Re: New York Crews?

2012-10-31 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:

 Just wondering if anyone knew of any resources, groups, contacts.


I would also be interested in this (figured I'd comment in case
someone wanted to keep this off list)



altdb contact

2012-10-31 Thread Serajul Hossain
Dear Nanog member,

I would like to know if there is anyone on this mailing list who
is volunteering to help manage altdb.net
It seems like no one is actually responding to db-ad...@altdb.net

We need to update information on our new address block that was originally
owned by a different company.

Regards,
Serajul


75th Broad up/down?

2012-10-31 Thread Jeff Shultz
An online magazine I work with is, we believe, hosted at 75 Broad or 111 
8th. It dropped out Monday night, right after they announced that the 
diesel pumps had fried due to flooding at 75 Broad, came back up early 
Tuesday morning, and then died again this morning.


IP address is in 74.63.44.0/24 block (which may be part of a larger block).

Pinging 74.63.44.255 gets me replies from 208.122.44.210 only.

Anyone know the current status of these facilities? I've got an e-mail 
in to noc@internap but haven't heard back - and if they have a facility 
down they're probably too busy to reply to a single web hosting customer.


I have seen the report from earlier this morning indicating that 111 8th 
had an issue that's been fixed - but the Internap NOC line 
(877.843.4662) still indicates that NYM008 is having a power outage.


Thanks!

--
Jeff Shultz






Re: 75th Broad up/down?

2012-10-31 Thread virendra rode
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On 10/31/2012 09:19 AM, Jeff Shultz wrote:
 An online magazine I work with is, we believe, hosted at 75 Broad
 or 111 8th. It dropped out Monday night, right after they announced
 that the diesel pumps had fried due to flooding at 75 Broad, came
 back up early Tuesday morning, and then died again this morning.
 
 IP address is in 74.63.44.0/24 block (which may be part of a larger
 block).
 
 Pinging 74.63.44.255 gets me replies from 208.122.44.210 only.
 
 Anyone know the current status of these facilities? I've got an
 e-mail in to noc@internap but haven't heard back - and if they have
 a facility down they're probably too busy to reply to a single web
 hosting customer.
 
 I have seen the report from earlier this morning indicating that
 111 8th had an issue that's been fixed - but the Internap NOC line 
 (877.843.4662) still indicates that NYM008 is having a power
 outage.
 
 Thanks!
 
- --
http://tracker.outages.org/reports/view/68

and more update on the list.


regards,
/virendra
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Re: Flood affecting US east coast communication facilities?

2012-10-31 Thread Emily Ozols
Hi Kauto,

Internaps LGA11 DC in NYC was knocked out recently by Sandy.
Here's the official statement:
Please be advised that Internap's LGA11 facility is experiencing
significant flooding in the sub-basement of the 75 Broad Street building as
a result of Hurricane Sandy. The flooding has submerged and destroyed the
site's diesel pumps and is preventing fuel from being pumped to the
generators on the mezzanine level.

The available fuel reserves on the mezzanine level are estimated to support
customer loads for approximately 5-7 hours. Once this fuel supply has been
exhausted the generator will no longer be able to sustain operation and
critical customer power loads will be lost.

The email was sent a while ago and by now the diesel would have run out.
Internap shut down server for customers those that they were contractually
obligated to.

Currently it seems that the AWS stuff is still up and same for Rackspace.
However there have been reports of the US East submarine cables going dark.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Kauto Huopio ka...@huopio.fi wrote:

 Greetings all,

 Any reports on damage to communications facilities on US east coast?

 --Kauto

 --
 Kauto Huopio - ka...@huopio.fi
 (dayjob @ CERT-FI )




-- 
~Em


Re: New York Crews?

2012-10-31 Thread virendra rode
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Hi,

On 10/30/2012 02:00 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
 Anyone know of lists, contacts, etc. for companies looking for
 I.T. Folks for help with cleanup and such on the eastern seaboard?
 I am guessing there will be a demand for anyone from cable pullers
 to Engineers.  I have some free time on my hands and would gladly
 take a cut in pay to go out and work with the cleanup.  I can
 terminate cables, climb towers, etc.  I am sure I am not the only 
 underemployed I.T. Guy who could spend a week or two helping a
 data center, or other entity.
 
 Just wondering if anyone knew of any resources, groups, contacts.
 
 Thanks, Justin
 
 -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol  Yahoo IM: j2sw 
 http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw ­ 
 Follow me on Twitter
- ---
If people interested in such effort feel free to drop me a note w/
your location, contact and what are you willing to help w/. I can put
a list and plot it on tracker so people reach you if need be.


regards,
/virendra
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RE: Flood affecting US east coast communication facilities?

2012-10-31 Thread Alex Rubenstein
If anyone is in need of emergency connectivity, VM's, colo, showers, whatever, 
please contact me. All of our offices in Northern NJ are accessible and online 
and can support any sort of emergency need.



-Original Message-
From: Emily Ozols [mailto:win...@team-metro.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:53 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Flood affecting US east coast communication facilities?

Hi Kauto,

Internaps LGA11 DC in NYC was knocked out recently by Sandy.
Here's the official statement:
Please be advised that Internap's LGA11 facility is experiencing significant 
flooding in the sub-basement of the 75 Broad Street building as a result of 
Hurricane Sandy. The flooding has submerged and destroyed the site's diesel 
pumps and is preventing fuel from being pumped to the generators on the 
mezzanine level.

The available fuel reserves on the mezzanine level are estimated to support 
customer loads for approximately 5-7 hours. Once this fuel supply has been 
exhausted the generator will no longer be able to sustain operation and 
critical customer power loads will be lost.

The email was sent a while ago and by now the diesel would have run out.
Internap shut down server for customers those that they were contractually 
obligated to.

Currently it seems that the AWS stuff is still up and same for Rackspace.
However there have been reports of the US East submarine cables going dark.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Kauto Huopio ka...@huopio.fi wrote:

 Greetings all,

 Any reports on damage to communications facilities on US east coast?

 --Kauto

 --
 Kauto Huopio - ka...@huopio.fi
 (dayjob @ CERT-FI )




--
~Em


NSA and the exchanges

2012-10-31 Thread andy lam
Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors 151 front 
street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the US, but does it 
have the same influence at a building sitting in its neighbor's soil?

There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it 
together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?


feedback welcome.


Re: NSA and the exchanges

2012-10-31 Thread jim deleskie
If your talking the NSA I doubt anyone would tell you.  That being
said: it would mean the US gov't breaking Canadian law I suspect.  Now
in Canada it is quite possible that the Canadian Fed gov't monitors
traffic but I would also say no one would tell you because telling you
would also be in violation in wiretap laws.

Best advice, assume they do and hope they don't. :)

-jim

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, andy lam anwa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors 151 front 
 street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the US, but does 
 it have the same influence at a building sitting in its neighbor's soil?

 There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it 
 together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?


 feedback welcome.



Re: NSA and the exchanges

2012-10-31 Thread John Adams
Allegedly? No, definately.

https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying

https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/att/presskit/ATT_onepager.pdf



-j

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM, andy lam anwa...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors 151
 front street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the US,
 but does it have the same influence at a building sitting in its neighbor's
 soil?

 There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it
 together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?


 feedback welcome.



RE: NSA and the exchanges

2012-10-31 Thread Erik Soosalu
I'd assume the NSA and CSIS would be talking as needed.

Whether CSIS is actually monitoring in there is another question.  I'd
assume yes, but have never heard anything to confirm or deny.


-Original Message-
From: jim deleskie [mailto:deles...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:37 PM
To: andy lam
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NSA and the exchanges

If your talking the NSA I doubt anyone would tell you.  That being
said: it would mean the US gov't breaking Canadian law I suspect.  Now
in Canada it is quite possible that the Canadian Fed gov't monitors
traffic but I would also say no one would tell you because telling you
would also be in violation in wiretap laws.

Best advice, assume they do and hope they don't. :)

-jim

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, andy lam anwa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors
151 front street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the
US, but does it have the same influence at a building sitting in its
neighbor's soil?

 There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it
together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?


 feedback welcome.





Re: NSA and the exchanges

2012-10-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/31/12 11:25 AM, andy lam wrote:
 Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors 151 front 
 street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the US, but does 
 it have the same influence at a building sitting in its neighbor's soil?
 
 There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it 
 together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?
 
 
 feedback welcome.
 


No Such Agency.

~Seth



Re: 75th Broad up/down?

2012-10-31 Thread Rusty Hodge
Here's a few notes from Internap which has stuff at 75 Broad and 111 8th:

 Forwarded Message 

Hurricane Update: Power Restored at LGA9, 111 8th Ave.

Update:
 
We have restored all power to the LGA9 site via generator.  Phase 12
UPS UPS modules are in bypass and being investigated at this time.  We
will be moving the UPS units back inline one at a time as they are
verified over the coming hours.  There is no impact to customer load
expected.  Phase 3 load is currently on UPS conditioned power supported by
generator.

All INAP IP service points are operating normally.  Our staff is currently
working to bring LGA9 Agile customers back up.

 Forwarded Message 

At approximately 23:20 local time, the LGA11 facility returned to
service via generator power, including critical customers loads. The
generators were refuelled and restarted and are currently operating
normally, carrying the critical load. Additionally UPS systems have since
been brought back online and are now helping to support power onsite.
Additional fuel supply is being arranged and there is ample fuel on site
at the moment to maintain operation.

As noted, power to customer gear has been restored, however building
access is still restricted and customers are not yet able to visit the
site.

 Forwarded Message 

At approximately 05:45 EDT connectivity to Internap's LGA11 datacenter was 
lost.  This loss was caused by 2 other datacenter power failures that provide 
fiber to LGA11. We are working with the building personnel at both sites to 
correct the problems. We will provide more updates as information becomes 
available.


 Forwarded Message 

At approximately 23:20 local time, Internap's LGA11 facility returned to 
service via generator power, including critical customers loads. The generators 
were refueled and restarted and are currently operating normally, carrying the 
critical load. Additionally UPS systems have since been brought back online and 
are now helping to support power onsite. There is ample fuel on site at the 
moment to maintain operation and there is a scheduled delivery of additional 
fuel. This will continue until Con Ed restores grid power.  Most all servers 
are not back online and accessible.  Please log in and confirm that everything 
is working as expected in your environment.  



 An online magazine I work with is, we believe, hosted at 75 Broad or 111 8th. 
 It dropped out Monday night, right after they announced that the diesel pumps 
 had fried due to flooding at 75 Broad, came back up early Tuesday morning, 
 and then died again this morning.
 
 IP address is in 74.63.44.0/24 block (which may be part of a larger block).
 
 Pinging 74.63.44.255 gets me replies from 208.122.44.210 only.
 
 Anyone know the current status of these facilities? I've got an e-mail in to 
 noc@internap but haven't heard back - and if they have a facility down 
 they're probably too busy to reply to a single web hosting customer.
 
 I have seen the report from earlier this morning indicating that 111 8th had 
 an issue that's been fixed - but the Internap NOC line (877.843.4662) still 
 indicates that NYM008 is having a power outage.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -- 
 Jeff Shultz
 
 
 
 



Re: NSA and the exchanges

2012-10-31 Thread Robert Guerra
Andy,

Let me recommend the IXmaps project. It is documenting the very question you 
are asking :)


http://www.ixmaps.ca

IXmaps is an interactive tool that enables internet users and researchers to 
study the route(s) that data packets take across North America, with 
'interesting' sites highlighted along the way. It is currently under 
development. It has been supported by a research grant from the Social Sciences 
and Humanities Research Council of Canada's Image, Text, Sound and Technology 
program.

IXmaps is affiliated with the New Transparency Project and the Information 
Policy Research Program at theFaculty of Information, University of Toronto.

regards

Robert

--
Robert Guerra
Senior Advisor, Citizen Lab
Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto
Phone: +1 416-893-0377  Cell: +1 202 905 2081
Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom 
Email: rob...@citizenlab.org
Web: http://citizenlab.org

On 2012-10-31, at 2:25 PM, andy lam wrote:

 Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors 151 front 
 street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the US, but does 
 it have the same influence at a building sitting in its neighbor's soil?
 
 There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it 
 together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?
 
 
 feedback welcome.
















NJ impact

2012-10-31 Thread Alex Rubenstein
I had to summarize this recently for a news article I was interviewed for, so I 
figured I forward:


--

Of our three datacenters, this is what we saw:

Parsippany 1 (OCT) - The worst we saw here was several sub-second power hits. 
UPS's held without problem, and we did not transfer to generator at all yet.

Parsippany 2 (WBR) - Transferred to generator at about 7:55 PM EST Monday as a 
precautionary measure due to ongoing utility power hits. However, shortly after 
transfer, utility voltage went to 0 on all phases; around 10p power returned, 
but abnormally high (seeing about 550 volts on 480 volt bus). We retransferred 
last night as utility voltage settled down.

Cedar Knolls 1 (MMU) - Briefly transferred to generator around 7:10, then back 
to utility. We then force transferred to generator around 8pm and stayed until 
this morning. Returned to utility and all systems are normal.

We have accommodated many customers (and non-customers) by allowing them to use 
our conference rooms and some offices, mainly because they lost power at their 
buildings, lost access to their buildings, or generators ran out of fuel. We 
literally have card tables setup in hallways and common areas where people sit 
and use Wifi to conduct business.

There has been no service interruption of any sort to any of our datacenter 
customers, as of this writing.

We lost one span of fiber optics between MMU and 165 Halsey, Newark (NWR), 
network healed in less than 1 second. It was imperceptible. That was early 
though, Monday afternoon. This has since restored today.

We have sales people onsite who are actively taking sales calls, and there is a 
measurable amount of customers moving equipment into our facilities as I write 
this. Many are moving equipment from offices with no power and no ETR in sight. 
We have electricians onsite to help accommodate.

The facilities department has been manning all locations around the clock.

All sites remain accessible by road. There was never a situation where you 
could not over the last 48 hours.

We have no equipment in 111 8th, so I cannot offer any telemetry there. 
However, our gear in 60 Hudson St (Tel-X 9th floor) is still online.

We saw no interruption at 165 Halsey, except for some very brief utility hits. 
UPS's held.

We are seeing hundreds, if not thousands, of DSL / T1 / T3 / Ethernet customers 
down - presumably mostly power loss on the CPE. We lost our connection to 
Covad, presumably they have gear in a building which lost power. These are only 
just starting to come back.

We have seen substantial interruption to the cellular networks; in many cases, 
ATT Wireless (who NAC uses) is unable to complete a call. In certain areas, 
there is no signal at all.

Where I live, in 07874 (Byram), many roads are impassable and most everyone 
does not have power. Trees are down everywhere. I heard that a Byram squad car 
had a tree land on it while responding to a call. Schools are closed, Halloween 
has been rescheduled according to our governor. My cable is down, cable modem 
is down, POTS service is out - yet I still have xDSL (loop by Verizon, IP by 
NAC) and I run on that successfully. I am unable to get any ATT cell service at 
my house (usually at least three bars). I am on generator at my house, 
consuming about 2 gal/hour (propane), with a little over 500 gallons left.

Gasonline is becoming an issue. As I understand, having talked to our oil 
supplier, there is 0 refinery capacity in NJ at this time. All gasoline is 
being imported from PA, DE, MD, etc. Most stations don't have power. Ones that 
do are generally out of gas. If they have gas, they have mile long lines and 
are rationing.

Diesel is unavailable if you had not pre-arranged for it.

Widespread power outages remain. I am running on generator at my house (Generac 
QT048) on a 1000 gallon tank of propane, have been since Monday about 7pm. It 
is estimated at least 7 to 10 days before power restoration. I have yet to see 
one JCPL truck anywhere near where I live.

That is all I have.

This is the road leading to the Byram Police Dept - I took this yesterday 
morning:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/12696_4311181250657_900557870_n.jpg

This is typically what Northern NJ looks like:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/548544_4311185050752_1011136048_n.jpg

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/61115_4317167440308_289655722_n.jpg

(not the top of the telephone pole hanging from the wires)






Re: NSA and the exchanges

2012-10-31 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

On 10/31/2012 2:53 PM, Erik Soosalu wrote:

I'd assume the NSA and CSIS would be talking as needed.


Communications Security Establishment to NSA, but point taken.


Whether CSIS is actually monitoring in there is another question.  I'd
assume yes, but have never heard anything to confirm or deny.


-Original Message-
From: jim deleskie [mailto:deles...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:37 PM
To: andy lam
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NSA and the exchanges

If your talking the NSA I doubt anyone would tell you.  That being
said: it would mean the US gov't breaking Canadian law I suspect.  Now
in Canada it is quite possible that the Canadian Fed gov't monitors
traffic but I would also say no one would tell you because telling you
would also be in violation in wiretap laws.

Best advice, assume they do and hope they don't. :)

-jim

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, andy lam anwa...@yahoo.com wrote:

Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors

151 front street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the
US, but does it have the same influence at a building sitting in its
neighbor's soil?

There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it

together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?


feedback welcome.









Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread Blair Trosper
I guess I'll be the one to ask...what's going on over at Google?  Service
interruptions and front-end errors all over the place across what appears
to be all services, though Gmail seems to have bounced back up.  Google's
service disruption is about to bring Twitter's service to its knees as
people complain and try to figure out what's going on.

Blair Trosper
Updraft Networks  The North Texas GigaPOP


Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread John Adams
Hey now, we're doing fine over here at Twitter. :P

-j


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Blair Trosper 
blair.tros...@updraftnetworks.com wrote:

 I guess I'll be the one to ask...what's going on over at Google?  Service
 interruptions and front-end errors all over the place across what appears
 to be all services, though Gmail seems to have bounced back up.  Google's
 service disruption is about to bring Twitter's service to its knees as
 people complain and try to figure out what's going on.

 Blair Trosper
 Updraft Networks  The North Texas GigaPOP



Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread Blair Trosper
I was editorializing the quantity of tweets about the Google outage more so
than the quality of service of Twitter.  :)  Apologies.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:01 PM, John Adams j...@retina.net wrote:

 Hey now, we're doing fine over here at Twitter. :P

 -j


 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Blair Trosper 
 blair.tros...@updraftnetworks.com wrote:

 I guess I'll be the one to ask...what's going on over at Google?  Service
 interruptions and front-end errors all over the place across what appears
 to be all services, though Gmail seems to have bounced back up.  Google's
 service disruption is about to bring Twitter's service to its knees as
 people complain and try to figure out what's going on.

 Blair Trosper
 Updraft Networks  The North Texas GigaPOP





Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread Darius Jahandarie
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Blair Trosper
blair.tros...@updraftnetworks.com wrote:
 I guess I'll be the one to ask...what's going on over at Google?  Service
 interruptions and front-end errors all over the place across what appears
 to be all services, though Gmail seems to have bounced back up.  Google's

It's just the annual exercise to remind people how reliant they are on
a single company/infrastructure.


-- 
Darius Jahandarie



Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread Martin Hepworth
Same in uk as well just got service back


On Wednesday, 31 October 2012, Blair Trosper wrote:

 I was editorializing the quantity of tweets about the Google outage more so
 than the quality of service of Twitter.  :)  Apologies.

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:01 PM, John Adams j...@retina.net javascript:;
 wrote:

  Hey now, we're doing fine over here at Twitter. :P
 
  -j
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Blair Trosper 
  blair.tros...@updraftnetworks.com javascript:; wrote:
 
  I guess I'll be the one to ask...what's going on over at Google?
  Service
  interruptions and front-end errors all over the place across what
 appears
  to be all services, though Gmail seems to have bounced back up.
  Google's
  service disruption is about to bring Twitter's service to its knees as
  people complain and try to figure out what's going on.
 
  Blair Trosper
  Updraft Networks  The North Texas GigaPOP
 
 
 



-- 
-- 
Martin Hepworth, CISSP
Oxford, UK


Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 10/31/12 2:55 PM, Blair Trosper wrote:
 I guess I'll be the one to ask...what's going on over at Google?  Service
 interruptions and front-end errors all over the place across what appears
 to be all services, though Gmail seems to have bounced back up.  Google's
 service disruption is about to bring Twitter's service to its knees as
 people complain and try to figure out what's going on.
 
 Blair Trosper
 Updraft Networks  The North Texas GigaPOP
 

It's back working for me (after just a few minutes of brokenness), but I
have to say I really loved the out of order splash page I got when my
calendar went down:

Sorry, there seems to be a problem.  The service you're looking for is
temporarily unavailable.  Please try again in a few hours.  Thanks for
your patience.

Ahem, a few *hours*?





Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread Jeremy
I had my service go down and come back and when it came back i have
the new reply/compose features of the new gmail system

http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/30/googles-gmail-launches-new-compose-email-view-and-reply-experience-that-will-save-you-time/

It wasn't there before

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Michael Sinatra
mich...@rancid.berkeley.edu wrote:
 On 10/31/12 2:55 PM, Blair Trosper wrote:
 I guess I'll be the one to ask...what's going on over at Google?  Service
 interruptions and front-end errors all over the place across what appears
 to be all services, though Gmail seems to have bounced back up.  Google's
 service disruption is about to bring Twitter's service to its knees as
 people complain and try to figure out what's going on.

 Blair Trosper
 Updraft Networks  The North Texas GigaPOP


 It's back working for me (after just a few minutes of brokenness), but I
 have to say I really loved the out of order splash page I got when my
 calendar went down:

 Sorry, there seems to be a problem.  The service you're looking for is
 temporarily unavailable.  Please try again in a few hours.  Thanks for
 your patience.

 Ahem, a few *hours*?






Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Jeremy stealth...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had my service go down and come back and when it came back i have
 the new reply/compose features of the new gmail system

 http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/30/googles-gmail-launches-new-compose-email-view-and-reply-experience-that-will-save-you-time/


yeah, be careful with their new compose feature. i'm used to vim, so i
hit esc half way through an email which generally does nothing.
however, with this new feature, it closed the email. then it took it
longer to appear in drafts than it did to compose a new email. so, now
i've disabled it. i hope they don't force the issue until they give me
vim key bindings in my email editor :)



Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com said:
 yeah, be careful with their new compose feature. i'm used to vim, so i
 hit esc half way through an email which generally does nothing.
 however, with this new feature, it closed the email. then it took it
 longer to appear in drafts than it did to compose a new email. so, now
 i've disabled it. i hope they don't force the issue until they give me
 vim key bindings in my email editor :)

Have you tried the Firefox add-on that can turn input boxes into vi
mode?  Does that work with Gmail?
-- 
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Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread Bacon Zombie
And if you are a Chrome user have a look at Vimium [1]

[1] http://vimium.github.com/

On 31 October 2012 23:43, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
 Once upon a time, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com said:
 yeah, be careful with their new compose feature. i'm used to vim, so i
 hit esc half way through an email which generally does nothing.
 however, with this new feature, it closed the email. then it took it
 longer to appear in drafts than it did to compose a new email. so, now
 i've disabled it. i hope they don't force the issue until they give me
 vim key bindings in my email editor :)

 Have you tried the Firefox add-on that can turn input boxes into vi
 mode?  Does that work with Gmail?
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 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net
 Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
 I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.




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Re: Google burp

2012-10-31 Thread shawn wilson
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Bacon Zombie baconzom...@gmail.com wrote:
 And if you are a Chrome user have a look at Vimium [1]

 [1] http://vimium.github.com/


looks promising:
 i   enter insert mode -- all commands will be ignored until you
hit esc to exit
i might be able to handle this - i could never get vimperator

(sorry for hijacking the thread :) )



IPv6 Netowrk Device Numbering BP

2012-10-31 Thread Crist J. Clark
We're working out our dual stacked IPv4-IPv6 network. One
issue that recently has arisen is how to number the management
interfaces on the network devices themselves.

I have always been kind of partial to the idea of taking advantage
IPv6 features and letting hosts set their own addresses with EUI-64
interface numbers. For the management interface on a network device,
it's more like a normal host. I'd just as well tell the device its
prefix, and let it build the address itself. For IPv6, my opinion is
that I'm not even going to try to remember 128-bit addresses. It's
not something reasonable to expect humans to do. I'm going to depend
on some name-to-number service (DNS or a hosts file), and as far as
a computer goes, 2001:db8::80:abff:fe45:6789 is just as easy to
remember as, 2001:db8::12:34.

The other approach is to assign addresses. To me, that's more of
a hold over from IPv4 thinking, but there are legitimate reasons
I can think of. It's nice to have the IPv6 address tied to the
configuration rather than the hardware. If you need to drop in
a replacement device, you copy the configuration and no addresses
change. But OTOH, others might consider it a feature that the IP
follows the device rather than the role. And the real reason I think
people want to do it is that they want to be able to memorize IP
addresses of important hosts like these.

Another option would be to do both. Assign a fixed address and also
let it chose EUI-64. However, I see that leading to confusion. Not
sure what good it would do.

Is there anything like a standard, best practice for this (yet)?
What are other people doing and their reasons? Anyone have operational
experience with what works and what does not (and the what does
not is probably really of more interest)?
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