Re: what's a good way to annoy the hell out of somebody at chello.be?

2004-11-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

On 2004-11-05, Andreas Ott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> compose a 'written-by-a-lawyer' looking letter in plain text and print
> it out. I bet 515/udp is open as well and most printers can handle
> plain ASCII.
>
>>   515/tcp   open printer

Ron Guilmette used to notify operators of insecure machines with remote writes
to syslog (that'd get logged on the console, as like as not) .. that didn't
exactly win him friends or influence people (including Paul Vixie I think) some
5..6 years back :)

srs



Re: what's a good way to annoy the hell out of somebody at chello.be?

2004-11-05 Thread Deepak Jain

Paul Vixie wrote:
a customer of chello.be has been repeating a dns dynamic update against my
zone every four minutes since october 20.  chello's abuse reporting channel
is no doubt full of spam reports.  their noc no doubt doesn't care about
end-user problems.  i nmap'd the offending box:

Hmmm..
Couldn't sending them [and only them] specifically bad information for 
your zone... say everything (*) goes to a webpage that says "you REALLY 
need to fix this?"

I think most ISPs could reach their unreachable customers by forcing all 
their connections [http at least] to a page that starts out with "your 
web surfing has been interrupted because we need to talk to you... 
please wait 60 seconds to be taken to the web page you wanted to get to. 
 Or just call us.."

And the time keeps getting longer... and longer... as more time passes 
without it being cleared by the noc.

It seems to get my attention in hotels when they hotel does it to me 
[and expires my dhcp ip]. Usually that is just that I need to renew my 
daily IP subscription, but you get the drift.

If they are requesting information from you, give them information that 
directs them to contact you.

[I am imagining a world where every file on an FTP server becomes a 
README when you have violated their access rules].

Not saying its a good idea.. Just an idea.
Deepak



Re: what's a good way to annoy the hell out of somebody at chello.be?

2004-11-05 Thread Andreas Ott

Hi,
On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 05:54:03PM +, Paul Vixie wrote:

compose a 'written-by-a-lawyer' looking letter in plain text and print
it out. I bet 515/udp is open as well and most printers can handle
plain ASCII.

>   515/tcp   open printer

-andreas


Re: what's a good way to annoy the hell out of somebody at chello.be?

2004-11-05 Thread Bill Stewart

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:54:03 +, Paul Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> a customer of chello.be has been repeating a dns dynamic update against my
> zone every four minutes since october 20.  chello's abuse reporting channel
> is no doubt full of spam reports.  their noc no doubt doesn't care about end-user 
> problems. 

Voice phone call to their NOC, maybe?  Old-fashioned, but sometimes it helps.

Alternatively, an SMTP alphabet spam against their box ought to find
some email address
beside the unread postmaster - but try sending mail to "root" first.

Or just filter out their IP address.


Re: what's a good way to annoy the hell out of somebody at chello.be?

2004-11-05 Thread Randy Bush

we all have this kind of problem.

if you're on freebsd, man ipfw.  i am sure there are similar
on other oss.

randy



what's a good way to annoy the hell out of somebody at chello.be?

2004-11-05 Thread Paul Vixie

a customer of chello.be has been repeating a dns dynamic update against my
zone every four minutes since october 20.  chello's abuse reporting channel
is no doubt full of spam reports.  their noc no doubt doesn't care about
end-user problems.  i nmap'd the offending box:

  Starting nmap 3.50 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-11-05 17:24 GMT
  Interesting ports on cable-62-205-122-245.upc.chello.be (62.205.122.245):
  (The 1638 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
  PORT  STATESERVICE
  9/tcp open discard
  13/tcpopen daytime
  21/tcpopen ftp
  25/tcpopen smtp
  37/tcpfiltered time
  53/tcpopen domain
  111/tcp   open rpcbind
  113/tcp   filtered auth
  135/tcp   filtered msrpc
  137/tcp   filtered netbios-ns
  138/tcp   filtered netbios-dgm
  139/tcp   filtered netbios-ssn
  445/tcp   filtered microsoft-ds
  515/tcp   open printer
  548/tcp   open afpovertcp
  1024/tcp  open kdm
  1025/tcp  open NFS-or-IIS
  1026/tcp  filtered LSA-or-nterm
  8009/tcp  open ajp13
  8080/tcp  open http-proxy
  1/tcp open snet-sensor-mgmt

and i connected to every one of those services that i had a client for, and
sent mail to the postmaster (using telnet and the @[] notation), but i think
i have not done enough to set off any kind of intrusion detection systems.

what's a socially acceptable way to be rude enough to make these people pay
attention to me?  i'm asking not just for this host -- i'm hoping there's a
"community standard" i can follow, and recommend that others follow.

the box is raw debian.  in fact its hostname (according to its exim and bind)
is "debian".  i don't think anybody's reading its "postmaster" mailbox.  i
do not think there is any evil intent in the updates they won't stop sending
me, but they're filling my logs and i don't want to firewall them.