RE: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP
pretty quick. I think what we do using about 10 people in a Cisco environment would be closer to 20 in an HP and Juniper environment, so those additional salaries and benefits need to be a factor. I hear you on the HP stuff, but are you saying that Juniper equipment also shows a higher failure rate? Or, are you saying they require a higher staffing rate for different reasons? Just wondering, since Juniper is trumpeting running the stock exchange and all. ~JasonG
Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP
Poor choice of words, Juniper does fine. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.com wrote: pretty quick. I think what we do using about 10 people in a Cisco environment would be closer to 20 in an HP and Juniper environment, so those additional salaries and benefits need to be a factor. I hear you on the HP stuff, but are you saying that Juniper equipment also shows a higher failure rate? Or, are you saying they require a higher staffing rate for different reasons? Just wondering, since Juniper is trumpeting running the stock exchange and all. ~JasonG -- Ray Soucy Epic Communications Specialist Phone: +1 (207) 561-3526 Networkmaine, a Unit of the University of Maine System http://www.networkmaine.net/
Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident
This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's. Thanks to all for the advise. Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's /8's. From: Eric Williams/Connectria To: nanog@nanog.org Date: 06/24/2010 02:37 PM Subject: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident ATT is currently advertising my address space to the internet accidentally via BGP which they should not be. Since they are advertising my address space on accident, we are dead in the water. Does anybody out there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have them stop advertising my /22 ASAP
Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident
I wonder how much of the de-aggregation in the routing table is attributable to issues like this? On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Eric Williams ewilli...@connectria.com wrote: This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's. Thanks to all for the advise. Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's /8's. From: Eric Williams/Connectria To: nanog@nanog.org Date: 06/24/2010 02:37 PM Subject: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident ATT is currently advertising my address space to the internet accidentally via BGP which they should not be. Since they are advertising my address space on accident, we are dead in the water. Does anybody out there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have them stop advertising my /22 ASAP
RE: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident
Have you found a contact at ATT to get this stopped? --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: Eric Williams [mailto:ewilli...@connectria.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:56 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's. Thanks to all for the advise. Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's /8's. From: Eric Williams/Connectria To: nanog@nanog.org Date: 06/24/2010 02:37 PM Subject: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident ATT is currently advertising my address space to the internet accidentally via BGP which they should not be. Since they are advertising my address space on accident, we are dead in the water. Does anybody out there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have them stop advertising my /22 ASAP
Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Have you found a contact at ATT to get this stopped? I'm fairly certain JayB at least reads nanog... the OP didn't mention if this was 7018, 7132 or the ATT_ENS AS with the route though :( -Original Message- From: Eric Williams [mailto:ewilli...@connectria.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:56 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's. Thanks to all for the advise. Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's /8's. From: Eric Williams/Connectria To: nanog@nanog.org Date: 06/24/2010 02:37 PM Subject: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident ATT is currently advertising my address space to the internet accidentally via BGP which they should not be. Since they are advertising my address space on accident, we are dead in the water. Does anybody out there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have them stop advertising my /22 ASAP
Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident
Looks like the prefix in question is 208.91.48.0/22 and it was briefly announced by 7018 yesterday, but that announcement seems to be gone now. I see 11734 is announcing 208.91.48.0/22 + 208.91.48.0/24 now, but not 208.91.49.0/24 - 208.91.51.0/24. On 06/25/2010 10:17 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Have you found a contact at ATT to get this stopped? I'm fairly certain JayB at least reads nanog... the OP didn't mention if this was 7018, 7132 or the ATT_ENS AS with the route though :( -Original Message- From: Eric Williams [mailto:ewilli...@connectria.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:56 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's. Thanks to all for the advise. Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's /8's. From: Eric Williams/Connectria To: nanog@nanog.org Date: 06/24/2010 02:37 PM Subject: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident ATT is currently advertising my address space to the internet accidentally via BGP which they should not be. Since they are advertising my address space on accident, we are dead in the water. Does anybody out there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have them stop advertising my /22 ASAP
Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 09:12:57AM -0400, Jason Gurtz wrote: pretty quick. I think what we do using about 10 people in a Cisco environment would be closer to 20 in an HP and Juniper environment, so those additional salaries and benefits need to be a factor. How many switches/users are we talking about that you need 10-20 people to manage? I hear you on the HP stuff, but are you saying that Juniper equipment also shows a higher failure rate? Or, are you saying they require a higher staffing rate for different reasons? Just wondering, since Juniper is trumpeting running the stock exchange and all. I can vouch for the fact that the batch of Juniper EX-PWR-930-AC modular power supplies shipped around June/July last summer had some quality issues. We've replaced about 10 so far (out of about 140) in the year we've had them. Presumably they've fixed this on new batches. It's a good thing we sprang for the redundant power supply modules in those switches. Compare this to the Nortel (now Avaya) BayStack 55xx line where we've had approximately 0 built-in power supply and maybe 2-3 unit failures for other reasons in the last 3 years.
ARIN's RESTful Whois Directory Service Available 26 June
Apologies for the duplicate email but want to keep you informed about changes occurring at ARIN. This particular upgrade may be of interest to those who are not subscribed to arin-announce. - Forwarded message from Member Services i...@arin.net - From: Member Services i...@arin.net Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:00:42 -0400 To: arin-annou...@arin.net arin-annou...@arin.net Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN's RESTful Whois Directory Service Available 26 June ARIN is deploying an improved Whois service called Whois-RWS on 26 June 2010. Included in the deployment are the following services that provide the general public with access to ARIN's registration data. * a RESTful Web Service (RWS) * a NICNAME/WHOIS port 43 service * a user-friendly web site (http://whois.arin.net) When using Whois-RWS you will notice some differences in behavior for certain queries and corresponding result sets on the NICNAME/WHOIS TCP port 43 service. These minor differences are documented at: https://www.arin.net/resources/whoisrws/whois_diff.html ARIN's Directory Service for registration data has used the NICNAME/WHOIS protocol since its inception. The limitations of the NICNAME/WHOIS protocol are well known and documented in RFC3912. Whois-RWS was created as an alternative to the ARIN Whois and will provide much richer functionality and capability to the community. Whois-RWS can easily be integrated into command line scripts, or it can be used with a web browser, which makes it applicable for programmatic consumption and accessible for interactive use. ARIN will continue to maintain services for the NICNAME/WHOIS protocol on TCP/43. This is achieved by using a proxy service to translate traditional ARIN Whois queries into Whois-RWS queries. However, ARIN recommends use of the RESTful Web Service. Those who choose to use the Whois-RWS Proxy will find it has many features unavailable over the existing Whois service, including: * Support for new query types such as CIDR queries * Better feedback for ambiguous queries * More finely scoped record type queries * Options for NICNAME/WHOIS clients that re-interpret traditional parameters used by ARIN's service. * RESTful URL references, useful for embedding into documents and e-mail * Better grouping of record types and delineation of results Another major benefit is that data from ARIN's registration database is distributed to the Whois-RWS servers many times throughout the day, versus the once-a-day update of ARIN's previous Whois service. Changes will be reflected more quickly through Whois-RWS, so query results will be more current than the previous Whois service. ARIN continues to welcome community participation on the Whois-RWS mailing list, and we invite you to subscribe and provide feedback to: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-whoisrws Regards, Mark Kosters Chief Technical Officer American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) - End forwarded message -
Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident
just fyi, identifying the prefix in question and the origin AS will likely result in a lot more potentially useful eyeballs looking at including those that can take action. joel On 2010-06-24 12:37, Eric Williams wrote: ATT is currently advertising my address space to the internet accidentally via BGP which they should not be. Since they are advertising my address space on accident, we are dead in the water. Does anybody out there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have them stop advertising my /22 ASAP
Weekly Routing Table Report
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith p...@cisco.com. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 26 Jun, 2010 Report Website: http://thyme.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary BGP routing table entries examined: 323205 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 149101 Deaggregation factor: 2.17 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 158363 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 34231 Prefixes per ASN: 9.44 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 29720 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 14411 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4511 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:108 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 3.6 Max AS path length visible: 24 Max AS path prepend of ASN (41664) 21 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 295 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 112 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs:642 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 757 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table:0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space:159 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2251743840 Equivalent to 134 /8s, 54 /16s and 226 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 60.8 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 65.5 Percentage of available address space allocated: 92.8 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 83.4 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 154204 APNIC Region Analysis Summary - Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes:78033 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 26885 APNIC Deaggregation factor:2.90 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 74858 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:33140 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4081 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 18.34 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1117 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:639 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:3.6 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 15 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 525628704 Equivalent to 31 /8s, 84 /16s and 117 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 78.3 APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079 55296-56319, 131072-132095 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 43/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:133710 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:69226 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 1.93 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 106681 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 41819 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:13744 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 7.76 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:5271 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:1349 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 3.4 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 22 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 729671968 Equivalent to 43 /8s, 125 /16s and 233 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address
BGP Update Report
BGP Update Report Interval: 17-Jun-10 -to- 24-Jun-10 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS24400 64871 4.5%5405.9 -- CMNET-V4SHANGHAI-AS-AP Shanghai Mobile Communications Co.,Ltd. 2 - AS980862064 4.4% 827.5 -- CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication Co.Ltd. 3 - AS14420 54652 3.8% 117.3 -- CORPORACION NACIONAL DE TELECOMUNICACIONES CNT S.A. 4 - AS18910 29562 2.1%1847.6 -- BIG-SANDY-BROADBAND-INC - Big Sandy Broadband Inc 5 - AS30890 26695 1.9% 61.4 -- EVOLVA Evolva Telecom s.r.l. 6 - AS35805 18262 1.3% 28.8 -- SILKNET-AS SILKNET AS 7 - AS580015672 1.1% 69.7 -- DNIC-ASBLK-05800-06055 - DoD Network Information Center 8 - AS12880 13091 0.9% 163.6 -- DCI-AS DCI Autonomous System 9 - AS32528 11954 0.8%3984.7 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 10 - AS27065 10562 0.7% 87.3 -- DNIC-ASBLK-27032-27159 - DoD Network Information Center 11 - AS10474 10319 0.7%2063.8 -- NETACTIVE 12 - AS478839945 0.7% 153.0 -- KKTCELL-AS KIBRIS MOBILE TELEKOMUNIKASYON LTD. 13 - AS9829 9794 0.7% 51.8 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 14 - AS359319752 0.7%3250.7 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO HOLDINGS INC 15 - AS279689101 0.6% 97.9 -- CORPORACION NACIONAL DE TELECOMUNICACIONES CNT S.A. 16 - AS454649020 0.6% 209.8 -- NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 17 - AS277578756 0.6% 76.1 -- CORPORACION NACIONAL DE TELECOMUNICACIONES CNT S.A. 18 - AS8452 8138 0.6% 7.8 -- TEDATA TEDATA 19 - AS156567846 0.6% 170.6 -- ANET Anet Iletisim A.S. 20 - AS145227623 0.5% 30.5 -- Satnet TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS24400 64871 4.5%5405.9 -- CMNET-V4SHANGHAI-AS-AP Shanghai Mobile Communications Co.,Ltd. 2 - AS32528 11954 0.8%3984.7 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 3 - AS359319752 0.7%3250.7 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO HOLDINGS INC 4 - AS278732315 0.2%2315.0 -- Compañia Goly, S.A. 5 - AS10474 10319 0.7%2063.8 -- NETACTIVE 6 - AS18910 29562 2.1%1847.6 -- BIG-SANDY-BROADBAND-INC - Big Sandy Broadband Inc 7 - AS303722775 0.2%1387.5 -- SBS-NEWARK-CA - SIEMENS BUSINESS SERVICES 8 - AS980862064 4.4% 827.5 -- CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication Co.Ltd. 9 - AS55482 783 0.1% 783.0 -- DIGITAL-WAVE-MY Level 12 Menara Sunway, Jalan Lagoon Timur, 10 - AS11613 683 0.1% 683.0 -- U-SAVE - U-Save Auto Rental of America, Inc. 11 - AS28052 635 0.0% 635.0 -- Arte Radiotelevisivo Argentino 12 - AS165521384 0.1% 461.3 -- TIGGEE - Tiggee LLC 13 - AS30402 796 0.1% 398.0 -- HARRIS - Harris Interactive Inc. 14 - AS104452358 0.2% 336.9 -- HTG - Huntleigh Telcom 15 - AS3 313 0.0% 120.0 -- SUEZ-AS Elektrownia Polaniec SA Grupa GDF SUEZ Energia Polska 16 - AS39780 303 0.0% 303.0 -- TECNOCOM-NET AS for Tecnocom TE 17 - AS20293 595 0.0% 297.5 -- WU - WESTERN UNION COMPANY 18 - AS45647 587 0.0% 293.5 -- LBCBANK-AS-AP LBC Development Bank 19 - AS418641641 0.1% 273.5 -- MIBA-AS SC MIBA TELECOM 2002 SRL 20 - AS38596 265 0.0% 265.0 -- INNODATA-MDE-AS-PH Innodata-ISOGEN, Inc TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 111.10.2.0/24 12326 0.8% AS9808 -- CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication Co.Ltd. 2 - 111.10.3.0/24 12324 0.8% AS9808 -- CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication Co.Ltd. 3 - 111.10.4.0/24 12316 0.8% AS9808 -- CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication Co.Ltd. 4 - 111.10.0.0/24 12316 0.8% AS9808 -- CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication Co.Ltd. 5 - 111.10.1.0/24 12315 0.8% AS9808 -- CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication Co.Ltd. 6 - 117.131.0.0/1710820 0.7% AS24400 -- CMNET-V4SHANGHAI-AS-AP Shanghai Mobile Communications Co.,Ltd. 7 - 120.204.0.0/1610674 0.7% AS24400 -- CMNET-V4SHANGHAI-AS-AP Shanghai Mobile Communications Co.,Ltd. 8 - 196.2.16.0/24 10277 0.7% AS10474 -- NETACTIVE 9 - 221.181.64.0/187639 0.5% AS24400 -- CMNET-V4SHANGHAI-AS-AP Shanghai Mobile Communications Co.,Ltd. 10 - 117.136.8.0/24 7426 0.5% AS24400 -- CMNET-V4SHANGHAI-AS-AP Shanghai Mobile Communications Co.,Ltd. 11 - 117.135.128.0/18 7103 0.5% AS24400 -- CMNET-V4SHANGHAI-AS-AP Shanghai Mobile Communications Co.,Ltd. 12 - 117.135.0.0/17 7101 0.5% AS24400 -- CMNET-V4SHANGHAI-AS-AP Shanghai Mobile
The Cidr Report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 25 21:11:44 2010 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.
Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report.
Recent Table History
Date PrefixesCIDR Agg
18-06-10325632 201656
19-06-10326044 201847
20-06-10326275 201809
21-06-10326227 202163
22-06-10326263 201899
23-06-10326578 202351
24-06-10326853 202535
25-06-10326998 202479
AS Summary
34702 Number of ASes in routing system
14744 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix
4468 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS
AS4323 : TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc.
95976768 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s)
AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street
Aggregation Summary
The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only
when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as
to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also
proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes').
--- 25Jun10 ---
ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description
Table 327010 202472 12453838.1% All ASes
AS6389 3910 293 361792.5% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK -
BellSouth.net Inc.
AS4323 4468 1746 272260.9% TWTC - tw telecom holdings,
inc.
AS4766 1847 496 135173.1% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom
AS22773 1165 70 109594.0% ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC -
Cox Communications Inc.
AS4755 1313 245 106881.3% TATACOMM-AS TATA
Communications formerly VSNL
is Leading ISP
AS17488 1319 318 100175.9% HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over
Cable Internet
AS6478 1283 325 95874.7% ATT-INTERNET3 - ATT WorldNet
Services
AS18566 1059 121 93888.6% COVAD - Covad Communications
Co.
AS8151 1463 565 89861.4% Uninet S.A. de C.V.
AS19262 1130 274 85675.8% VZGNI-TRANSIT - Verizon
Internet Services Inc.
AS10620 1057 234 82377.9% Telmex Colombia S.A.
AS7545 1346 570 77657.7% TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Internet
Pty Ltd
AS8452 1162 408 75464.9% TEDATA TEDATA
AS5668 872 131 74185.0% AS-5668 - CenturyTel Internet
Holdings, Inc.
AS4808 829 234 59571.8% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP
network China169 Beijing
Province Network
AS4804 678 84 59487.6% MPX-AS Microplex PTY LTD
AS7303 746 179 56776.0% Telecom Argentina S.A.
AS35805 644 92 55285.7% SILKNET-AS SILKNET AS
AS7018 1506 959 54736.3% ATT-INTERNET4 - ATT WorldNet
Services
AS3356 1183 662 52144.0% LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications
AS4780 684 163 52176.2% SEEDNET Digital United Inc.
AS1785 1795 1292 50328.0% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec
Communications, Inc.
AS28573 1003 504 49949.8% NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A.
AS17676 572 81 49185.8% GIGAINFRA Softbank BB Corp.
AS9443 559 75 48486.6% INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus
Telecommunications
AS7552 613 130 48378.8% VIETEL-AS-AP Vietel
Corporation
AS7011 1135 654 48142.4% FRONTIER-AND-CITIZENS -
Frontier Communications of
America, Inc.
AS7738 477 30 44793.7% Telecomunicacoes da Bahia S.A.
AS24560 923 486 43747.3% AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti
Airtel Ltd., Telemedia
Services
AS36992 641 211 43067.1% ETISALAT-MISR
Total 37382116322575068.9% Top 30 total
Possible Bogus Routes
31.0.0.0/16 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC
