6in4/6to4/6over4/etc (Was: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?)

2009-07-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
Nathan Ward wrote:
[..]
> I think someone wrote a draft explaining this a while back.. not sure
> where or what it was called.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6in4   = proto-41
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6to4   = proto-41 with 2002::/16 dst
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/6rd= proto-41 with own 6to4 prefix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6over4 = 6 over 4-multicast (*)

Or for a list which also contains a few others:
http://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=comparison

Greets,
 Jeroen

* = the only one I really don't get and never saw used ;)




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Re: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Nathan Ward

On 14/07/2009, at 4:23 AM, Rick Ernst wrote:

Either they don't exist, or my Google-fu is particularly bad this  
morning.


I'm trying to get my toes wet with IPv6.  I've established an internal
6to4/4to6 tunnel.  I'd also like to have a testbed for access to  
public v6
sites.  I'm also trying to find some clue at my upstreams, but  
figured I'd
ask here as well.  Are there any 4to6 gateway available?  I have  
assigned v6

space.



Because I'm pedantic, 6to4 and 6in4 are two different things. It  
sounds like you want 6in4.
They use the same encapsulation, but 6to4 has specific magic in how  
the outer IPv4 destination is built, taken from the inner IPv6  
destination address.

6over4 is different again.

I think someone wrote a draft explaining this a while back.. not sure  
where or what it was called.


--
Nathan Ward




Re: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

2009-07-13 Thread Jim Wininger
What release are you running? We are currently at 3.6.2 (as recommended by
Cisco (our SE and some upper levels)).


On 7/13/09 6:15 PM, "Dan Snyder"  wrote:

> We also have a couple running full tables of BGP with XR code and they have
> been running solid for a couple of years now with no problems.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Scott Berkman  wrote:
>> We have 2 12k's on our borders and both are running IOS GS code, but are
>> rock solid.
>> 
>>         -Scott
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jim Wininger [mailto:jwinin...@indianafiber.net]
>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:20 PM
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.
>> 
>> Is anyone on the list running the Cisco 12000 Series routers with XR? We
>> have a couple of these in our network and are having a few issues with them.
>> 
>> Specifically the line cards will reboot for some unknown reason
>> (12000-SIP-501). We recently replaced one of the cards and the new hardware
>> (<6mo old) is doing the same thing.
>> 
>> Anyone have issues with these routers?
>> --
>> Jim Wininger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 


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Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
ryan.sla...@tac.com wrote:
> Take this with the grain of salt that I do not work for APC, but for a
> sister company.  The word that I have heard is that they are in no rush
> to discontinue any of the product line.  In fact rumor is that APC was
> very happy to have the MGE products available to them for sale to
> customers.  As a side note I have several MGE UPS in service and have
> had zero problem getting support and maintenance from APC for them.
> 

Interesting.

The reason I ask is that I'm kind of attracted to the MGE Galaxy and its
paralleling N+1 capability. I had a bad experience with a frame shorting
out a few years ago after it went into bypass but didn't shut off the
inverter output; hilarity ensued. It seems like the Galaxy and Smart VT
overlap, although the Galaxy has better specs on paper. I was also
recommended a Symmetra PX 80kW frame.

I asked my rep and they were kind of ambiguous about the MGE line, hence
my redirect of the question here.

~Seth



Re: Please do not CC NANOG when e-mailing Dean Anderson [was: Can someone from SORBS contact me offlist?]

2009-07-13 Thread jamie
How about, "Don't reply to Dean Anderson".  :-)


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

> [SNIP]
>
> Everyone,
>
> Please do not CC nanog@nanog.org when replying to one of Dean Anderson's
> ... uh ... missives[*].  We do not see the original, so by replying and
> CC'ing the list, you are helping him get his ... er ... message[*] to a
> wider audience.  And if you have actually read any of his ... umm ...
> posts[*], then you should realize that is to the list's detriment.
>
> I'd suggest the same for other lists too, but definitely for NANOG related
> stuff.
>
> --
> TTFN,
> patrick
>
> [*] I have been very careful to not call them what they really are for fear
> of the MLC. :)
>
>
>


Re: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

2009-07-13 Thread Dan Snyder
We also have a couple running full tables of BGP with XR code and they have
been running solid for a couple of years now with no problems.
-Dan

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Scott Berkman  wrote:

> We have 2 12k's on our borders and both are running IOS GS code, but are
> rock solid.
>
>-Scott
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Wininger [mailto:jwinin...@indianafiber.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:20 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.
>
> Is anyone on the list running the Cisco 12000 Series routers with XR? We
> have a couple of these in our network and are having a few issues with
> them.
>
> Specifically the line cards will reboot for some unknown reason
> (12000-SIP-501). We recently replaced one of the cards and the new hardware
> (<6mo old) is doing the same thing.
>
> Anyone have issues with these routers?
> --
> Jim Wininger
>
>
>
>
>


Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
See, now thats what I like to hear after an acquisition like this.
You expect a certain redundancy but to have it said that, "we're not
merely interested in the underlying technology, we like the products
just the say they are and have no plans to change them (except maybe
to standardize the management software interface," or something along
those lines is a darned good thing.

'cause lemme tell ya, I like the MGE systems I have and am very glad
to hear that APC thinks MGE gear is just ducky.

-Wayne

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 03:51:11PM -0500, ryan.sla...@tac.com wrote:
> Take this with the grain of salt that I do not work for APC, but for a
> sister company.  The word that I have heard is that they are in no rush
> to discontinue any of the product line.  In fact rumor is that APC was
> very happy to have the MGE products available to them for sale to
> customers.  As a side note I have several MGE UPS in service and have
> had zero problem getting support and maintenance from APC for them.
> 
> RS
> 
> 

---
Wayne Bouchard
w...@typo.org
Network Dude
http://www.typo.org/~web/



RE: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

2009-07-13 Thread Scott Berkman
We have 2 12k's on our borders and both are running IOS GS code, but are
rock solid.

-Scott

-Original Message-
From: Jim Wininger [mailto:jwinin...@indianafiber.net] 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:20 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

Is anyone on the list running the Cisco 12000 Series routers with XR? We
have a couple of these in our network and are having a few issues with them.

Specifically the line cards will reboot for some unknown reason
(12000-SIP-501). We recently replaced one of the cards and the new hardware
(<6mo old) is doing the same thing.

Anyone have issues with these routers?
-- 
Jim Wininger






RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread ryan.slater
Take this with the grain of salt that I do not work for APC, but for a
sister company.  The word that I have heard is that they are in no rush
to discontinue any of the product line.  In fact rumor is that APC was
very happy to have the MGE products available to them for sale to
customers.  As a side note I have several MGE UPS in service and have
had zero problem getting support and maintenance from APC for them.

RS




RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Erik Amundson
We asked our local APC rep that exact question last week.  He told us that the 
MGE line of UPSes fill a whole that APC doesn't have in their own lineup, and 
they will continue being sold as the product for folks absolutely require a 
typical double-conversion online UPS.  As opposed to the 'hybrid' model of the 
Symmetra...

It didn't sound to me like they were planning on getting rid of the MGE line at 
this point.

- Erik

-Original Message-
From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:se...@rollernet.us] 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:43 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: MGE UPS Systems

I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS
systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged into
APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that my
facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great for
normal electrical gear that can be backed against a wall, but not so
great for a product which is designed for the "everything goes in with
your racks" mindset. Any insight would be appreciated.

~Seth



RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary
> Or are you talking about Eaton's?
> 
> http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/SearchResults/CT_136576

History (as I recall it).

Schneider Electric bought MGE late 2003
Schneider Electric bought APC late 2006 
  (and merges APC/MGE product line, which has overlap)
Schneider Electric sold "small" MGE product line
  to Eaton late 2007 (these are the office/small business
  type UPSs, as I recall, and overlapped the APC 
  consumer/office/small business offerings).
 

I do not know the plans regarding how Schneider
Electric will deal with the remaining overlap in
the high end APC/MGE UPS business.



RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
> We have 3 big Comet systems, and we're absolutely delighted with
> them.  Their service is the best we receive from any vendor we deal
> with.

I'll second that. We have a 50 KVA MGE Comet and it has been rock solid, and
their support is excellent.




RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Wallace Keith
While I still have a bunch of MGE Comet systems running, we did take one 
electrical room and replace them with Symmetra PX's,  It did require some 
conduit work as they were moved from the wall to the center (but they are not 
as deep as a Comet) , to give the required cleareances. These are not your 
typical bottom of the rack units (although they come in their own racks). We 
have them equipped for 125KVA

Love the Comet's, I would check with APC regarding product lifecycle.

-Original Message-
From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:se...@rollernet.us] 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:43 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: MGE UPS Systems

I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS
systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged into
APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that my
facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great for
normal electrical gear that can be backed against a wall, but not so
great for a product which is designed for the "everything goes in with
your racks" mindset. Any insight would be appreciated.

~Seth



Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

2009-07-13 Thread Jim Wininger
Is anyone on the list running the Cisco 12000 Series routers with XR? We
have a couple of these in our network and are having a few issues with them.

Specifically the line cards will reboot for some unknown reason
(12000-SIP-501). We recently replaced one of the cards and the new hardware
(<6mo old) is doing the same thing.

Anyone have issues with these routers?
-- 
Jim Wininger




Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Benjamin Billon

Or are you talking about Eaton's?

http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/SearchResults/CT_136576

Dixon, Justin a écrit :

I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of


UPS
  

systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged


into
  

APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that


my
  

facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great


for
  

normal electrical gear that can be backed against a wall, but not so
great for a product which is designed for the "everything goes in with
your racks" mindset. Any insight would be appreciated.

~Seth



It looks like they are still available in the product selector on the
APC website.

http://www.apc.com/products/category.cfm?id=13
http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=361
http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=365

If you're wondering about long term someone from their sales dept. can
probably tell you if they plan to keep the product line or discontinue
it.




  


Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Adam LaFountain
>
> I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS
> systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged into
> APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that my
> facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great for
> normal electrical gear that can be backed against a wall, but not so
> great for a product which is designed for the "everything goes in with
> your racks" mindset. Any insight would be appreciated.



I heard the MGE product set was designed to replace the "typical/old" UPS
product sets, like the Silcon Series, and that APC branded units would be
concentrated on the "Symmetra" product line.  Keep in mind the Symmetras
above around 30kva are self contained units that are really racked in the
same rack as other equipment.


Please do not CC NANOG when e-mailing Dean Anderson [was: Can someone from SORBS contact me offlist?]

2009-07-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore

[SNIP]

Everyone,

Please do not CC nanog@nanog.org when replying to one of Dean  
Anderson's ... uh ... missives[*].  We do not see the original, so by  
replying and CC'ing the list, you are helping him get his ... er ...  
message[*] to a wider audience.  And if you have actually read any of  
his ... umm ... posts[*], then you should realize that is to the  
list's detriment.


I'd suggest the same for other lists too, but definitely for NANOG  
related stuff.


--
TTFN,
patrick

[*] I have been very careful to not call them what they really are for  
fear of the MLC. :)





Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Dan Armstrong


We have 3 big Comet systems, and we're absolutely delighted with  
them.  Their service is the best we receive from any vendor we deal  
with.




On 13-Jul-09, at 3:42 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of  
UPS
systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged  
into
APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is  
that my
facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great  
for

normal electrical gear that can be backed against a wall, but not so
great for a product which is designed for the "everything goes in with
your racks" mindset. Any insight would be appreciated.

~Seth






RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Dixon, Justin
> I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of
UPS
> systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged
into
> APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that
my
> facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great
for
> normal electrical gear that can be backed against a wall, but not so
> great for a product which is designed for the "everything goes in with
> your racks" mindset. Any insight would be appreciated.
>
> ~Seth

It looks like they are still available in the product selector on the
APC website.

http://www.apc.com/products/category.cfm?id=13
http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=361
http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=365

If you're wondering about long term someone from their sales dept. can
probably tell you if they plan to keep the product line or discontinue
it.






MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS
systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged into
APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that my
facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great for
normal electrical gear that can be backed against a wall, but not so
great for a product which is designed for the "everything goes in with
your racks" mindset. Any insight would be appreciated.

~Seth



H3C Switches/Routers

2009-07-13 Thread Justin Krejci
Nanog,

I was just looking at the H3C 12500 enterprise product for which I received
a slideshow presentation on its features and comparisons to Nexus 7018,
Foundry/Brocade RX32, Juniper EX8218 and Force10 E1200. 

It does not look like they have a significant market share but make a lot of
bold claims on side-by-side comparisons to comparable products from their
competition.

Is anyone using H3C products (enterprise or otherwise) here at all? If so,
what are your thoughts on them? Are there any noticeable drawbacks?
Performance issues? Support? Just an overall summary would be nice.

Thanks,
Justin Krejci 




3rd Party Router Comparisons and Testing

2009-07-13 Thread Brad Fleming

Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone has a good, trusted, non-partial source for  
3rd party testing and/or comparisons of the major routing hardware  
vendors. I'm willing to pay for a subscription / membership to an  
organization if the information is well assembled recent.  
Specifically, I'd like (love) to see a comparison between Juniper MX  
series, Cisco 6500/7600 series, Brocade XMR/MLX series, and any others  
that I don't even know about.


If your company has recently (say the past 18 months?) completed an  
analysis and you can provide the results, I can keep them private  
(this is only for my use, not official decision making).


Does anyone happen to have a source they would be willing to pass  
along? Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

--
Brad Fleming
Kansas Research and Education Network



Re: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Rick Ernst
Multiple responses of tunnelbroker.net.   Couldn't have been any easier to
setup and get going.

Thanks!


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Chad Burnham  wrote:

> Rick,
>
> I use this one:
>
> http://www.tunnelbroker.net/
>
> Free!
>
> Chad
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Ernst [mailto:na...@shreddedmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:24 AM
> To: NANOG
> Subject: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?
>
> Either they don't exist, or my Google-fu is particularly bad this morning.
>
> I'm trying to get my toes wet with IPv6.  I've established an internal
> 6to4/4to6 tunnel.  I'd also like to have a testbed for access to public v6
> sites.  I'm also trying to find some clue at my upstreams, but figured I'd
> ask here as well.  Are there any 4to6 gateway available?  I have assigned
> v6
> space.
>
> Thanks,
>


NANOG 47 announcements

2009-07-13 Thread David Meyer
 
Folks, 
 
A few announcements: 
 
(i).Thank everyone again for attending NANOG 46. The
NANOG 46 survey is open for one more week. If you
haven't taken the survey yet, please see 
 
 
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=MHjaY6hu6bwNs_2bpmca_2fc_2fQ_3d_3d 
 
(ii).   Exciting news about NANOG 47 in Dearborn. The
NANOG PC has been working with ARIN and the
results are an exciting CFP. Please see   
 
 http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/callforpresent.php 
 
 
(iii).  Registration is open for NANOG 47. Please see
 
 https://nanog.merit.edu/registration.  
 
(iv).   The NANOG 47 hotel link is up. Please see
 
 http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/hotel.php 
 
(v).NANOG 47 Meeting sponsorships are now being
accepted (as always, sponsorship is critical to
NANOG's success). Please see   
 
 http://nanog.org/sponsors. 
 

We're looking forward to seeing you all in in Dearborn. 
 
Dave 
 
(for the NANOG PC) 
 



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RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

2009-07-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah, just don't ask a certain female sales person there for more than a
few quotes without buying...

I was utterly embarrassed while dealing with NHR - never been told off
by a commissioned sales person before.  Requested a series of quotes on
a Cisco GSR and made it very clear we already had a preferred supplier,
but that I would give NHR a chance in the quotes.  Their pricing was off
a bit and the job went to a competitor - she freaked out on me.  I have
never dealt with them since.   It was the most immature dealing with a
company I have ever encountered, and this goes back several years now -
and I'm still pissed.

When I took this to their management team I was promised a phone call
from their CEO and never got it.  Since I talked to a senior management
person and asked to removed from their internal lists - had *many* of
their sales people continue to call and pester me.  They finally got
that part right and have not heard from anyone since (nor do I EVER wish
to).

Paul



-Original Message-
From: Ballard, Eric [mailto:eric.ball...@suddenlink.com]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:39 PM
To: Chad Burnham; Adam Rothschild; Duane Waddle
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

All,

I would like to second the vote for NHR(Network Hardware).  I have
purchased from Joe Zender there for years and the support, price,
warranty, and quality has been outstanding.  I placed his contact info
below, because it is truly a rare thing when I can say he is a great
sales person.

Thanks
Eric


Joe Zender
Network Hardware Resale
Phone: 805-690-3723
Fax: 805-690-1835
AIM - zenderNHR
Yahoo! - nhr_joezender
jzen...@networkhardware.com
www.networkhardware.com



-Original Message-
From: Chad Burnham [mailto:cburn...@du.edu]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 AM
To: Adam Rothschild; Duane Waddle
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

HI,

We have been very happy with Champion and NHR for such equipment:

http://www.championone.net/
&
http://www.networkhardware.com/

Stellar pricing and support.

Chad


Chad D Burnham
Telecommunications Network Planner
University Technology Services - Network Services
University of Denver
2100 S. High St. #112
Denver, CO 80210 USA
Desk Phone: 303-871-4441
Mobile Phone: 303-520-5657
FAX: 303-871-2298




-Original Message-
From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:asr+na...@latency.net]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:26 PM
To: Duane Waddle
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: Re: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

On 2009-07-10-14:21:49, Duane Waddle  wrote:
> I am searching for opinions on OEMs of X2 form factor 10G LAN PHY
> optics.  We've found that most router/switch vendors  mark these
> particular items up significantly just to provide their own
> sticker/EEPROM ID.  As such, we'd prefer if we can to procure from the
> OEM (or their reseller).  Is this a situation where any company who's
> a signatory to the MSA produces suitable modules, or are there
> particular OEMs to prefer (or avoid)?
>
> If it matters, the prime platform we're looking to plug optics into is
> the WS-X6708-10G module for a 6500/7600.

I'd suggest looking at FluxLight (www.fluxlightinc.com) for this.
Their sales and support process is nothing short of stellar, and
pricing is a fair medium between "paying too much for vendor optics"
and "fly-by-night eBay imports".

To wit, all of their products Just Worked without ever needing Cisco's
infamous 'service unsupported-transceiver' vendor lock override.

-a










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Re: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Peter Dambier
Hello Rick,

try

traceroute to 192.88.99.1 (192.88.99.1), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  yttrium.anul.nsa (7.19.30.39)  3 ms  1 ms  1 ms
 2  217.0.116.228 (217.0.116.228)  47 ms  46 ms *
 3  217.0.78.50 (217.0.78.50)  58 ms  46 ms  45 ms
 4  217.239.40.177 (217.239.40.177)  48 ms  51 ms  49 ms
 5  tenge2-2.cr3.fra3.content-core.net (193.159.227.138)  47 ms  48 ms  48 ms
 6  Tenge2-4-42.cr2.FRA3.content-core.net (212.123.123.137)  49 ms *  70 ms

So my gateway is

inetnum:212.123.122.0 - 212.123.123.255
netname:IP-PARTNER
descr:  IP Exchange GmbH
descr:  Am Tower 5
descr:  90475 Nuernberg
remarks:INFRA-AW
country:DE

I guess your traceroute goes somewhere else.

Kind regards
Peter

Rick Ernst wrote:
> Either they don't exist, or my Google-fu is particularly bad this morning.
> 
> I'm trying to get my toes wet with IPv6.  I've established an internal
> 6to4/4to6 tunnel.  I'd also like to have a testbed for access to public v6
> sites.  I'm also trying to find some clue at my upstreams, but figured I'd
> ask here as well.  Are there any 4to6 gateway available?  I have assigned v6
> space.
> 
> Thanks,

-- 
Peter and Karin Dambier
Cesidian Root - Radice Cesidiana
Rimbacher Strasse 16
D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher
+49(6209)795-816 (Telekom)
+49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de)
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RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

2009-07-13 Thread Ballard, Eric
All,

I would like to second the vote for NHR(Network Hardware).  I have purchased 
from Joe Zender there for years and the support, price, warranty, and quality 
has been outstanding.  I placed his contact info below, because it is truly a 
rare thing when I can say he is a great sales person.  

Thanks
Eric


Joe Zender
Network Hardware Resale
Phone: 805-690-3723
Fax: 805-690-1835
AIM - zenderNHR
Yahoo! - nhr_joezender
jzen...@networkhardware.com
www.networkhardware.com



-Original Message-
From: Chad Burnham [mailto:cburn...@du.edu] 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 AM
To: Adam Rothschild; Duane Waddle
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

HI,

We have been very happy with Champion and NHR for such equipment:

http://www.championone.net/
&
http://www.networkhardware.com/

Stellar pricing and support.

Chad


Chad D Burnham
Telecommunications Network Planner
University Technology Services - Network Services
University of Denver 
2100 S. High St. #112
Denver, CO 80210 USA
Desk Phone: 303-871-4441
Mobile Phone: 303-520-5657
FAX: 303-871-2298




-Original Message-
From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:asr+na...@latency.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:26 PM
To: Duane Waddle
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: Re: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

On 2009-07-10-14:21:49, Duane Waddle  wrote:
> I am searching for opinions on OEMs of X2 form factor 10G LAN PHY
> optics.  We've found that most router/switch vendors  mark these
> particular items up significantly just to provide their own
> sticker/EEPROM ID.  As such, we'd prefer if we can to procure from the
> OEM (or their reseller).  Is this a situation where any company who's
> a signatory to the MSA produces suitable modules, or are there
> particular OEMs to prefer (or avoid)?
> 
> If it matters, the prime platform we're looking to plug optics into is
> the WS-X6708-10G module for a 6500/7600.

I'd suggest looking at FluxLight (www.fluxlightinc.com) for this.
Their sales and support process is nothing short of stellar, and
pricing is a fair medium between "paying too much for vendor optics"
and "fly-by-night eBay imports".

To wit, all of their products Just Worked without ever needing Cisco's
infamous 'service unsupported-transceiver' vendor lock override.

-a






RE: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Chad Burnham
Rick,

I use this one:

http://www.tunnelbroker.net/

Free!

Chad

-Original Message-
From: Rick Ernst [mailto:na...@shreddedmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:24 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

Either they don't exist, or my Google-fu is particularly bad this morning.

I'm trying to get my toes wet with IPv6.  I've established an internal
6to4/4to6 tunnel.  I'd also like to have a testbed for access to public v6
sites.  I'm also trying to find some clue at my upstreams, but figured I'd
ask here as well.  Are there any 4to6 gateway available?  I have assigned v6
space.

Thanks,


smime.p7s
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Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Rick Ernst
Either they don't exist, or my Google-fu is particularly bad this morning.

I'm trying to get my toes wet with IPv6.  I've established an internal
6to4/4to6 tunnel.  I'd also like to have a testbed for access to public v6
sites.  I'm also trying to find some clue at my upstreams, but figured I'd
ask here as well.  Are there any 4to6 gateway available?  I have assigned v6
space.

Thanks,


RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

2009-07-13 Thread Ric Moseley
Try http://www.advantageoptics.com/.

Ric.
Softlayer. 
www.softlayer.com. 

-Original Message-
From: Chad Burnham [mailto:cburn...@du.edu] 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 AM
To: Adam Rothschild; Duane Waddle
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

HI,

We have been very happy with Champion and NHR for such equipment:

http://www.championone.net/
&
http://www.networkhardware.com/

Stellar pricing and support.

Chad


Chad D Burnham
Telecommunications Network Planner
University Technology Services - Network Services University of Denver
2100 S. High St. #112 Denver, CO 80210 USA Desk Phone: 303-871-4441
Mobile Phone: 303-520-5657
FAX: 303-871-2298




-Original Message-
From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:asr+na...@latency.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:26 PM
To: Duane Waddle
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: Re: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

On 2009-07-10-14:21:49, Duane Waddle  wrote:
> I am searching for opinions on OEMs of X2 form factor 10G LAN PHY
> optics.  We've found that most router/switch vendors  mark these
> particular items up significantly just to provide their own
> sticker/EEPROM ID.  As such, we'd prefer if we can to procure from the
> OEM (or their reseller).  Is this a situation where any company who's
> a signatory to the MSA produces suitable modules, or are there
> particular OEMs to prefer (or avoid)?
> 
> If it matters, the prime platform we're looking to plug optics into is
> the WS-X6708-10G module for a 6500/7600.

I'd suggest looking at FluxLight (www.fluxlightinc.com) for this.
Their sales and support process is nothing short of stellar, and
pricing is a fair medium between "paying too much for vendor optics"
and "fly-by-night eBay imports".

To wit, all of their products Just Worked without ever needing Cisco's
infamous 'service unsupported-transceiver' vendor lock override.

-a



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RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

2009-07-13 Thread Chad Burnham
HI,

We have been very happy with Champion and NHR for such equipment:

http://www.championone.net/
&
http://www.networkhardware.com/

Stellar pricing and support.

Chad


Chad D Burnham
Telecommunications Network Planner
University Technology Services - Network Services
University of Denver 
2100 S. High St. #112
Denver, CO 80210 USA
Desk Phone: 303-871-4441
Mobile Phone: 303-520-5657
FAX: 303-871-2298




-Original Message-
From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:asr+na...@latency.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:26 PM
To: Duane Waddle
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: Re: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

On 2009-07-10-14:21:49, Duane Waddle  wrote:
> I am searching for opinions on OEMs of X2 form factor 10G LAN PHY
> optics.  We've found that most router/switch vendors  mark these
> particular items up significantly just to provide their own
> sticker/EEPROM ID.  As such, we'd prefer if we can to procure from the
> OEM (or their reseller).  Is this a situation where any company who's
> a signatory to the MSA produces suitable modules, or are there
> particular OEMs to prefer (or avoid)?
> 
> If it matters, the prime platform we're looking to plug optics into is
> the WS-X6708-10G module for a 6500/7600.

I'd suggest looking at FluxLight (www.fluxlightinc.com) for this.
Their sales and support process is nothing short of stellar, and
pricing is a fair medium between "paying too much for vendor optics"
and "fly-by-night eBay imports".

To wit, all of their products Just Worked without ever needing Cisco's
infamous 'service unsupported-transceiver' vendor lock override.

-a



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Re: AT&T and having two BGP peers

2009-07-13 Thread Stephen Kratzer
Use a /30 across the circuit and do multihop BGP using other IPs.

On Friday 10 July 2009 13:48:15 Jay Nakamura wrote:
> We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from AT&T but they insist that
> they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side.  The WAN circuit can
> only have /30 they say.  Has anyone been able to successfully talk
> them in to bending their rule?  If so, how?
>
> I know this should have been negotiated before signing a contract but
> I was unfortunately not in the loop... :(
>
> It seems like a ridiculous bureaucratic restriction.