Re: Fiji Islands
It is not impossible but you have to prove the current providers cannot provide you the service. Some resorts in remote islands use VSAT. To be noted O3B could be a solution too. Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question. On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "Mike Hale" wrote: > Zaid, Franck: Thanks for the clarification. I forgot to take into > account politics. > > I suppose it's impossible to obtain a VSAT license if you're > transmitting to an out-of-country teleport? > > The technical support side isn't that difficult if you've got > reasonable intelligent people onsite along with spares of > *everything*. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: >> VSAT is resold by Telecom Fiji so you are not going to get anything >> different than the Telecom Fiji experience with the added bonus of very few >> folks using VSAT in the country and Telecom FIji doing a poor job of >> operational support of VSAT. I considered VSAT 12 years ago for connecting >> the university medical network I built there but setting aside costs there >> was really no competence from Telecom Fiji to manage this service. If >> something breaks in the earth station a VSAT tech is flown from Australia >> and it can take weeks to fix anything. >> >> My suggestion is to work with Connect folks and explore redundancy from >> either vodafone or digicel as Franck suggested. My experience there has been >> building networks in Suva, Lautoka, Nadi. Skeeve can give more advise for >> all the fun building in the resort Islands :) >> >> Zaid >> >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Mike Hale wrote: >> >>> VSAT *isn't* a waste of time if you're willing to spend the money. >>> >>> But that, of course, is the key point. Quality VSAT service costs a >>> LOT of money (3k-5k per asymetrical megabit). Plus, a quality >>> provider will have no problem providing you with BGP. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: Fintel and TFL sleep in the same bed essentially. Fintel is the gatekeeper of the southern cross cable protected heavily by the local government, your typical monopoly setup. Connect is a business unit of TFL. I think you can do the math there. Fintel does not do BGP out of the country (or didn't the last time I was there). Forget VSAT, waste of time. Zaid On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Mike Hale wrote: > It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross > cable. That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to you. > > Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other issues > with it. > > Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin > wrote: >> In no particular order >> >> Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj >> Fintel.com.fj >> Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick) >> Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone network) >> >> If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck! >> >> Is that for Fiji Water? ;) >> >> These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji. >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma >> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve >> >> On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" wrote: >> >>> Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)? >> >> > > > > -- > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 >> > > > > -- > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
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Re: Fiji Islands
Zaid, Franck: Thanks for the clarification. I forgot to take into account politics. I suppose it's impossible to obtain a VSAT license if you're transmitting to an out-of-country teleport? The technical support side isn't that difficult if you've got reasonable intelligent people onsite along with spares of *everything*. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: > VSAT is resold by Telecom Fiji so you are not going to get anything different > than the Telecom Fiji experience with the added bonus of very few folks using > VSAT in the country and Telecom FIji doing a poor job of operational support > of VSAT. I considered VSAT 12 years ago for connecting the university medical > network I built there but setting aside costs there was really no competence > from Telecom Fiji to manage this service. If something breaks in the earth > station a VSAT tech is flown from Australia and it can take weeks to fix > anything. > > My suggestion is to work with Connect folks and explore redundancy from > either vodafone or digicel as Franck suggested. My experience there has been > building networks in Suva, Lautoka, Nadi. Skeeve can give more advise for all > the fun building in the resort Islands :) > > Zaid > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Mike Hale wrote: > >> VSAT *isn't* a waste of time if you're willing to spend the money. >> >> But that, of course, is the key point. Quality VSAT service costs a >> LOT of money (3k-5k per asymetrical megabit). Plus, a quality >> provider will have no problem providing you with BGP. >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: >>> Fintel and TFL sleep in the same bed essentially. Fintel is the gatekeeper >>> of the southern cross cable protected heavily by the local government, your >>> typical monopoly setup. Connect is a business unit of TFL. I think you can >>> do the math there. >>> >>> Fintel does not do BGP out of the country (or didn't the last time I was >>> there). Forget VSAT, waste of time. >>> >>> Zaid >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Mike Hale wrote: >>> It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross cable. That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to you. Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other issues with it. Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > In no particular order > > Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj > Fintel.com.fj > Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick) > Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone network) > > If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck! > > Is that for Fiji Water? ;) > > These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a > http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve > > On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" wrote: > >> Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)? > > -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 > -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Re: Fiji Islands
VSAT is resold by Telecom Fiji so you are not going to get anything different than the Telecom Fiji experience with the added bonus of very few folks using VSAT in the country and Telecom FIji doing a poor job of operational support of VSAT. I considered VSAT 12 years ago for connecting the university medical network I built there but setting aside costs there was really no competence from Telecom Fiji to manage this service. If something breaks in the earth station a VSAT tech is flown from Australia and it can take weeks to fix anything. My suggestion is to work with Connect folks and explore redundancy from either vodafone or digicel as Franck suggested. My experience there has been building networks in Suva, Lautoka, Nadi. Skeeve can give more advise for all the fun building in the resort Islands :) Zaid On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Mike Hale wrote: > VSAT *isn't* a waste of time if you're willing to spend the money. > > But that, of course, is the key point. Quality VSAT service costs a > LOT of money (3k-5k per asymetrical megabit). Plus, a quality > provider will have no problem providing you with BGP. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: >> Fintel and TFL sleep in the same bed essentially. Fintel is the gatekeeper >> of the southern cross cable protected heavily by the local government, your >> typical monopoly setup. Connect is a business unit of TFL. I think you can >> do the math there. >> >> Fintel does not do BGP out of the country (or didn't the last time I was >> there). Forget VSAT, waste of time. >> >> Zaid >> >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Mike Hale wrote: >> >>> It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross >>> cable. That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to you. >>> >>> Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other issues with >>> it. >>> >>> Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin wrote: In no particular order Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj Fintel.com.fj Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick) Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone network) If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck! Is that for Fiji Water? ;) These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji. http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" wrote: > Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 >>> >> > > > > -- > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Re: Fiji Islands
And you need a license to operate VSAT in Fiji (as well as to operate an ISP), which is near impossible to get on the mainland, as TFL can provide you the service you require. For SCC, FINTEL and TFL have direct access to SCC. Tho last time I looked, TFL peering is not very good. FINTEL: http://bgp.he.net/AS9241 TFL: http://bgp.he.net/AS45349 And there is the University of the South Pacific which is not a provider of any Internet Service http://bgp.he.net/AS24390 The fun part of all of that, is that the interconnection of these 3 AS is done overseasŠ FAIL! On 7/31/12 6:05 PM, "Mike Hale" wrote: >VSAT *isn't* a waste of time if you're willing to spend the money. > >But that, of course, is the key point. Quality VSAT service costs a >LOT of money (3k-5k per asymetrical megabit). Plus, a quality >provider will have no problem providing you with BGP. > >On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: >> Fintel and TFL sleep in the same bed essentially. Fintel is the >>gatekeeper of the southern cross cable protected heavily by the local >>government, your typical monopoly setup. Connect is a business unit of >>TFL. I think you can do the math there. >> >> Fintel does not do BGP out of the country (or didn't the last time I >>was there). Forget VSAT, waste of time. >> >> Zaid >> >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Mike Hale wrote: >> >>> It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross >>> cable. That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to you. >>> >>> Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other issues >>>with it. >>> >>> Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin >>>wrote: In no particular order Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj Fintel.com.fj Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick) Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone network) If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck! Is that for Fiji Water? ;) These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji. http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" wrote: > Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 >>> >> > > > >-- >09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Re: Fiji Islands
VSAT *isn't* a waste of time if you're willing to spend the money. But that, of course, is the key point. Quality VSAT service costs a LOT of money (3k-5k per asymetrical megabit). Plus, a quality provider will have no problem providing you with BGP. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: > Fintel and TFL sleep in the same bed essentially. Fintel is the gatekeeper of > the southern cross cable protected heavily by the local government, your > typical monopoly setup. Connect is a business unit of TFL. I think you can do > the math there. > > Fintel does not do BGP out of the country (or didn't the last time I was > there). Forget VSAT, waste of time. > > Zaid > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Mike Hale wrote: > >> It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross >> cable. That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to you. >> >> Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other issues with >> it. >> >> Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff. >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin wrote: >>> In no particular order >>> >>> Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj >>> Fintel.com.fj >>> Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick) >>> Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone network) >>> >>> If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck! >>> >>> Is that for Fiji Water? ;) >>> >>> These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji. >>> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma >>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a >>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve >>> >>> On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" wrote: >>> Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)? >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 >> > -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Re: Fiji Islands
Fintel and TFL sleep in the same bed essentially. Fintel is the gatekeeper of the southern cross cable protected heavily by the local government, your typical monopoly setup. Connect is a business unit of TFL. I think you can do the math there. Fintel does not do BGP out of the country (or didn't the last time I was there). Forget VSAT, waste of time. Zaid On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Mike Hale wrote: > It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross > cable. That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to you. > > Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other issues with it. > > Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin wrote: >> In no particular order >> >> Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj >> Fintel.com.fj >> Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick) >> Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone network) >> >> If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck! >> >> Is that for Fiji Water? ;) >> >> These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji. >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma >> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve >> >> On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" wrote: >> >>> Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)? >> >> > > > > -- > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 >
Re: Fiji Islands
It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross cable. That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to you. Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other issues with it. Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > In no particular order > > Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj > Fintel.com.fj > Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick) > Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone network) > > If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck! > > Is that for Fiji Water? ;) > > These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a > http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve > > On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" wrote: > >>Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)? > > -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
RE: DOCSIS 3.0 & PPPoE/L2TP compatibility
Hi iptech As others have said, early Cisco CMTS could do full bridging and/or PPPoE termination, but newer gear is typically L3 style only. For wholesale, the cableco could do one of these : * L2 solution : Change your customers to configured as DOCSIS BSoD L2VPN, and deliver you one dot1q VLAN per customer. You can continue to use PPPoE with this config (sessions landing directly on your LNS). Gotcha: don't know about Arris, but Cisco caps you at 4K VLANs per chassis which means this solution doesn't scale all that well. * L2 solution : Change your customers to be setup as DOCSIS BSoD L2VPN, and deliver you one MPLS pseudowire per customer. You can continue to use PPPoE with this config (sessions landing directly on your LNS). Gotcha: don't know about Arris, but Cisco caps you at 16K pw per chassis which means this solution only provides moderate scaling. Also you have to somehow terminate all these pw (which are "xconnect"s in Cisco-speak). * L3 soution : change your customers to land on a dedicated bundle and VRF. Apply policy based routing to force-forward all the CPE traffic up a VLAN to you. If you want to be able to authenticate/count/shape then you probably need to terminate this traffic as IPoE (Use a dedicated BNG, or maybe you could try Cisco ISG). Cableco would provide the DHCP for the CM, you would provide the DHCP for the CPE. CMTS would insert CM MAC as option 82 so you know which CPE belongs to which CM/customer. * L3 solution : last option is to do what they proposed. I would probably still implement this with a dedicated bundle and VRF. But rather than having to land the sessions as IPoE, you can now have them come in as PPTP. This allows you to authenticate/count/shape via your LNS. Hope that helps, Michael.
Re: Fiji Islands
In no particular order Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj Fintel.com.fj Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick) Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone network) If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck! Is that for Fiji Water? ;) These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji. http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" wrote: >Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)?
Re: DOCSIS 3.0 & PPPoE/L2TP compatibility
to elaborate on Valdis' reply, stick a fork in pptp, it is done. https://www.cloudcracker.com/blog/2012/07/29/cracking-ms-chap-v2/ On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:13 PM, iptech wrote: > Hey Ricky, > > Yes that is the exact setup, the cableco bring the customer to us via L2TP, > and now want to do PPTP only. > > I will keep digging on the ARRIS, which I have been told is a C4 system. > Although their website doesnt show much tech specs. > > They are pushing for the L3 option since their CMTS will now be a hop in the > path between the customer and us, instead of L2 transparent. > > Suggestions? > > Thanks, > > > On 7/31/2012 5:19 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: >> >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:33:51 -0400, iptech wrote: >>> >>> 3.0 compliant setup, and this standard no longer supports PPPoE via L2TP, >>> and can now only offer PPTP for terminating with us. >> >> >> As I recall from my reading of "the standard", there's nothing in there to >> prevent any tunneling on top of the DOCSIS bridged ethernet. >> >> I suspect this is not a "standard" problem but an ISP problem... their new >> hardware doesn't support PPPoE/L2TP, it's an additional license, or they >> don't know how (or unwilling) to configure it. >> >> (I'm assuming the PPPoE is between you and the customer, and L2TP is >> between your network and the cable network. i.e. L2TP is how your customers >> are brought to you from the cable network.) >> >> I have no documentation on ARRIS either, so I don't know what they >> can/cannot do. >> > > -- Kyle Creyts Information Assurance Professional BSidesDetroit Organizer
Re: DOCSIS 3.0 & PPPoE/L2TP compatibility
Hey Ricky, Yes that is the exact setup, the cableco bring the customer to us via L2TP, and now want to do PPTP only. I will keep digging on the ARRIS, which I have been told is a C4 system. Although their website doesnt show much tech specs. They are pushing for the L3 option since their CMTS will now be a hop in the path between the customer and us, instead of L2 transparent. Suggestions? Thanks, On 7/31/2012 5:19 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:33:51 -0400, iptech wrote: 3.0 compliant setup, and this standard no longer supports PPPoE via L2TP, and can now only offer PPTP for terminating with us. As I recall from my reading of "the standard", there's nothing in there to prevent any tunneling on top of the DOCSIS bridged ethernet. I suspect this is not a "standard" problem but an ISP problem... their new hardware doesn't support PPPoE/L2TP, it's an additional license, or they don't know how (or unwilling) to configure it. (I'm assuming the PPPoE is between you and the customer, and L2TP is between your network and the cable network. i.e. L2TP is how your customers are brought to you from the cable network.) I have no documentation on ARRIS either, so I don't know what they can/cannot do.
Re: You thought you had... wiring issues!!!
On 31 July 2012 22:07, Lyle Giese wrote: > good one! One question, what are those big cables with the big boot on > them? Its the back of an outside broadcast truck, the cables are triax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triaxial_cable Boots are just used to protect the triax connector from damp when either hooked up to the back of a camera or an outside patch bay - http://www.steadicam-facilities.co.uk/images/equipment-triaxcameracable-163.jpeg -- Nat http://natmorris.co.uk http://twitter.com/natmorris
Re: You thought you had... wiring issues!!!
- Original Message - > From: "Network IPdog" [ sloppy-cable-porn pic attached ] No! N! It's only Tuesday; you can't start the Whacky Weekend thread this early! Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
RE: You thought you had... wiring issues!!!
They are HD Video Cables with baluns for hum suppression. Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!! A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. -Original Message- From: Lyle Giese [mailto:l...@lcrcomputer.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:07 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: You thought you had... wiring issues!!! On 07/31/12 16:04, Network IPdog wrote: > Mates. > > > > WiringIssues.jpg > > > > > > Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!! > > > > A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) > > Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. > > > > good one! One question, what are those big cables with the big boot on them?
Re: You thought you had... wiring issues!!!
For the opposite check - http://www.reddit.com/r/cableporn (completely SFW of course ;)) On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Network IPdog wrote: > Mates. > > > > WiringIssues.jpg > > > > > > Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!! > > > > A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) > > Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. > > > -- Sadiq S O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: You thought you had... wiring issues!!!
On 07/31/12 16:04, Network IPdog wrote: Mates. WiringIssues.jpg Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!! A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. good one! One question, what are those big cables with the big boot on them?
Re: Fiji Islands
Connect is your best bet http://www.connect.com.fj/ Unwired is also a local competitor but I am not sure if they have coverage in Yaqara. Lautoka is a business district so you can get connectivity there from Connect and Unwired but Yaqara you might be quite limited since its a rural area. Send me a message if you need introduction to folks, I am still connected to some local telco and network engineers there. Zaid On Jul 31, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Philip Lavine wrote: > Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)?
Fwd: Re: DOCSIS 3.0 & PPPoE/L2TP compatibility
I've actually run into this specific problem and the issue your running into is that at no time was PPPoE part of the DOCSIS specification. It was supported on several CMTSs because the Cisco UBR shares much of its OS with more mainline Cisco routers which support L2TP and a host of other non-DOCSIS related protocols. It was also widely supported on some of the earliest CMTSs which were bridges instead of routers (then you needed a separate box to be the LNS). The real problem isn't a change in DOCSIS version but that they choose a platform that doesn't share a code base with a general purpose router. This could have been happenstance or by design, but I can tell you your chances of getting PPPoE to work at all on that platform (even for the cable operator) are not high because the box will not operate as a bridge and there is no (AFAIK) way to relay the PPP discover packets. The D3 Arris is either a C4 or a C4C: http://www.arrisi.com/products/product.asp?id=3 On 7/30/2012 8:33 AM, iptech wrote: Hi, We are a small ISP and have a setup in place with the local cable company for terminating their users via L2TP for Internet access. However they have just announced to us that they are moving to a DOCSIS 3.0 compliant setup, and this standard no longer supports PPPoE via L2TP, and can now only offer PPTP for terminating with us. We have already begun replacing our Cisco 7206VXR LNS devices with Cisco ASR 1Ks and as you will be aware the older 7206 can do both L2TP and PPTP, whereas the ASR1k can do only L2TP. I do not have any experience in the cable arena, but from what I have read in the DOCSIS standards, each version has maintained backwards compatibility, therefore I am very surprised our CableCo has claimed they cannot do PPPoE/L2TP anymore. The CMTS they are currently using is a Cisco, and now they are moving to a new ARRIS CMTS. I have not been able to find any information on this device and what it can do or not. With the ASR1K marked as the natural upgrade path for LNS functions, therefore I cannot believe that it is not fully compatible with DOCSIS 3.0. From what I can tell the only way to accommodate the new CMTS PPTP connections will be to terminate them on the legacy 7206VXR, which at the end of the day is a backwards step. I would greatly appreciate if anyone can give me any pointers and/or suggestions on this matter, so I can understand it and move it forward. FYI: The driver for the CMTS upgrades is to offer higher bandwidth access speeds 15mb-20mb. Thank you. -- Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 http://twitter.com/kscotthelms -- Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
Re: Fiji Islands
Hell... who needs help doing any sort of work over there??? I'd love to find a way to bind work and vacation spots together! :) Scott Twitter: @ScottMorrisCCIE E-mail: s...@emanon.com Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard and be Eeeevl.. On 7/31/12 4:14 PM, Philip Lavine wrote: > Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)? > >
Re: DOCSIS 3.0 & PPPoE/L2TP compatibility
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:33:51 -0300, iptech said: > 3.0 compliant setup, and this standard no longer supports PPPoE via > L2TP, and can now only offer PPTP for terminating with us. "Hi ISP, meet Moxie Marlinspike. Moxie, meet ISP. I think you two have something to discuss..." pgpKWNX0Eea1l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DOCSIS 3.0 & PPPoE/L2TP compatibility
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:33:51 -0400, iptech wrote: 3.0 compliant setup, and this standard no longer supports PPPoE via L2TP, and can now only offer PPTP for terminating with us. As I recall from my reading of "the standard", there's nothing in there to prevent any tunneling on top of the DOCSIS bridged ethernet. I suspect this is not a "standard" problem but an ISP problem... their new hardware doesn't support PPPoE/L2TP, it's an additional license, or they don't know how (or unwilling) to configure it. (I'm assuming the PPPoE is between you and the customer, and L2TP is between your network and the cable network. i.e. L2TP is how your customers are brought to you from the cable network.) I have no documentation on ARRIS either, so I don't know what they can/cannot do.
Fiji Islands
Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)?
DOCSIS 3.0 & PPPoE/L2TP compatibility
Hi, We are a small ISP and have a setup in place with the local cable company for terminating their users via L2TP for Internet access. However they have just announced to us that they are moving to a DOCSIS 3.0 compliant setup, and this standard no longer supports PPPoE via L2TP, and can now only offer PPTP for terminating with us. We have already begun replacing our Cisco 7206VXR LNS devices with Cisco ASR 1Ks and as you will be aware the older 7206 can do both L2TP and PPTP, whereas the ASR1k can do only L2TP. I do not have any experience in the cable arena, but from what I have read in the DOCSIS standards, each version has maintained backwards compatibility, therefore I am very surprised our CableCo has claimed they cannot do PPPoE/L2TP anymore. The CMTS they are currently using is a Cisco, and now they are moving to a new ARRIS CMTS. I have not been able to find any information on this device and what it can do or not. With the ASR1K marked as the natural upgrade path for LNS functions, therefore I cannot believe that it is not fully compatible with DOCSIS 3.0. From what I can tell the only way to accommodate the new CMTS PPTP connections will be to terminate them on the legacy 7206VXR, which at the end of the day is a backwards step. I would greatly appreciate if anyone can give me any pointers and/or suggestions on this matter, so I can understand it and move it forward. FYI: The driver for the CMTS upgrades is to offer higher bandwidth access speeds 15mb-20mb. Thank you.
Re: mail.yahoo.com
Kain, Rebecca (.) wrote: It just stopped loading for me and when it did come up, and I got a "terms of agreement" new pop up which circles in an endless loop no matter what you click. Anyone else seeing this today at yahoo.com? Yeah, I'm getting username/password incorrect errors on my android phone as well as seeing the looping terms of agreement and some type of Server Load Error after hitting agree on the web site. I also tried reading the new ToS and Privacy Policy and was unable to connect to those servers with both Chrome and FF. -Keith
mail.yahoo.com
It just stopped loading for me and when it did come up, and I got a "terms of agreement" new pop up which circles in an endless loop no matter what you click. Anyone else seeing this today at yahoo.com?
Re: Update from the NANOG Communications Committee regarding recent off-topic posts
- Original Message - > From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" > Except, of course, it has been called the Communications Committee for > a while now. (The change was made because the committee took > responsibility for more than just the mailing list.) My turn for "silly me". > But 1 change in 7 years made years ago does not, IMHO, merit a > "whatever it calls itself this week" snark. No... not, it doesn't. Maybe it's been less time in Japan? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
Re: Qwest outage (Tampa)
redirect to outages@ On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Dylan Bouterse wrote: > Is anybody familiar with the current Qwest outage in the Tampa area? > > Dylan > >
Qwest outage (Tampa)
Is anybody familiar with the current Qwest outage in the Tampa area? Dylan
