RE: UUNET instability?
Our Manhattan, KS POP had some trouble around 9:00am CST ago but I can't find any evidence. BGP sessions haven't been touched, no downed interfaces, etc... We have one T1 to UUNet at that location. blake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Streiner, Justin Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UUNET instability? Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
Re: UUNET instability?
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote: Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about I saw the same thing on our UUNET connection. Backbone: Normalhm -- -- Jon Lewis *[EMAIL PROTECTED]*| I route System Administrator| therefore you are Atlantic Net| _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Chris Pace wrote: It was really bad this morning. I had problems with Bellsouth, ATT and Qwest's connection to UUNET. Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I can get alerts and updates about what is going on with UUNET ? There's www.noc.uu.net, but unless the problem is long lasting or severe enough that it can't be swept under the rug, they don't seem to admit to anything on that page. -- -- Jon Lewis *[EMAIL PROTECTED]*| I route System Administrator| therefore you are Atlantic Net| _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
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Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I can get alerts and updates about what is going on with UUNET ? http://quotes.nasdaq.com/Quote.dll?mode=stocksymbol=wcomsymbol=symbol=symbol=symbol=symbol=symbol=symbol=symbol=symbol=quick.x=0quick.y=0
Re: UUNET instability?
I tried to get a couple of messages to the list earlier, but I guess the problems stop it. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:07:37 -0400 (EDT) From: James S. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problems with UUNet backbone Maybe this is unrelated, but myself and some other collegues I've contact by phone just in the past few minutes have noticed some connectivity problems with the Worldcom backbone. Particularly, some routers on 152.63.131.0 seem to be down. The result is I can't get to the root name servers. I've tried tracerouting to all 13 root name server and I can only get to 3. The traceroutes all die in the block I mentioned about. Anybody else noticing this? Can anybody responsible for the IP block confirm? On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote: Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms --
Re: UUNET instability?
Justin, We saw a big traffic drop from them exactly at the same time that you saw. We are contacting them to get more details. In fact, our BGP session with them reseted. German On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote: Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
RE: UUNET instability?
UUNET confirmed that they had a network-wide outage (ISIS related) around that time which caused some bgp sessions to reset. The issue seems to be resolved at this time. They are still isolating the problem. Hazim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Streiner, Justin Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UUNET instability? Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
Re: UUNET instability? (fwd)
We have seen the same thing at 10:10am Eastern time and now at 11:45am. In fact, it's ongoing but we've not received any official explanation. And as always, www.noc.uu.net reports 'all is well'. Kevin Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. I got similiar when I called in. I also saw my circuit to them drop at 7:07:42 PDT and a series of up/downs until 7:13 PDT (along with a few BGP resets). NOC claims that that's due to backbone routing issues, which I had a hard time believing (at least the up/downs). I escalated it and got a more knowledgable NOCite who re-iterated the instability issues and said he'd get back to me with more info.
Re: UUNET instability?
Is there a way to notify UUNET of the problem ? (I know they are problably aware, but it would make me feel better) Since I am not a UUNET customer they will not even speak to me. My Customers are screaming at me and I have to open trouble tickets with at least 5 providers. I have to explain to my customers what is going on and I am powerless. - Original Message - From: Pena, Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Streiner, Justin' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: RE: UUNET instability? Yes, we are peering with UUNet in too many cities a cross USA and all the Network is a messed up, also I found some BGP session cleared by UUNet peering routers. Antonio J. Pena -Original Message- From: Streiner, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UUNET instability? Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
Re: UUNET instability?
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, mike harrison wrote: And us as well.. it's coming back up quickly.. and I am seeing routes restored. I hate it when this happens right after everyone walks out the door for lunch. Can't we schedule our unscheduled outages better? Hopefully this is not related to the small explosion that just occured in NYC. It may be an industrial accident, it was at a tech school (auto/etc..) or it may not be. 19th st and 6th avenue, they teach welding among other things so They're likely to have lots of bottled volatile gases around. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, German Martinez wrote: Justin, We saw a big traffic drop from them exactly at the same time that you saw. We are contacting them to get more details. In fact, our BGP session with them reseted. German On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote: Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms -- -- Joel Jaeggli Academic User Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] --PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E -- In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of the scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
UUNet instability
Just announced on their site: http://www1.worldcom.com/us/tools/noc/status.xml -- Jason Beltrame INetU, Inc.(tm)- http://www.INetU.net Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Phone: (610) 266-7441
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I live in that area, and its far enough from 111 8th to not cause any serious problems, and there's no other telco or network facilities around there, AFAIK. Most of the fiber, etc, is run along 16th street or up/down 9th ave. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew J. Zito Systems Engineer Register.com, Inc., 11th Floor, 575 8th Avenue, New York, NY 10018 Ph: 212-798-9205 PGP Key Fingerprint: 4E AC E1 0B BE DD 7D BC D2 06 B2 B0 BF 55 68 99 -Original Message- From: Jacob M Wilkens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: UUNET instability? Boiler explosion at 635 Avenue of the Americas: http://www.msnbc.com/news/743536.asp?0cm=c20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mike harrison Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:16 PM To: German Martinez Cc: Streiner, Justin; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UUNET instability? And us as well.. it's coming back up quickly.. and I am seeing routes restored. I hate it when this happens right after everyone walks out the door for lunch. Can't we schedule our unscheduled outages better? Hopefully this is not related to the small explosion that just occured in NYC. It may be an industrial accident, it was at a tech school (auto/etc..) or it may not be. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, German Martinez wrote: Justin, We saw a big traffic drop from them exactly at the same time that you saw. We are contacting them to get more details. In fact, our BGP session with them reseted. German On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote: Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
RE: UUNET instability?
Anyone think this is related the Klez virus? Jeff -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:58 AM To: Streiner, Justin; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: UUNET instability? Here is Memphis we are seeing the same thing. Twice this morning we have dropped and our BGP is freaking out. -Original Message- From: Streiner, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UUNET instability? Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
Re: UUNET instability?
That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote: UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655. dan Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
Re: UUNET instability?
At 02:51 PM 4/25/2002 -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets. Some CW transport was lost as well. They also have a master ticket open. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote: UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655. dan Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
Re: UUNET instability?
Sometimes it feels like the support departments just scan cnn.com to find a catastrophe to blame an outtage on. A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings will probably be cited before long... On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Sean Donelan wrote: That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote: UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655. dan Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
Re: UUNET instability?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:00:44 -0500 From: J Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 02:51 PM 4/25/2002 -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets. Some CW transport was lost as well. They also have a master ticket open. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote: UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655. Thought this happened YESTERDAY - 4/24 ... Another one? dan Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. --- Gregory Hicks| Principal Systems Engineer Cadence Design Systems | Direct: 408.576.3609 555 River Oaks Pkwy M/S 6B1 San Jose, CA 95134 The trouble with doing anything right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. When a team of dedicated individuals makes a commitment to act as one... the sky's the limit. There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit. - Robert Woodruff
Re: UUNET instability?
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Sean Donelan wrote: That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets. I'd heard something about IS-IS instability, and it doesn't surprise me. On big networks, IGP stability is super-important, be it IS-IS, EIGRP, or OSPF. jms
Re: UUNET instability?
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:03:52 PDT, Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote: UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655. Thought this happened YESTERDAY - 4/24 ... Another one? No, the train derailment was yesterday. It's just they've got the route flap damping constant set in units of days, so it's only now propogating. ;) msg01160/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:10:28 +1000, Lionel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:02:19 -0500 (CDT), Robert A. Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes it feels like the support departments just scan cnn.com to find a catastrophe to blame an outtage on. A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings will probably be cited before long... telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Folks, please don't try to connect to that service. Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it. -- W . | ,. w , Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them.Perna condita delenda est ---^^---
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This seems like a great time to ask a question.. Got multihoming to multiple providers? Bri On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Chris Pace wrote: Is there a way to notify UUNET of the problem ? (I know they are problably aware, but it would make me feel better) Since I am not a UUNET customer they will not even speak to me. My Customers are screaming at me and I have to open trouble tickets with at least 5 providers. I have to explain to my customers what is going on and I am powerless. - Original Message - From: Pena, Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Streiner, Justin' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: RE: UUNET instability? Yes, we are peering with UUNet in too many cities a cross USA and all the Network is a messed up, also I found some BGP session cleared by UUNet peering routers. Antonio J. Pena -Original Message- From: Streiner, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UUNET instability? Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:04:42 -0400, Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 05:48:11AM +1000, Lionel wrote: Folks, please don't try to connect to that service. Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it. Generally something doesn't get Slashdotted unless it is fully of poorly written dynamic code which should never have been put in production in the first place, such as PHP doing 20 mysql queries per page view or something else equally stupid and linux kiddie. A BOFH quote generator, on the other hand, is very very simple. It boggles the mind to imagine a server so weak or code so bad that it couldn't handle a couple hundred connections from NANOG readers. If that is the case, I would strongly suggest you reevaluate the language or method in which it was written. I beg your pardon? Where did you get the idea that I wrote or hosted it? I was assuming it'd been Slashdotted because it was working fine before I posted the link, then stopped working shortly afterwards. It's also entirely possible the somebody at the site got annoyed at all the requests put a DENY ALL on it. -- W . | ,. w , Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them.Perna condita delenda est ---^^---
Re: UUNET instability?
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Lionel wrote: telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Folks, please don't try to connect to that service. Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it. Works fine here Are you sure you haven't got uunet between you and it? ;-) - Forrest W. Christian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) AC7DE -- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 -- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/
Re: UUNET instability?
On Apr 25, 5:34pm, blitz wrote: Subject: Re: UUNET instability? * *At 16:59 4/25/02 -0400, you wrote: * *On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Lionel wrote: * * * A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings will probably be cited * before long... * * telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 * *The Archive of BOFH is here: * *http://bofh.ntk.net/Bastard.html Or you can buy the books: http://www.plan9.org Kelly J. (not affiliated, just a fan) -- Kelly J. Cooper- Security Engineer, CISSP GENUITY- Main # - 800-632-7638 3 Van de Graaff Drive - Fax - 781-262-2744 Burlington, MA 01803 - http://www.genuity.net
RE: UUNET instability?
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Kelly J. Cooper wrote: Or you can buy the books: http://www.plan9.org Yeah I have the first BOfH. That's my #1 choice for bathroom reading, I highly recommend it! I guess it might be cooler to have it on dotmatrix printer paper, but the book format is compact and nice. -dre
RE: UUNET instability?
A few weeks ago while cleaning out old computer stuff in my basement noc, I found my BOfH that I had printed on a 15 chain printer (with alternating green and white bars!) back in the early 90s some time. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Kelly J. Cooper wrote: Or you can buy the books: http://www.plan9.org Yeah I have the first BOfH. That's my #1 choice for bathroom reading, I highly recommend it! I guess it might be cooler to have it on dotmatrix printer paper, but the book format is compact and nice. -dre
RE: UUNET instability?
According to Worldcom's spokesperson, a train derailment near Toledo Ohio cut two cables at 8am EDT. http://www.idg.net/ic_852639_1773_1-3921.html Matrix.NET measurements indicate significant network problems began around 10am EDT with a larger blip around noon EDT. http://average.miq.net/ According to Reuters, MSNBC web site was offline for two hours Thursday morning. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20020425/wr_nm/tech_msnbc_outage_dc_1
