Re: IPv6 Netowrk Device Numbering BP

2012-11-05 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Karl Auer  wrote:
> - if you need to remember an IP address, you are doing it wrong

Because DNS always works flawlessly and you never need to remember IP
addresses, right ?

> - cultural sensitivity and plain good sense suggest that many words or
> combinations might not be a good idea. How do your female techs feel
> about "BAD:BABE"? Only marginally better than they feel about
> "B16:B00B:EEZ", probably. Your markets in India, with its 900 million
> Hindus, might take a dim view of "DEAD:BEEF". Etc.

I think you're looking for problems where there are none. I see
nothing wrong with BAD:BABE or with DEAD:BEEF. Your thinking suggests
that there are only good babes and live beef, which is wrong on so
many levels. Positive discrimination is as bad as discrimination and
it creates more problems than it solves.

In India you can have beef steak at restaurants, so I see no problem
with the term.

>
> - clever addresses are guessable addresses for scanners, and highly
> identifiable in data as probably attached to high-value targets

What is a clever IP address ?



Re: Looking for recommendation on 10G Ethernet switch

2012-11-05 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Eric Germann  wrote:
> Colleagues,
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation on a smallish 10G Ethernet switch for a
> small virtualization/SAN implementation (4-5 hosts, 2 SAN boxes) over
> iSCSI with some legacy boxes on GigE.
>
> Preferably
>
> - 8-16 10G ports
> - several GigE ports for legacy GigE hosts or cross connect to a legacy
> GigE  switch
> - preferably not a large chassis based solution with blades
>
> The hosts aren't going to be driving full line rate, nor the SAN boxes
> providing full line rate, but their offered loads will definitely exceed
> 1Gbps.   Assessing whether it is better to go 10G now vs. multi-pathing
> with quad GigE cards.  Trying to find the best solution for > 1G on a
> trunk and < $50K per box.

You can look ar Brocade TurboIron 24. It has 24 ports of 1/10G
depending on the SFP you put in.



Re: Looking for recommendation on 10G Ethernet switch

2012-11-05 Thread Gopi
ARISTA 7xxx series would be one of the options to consider


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Eugeniu Patrascu  wrote:

>On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Eric Germann  wrote:
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> I'm looking for a recommendation on a smallish 10G Ethernet switch for a
>> small virtualization/SAN implementation (4-5 hosts, 2 SAN boxes) over
>> iSCSI with some legacy boxes on GigE.
>>
>> Preferably
>>
>> - 8-16 10G ports
>> - several GigE ports for legacy GigE hosts or cross connect to a legacy
>> GigE  switch
>> - preferably not a large chassis based solution with blades
>>
>> The hosts aren't going to be driving full line rate, nor the SAN boxes
>> providing full line rate, but their offered loads will definitely exceed
>> 1Gbps.   Assessing whether it is better to go 10G now vs. multi-pathing
>> with quad GigE cards.  Trying to find the best solution for > 1G on a
>> trunk and < $50K per box.
>
>You can look ar Brocade TurboIron 24. It has 24 ports of 1/10G
>depending on the SFP you put in.
>


Re: IPv6 Netowrk Device Numbering BP

2012-11-05 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 10:07 +0200, Eugeniu Patrascu wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Karl Auer  wrote:
> > - if you need to remember an IP address, you are doing it wrong
> Because DNS always works flawlessly and you never need to remember IP
> addresses, right ?

If you are NOT memorising IP addresses and NOT wasting time on fragile
encodings buried in your IP addresses, then your addressing is more
robust and more flexible. So you occasionally have a problem with
whatever system maps your IP addresses to human-usable entities  - so
what? You can't memorise ALL your addresses, so you have that problem
anyway. And let's not forget your (possibly emergency) replacement -
sure, *you* have lots of addresses memorised, but what about other
people? You need a suitable mapping system *anyway*.
 
> I think you're looking for problems where there are none. I see
> nothing wrong with BAD:BABE or with DEAD:BEEF. Your thinking suggests
> that there are only good babes and live beef, which is wrong on so
> many levels. Positive discrimination is as bad as discrimination and
> it creates more problems than it solves.

*You* don't see a problem, so there is no problem? I *personally* have
no problem with either example, but I can see how others might, and how
others might have a problem with constructs similar in nature to these
ones. I think it is likely that others would find those sorts of things
objectionable, I see no benefit to using them, and I see several
technical and non-technical disadvantages to using them - so my
recommendation is not to use them.

As to "my thinking", your comments on that are confused. I don't
recommend crafting words, regardless of what words they are. How you got
from one OP-supplied example and one well-known example to "my thinking"
and thence to positive discrimination is a mystery to me.

The OP asked for reasons why embedding wordiness in IPv6 addresses might
not be a good idea. I gave several reasons, some technical, some not.
You've attacked two non-technical ones, with counterarguments that
amount to "is not!".

> > - clever addresses are guessable addresses for scanners, and highly
> > identifiable in data as probably attached to high-value targets
> What is a clever IP address ?

One that has obviously been constructed by a human - such as one
containing readable words, obvious numeric patterns and the like.

Regards, K.

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Re: Looking for recommendation on 10G Ethernet switch

2012-11-05 Thread Darius Seroka
The Juniper ex4500/4550 could work, small chassis, can be made part of a
virtual chassis. Works well in an enterprise setup but can cause
configuration headaches if within a service provider environment where
vlans need to be translated.

Darius

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Eric Germann  wrote:

> Colleagues,
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation on a smallish 10G Ethernet switch for a
> small virtualization/SAN implementation (4-5 hosts, 2 SAN boxes) over
> iSCSI with some legacy boxes on GigE.
>
> Preferably
>
> - 8-16 10G ports
> - several GigE ports for legacy GigE hosts or cross connect to a legacy
> GigE  switch
> - preferably not a large chassis based solution with blades
>
> The hosts aren't going to be driving full line rate, nor the SAN boxes
> providing full line rate, but their offered loads will definitely exceed
> 1Gbps.   Assessing whether it is better to go 10G now vs. multi-pathing
> with quad GigE cards.  Trying to find the best solution for > 1G on a
> trunk and < $50K per box.
>
> Any recommendations appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> EKG
>
>
>


Operational Experience with SSR

2012-11-05 Thread Victor Kuarsingh
All,

I was looking for anyone who has operational experience with the SSR
platform used as a SGW and/or PGW function in mobile environment.

Please contact me off-list.

Thanks,

Victor Kuarsingh




Re: NJ impact

2012-11-05 Thread Jeroen van Aart

On 10/31/2012 12:24 PM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:

I had to summarize this recently for a news article I was interviewed for, so I 
figured I forward:

>

Of our three datacenters, this is what we saw:

Parsippany 1 (OCT) - The worst we saw here was several sub-second power hits. 
UPS's held without problem, and we did not transfer to generator at all yet.

Parsippany 2 (WBR) - Transferred to generator at about 7:55 PM EST Monday as a 
precautionary measure due to ongoing utility power hits. However, shortly after 
transfer, utility voltage went to 0 on all phases; around 10p power returned, 
but abnormally high (seeing about 550 volts on 480 volt bus). We retransferred 
last night as utility voltage settled down.

Cedar Knolls 1 (MMU) - Briefly transferred to generator around 7:10, then back 
to utility. We then force transferred to generator around 8pm and stayed until 
this morning. Returned to utility and all systems are normal.


I would be interested to know how the power outages due to the storm 
have negatively affected air pollution and the smog problem in the area. 
Due to generators burning huge amounts of diesel, generators which 
undoubtedly have no meaningful air pollution control to speak of.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/technology/data-centers-waste-vast-amounts-of-energy-belying-industry-image.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

"Most data centers, by design, consume vast amounts of energy in an 
incongruously wasteful manner, interviews and documents show. Online 
companies typically run their facilities at maximum capacity around the 
clock, whatever the demand. As a result, data centers can waste 90 
percent or more of the electricity they pull off the grid, The Times found.


To guard against a power failure, they further rely on banks of 
generators that emit diesel exhaust. The pollution from data centers has 
increasingly been cited by the authorities for violating clean air 
regulations, documents show. In Silicon Valley, many data centers appear 
on the state government’s Toxic Air Contaminant Inventory, a roster of 
the area’s top stationary diesel polluters."



Greetings,
Jeroen

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dhcpy6d - a MAC address aware DHCPv6 server

2012-11-05 Thread Henri Wahl
Hello World,
like other people we had the problem that existing DHCPv6 servers do not
evaluate the MAC address of clients, following RFC 3315. The IPv4
clients already are managed via their MAC addresses so we wanted to use
these identifiers for IPv6 too for our dualstack network.

At the end we had to write our own DHCPv6 server dhcpy6d which I want to
present here to a larger audience. It runs on Linux, tested on Debian
and CentOS. It gets the client MAC addresses from neighbor cache by
calling "ip -6 neigh" and caches them itself, allowing to access the
already working MAC-based IPv4 infrastructure. This obviously only works
on the local subnet but might be worked around with several servers
being connected via database storage of clients and leases.

Features are:
- identifies clients by MAC address, DUID or hostname
- generates addresses randomly, by MAC address, by range or by given ID
- filters clients by MAC, DUID or hostname
- assignes more than one address per client
- allows to organize clients in different classes
- stores leases in MySQL or SQLite database
- client information can be retrieved from database or textfile
- dynamically updates DNS (Bind)

We run it with ~500 clients without problems. I am interested if it
would run in larger environments too. If not, how to make it running.
Bugs and ideas how to improve it are welcome too.

Packages are not yet available but the Python code should run as is.

See further details at http://dhcpy6d.ifw-dresden.de

Best regards
Henri Wahl

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Re: dhcpy6d - a MAC address aware DHCPv6 server

2012-11-05 Thread bmanning
 cool.  this is the fifth version of a DHCP server modified to work
 with IPv4 and IPv6 in accord with the DHCP specs.

 a feature request...  some sites run IVI,  and so the have a MAC and
 and v6 address and need to be dynamically assigned a v4 address.  My crude
 attempt uses the last 48bits of the v6 address asa proxy MAC.  It works
 ok in my small network.  It might be useful in larger nets that run IVI
 or carrier-grade NAT ...  

/bill


On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 09:14:54AM +0100, Henri Wahl wrote:
> Hello World,
> like other people we had the problem that existing DHCPv6 servers do not
> evaluate the MAC address of clients, following RFC 3315. The IPv4
> clients already are managed via their MAC addresses so we wanted to use
> these identifiers for IPv6 too for our dualstack network.
> 
> At the end we had to write our own DHCPv6 server dhcpy6d which I want to
> present here to a larger audience. It runs on Linux, tested on Debian
> and CentOS. It gets the client MAC addresses from neighbor cache by
> calling "ip -6 neigh" and caches them itself, allowing to access the
> already working MAC-based IPv4 infrastructure. This obviously only works
> on the local subnet but might be worked around with several servers
> being connected via database storage of clients and leases.
> 
> Features are:
> - identifies clients by MAC address, DUID or hostname
> - generates addresses randomly, by MAC address, by range or by given ID
> - filters clients by MAC, DUID or hostname
> - assignes more than one address per client
> - allows to organize clients in different classes
> - stores leases in MySQL or SQLite database
> - client information can be retrieved from database or textfile
> - dynamically updates DNS (Bind)
> 
> We run it with ~500 clients without problems. I am interested if it
> would run in larger environments too. If not, how to make it running.
> Bugs and ideas how to improve it are welcome too.
> 
> Packages are not yet available but the Python code should run as is.
> 
> See further details at http://dhcpy6d.ifw-dresden.de
> 
> Best regards
> Henri Wahl
> 
> -- 
> Henri Wahl
> 
> IT Department
> Leibniz-Institut f|r Festkvrper- u.
> Werkstoffforschung Dresden
> 
> tel. (03 51) 46 59 - 797
> email: h.w...@ifw-dresden.de
> http://www.ifw-dresden.de
> 
> Nagios status monitor for your desktop:
> http://nagstamon.ifw-dresden.de
> 
> IFW Dresden e.V., Helmholtzstra_e 20, D-01069 Dresden
> VR Dresden Nr. 1369
> Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Ludwig Schultz, Dr. h.c. Dipl.-Finw. Rolf Pfrengle
> 





Re: IPv6 Netowrk Device Numbering BP

2012-11-05 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:44:14 -0500, Randy said:
>
> Veering off this topic's course, Is there any issue with addresses like
> this ?
> 2001:470:1f00:1aa:abad:babe:8:beef < I have a bunch of these type
> 'addresses' configured for my various machines.
>
> I make it a point to come up with some sort of 'hex' speak address, what
> are peoples opinions on this?

Google for "microsoft hyperv hex constant".  Show the results to whoever
handles your PR.  Follow their advice.


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Re: Looking for recommendation on 10G Ethernet switch

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Nowak
Dell Force10 S4810 is a decent ToR switch: 48 dual-speed 1/10GbE (SFP+) ports 
and four 40GbE (QSFP+) uplinks

Peter

> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Eric Germann  wrote:
> 
>> Colleagues,
>> 
>> I'm looking for a recommendation on a smallish 10G Ethernet switch for a
>> small virtualization/SAN implementation (4-5 hosts, 2 SAN boxes) over
>> iSCSI with some legacy boxes on GigE.
>> 
>> Preferably
>> 
>> - 8-16 10G ports
>> - several GigE ports for legacy GigE hosts or cross connect to a legacy
>> GigE  switch
>> - preferably not a large chassis based solution with blades
>> 
>> The hosts aren't going to be driving full line rate, nor the SAN boxes
>> providing full line rate, but their offered loads will definitely exceed
>> 1Gbps.   Assessing whether it is better to go 10G now vs. multi-pathing
>> with quad GigE cards.  Trying to find the best solution for > 1G on a
>> trunk and < $50K per box.
>> 
>> Any recommendations appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> EKG
>> 
>> 
>> 





RE: NSA and the exchanges

2012-11-05 Thread Keith Medcalf

And don't forget about the NSA's "Operation Backhoe".  What more convenient way 
of installing a tap than cutting the fibre, then installing a passive tap while 
repairs are in progress ...

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> From: John Adams [mailto:j...@retina.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 31 October, 2012 12:38
> To: andy lam
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: NSA and the exchanges
>
> Allegedly? No, definately.
>
> https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying
>
> https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/att/presskit/ATT_onepager.pdf
>
>
>
> -j
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM, andy lam  wrote:
>
> > Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors 151
> > front street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the US,
> > but does it have the same influence at a building sitting in its neighbor's
> > soil?
> >
> > There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it
> > together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?
> >
> >
> > feedback welcome.
> >






RE: NSA and the exchanges

2012-11-05 Thread Keith Medcalf

That would be the CSE, not CSIS ...

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> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Soosalu [mailto:erik.soos...@calyxinc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 31 October, 2012 12:53
> To: jim deleskie; andy lam
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: NSA and the exchanges
>
> I'd assume the NSA and CSIS would be talking as needed.
>
> Whether CSIS is actually monitoring in there is another question.  I'd
> assume yes, but have never heard anything to confirm or deny.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jim deleskie [mailto:deles...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:37 PM
> To: andy lam
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: NSA and the exchanges
>
> If your talking "the NSA" I doubt anyone would tell you.  That being
> said: it would mean the US gov't breaking Canadian law I suspect.  Now
> in Canada it is quite possible that the Canadian Fed gov't monitors
> traffic but I would also say no one would tell you because telling you
> would also be in violation in wiretap laws.
>
> Best advice, assume they do and hope they don't. :)
>
> -jim
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, andy lam  wrote:
> > Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors
> 151 front street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the
> US, but does it have the same influence at a building sitting in its
> neighbor's soil?
> >
> > There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it
> together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?
> >
> >
> > feedback welcome.
>
>