Re: SORBS?!

2012-04-05 Thread Sam Oduor
Some of the IP's I manage got blacklisted and its true they were spamming
and Sorbs had a very valid reason for blacklisting them.

I got this response response from sorbs after resolving the problem
amicably. Sorbs responded well on time.

*Your request appear to have been resolved. If you have any
further questions or concerns, please respond to this message.

Please note:

If your IP address has been delisted (marked as 'Inactive'), it will
take up to 2 hours to get from the database to all the SORBS DNS
servers.  Changes to the database are exported to the DNS zone files
periodically, not immediately after every change.  Furthermore, after
the updated database contents have been exported to the DNS zone
files, it will then take up to 48 hours for the outdated DNS
information to be removed from DNS caches around the world - none
of these are in SORBS' control.

Please do not reply to this call with problems not related to
this ticket or your request will be ignored.



*
*On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Chris Conn cc...@b2b2c.ca wrote:
*

 *Hello,

 Is anyone from SORBS still listening?   We have a few IP addresses here
 and there that are listed, one in particular that has been for a spam
 incident from over a year ago.  The last spam date is 03/05/2011
 according to their lookup tools.* *

 We don't have access to their Net Manager even if our ARIN POC corresponds
 to the account on their system we opened a while ago.  We use their ISP
 feedback form and never get any responses back.* *

 Is SORBS still relevant and functional?* *

 Sincerely,*

 Chris Conn
 B2B2C.ca




-- 
Samson Oduor


RE: SORBS?!

2012-04-05 Thread Drew Weaver
Now, if we could only teach Senderbase that if their customers receive 
'questionable' smtp traffic from 1 IP address in a /24 it doesn't mean that all 
IP addresses in that /24 are malicious we'd really be living it up in 2012.



-Original Message-
From: Sam Oduor [mailto:sam.od...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:56 AM
To: Chris Conn
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: SORBS?!

Some of the IP's I manage got blacklisted and its true they were spamming and 
Sorbs had a very valid reason for blacklisting them.

I got this response response from sorbs after resolving the problem amicably. 
Sorbs responded well on time.

*Your request appear to have been resolved. If you have any further questions 
or concerns, please respond to this message.

Please note:

If your IP address has been delisted (marked as 'Inactive'), it will take up to 
2 hours to get from the database to all the SORBS DNS servers.  Changes to the 
database are exported to the DNS zone files periodically, not immediately after 
every change.  Furthermore, after the updated database contents have been 
exported to the DNS zone files, it will then take up to 48 hours for the 
outdated DNS information to be removed from DNS caches around the world - none 
of these are in SORBS' control.

Please do not reply to this call with problems not related to this ticket or 
your request will be ignored.



*
*On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Chris Conn cc...@b2b2c.ca wrote:
*

 *Hello,

 Is anyone from SORBS still listening?   We have a few IP addresses here
 and there that are listed, one in particular that has been for a spam 
 incident from over a year ago.  The last spam date is 03/05/2011 
 according to their lookup tools.* *

 We don't have access to their Net Manager even if our ARIN POC 
 corresponds to the account on their system we opened a while ago.  We 
 use their ISP feedback form and never get any responses back.* *

 Is SORBS still relevant and functional?* *

 Sincerely,*

 Chris Conn
 B2B2C.ca




--
Samson Oduor



SIP Carrier Consolidation

2012-04-05 Thread Elijah Savage
Anyone here that have gone through the process of SIP trunking consolidation 
care to comment offline on

Whom do you utilize?
What has been your experience operationally?
What was your experience during transition/implementation?

Thank you ahead of time.



RE: SORBS?!

2012-04-05 Thread goemon

This is often the only way to get peoples attention and get action.


Providers dont care about individual /32's and will let them sit around 
and spew nigerian scams and pill spams without any consequences.


But they will care about a /24.

-Dan

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Drew Weaver wrote:


Now, if we could only teach Senderbase that if their customers receive 
'questionable' smtp traffic from 1 IP address in a /24 it doesn't mean that all 
IP addresses in that /24 are malicious we'd really be living it up in 2012.



-Original Message-
From: Sam Oduor [mailto:sam.od...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:56 AM
To: Chris Conn
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: SORBS?!

Some of the IP's I manage got blacklisted and its true they were spamming and 
Sorbs had a very valid reason for blacklisting them.

I got this response response from sorbs after resolving the problem amicably. 
Sorbs responded well on time.

*Your request appear to have been resolved. If you have any further questions 
or concerns, please respond to this message.

Please note:

If your IP address has been delisted (marked as 'Inactive'), it will take up to 
2 hours to get from the database to all the SORBS DNS servers.  Changes to the 
database are exported to the DNS zone files periodically, not immediately after 
every change.  Furthermore, after the updated database contents have been 
exported to the DNS zone files, it will then take up to 48 hours for the 
outdated DNS information to be removed from DNS caches around the world - none 
of these are in SORBS' control.

Please do not reply to this call with problems not related to this ticket or 
your request will be ignored.



*
*On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Chris Conn cc...@b2b2c.ca wrote:
*


*Hello,

Is anyone from SORBS still listening?   We have a few IP addresses here
and there that are listed, one in particular that has been for a spam
incident from over a year ago.  The last spam date is 03/05/2011
according to their lookup tools.* *

We don't have access to their Net Manager even if our ARIN POC
corresponds to the account on their system we opened a while ago.  We
use their ISP feedback form and never get any responses back.* *

Is SORBS still relevant and functional?* *

Sincerely,*

Chris Conn
B2B2C.ca





--
Samson Oduor






Re: Quad-A records in Network Solutions ?

2012-04-05 Thread George B.
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Matt Ryanczak ryanc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I too had  with nesol years ago. It required special phone calls to
 special people to update. Customer support never knew what was going on
 regarding  or IPvWhat?.

 I suspect all of the people there that know about these types of things have
 moved on. Netsol has been leaking people since their sale to web.com last
 year, from actual layoffs and fear of the same.

 ~matt

How long did it take them?  We have had a request in for  records
for a domain for over a week now, and nothing in whois yet.



Re: SORBS?!

2012-04-05 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 05/04/2012 17:48, goe...@anime.net wrote:
 But they will care about a /24.

I'm curious as to why they would want to stop at /24.  If you're going to
take the shotgun approach, why not blacklist the entire ASN?

Nick



Re: SIP Carrier Consolidation

2012-04-05 Thread Robert E. Seastrom

SIP trunking consolidation is buzzword heavy and context-light.

What problem are you trying to solve and at what scale?  Do you have a
requirement to have the provider be a traditional TDM-based
organization or is an aggregator sufficient?  How price-sensitive are
you?

At fairly small scale (10 DIDs including some 877 numbers, feeding to
Asterisk) I've had fine luck with http://voip.ms/

But your requirements may vary...

-r

Elijah Savage esav...@digitalrage.org writes:

 Anyone here that have gone through the process of SIP trunking consolidation 
 care to comment offline on

 Whom do you utilize?
 What has been your experience operationally?
 What was your experience during transition/implementation?

 Thank you ahead of time.



Re: SORBS?!

2012-04-05 Thread PC
That's probably a better idea.

I moved into a /24 ip block that was SWIPed to me that they reported was
dynamic cable/DSL users (no spam history, mind you).  Didn't matter, I
couldn't send e-mail.

When trying to get it delisted I had a TTL on the zone that was
incompatible with their standards (for DR failover purposes) and was
unwilling to maintain a TTL of how many ever hours they wanted as it didn't
fit the company's requirements.

I ended up just getting  a new IP block from the ISP as they gave up on
resolving it too.  Kind of a waste, but it worked.  I relocated to there
instead.

1 year later they updated my ticket and delisted it.



On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:

 On 05/04/2012 17:48, goe...@anime.net wrote:
  But they will care about a /24.

 I'm curious as to why they would want to stop at /24.  If you're going to
 take the shotgun approach, why not blacklist the entire ASN?

 Nick




Re: SIP Carrier Consolidation

2012-04-05 Thread Elijah Savage
Thank you for the reply.

Yes an aggregator, large deployment.

Initially this is discovery, though price is always important it is most about 
understanding operations and implementation at this point. 

- Original Message -
From: Robert E. Seastrom r...@seastrom.com
To: Elijah Savage esav...@digitalrage.org
Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:44:22 PM
Subject: Re: SIP Carrier Consolidation


SIP trunking consolidation is buzzword heavy and context-light.

What problem are you trying to solve and at what scale?  Do you have a
requirement to have the provider be a traditional TDM-based
organization or is an aggregator sufficient?  How price-sensitive are
you?

At fairly small scale (10 DIDs including some 877 numbers, feeding to
Asterisk) I've had fine luck with http://voip.ms/

But your requirements may vary...

-r

Elijah Savage esav...@digitalrage.org writes:

 Anyone here that have gone through the process of SIP trunking consolidation 
 care to comment offline on

 Whom do you utilize?
 What has been your experience operationally?
 What was your experience during transition/implementation?

 Thank you ahead of time.



Re: SIP Carrier Consolidation

2012-04-05 Thread Daryl G. Jurbala
I have to respond with the sentiments of Robert: large is a very relative 
term.  Also, are we talking about origination or termination here?  How many 
minutes a day of each? What's your ACD?  What are your top destinations? If 
it's bursty like a call center how many concurrent calls?

You can't get any real answers without providing relevant information.

On Apr 5, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Elijah Savage wrote:

 Thank you for the reply.
 
 Yes an aggregator, large deployment.
 
 Initially this is discovery, though price is always important it is most 
 about understanding operations and implementation at this point. 




Re: Quad-A records in Network Solutions ?

2012-04-05 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:26:11AM -0700, George B. wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Matt Ryanczak ryanc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I too had  with nesol years ago. It required special phone calls to
  special people to update. Customer support never knew what was going on
  regarding  or IPvWhat?.
 
  I suspect all of the people there that know about these types of things have
  moved on. Netsol has been leaking people since their sale to web.com last
  year, from actual layoffs and fear of the same.
 
  ~matt
 
 How long did it take them?  We have had a request in for  records
 for a domain for over a week now, and nothing in whois yet.

2002, it took 3hrs.

/bill