RE: Cogent announcing more specific prefixes?

2010-11-26 Thread Neil Robst
Yeah, I saw the same - saw an extra /22 announced...

-Original Message-
From: ML [mailto:m...@kenweb.org] 
Sent: 25 November 2010 22:26
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Cogent announcing more specific prefixes?

Anyone else get alerts from their BGP monitoring system (In my case 
Cyclops) saying Cogent briefly announced some more specific prefixes?

AS path as reported by Cyclops: 7575 46135 174 174

/20s broken into /23s
/23s became /24s

Also saw alerts for one to one (/23 announced has /23)

All alerts had a timestamp of: 2010-11-25 12:01:12 UTC





Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-26 Thread Sergey Voropaev
We are using cisco switches like as 3750, 6500 etc. So there is no
fairqueue.

On 26 November 2010 09:43, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote:

 On Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Sergey Voropaev wrote:

  We use a several connections to the financial providers. This connections
 are low bandwidth (up to 2 Mbps). This connections used by a number of
 front
 end services from a nubmer of departments and we could not differentiate
 its
 and configure QoS. But from time to time some one produce an extremely
  high
 traffic spikes (less than 30 seconds) without congestion avoidance
 mechanisms. Our task - is to find such applications and report to
 management
 and developers a problem. Also if we'll be aware about it we could
 configure
 QoS.


 What kind of queuing are you using?

 It sounds like configuring fair-queue on the interface (if your platform
 supports that, usually the ones with 2M interfaces do), it should help with
 the problem you're describing.

 If you have CPU to spare, configure fair-queue everywhere you can where you
 don't have a better QoS-configuration in place. It really solves a lot of
 the problems people are seeing with FIFO and mixed traffic.

 --
 Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se



Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-26 Thread Sergey Voropaev
There is no problem with *NIX from the point of view qualification. But
corporate politic use only Windows servers and no any other OS in the
production.

On 26 November 2010 15:05, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote:


 On Nov 26, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:

  I work on this way too. There ais no problem with netflow-sensor. But I
 can not find good inexpensive collector for Windows which can collect data
 and do graphic report.


 Open-source = free.

 And you should be using *NIX, anyways.  Using it for a simple project like
 this is a good learning experience.

 ;

 ---
 Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com

   Sell your computer and buy a guitar.








Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-26 Thread Dobbins, Roland

On Nov 26, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:

  But corporate politic use only Windows servers and no any other OS in the 
 production.

They obviously use IOS or JunOS or what-have-you on their routers and other 
networking gear - classify this server as a piece of infrastructure equipment, 
and you're golden.

;

---
Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com

   Sell your computer and buy a guitar.







Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-26 Thread Jeff Gehlbach


Sergey Voropaev serge.devo...@gmail.com wrote:

Is it possible to view flows (at least srs and dst addresses) in the
NMS or
only interface utilization?

In OpenNMS? No flow or conversation support built in as of today. Some have 
successfully integrated with cflowd, jflow, or other similar packages; I'm not 
familiar with the details of those integrations.

-jeff



Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-26 Thread LaDerrick H.
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 07:06:26AM +, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
 
 On Nov 26, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:
 
   Our task - is to find such applications and report to management and 
  developers a problem. Also if we'll be aware about it we could configure
  QoS.
 
 One place to start would be an open-source NetFlow collector/analyzer like 
 nfdump/nfsen:
 
 http://nfdump.sourceforge.net/
 
 http://nfsen.sourceforge.net/

I use these tools with great success and can recommend them for a quick,
easy setup and trouble free operation.  Combined with a few Linux based
internal gateways using fprobe-ulog (http://fprobe.sourceforge.net/) and
you can get a good picture of what's happening on your network.

This page may provide some guidance:
http://mithrandi.net/blog/2010/03/netflow-traffic-monitoring-on-debian-lenny/


 
 ---
 Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com
 
  Sell your computer and buy a guitar.


LaDerrick



Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-26 Thread teemu t. schaabl
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Sergey Voropaev serge.devo...@gmail.comwrote:

 There is no problem with *NIX from the point of view qualification. But
 corporate politic use only Windows servers and no any other OS in the
 production.


I wonder wether your are allowed to use cygwin on your windows machines;
that way you'd
might find http://qosient.com/argus/ helpfull;

cheers,
teemu


RE: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Brandon Kim

Where would the world be if we weren't stuck at 1500 MTU? I've always kinda 
thought, what if that was larger 
from the start

We keep getting faster switchports, but the MTU is still 1500 MTU! I'm sure 
someone has done some testing with
a 10/100 switch with jumbo frames enables versus a 10/100/1000 switch using 
regular 1500 MTU and compared
the performance.




 Subject: RE: Jumbo frame Question
 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:14:02 -0800
 From: gbon...@seven.com
 To: harris@hk1.ibm.com; nanog@nanog.org
 
  Hi
  
  Does anyone have experience on design / implementing the Jumbo frame
  enabled network?
  
  I am working on a project to better utilize a fiber link across east
  coast
  and west coast with the Juniper devices.
  
  Based on the default TCP windows in Linux / Windows and the latency
  between
  east coast and west coast (~80ms) and the default MTU size 1500, the
  maximum throughput of a single TCP session is around ~3Mbps but it is
  too
  slow for us to backing-up the huge amount of data across 2 sites.
 
 There are a lot of stack tweaks you can make but the real answer is
 larger MTU sizes in addition to those tweaks.  Our network is completely
 9000 MTU internally. We don't deploy any servers anymore with MTU 1500.
 MTU 1500 is just plain stupid with any network 100mb ethernet.
 
  The following is the topology that we are using right now.
  
  Host A NIC (MTU 9000) --- GigLAN --- (MTU 9216) Juniper EX4200 (MTU
  9216)
  ---GigLAN --- (MTU 9018) J-6350 cluster A (MTU 9018) --- fiber link
  across site --- (MTU 9018) J-6350 cluster B (MTU 9018) --- GigLAN
 ---
  
  (MTU 9216) Juniper EX4200 (MTU 9216) ---GigLAN --- (MTU 9000) NIC -
  Host
  B
  
  I was trying to test the connectivity from Host A to the J-6350
 cluster
  A
  by using ICMP-Ping with size 8000 and DF bit set but it was failed to
  ping.
  
  Does anyone have experience on it? please advise.
  
  Thanks :-)
 
 You might have some transport in the path (SONET?) that can't send 8000.
 I would try starting at 3000 and working up to find where your limit is.
 
 Your description of fiber link across site is vague. Who is the
 vendor, what kind of service?  
 
 
  

RE: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Brandon Kim wrote:

We keep getting faster switchports, but the MTU is still 1500 MTU! I'm 
sure someone has done some testing with a 10/100 switch with jumbo 
frames enables versus a 10/100/1000 switch using regular 1500 MTU and 
compared the performance.


1500 MTU made sense when network was 10 megabit/s.

Now that we have gig and 10GE (and soon general availability of 100GE), I 
don't understand why 9000 makes people excited, if we're going to do a 
serious effort towards larger MTU, let's make it 15 then (100x) or at 
least 64k.


6x size different isn't that much, and it's going to involve a lot of work 
to make it happen, so if we're going to do that work, do it properly.


--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se



need a contact

2010-11-26 Thread Geo.
Is there anyone on the list from facebook? Email me directly please.

George Roettger



Free Ping services that test your servers Availability from the Internet

2010-11-26 Thread Michael Ruiz
Hey folks,

 

I had a situation recently that our network went down
and our Network Monitoring software did not notify us that the network
was down because the internet connection went down.  We had a problem
with our carrier where they messed up on our /23(where our Network
Monitoring software resides), when they did a maintenance.  What
transpired is our /23 was no longer routing to us.  Is there a free ping
internet service, or something that we can pay a company that just sends
a ping to devices?  If they fail to respond, then an email is sent to
us?  Thank you folks.

 

M.A.R

Senior Network Engineer

 



Re: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Jon Meek
I have the opposite problem. I use iperf to test WAN and VPN
throughput and packet loss, but find that the sending Linux system
starts out with the expected MTU / MSS but then ramps up the packet
size to way beyond 1500. The result is that network equipment must
fragment the packets. On higher bandwidth circuits there are a lot of
re-transmits that mask any real packet loss that might exist in the
path.

I have tried multiple methods to clamp the MTU, but nothing has worked
so far. This leads me to wonder how often real bulk transfer
applications start using jumbo packets that just end up getting
fragmented downstream.

The jumbo packets from iperf occur on various versions of the Linux
kernel and different distributions. It might only happen on GigE.

Suggestions on clamping the MTU are welcome.

Thanks,

Jon

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Harris Hui harris@hk1.ibm.com wrote:

 Hi

 Does anyone have experience on design / implementing the Jumbo frame
 enabled network?



Re: Free Ping services that test your servers Availability from the Internet

2010-11-26 Thread Justin Rocha
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Michael Ruiz mr...@lstfinancial.comwrote:

 Hey folks,



I had a situation recently that our network went down
 and our Network Monitoring software did not notify us that the network
 was down because the internet connection went down.  We had a problem
 with our carrier where they messed up on our /23(where our Network
 Monitoring software resides), when they did a maintenance.  What
 transpired is our /23 was no longer routing to us.  Is there a free ping
 internet service, or something that we can pay a company that just sends
 a ping to devices?  If they fail to respond, then an email is sent to
 us?  Thank you folks.


I generally recommend Pingdom (http://www.pingdom.com/). We used them at my
last employer and they caught a few outages that we didn't even know about.


-- 
Justin Rocha
Xenith || xen...@xenith.org || http://xenith.org/


RE: Free Ping services that test your servers Availability from the Internet

2010-11-26 Thread Richard Graves (RHT)
You could just build a nagios server at your house and use that for free.  Not 
really enterprise-level, but if you're just looking for a last ditch alert it 
should work just fine.

-Richard

-Original Message-
From: Michael Ruiz [mailto:mr...@lstfinancial.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:15 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Free Ping services that test your servers Availability from the 
Internet

Hey folks,

 

I had a situation recently that our network went down
and our Network Monitoring software did not notify us that the network
was down because the internet connection went down.  We had a problem
with our carrier where they messed up on our /23(where our Network
Monitoring software resides), when they did a maintenance.  What
transpired is our /23 was no longer routing to us.  Is there a free ping
internet service, or something that we can pay a company that just sends
a ping to devices?  If they fail to respond, then an email is sent to
us?  Thank you folks.

 

M.A.R

Senior Network Engineer

 




RE: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Richard Graves (RHT)
Jon,

Do you have something blocking MTU Path Discovery?  Unless I'm off base on 
this, shouldn't that be taking care of your issue?

-Richard

-Original Message-
From: Jon Meek [mailto:mee...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:17 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Jumbo frame Question

I have the opposite problem. I use iperf to test WAN and VPN
throughput and packet loss, but find that the sending Linux system
starts out with the expected MTU / MSS but then ramps up the packet
size to way beyond 1500. The result is that network equipment must
fragment the packets. On higher bandwidth circuits there are a lot of
re-transmits that mask any real packet loss that might exist in the
path.

I have tried multiple methods to clamp the MTU, but nothing has worked
so far. This leads me to wonder how often real bulk transfer
applications start using jumbo packets that just end up getting
fragmented downstream.

The jumbo packets from iperf occur on various versions of the Linux
kernel and different distributions. It might only happen on GigE.

Suggestions on clamping the MTU are welcome.

Thanks,

Jon

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Harris Hui harris@hk1.ibm.com wrote:

 Hi

 Does anyone have experience on design / implementing the Jumbo frame
 enabled network?




Re: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2010-11-25 21:14 -0800), George Bonser wrote:

Hey George,

 9000 MTU internally. We don't deploy any servers anymore with MTU 1500.
 MTU 1500 is just plain stupid with any network 100mb ethernet.

I'm big proponent of high MTU, to facilitate user MTU of 1500 while adding
say GRE or IPSEC overhead. But calling it plain stupid to run MTU of 1500
is quite the over statement.

irb(main):001:0 1460.0/(38+1500)
= 0.949284785435631
irb(main):002:0 8960.0/(38+9000)
= 0.991369772073468
irb(main):003:0 

You are theoretically winning 4.2%, which works only internally in your
network, so maybe you'll be able to capitalize on that 4.2% on backup
traffic or so.
Doesn't seem like that critical win to be honest.

-- 
  ++ytti



Re: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:26:30 +0200, Saku Ytti said:

 You are theoretically winning 4.2%, which works only internally in your
 network, so maybe you'll be able to capitalize on that 4.2% on backup
 traffic or so.
 Doesn't seem like that critical win to be honest.

That's only half the calculation.  The *other* half is if you have gear that
has a packets-per-second issue - if you go to 9000 MTU, you can move 6 times as
much data in the same packets-per-second. Anybody who's ever had to
trim a complicated ACL list because it saturated the CPU knows what I mean.



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Re: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2010-11-26 12:39 -0500), valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

 That's only half the calculation.  The *other* half is if you have gear that
 has a packets-per-second issue - if you go to 9000 MTU, you can move 6 times 
 as
 much data in the same packets-per-second. Anybody who's ever had to
 trim a complicated ACL list because it saturated the CPU knows what I mean.
 
Academically speaking interesting topic, of course the actual time to copy
the packet is not constant, so you are not going to see linear increase in
bandwidth. It would be very nice to see graph of say VXR with long enough
ACL to cap 1500B rate very low and then see results of different packet
sizes of 3000, 6000, 9000.
If this is something you regularly need to operationally consider, do you
happen to have such numbers and if not would it be too much of work for you
to provide the numbers?

In my world, we've been running hardware lookup engines since 2003, so we
really don't need to care about features affecting lookup speed.

-- 
  ++ytti



Re: Free Ping services that test your servers Availability from the Internet

2010-11-26 Thread Lyle Giese
Michael Ruiz wrote:
 Hey folks,

  

 I had a situation recently that our network went down
 and our Network Monitoring software did not notify us that the network
 was down because the internet connection went down.  We had a problem
 with our carrier where they messed up on our /23(where our Network
 Monitoring software resides), when they did a maintenance.  What
 transpired is our /23 was no longer routing to us.  Is there a free ping
 internet service, or something that we can pay a company that just sends
 a ping to devices?  If they fail to respond, then an email is sent to
 us?  Thank you folks.

  

 M.A.R

 Senior Network Engineer

  

   
Let me ask this question from a different angle. Did you NMS notice the
issue? If so, does your software require Internet to notify you?

I use just a simple modem(remember those?GRIN), a pots line and qpage
to send 'out of band' notifications.

Lyle Giese
LCR Computer Services, Inc.




Re: Free Ping services that test your servers Availability from the Internet

2010-11-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/26/10 9:58 AM, Lyle Giese wrote:
 Let me ask this question from a different angle. Did you NMS notice the
 issue? If so, does your software require Internet to notify you?
 
 I use just a simple modem(remember those?GRIN), a pots line and qpage
 to send 'out of band' notifications.
 

Ah yes, the frequently overlooked internet is required to notify when
the internet is broken problem. I use text-to-speech with Asterisk on a
POTS line or PRI. Killing landlines is the cool thing to do these days,
but if IP breaks that's when a POTS line still wins.

~Seth



Re: Free Ping services that test your servers Availability from the Internet

2010-11-26 Thread Stefan Fouant
Webmetrics provides such a service (full disclosure I used to work for these 
guys)...

http://www.webmetrics.com/

Stefan Fouant

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 26, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Michael Ruiz mr...@lstfinancial.com wrote:

 Hey folks,
 
 
 
I had a situation recently that our network went down
 and our Network Monitoring software did not notify us that the network
 was down because the internet connection went down.  We had a problem
 with our carrier where they messed up on our /23(where our Network
 Monitoring software resides), when they did a maintenance.  What
 transpired is our /23 was no longer routing to us.  Is there a free ping
 internet service, or something that we can pay a company that just sends
 a ping to devices?  If they fail to respond, then an email is sent to
 us?  Thank you folks.
 
 
 
 M.A.R
 
 Senior Network Engineer
 
 
 



Weekly Routing Table Report

2010-11-26 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet
Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan.

The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG,
CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group.

Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net

For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net.

If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith p...@cisco.com.

Routing Table Report   04:00 +10GMT Sat 27 Nov, 2010

Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net
Detailed Analysis:  http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/

Analysis Summary


BGP routing table entries examined:  336618
Prefixes after maximum aggregation:  152156
Deaggregation factor:  2.21
Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 165085
Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 35344
Prefixes per ASN:  9.52
Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   30444
Origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   14895
Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4900
Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:121
Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table:   4.3
Max AS path length visible:  31
Max AS path prepend of ASN (36992)   29
Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table:   494
Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 223
Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs:921
Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table:   4
Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table:0
Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space:188
Number of addresses announced to Internet:   2311338848
Equivalent to 137 /8s, 196 /16s and 59 /24s
Percentage of available address space announced:   62.4
Percentage of allocated address space announced:   65.6
Percentage of available address space allocated:   95.0
Percentage of address space in use by end-sites:   86.2
Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations:  138184

APNIC Region Analysis Summary
-

Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes:83261
Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation:   28210
APNIC Deaggregation factor:2.95
Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks:   80180
Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:34447
APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4251
APNIC Prefixes per ASN:   18.86
APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   1194
APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:690
Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:4.4
Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 18
Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet:  571809824
Equivalent to 34 /8s, 21 /16s and 32 /24s
Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 77.5

APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431
(pre-ERX allocations)  23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079
   55296-56319, 131072-132095
APNIC Address Blocks 1/8,  14/8,  27/8,  36/8,  42/8,  43/8,  49/8,
58/8,  59/8,  60/8,  61/8, 101/8, 110/8, 111/8,
   112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8,
   119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8,
   126/8, 133/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8,
   203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8,
   222/8, 223/8,

ARIN Region Analysis Summary


Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:136335
Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:69801
ARIN Deaggregation factor: 1.95
Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks:   107499
Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 43805
ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:14036
ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 7.66
ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:5381
ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:1487
Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 4.0
Max ARIN Region AS path length visible:  

Re: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Randy Bush
 1500 MTU made sense when network was 10 megabit/s.
 
 Now that we have gig and 10GE (and soon general availability of 100GE), I 
 don't understand why 9000 makes people excited, if we're going to do a 
 serious effort towards larger MTU, let's make it 15 then (100x) or at 
 least 64k.

the reason ieee has not allowed upping of the frame size is that the crc
is at the prudent limits at 1500.  yes, we do another check above the
frame (uh, well, udp4 may not), but the ether spec can not count on
that.

randy



RE: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread George Bonser
  1500 MTU made sense when network was 10 megabit/s.
 
  Now that we have gig and 10GE (and soon general availability of
 100GE), I
  don't understand why 9000 makes people excited, if we're going to do
 a
  serious effort towards larger MTU, let's make it 15 then (100x)
 or at
  least 64k.
 
 the reason ieee has not allowed upping of the frame size is that the
 crc
 is at the prudent limits at 1500.  yes, we do another check above the
 frame (uh, well, udp4 may not), but the ether spec can not count on
 that.
 
 randy

The CRC loses its effectiveness at around 12K bytes so yeah, 64K bytes
would probably require a change to detect all possible double-but
errors.  But 9K bytes is still within the effective range of the current
CRC algorithm.

From Dykstra:

'Jumbo frames' extends ethernet to 9000 bytes. Why 9000? First because
ethernet uses a 32 bit CRC that loses its effectiveness above about
12000 bytes. And secondly, 9000 was large enough to carry an 8 KB
application datagram (e.g. NFS) plus packet header overhead. Is 9000
bytes enough? It's a lot better than 1500, but for pure performance
reasons there is little reason to stop there. At 64 KB we reach the
limit of an IPv4 datagram, while IPv6 allows for packets up to 4 GB in
size. For ethernet however, the 32 bit CRC limit is hard to change, so
don't expect to see ethernet frame sizes above 9000 bytes anytime soon.


But it actually washes because if you have a larger packet size, you
have fewer packets so while you might have a higher false pass rate on
the larger packets, since you have fewer packets involved, the actual
false pass rate for a given amount of data is virtually unchanged.

http://staff.psc.edu/mathis/MTU/arguments.html#crc





Re: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Randy Bush wrote:

the reason ieee has not allowed upping of the frame size is that the crc 
is at the prudent limits at 1500.  yes, we do another check above the 
frame (uh, well, udp4 may not), but the ether spec can not count on 
that.


http://staff.psc.edu/mathis/MTU/arguments.html#crc seems to disagree?

--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se



Re: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-26 Thread Joel Jaeggli
10/100 switches and NICs pretty much universally do not support jumbos.

Joel's widget number 2

On Nov 26, 2010, at 8:02, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com wrote:

 
 Where would the world be if we weren't stuck at 1500 MTU? I've always kinda 
 thought, what if that was larger 
 from the start
 
 We keep getting faster switchports, but the MTU is still 1500 MTU! I'm sure 
 someone has done some testing with
 a 10/100 switch with jumbo frames enables versus a 10/100/1000 switch using 
 regular 1500 MTU and compared
 the performance.
 
 
 
 
 Subject: RE: Jumbo frame Question
 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:14:02 -0800
 From: gbon...@seven.com
 To: harris@hk1.ibm.com; nanog@nanog.org
 
 Hi
 
 Does anyone have experience on design / implementing the Jumbo frame
 enabled network?
 
 I am working on a project to better utilize a fiber link across east
 coast
 and west coast with the Juniper devices.
 
 Based on the default TCP windows in Linux / Windows and the latency
 between
 east coast and west coast (~80ms) and the default MTU size 1500, the
 maximum throughput of a single TCP session is around ~3Mbps but it is
 too
 slow for us to backing-up the huge amount of data across 2 sites.
 
 There are a lot of stack tweaks you can make but the real answer is
 larger MTU sizes in addition to those tweaks.  Our network is completely
 9000 MTU internally. We don't deploy any servers anymore with MTU 1500.
 MTU 1500 is just plain stupid with any network 100mb ethernet.
 
 The following is the topology that we are using right now.
 
 Host A NIC (MTU 9000) --- GigLAN --- (MTU 9216) Juniper EX4200 (MTU
 9216)
 ---GigLAN --- (MTU 9018) J-6350 cluster A (MTU 9018) --- fiber link
 across site --- (MTU 9018) J-6350 cluster B (MTU 9018) --- GigLAN
 ---
 
 (MTU 9216) Juniper EX4200 (MTU 9216) ---GigLAN --- (MTU 9000) NIC -
 Host
 B
 
 I was trying to test the connectivity from Host A to the J-6350
 cluster
 A
 by using ICMP-Ping with size 8000 and DF bit set but it was failed to
 ping.
 
 Does anyone have experience on it? please advise.
 
 Thanks :-)
 
 You might have some transport in the path (SONET?) that can't send 8000.
 I would try starting at 3000 and working up to find where your limit is.
 
 Your description of fiber link across site is vague. Who is the
 vendor, what kind of service?  
 
 
 
 



BGP Update Report

2010-11-26 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report
Interval: 18-Nov-10 -to- 25-Nov-10 (7 days)
Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072

TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS479543590  3.0% 180.1 -- INDOSATM2-ID INDOSATM2  ASN
 2 - AS14420   37234  2.5%  64.1 -- CORPORACION NACIONAL DE 
TELECOMUNICACIONES - CNT EP
 3 - AS32528   22924  1.6%7641.3 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs
 4 - AS840222634  1.5%  12.5 -- CORBINA-AS Corbina Telecom
 5 - AS476118907  1.3% 187.2 -- INDOSAT-INP-AP INDOSAT Internet 
Network Provider
 6 - AS35931   13901  0.9%4633.7 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO 
HOLDINGS INC
 7 - AS22767   13748  0.9%3437.0 -- NASA-ESDIS-NET - National 
Aeronautics and Space Administration
 8 - AS949813424  0.9%  39.5 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd.
 9 - AS580011013  0.8%  50.5 -- DNIC-ASBLK-05800-06055 - DoD 
Network Information Center
10 - AS15978   10716  0.7%3572.0 -- BOBST Group autonomous system
11 - AS982910594  0.7%  38.2 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet 
Backbone
12 - AS17974   10514  0.7%  13.4 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT 
Telekomunikasi Indonesia
13 - AS477110149  0.7%  29.2 -- NZTELECOM Netgate
14 - AS100949106  0.6% 350.2 -- BRUNET-AS BruNet ISP, Telekom 
Brunei Berhad
15 - AS145229026  0.6%  25.6 -- Satnet
16 - AS369928386  0.6%  13.4 -- ETISALAT-MISR
17 - AS9794 7070  0.5% 124.0 -- DNET-ID-AP PT. Core Mediatech 
(D-NET)
18 - AS9443 7049  0.5%   4.8 -- INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus 
Telecommunications
19 - AS3816 7017  0.5%  86.6 -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP
20 - AS6316 7015  0.5% 259.8 -- AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec 
Communications, Inc.


TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix)
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS32528   22924  1.6%7641.3 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs
 2 - AS485614710  0.3%4710.0 -- AUTOMIR-AS NP Automir CJSC
 3 - AS35931   13901  0.9%4633.7 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO 
HOLDINGS INC
 4 - AS15978   10716  0.7%3572.0 -- BOBST Group autonomous system
 5 - AS22767   13748  0.9%3437.0 -- NASA-ESDIS-NET - National 
Aeronautics and Space Administration
 6 - AS9476 6830  0.5%3415.0 -- INTRAPOWER-AS-AP IntraPower 
Pty. Ltd.
 7 - AS479193347  0.2%3347.0 -- UKRGASBANK-AS UKRGASBANK AS
 8 - AS360593080  0.2%3080.0 -- MEDMANAGEMENT-LLC - 
MedManagement, LLC
 9 - AS179042883  0.2%2883.0 -- SLTASUL-LK Sri Lankan Airlines
10 - AS370452385  0.2%2385.0 -- tznic
11 - AS496002297  0.2%2297.0 -- LASEDA La Seda de Barcelona, S.A
12 - AS159842129  0.1%2129.0 -- The Joint-Stock Commercial Bank 
CentroCredit.
13 - AS452933183  0.2%1591.5 -- UT-AS-ID Universitas Terbuka
14 - AS342391424  0.1%1424.0 -- INTERAMERICAN General Insurance 
Company
15 - AS281752617  0.2%1308.5 -- 
16 - AS435343482  0.2%1160.7 -- CREDITCALL CreditCall Ltd
17 - AS26746 685  0.1% 685.0 -- HARVARD-PILGRIM-HEALTH-CARE - 
Harvard Community Health Plan
18 - AS9929 3298  0.2% 659.6 -- CNCNET-CN China Netcom Corp.
19 - AS36961 586  0.0% 586.0 -- ZIPNET
20 - AS39200 551  0.0% 551.0 -- IRNICANYCAST-AS .ir ccTLD of 
Iran


TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name
 1 - 202.92.235.0/24   12488  0.8%   AS9498  -- BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd.
 2 - 130.36.34.0/2411462  0.7%   AS32528 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs
 3 - 130.36.35.0/2411461  0.7%   AS32528 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs
 4 - 63.211.68.0/22 8833  0.6%   AS35931 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO 
HOLDINGS INC
 5 - 216.126.136.0/22   6937  0.4%   AS6316  -- AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec 
Communications, Inc.
 6 - 192.107.195.128/   6879  0.4%   AS22767 -- NASA-ESDIS-NET - National 
Aeronautics and Space Administration
 7 - 169.154.197.128/   6857  0.4%   AS22767 -- NASA-ESDIS-NET - National 
Aeronautics and Space Administration
 8 - 190.65.228.0/226231  0.4%   AS3816  -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP
 9 - 195.2.198.0/23 4710  0.3%   AS48561 -- AUTOMIR-AS NP Automir CJSC
10 - 198.140.43.0/244604  0.3%   AS35931 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO 
HOLDINGS INC
11 - 195.141.217.0/24   3572  0.2%   AS15978 -- BOBST Group autonomous system
12 - 195.95.141.0/243572  0.2%   AS15978 -- BOBST Group autonomous system
13 - 195.189.204.0/23   3572  0.2%   AS15978 -- BOBST Group autonomous system
15 - 206.184.16.0/243485  0.2%   AS174   -- COGENT Cogent/PSI
16 - 91.197.95.0/24 3478  0.2%   AS43534 -- CREDITCALL CreditCall Ltd
17 - 91.208.198.0/243347  0.2%   AS47919 -- UKRGASBANK-AS UKRGASBANK AS
18 - 

The Cidr Report

2010-11-26 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Nov 26 21:12:15 2010 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.

Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report.

Recent Table History
Date  PrefixesCIDR Agg
19-11-10341575  209134
20-11-10341193  209258
21-11-10341071  209274
22-11-10341180  209001
23-11-10341153  208234
24-11-10340623  208371
25-11-10340912  208438
26-11-10340092  208435


AS Summary
 36059  Number of ASes in routing system
 15393  Number of ASes announcing only one prefix
  4549  Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS
AS4323 : TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc.
  104799488  Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s)
AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street


Aggregation Summary
The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only
when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as 
to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also
proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes').

 --- 26Nov10 ---
ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr  NetGain   % Gain   Description

Table 340233   208435   13179838.7%   All ASes

AS6389  3741  510 323186.4%   BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK -
   BellSouth.net Inc.
AS4323  4549 1742 280761.7%   TWTC - tw telecom holdings,
   inc.
AS19262 1838  419 141977.2%   VZGNI-TRANSIT - Verizon Online
   LLC
AS4766  1737  591 114666.0%   KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom
AS17488 1368  282 108679.4%   HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over
   Cable Internet
AS4755  1386  415  97170.1%   TATACOMM-AS TATA
   Communications formerly VSNL
   is Leading ISP
AS18566 1092  158  93485.5%   COVAD - Covad Communications
   Co.
AS22773 1254  352  90271.9%   ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC -
   Cox Communications Inc.
AS10620 1335  455  88065.9%   Telmex Colombia S.A.
AS6503  1161  285  87675.5%   Axtel, S.A.B. de C.V.
AS33363 1580  763  81751.7%   BHN-TAMPA - BRIGHT HOUSE
   NETWORKS, LLC
AS24560 1030  217  81378.9%   AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti
   Airtel Ltd., Telemedia
   Services
AS28573 1174  376  79868.0%   NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A.
AS18101  909  155  75482.9%   RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN
   Reliance Communications
   Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI
AS7545  1454  736  71849.4%   TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Internet
   Pty Ltd
AS8151  1349  710  63947.4%   Uninet S.A. de C.V.
AS8452  1122  484  63856.9%   TE-AS TE-AS
AS4808   927  297  63068.0%   CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP
   network China169 Beijing
   Province Network
AS17676  641   67  57489.5%   GIGAINFRA Softbank BB Corp.
AS7303   827  270  55767.4%   Telecom Argentina S.A.
AS22047  564   31  53394.5%   VTR BANDA ANCHA S.A.
AS6478  1413  882  53137.6%   ATT-INTERNET3 - ATT Services,
   Inc.
AS4780   712  211  50170.4%   SEEDNET Digital United Inc.
AS7552   636  139  49778.1%   VIETEL-AS-AP Vietel
   Corporation
AS9443   571   75  49686.9%   INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus
   Telecommunications
AS14420  575   86  48985.0%   CORPORACION NACIONAL DE
   TELECOMUNICACIONES - CNT EP
AS1785  1806 1322  48426.8%   AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec
   Communications, Inc.
AS11492 1260  783  47737.9%   CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC.
AS4804   544   76  46886.0%   MPX-AS Microplex PTY LTD
AS45595  551   83  46884.9%   PKTELECOM-AS-PK Pakistan
   Telecom Company Limited

Total  39106129722613466.8%   Top 30 total


Possible Bogus Routes

 

RE: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-26 Thread kmedc...@dessus.com
 Cisco's expression of a MAC address is wrong anyway. Correct notation
 for a MAC address is separating each byte with a colon.

 Doesn't matter... It's widespread and Cisco isn't the only one to use it.

Just for my own edification, who else besides Cisco do you know who
uses that notation for MAC addresses? I want some convincing before
I'll accept the claim that it's widespread.

Windows displays macs as dash separated hexified bytes (ie, 12-34-56-78-90-AB) 
which is incorrect.

Given how widespread and pervasive the Microsoft Windows Virus is, I'd call 
this widespread and pervasive.








Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-26 Thread Owen DeLong

On Nov 26, 2010, at 2:11 PM, kmedc...@dessus.com wrote:

 Cisco's expression of a MAC address is wrong anyway. Correct notation
 for a MAC address is separating each byte with a colon.
 
 Doesn't matter... It's widespread and Cisco isn't the only one to use it.
 
 Just for my own edification, who else besides Cisco do you know who
 uses that notation for MAC addresses? I want some convincing before
 I'll accept the claim that it's widespread.
 
 Windows displays macs as dash separated hexified bytes (ie, 
 12-34-56-78-90-AB) which is incorrect.
 
 Given how widespread and pervasive the Microsoft Windows Virus is, I'd call 
 this widespread and pervasive.
 
 
 
 
 
Windows is not a virus. Viruses are tight, well written pieces of code with a 
specific (usually nefarious)
purpose.

While windows certainly qualifies as nefarious, I doubt anyone would consider 
it tight or well written
code.

Owen




Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-26 Thread JC Dill

 On 26/11/10 6:51 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote:

On Nov 26, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:


  But corporate politic use only Windows servers and no any other OS in the 
production.

They obviously use IOS or JunOS or what-have-you on their routers and other 
networking gear - classify this server as a piece of infrastructure equipment, 
and you're golden.

;


until

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17412/now_its_updated

jc