Re: cross connect reliability

2009-09-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
Luke S Crawford wrote:
 Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net writes:
 You've never seen a single port go bad on a switch? I can't even count
 the number of times I've seen that happen. Not that I'm not suggesting 
 the OP wasn't the victim of a human error like unplugging the wrong port 
 and they just lied to him, that happens even more.
 
 I know it happens;  it's happened to me, and I have probably touched fewer
 switches than you.  Still, from what I can understand, it can be
 prevented/minimized by the use of a grounded port.
 
 
 from: 
 http://support.3com.com/documents/switches/baseline/3Com-Switch-Family_Safety-Reg-Info.pdf
 
 
 CAUTION: If you want to install the Switch using a Category 5E or
 Category 6 cable, 3Com recommends that you briefly connect the cable
 to a grounded port before you connect to the network equipment. If you
 do not, the cable’s electrostatic discharge (ESD) may damage the Switch's
 port.
 
 You can create a grounded port by connecting all wires at one end of a
 UTP cable to an earth ground point, and the other end to a female RJ-45
 connector located, for example, on a Switch rack or patch panel. The
 RJ-45 connector is now a grounded port.
 


HP chassis switches ship with a grounding jack accessory you attach to
the DB9 port (I assume it ties all RJ-45 pins to shied/ground)
explicitly for this purpose. The instructions say to always plug a cable
into the grounding device before connecting to a switch port.

~Seth



Re: Multi-homed implementation and BGP convergence time

2009-09-21 Thread Andy Davidson


On 11 Sep 2009, at 21:54, andrew.clayba...@securian.com wrote:

Hello - my company currently has two connections with a single tier  
1 ISP. We are using the AS from our ISP at this time.  In the next  
month we will be implementing a third connection with a second tier  
1 ISP, so we will now be using our own AS number on all three routers.


Does this mean that right now, you BGP peer with your ISP on a private  
ASN which they have given you ?


I also assume that you have your own PI, and that you are not  
deaggregating some of your providers' addressing 


My question is when we implement the new connection and update our  
existing connections to use are own AS number, how much downtime  
will there be?  So far the second ISP has only said that it could be  
hours for BGP to fully converge.  We are looking for more detail  
about how long the outage will be and how widespread.


It will be hours if you don't plan the work in advance, but if you  
partner with someone who rolls this stuff out all of the time to plan  
and execute the work, then there will be a short amount of downtime.


If your kit supports local-as, then I would roll this out in a few  
phases.


 - Migrate to your new ASN for ibgp, use local-as to announce via the  
old asn on your ebgp session with ISP1.  This is the bit where the  
service disruption will be.  By keeping the scope of this window  
small, you increase the chances of this disruptive maintenance working  
fine.

 - Turn up isp2.  Test, thoroughly.
 - Migrate isp1 from the private asn to your new public asn.  All  
traffic should pass through isp2, so disruption should be limited.  
Test, thoroughly.


Will it be relatively short to our customers that are on one of the  
ISPs we are directly connected to?  Is downtime less for customers  
on other tier 1 ISPs versus tier 2, etc. ISPs?


Downtime is less the more competent your ISP. :-)  Tierness is not a  
measure of this.


Sorry for the late reply, if this still needs to be rolled out, then  
we can help.




Best wishes
Andy



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subnet aggregation script

2009-09-21 Thread Ric Moseley
Does anyone know of a tool/script that can aggregate subnets feed to it
via command line?  Meaning if I give it multiple /30s (or any size
subnet) it will scrunch them together. 

 

Example: 

 

#aggregate_subnets.script 192.168.0.0/30 192.168.0.4/30 10.0.0.16/29
10.0.0.24/29

#192.168.0.0/29 10.0.0.16/28

 

Thanks. 

 

Ric Moseley

VP of Engineering

rmose...@softlayer.com

214-442-0555 direct

972-989-7813 cell

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Re: subnet aggregation script

2009-09-21 Thread John Peach
netmask:


netmask 192.168.0.0/30 192.168.0.4/30 10.0.0.16/29
  10.0.0.16/29
192.168.0.0/29

Certainly available in the ubuntu repositories.




On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:00:16 -0500
Ric Moseley rmose...@softlayer.com wrote:

 Does anyone know of a tool/script that can aggregate subnets feed to
 it via command line?  Meaning if I give it multiple /30s (or any size
 subnet) it will scrunch them together. 
 
  
 
 Example: 
 
  
 
 #aggregate_subnets.script 192.168.0.0/30 192.168.0.4/30 10.0.0.16/29
 10.0.0.24/29
 
 #192.168.0.0/29 10.0.0.16/28
 
  
 
 Thanks. 
 
  
 
 Ric Moseley
 
 VP of Engineering
 
 rmose...@softlayer.com
 
 214-442-0555 direct
 
 972-989-7813 cell
 
 214-442-0600 office
 
 866-398-7638 toll-free
 
 214-442-0601 fax
 
  
 
  
 
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Google Pagerank and Class-C Addresses

2009-09-21 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
Hello Nanog,

I'm looking into a weird request which more and more customers have.
They want different Class C addresses, by which they mean IPs in
different /24 subnets.

The apparent reason for this is that Google will rank links from
different /24 higher then links from the same /24. So it's a SEO
thingy.

I googled a bit and found pages after pages of FUD and such great
things as the Class C Checker:  This free Class C Checker tool
allows you to check if some sites are hosted on the same Class C IP
Range.

My question is: Is there any proof that Google does differentiate
between /24s, or even better is there any proof that this isn't the
case? I will not give a customer space from different address blocks
just because he read it in a SEO magazine.

Perhaps someone from Google itself can answer this question?

Also how do you handle such requests? I expect I'm not the only one
who gets them.

Regards,

Sebastian

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Cisco 7600 vs ASR 9000

2009-09-21 Thread Nick Colton
I work for a small CLEC, we have been doing FTTP for 5 years now but are
getting ready to update our core network and introduce IPTV services.  Cisco
has been recommending the Cisco 7600 as our core router.  My concern is that
cisco told us that in the event of an RSP failover the 7600 could take up to
30 seconds to begin routing packets again, this seems wrong to me since my
old Extreme Networks BD 6808 can do failovers and rebuild route tables in
under 5 seconds but??  More recently I have been reading up on the ASR 9000
however and it appears that it would be better sized for our company than
the 7600.  A few questions I have for the group.
1.  Has anyone used the ASR 9000 in place of a Cisco 7600?

2.  Is the ASR 9000 Carrier ready?  Meaning 5x9's of availability, few
component failures, solid software...etc

3.  Has anyone had issues where it took the 7600 30 seconds to start routing
again after an RSP failover?

Thanks,

Nick


Re: subnet aggregation script

2009-09-21 Thread Joe Abley


On 2009-09-21, at 12:00, Ric Moseley wrote:

Does anyone know of a tool/script that can aggregate subnets feed to  
it

via command line?  Meaning if I give it multiple /30s (or any size
subnet) it will scrunch them together.


I wrote this years ago and we used it in 6461 for various things.

ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/aggregate/aggregate-1.6.tar.gz


Example:

#aggregate_subnets.script 192.168.0.0/30 192.168.0.4/30 10.0.0.16/29
10.0.0.24/29

#192.168.0.0/29 10.0.0.16/28


[octopus:~]% cat input-file
192.168.0.0/30
192.168.0.4/30
10.0.0.16/29
10.0.0.24/29
[octopus:~]%
[octopus:~]% aggregate input-file output-file
aggregate: maximum prefix length permitted will be 32
[octopus:~]% cat output-file
10.0.0.16/28
192.168.0.0/29
[octopus:~]%

It's quite bad at dealing with really long lists, but it's ok for  
small applications. There's a manual page, and options, and stuff. You  
can make it show its working, if you're worried about whether it is  
sane.


[octopus:~]% aggregate -v input-file
aggregate: maximum prefix length permitted will be 32
[0] + 10.0.0.16/28
[0] + 192.168.0.0/29
[1] - 192.168.0.0/30
[2] - 192.168.0.4/30
[octopus:~]%

I forget exactly what the numbers in the brackets mean, but from  
memory 0 means it's a generated prefix and anything else refers to a  
line number in the input stream. No doubt the source would provide  
illumination.


I don't remember why I thought it was a good idea to spit out the  
maximum prefix length warning to stderr every time.



Joe



Re: NEW ON THE BLOCK

2009-09-21 Thread bmanning
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RE: Google Pagerank and Class-C Addresses

2009-09-21 Thread Ray Burkholder
 
  The apparent reason for this is that Google will rank links from
  different /24 higher then links from the same /24. So it's a SEO
  thingy.
 

Just in case anyone cares, from personal experience, I can see that Google's
priority is indeed 'rank by content'.  Everything else is fluff.  I've
chosen a key phrase or two, and incorporated them multiple times into a blog
entry.  Looking at Google a couple of days later for those key words, and I
can get a top three ranking quite easily.

Ray


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Re: Google Pagerank and Class-C Addresses

2009-09-21 Thread Scott Howard
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ray Burkholder r...@oneunified.net wrote:

 Just in case anyone cares, from personal experience, I can see that
 Google's
 priority is indeed 'rank by content'.  Everything else is fluff.


This is not true.  It's been well documented that PageRank uses a number of
metrics, probably the most important of them (in terms of ranking) being the
number of links to a page or site (and I believe, the PageRank of the
pages/websites those links come from).

One of my websites has consistently been in the top 10 or at worst top 20
results when searching for the word megapixel despite the word only
appearing on the resulting page about 4 times - if it was simply content
based there's no way that site would be ranked so highly.

  Scott.


Re: Google Pagerank and Class-C Addresses

2009-09-21 Thread Ingo Flaschberger

Hey,

I should tell my customers that the cross sum of the domains ip
also count to the pagerank, and the ip 255.255.255.255 is the best of all.

bye,
ingo flaschberger



Re: Google Pagerank and Class-C Addresses

2009-09-21 Thread Leslie



Sebastian Wiesinger wrote:

Hello Nanog,

I'm looking into a weird request which more and more customers have.
They want different Class C addresses, by which they mean IPs in
different /24 subnets.

The apparent reason for this is that Google will rank links from
different /24 higher then links from the same /24. So it's a SEO
thingy.



I've found that a lot of spammers enjoy having diverse ip's from which 
to mail/proxy requests.  This may just be a case of ignorance/rumors on 
your customers part, but I might suspect some of them of being spammers...


Leslie





Re: subnet aggregation script

2009-09-21 Thread Jeff Walter

Ric Moseley wrote:

Does anyone know of a tool/script that can aggregate subnets feed to it
via command line?  Meaning if I give it multiple /30s (or any size
subnet) it will scrunch them together. 


Here is a Perl script to do just that.  My normal one reads from STDIN.

#!/usr/bin/perl

use Net::CIDR::Lite;

my $cidr = Net::CIDR::Lite-new ();

foreach (@ARGV) {
if (/^[0-9a-f\.:]+(\/\d+)?$/) {
$cidr-add_any ($_);
}
}

print (join (\n, $cidr-list ()));



Re: Google Pagerank and Class-C Addresses

2009-09-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
 We used to have a lot of people buying IP's in bulk for SEO. They
 would all cancel within one or two months citing that they couldn't
 afford it or the project failed, etc. Guess they realized that the
 whole thing is a myth.

.. or, which is more likely given my brief exposure to this crap, the
search engines cottoned on and changed the metrics again.




adrian




Re: Google Pagerank and Class-C Addresses

2009-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Jeffrey Lyon
jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net wrote:
 We used to have a lot of people buying IP's in bulk for SEO. They
 would all cancel within one or two months citing that they couldn't
 afford it or the project failed, etc. Guess they realized that the
 whole thing is a myth.

Or they burned through all those IPs, google penalized domains on
those IPs for obvious SEO gaming and they've now gone off to poison
some other IP space

--srs