutes, then set up a simple perl script that
simply starts a timer, opens sockets as fast as it
can, and when it reaches the total the OS can handle
it lets you know the time passed.  Take that and
divide by total number of connections and you get
the average  It won't be very accurate, but it
will give you some kind of idea.

Please forgive the humor

--Patrick Darden



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Joe Shen
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Subject: Tools to measure TCP connection speed



hi,

 is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection
speed?


 e.g. we want to measue the delay between the TCP
SYN
and receiving SYN ACK packet.


Joe





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RE: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Jamie Bowden

Ttcp will give you what you're looking for, but it's not something you
can run in the background and forget.  You have to bring it up on both
ends, and while it's running, it won't even pretend to try and be
friendly about bandwidth usage.  It'll give you a summary after it has
finished transferring whatever file(s) you feed it.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Joe Shen
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:51 AM
To: NANGO
Subject: RE: Tools to measure TCP connection speed



we do not just want to analyze e2e performance, but to
monitor network performance at IP and TCP layer.

We monitor end-to-end ping with smokeping, but as you
know, ICMP data does not reflect application layer
permance at any time. So, we set up two hosts to
measure TCP permance. 

Is there tools like smokeping to monitoring e2e TCP
connecting speed?

Joe




--- "Darden, Patrick S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Best way to do it is right after the SYN just count
> "one one thousand, two one thousand" until you get
> the ACK.  This works best for RFC 1149 traffic, but
> is applicable for certain others as well.
> 
> I don't know of any automated tool, per se.  You
> really couldn't do it *well* on the software side. 
> I see a few options:
> 
> 1.  this invalidates itself, but it is easily
> doable: get one of those ethernet cards that
> includes all stack processing, and write a simple
> driver that includes a timing mechanism and a
> logger.  It invalidates itself because your
> real-life connection speeds would depend on the
> actual card you usually use, the OS, etc. ad
> nauseum, and you would be bypassing all of those.
> 
> 2.  if you are using a "free" as in open source OS,
> specifically as in Linux or FreeBSD, then you could
> write a simple kernel module that could do it.  It
> would still be wrong--but depending on your skill it
> wouldn't be too wrong.
> 
> 3.  this might actually work for you.  Check to see
> how many total TCP connections your OS can handle,
> make sure your TCP timeout is set to the default 15
> minutes, then set up a simple perl script that
> simply starts a timer, opens sockets as fast as it
> can, and when it reaches the total the OS can handle
> it lets you know the time passed.  Take that and
> divide by total number of connections and you get
> the average  It won't be very accurate, but it
> will give you some kind of idea.
> 
> Please forgive the humor
> 
> --Patrick Darden
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Joe Shen
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:00 AM
> To: NANGO
> Subject: Tools to measure TCP connection speed
> 
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
>   is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection
> speed? 
> 
> 
>   e.g. we want to measue the delay between the TCP
> SYN
> and receiving SYN ACK packet.
> 
> 
>  Joe
> 
> 
>  
>
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RE: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Joe Shen


we do not just want to analyze e2e performance, but to
monitor network performance at IP and TCP layer.

We monitor end-to-end ping with smokeping, but as you
know, ICMP data does not reflect application layer
permance at any time. So, we set up two hosts to
measure TCP permance. 

Is there tools like smokeping to monitoring e2e TCP
connecting speed?

Joe




--- "Darden, Patrick S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Best way to do it is right after the SYN just count
> "one one thousand, two one thousand" until you get
> the ACK.  This works best for RFC 1149 traffic, but
> is applicable for certain others as well.
> 
> I don't know of any automated tool, per se.  You
> really couldn't do it *well* on the software side. 
> I see a few options:
> 
> 1.  this invalidates itself, but it is easily
> doable: get one of those ethernet cards that
> includes all stack processing, and write a simple
> driver that includes a timing mechanism and a
> logger.  It invalidates itself because your
> real-life connection speeds would depend on the
> actual card you usually use, the OS, etc. ad
> nauseum, and you would be bypassing all of those.
> 
> 2.  if you are using a "free" as in open source OS,
> specifically as in Linux or FreeBSD, then you could
> write a simple kernel module that could do it.  It
> would still be wrong--but depending on your skill it
> wouldn't be too wrong.
> 
> 3.  this might actually work for you.  Check to see
> how many total TCP connections your OS can handle,
> make sure your TCP timeout is set to the default 15
> minutes, then set up a simple perl script that
> simply starts a timer, opens sockets as fast as it
> can, and when it reaches the total the OS can handle
> it lets you know the time passed.  Take that and
> divide by total number of connections and you get
> the average  It won't be very accurate, but it
> will give you some kind of idea.
> 
> Please forgive the humor
> 
> --Patrick Darden
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Joe Shen
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:00 AM
> To: NANGO
> Subject: Tools to measure TCP connection speed
> 
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
>   is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection
> speed? 
> 
> 
>   e.g. we want to measue the delay between the TCP
> SYN
> and receiving SYN ACK packet.
> 
> 
>  Joe
> 
> 
>  
>
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Re: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Christopher Morrow

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Joe Shen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  hi,
>
>   is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection
>  speed?
>
>
>   e.g. we want to measue the delay between the TCP SYN
>  and receiving SYN ACK packet.

So, all you want to know is basic RTT? Do you want to know about the
network? or the hosts? or the whole 'system' ?

One simple thing might be to just use WireShark which can calculate
the various timings on an individual tcp-session basis. Another poster
suggests tcpdump, also a fine solution...

-Chris


RE: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Michienne Dixon
We use LAN Traffic v2 to test speeds on our network. 
http://www.omnicor.com/netest.htm

-
Michienne Dixon
Network Administrator
liNKCity
312 Armour Rd
North Kansas City, MO  64116
www.linkcity.org
(816) 412-7990



From: Joe Shen
Sent: Mon 3/10/2008 4:00 AM
To: NANGO
Subject: Tools to measure TCP connection speed


hi,

  is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection
speed? 


  e.g. we want to measue the delay between the TCP SYN
and receiving SYN ACK packet.


 Joe


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RE: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Ray Burkholder


> 
> On 2008-03-10, Joe Shen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection speed?
> 

WireShark, which also has a basic analysis package built-in for error and
connection setup statistics.


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Re: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Stuart Henderson

On 2008-03-10, Joe Shen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection
> speed? 

hping (or tcpdump while you make a connection by any method).




RE: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Darden, Patrick S.


Best way to do it is right after the SYN just count "one one thousand, two one 
thousand" until you get the ACK.  This works best for RFC 1149 traffic, but is 
applicable for certain others as well.

I don't know of any automated tool, per se.  You really couldn't do it *well* 
on the software side.  I see a few options:

1.  this invalidates itself, but it is easily doable: get one of those ethernet 
cards that includes all stack processing, and write a simple driver that 
includes a timing mechanism and a logger.  It invalidates itself because your 
real-life connection speeds would depend on the actual card you usually use, 
the OS, etc. ad nauseum, and you would be bypassing all of those.

2.  if you are using a "free" as in open source OS, specifically as in Linux or 
FreeBSD, then you could write a simple kernel module that could do it.  It 
would still be wrong--but depending on your skill it wouldn't be too wrong.

3.  this might actually work for you.  Check to see how many total TCP 
connections your OS can handle, make sure your TCP timeout is set to the 
default 15 minutes, then set up a simple perl script that simply starts a 
timer, opens sockets as fast as it can, and when it reaches the total the OS 
can handle it lets you know the time passed.  Take that and divide by total 
number of connections and you get the average  It won't be very accurate, 
but it will give you some kind of idea.

Please forgive the humor

--Patrick Darden



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Joe Shen
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:00 AM
To: NANGO
Subject: Tools to measure TCP connection speed



hi,

  is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection
speed? 


  e.g. we want to measue the delay between the TCP SYN
and receiving SYN ACK packet.


 Joe


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Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Joe Shen

hi,

  is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection
speed? 


  e.g. we want to measue the delay between the TCP SYN
and receiving SYN ACK packet.


 Joe


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