Re: [NANOG] would ip6 help us safeing energy ?

2008-04-28 Thread Dale Carstensen
I became aware of something called espn360 last fall.  I just did a
google search so I could provide a URL, but one of the top search
responses was a Aug 9, 2007 posting saying ESPN360 Dies an
Unneccessary Death: A Lesson in Network Neutrality ...  I don't
think it's dead, though, and maybe if you don't know about it, you
can do your own google search.

I think Disney/ABC thinks they can get individual ISPs to pay them
to carry sports audio/video streams.  I suppose that would be yet
another multicast stream method, assuming an ISP location had multiple
customers viewing the same stream.

Are other content providers trying to do something similar?  How are
operators dealing with this?  What opinions are there in the operator
community?

  Mr. Dale



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[NANOG] Purpose of Internap's PNET AS22212

2008-04-28 Thread Thurber
Can anybody shed some light on Internap's PNET AS22212? Specifaly how it
relates to their PNAP architecture?  Is Internap now doing peering? I was
under the impression that their entire business model was based around
isolated PNAPs and being a backboneless provider. Attempts at getting an
explanation from Internap have been fruitless.

CT



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Re: [NANOG] would ip6 help us safeing energy ?

2008-04-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Dale Carstensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think Disney/ABC thinks they can get individual ISPs to pay them
  to carry sports audio/video streams.  I suppose that would be yet
  another multicast stream method, assuming an ISP location had multiple
  customers viewing the same stream.

  Are other content providers trying to do something similar?  How are
  operators dealing with this?  What opinions are there in the operator
  community?

I'm not sure of the particulars, but Hulu (NBC/Universal and News
Corp)  and FanCast (Comcast) seem to have an interesting relationship.
 I would love to know more, but i detest reading financials. ;-)

-Jim P.

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Re: [NANOG] would ip6 help us safeing energy ?

2008-04-28 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
Dale:

ESPN360 used to be something that internet subscribers paid for themselves,
but now it's something that ISPs (most interesting to those who are also
video providers) can offer.

If you google around you can find a pretty good Wikipedia page on ESPN360.

I looked into this for our operations because we do both (internet and
video).  The price was reasonable and you only pay on the number of internet
subs that meet their minimum performance standards.  Since 50% of our user
base is at 128/128 kbps, that's a lot of subscribers we didn't need to pay
for.  In the end, I didn't get buy-in from the rest of the management team
into adding this.  I think they perceived (and probably correctly so) that
too few of our users would actually *use* it.  If I could get even 2% of our
customer base seriously interested I think we would move on this.

BTW, there's no multicast (at lease from Disney/ABC directly) involved.
It's just another unicast video stream like YouTube.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Dale Carstensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:02 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [NANOG] would ip6 help us safeing energy ?

I became aware of something called espn360 last fall.  I just did a
google search so I could provide a URL, but one of the top search
responses was a Aug 9, 2007 posting saying ESPN360 Dies an
Unneccessary Death: A Lesson in Network Neutrality ...  I don't
think it's dead, though, and maybe if you don't know about it, you
can do your own google search.

I think Disney/ABC thinks they can get individual ISPs to pay them
to carry sports audio/video streams.  I suppose that would be yet
another multicast stream method, assuming an ISP location had multiple
customers viewing the same stream.

Are other content providers trying to do something similar?  How are
operators dealing with this?  What opinions are there in the operator
community?

  Mr. Dale



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[NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-28 Thread up

In 2006, I signed a 3 year contract with Broadwing for a 1 cabinet 
colocation with 6Mbs dedicated for under $1,000/mo.  A few weeks ago, 
about halfway through this contract, I get a letter from Level 3's 
Director of Colocation that they are going to raise my price by several 
hundred dollars a month.

I spoke with my new Level 3 rep, and he just notified me that their legal 
deparment confirms that all they have to do is give me 30 days notice to 
increase their price.

This does not make sense to me.  I am bound to a 3 year contract, where I 
have to pay them the rest of the term if I were to leave early, but they 
can jack up the price by 40-50% during that time, arbitrarily?  I do not 
see that provision in my contract, and would rather avoid legal expenses 
if possible.  Has anyone else had to deal with this sort of thing from 
Level 3?

TIA,

James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
http://3.am
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