Re: net-co-op (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:28:24 PST, Jay Hennigan said:

> >  Oh come on, what was .coop for if not this? :)
> 
> People in the poultry business?  :-)

Actually, a somewhat reasonable conclusion for a non-native speaker of English,
and a concern that *does* have to be addressed by many of the "plethora of TLD"
proposals that crop up every once in a while.  '.coop' probably has less mnemonic 
value on
a worldwide basis than the Mandarin characters for the capital city of China



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Re: net-co-op (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-17 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine

> > > net-co-op.org. ...
> >
> >  Oh come on, what was .coop for if not this? :)
> 
> People in the poultry business?  :-)

chicken.coop was sought for by many, myself included.

The Director, Co-op Business Development and Member Services, National
Cooperative Business Association, and I are now playing phone tag, so
I expect to have some progress to report for a member-owned colo coop
on a daily basis.

It occurs to me that a member-owned colo coop is not necessarily
location-dependent, nor uniquely valued.

Eric


Re: net-co-op (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-17 Thread Jay Hennigan

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Daniel Medina wrote:

>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 02:01:43PM -0700, Janet Sullivan wrote:
> > Based on the response I've gotten off-list from people interested in
> > sharing our resources & know-how with each other, I've just registered
> > net-co-op.org. ...
>
>  Oh come on, what was .coop for if not this? :)

People in the poultry business?  :-)

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Re: net-co-op (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-17 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine

Janet,

Since your note earlier today there have been just under 200 fetches of
the html.

I've written to Byron Henderson and asked him to help me with the coop
formation. He and I worked on the .coop sTLD proposal, and as I mention
I discussed member-owned colo coop with Carolyn Hoover of the NCBA this
week, as well as the similar idea for bloggers as a vhost user class in
Rome last week.

There are not a lot of cooperatives out there ... Mt. Xinu was employee
owned. Poptel was an employee-owned coop in the ISP and hosting markets,
including the .coop registry implementor and operator, but recently was
forced to convert to structured venture-equity ownership. There is some
bandwidth purchaser's cooperative in the South West ... 

Cheers,
Eric


Re: net-co-op (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-17 Thread Daniel Medina

On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 02:01:43PM -0700, Janet Sullivan wrote:
> Based on the response I've gotten off-list from people interested in 
> sharing our resources & know-how with each other, I've just registered 
> net-co-op.org. ...

 Oh come on, what was .coop for if not this? :)

-- 
Daniel Medina



net-co-op (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-17 Thread Janet Sullivan
Based on the response I've gotten off-list from people interested in 
sharing our resources & know-how with each other, I've just registered 
net-co-op.org.  In the next couple of days I'll set up a mailing list 
and a basic web page.

Once the mailing list is set up, I'll post another message to NANOG.  On 
the net-co-op mailing list we can hash out a basic charter agreement and 
get to know each other.

More to come...

Janet