www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Darren Pilgrim
The hostname www.eftps.gov has both A and  records, but the site is 
only reachable via IPv4.  Worse, the IPv6 connectivity is broken in such 
a way that Firefox and Internet Explorer do not fall back to IPv4. 
Tracing is broken for both protocols.  The 10-net addresss in the IPv4 
path were cute.


Calling their technical support was an exercise in futility.  Supposedly 
they forwarded messages on to the right people; but the site is still 
broken after over a week's wait.  If someone knows the admins behind the 
EFTPS website and can forward this to them, the accounting firm for 
which I work would appreciate it.


Thanks,



RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

2012-12-18 Thread Brandon Lehmann
In any event, I'm pretty sure that I'd rather get hit with tampering with
evidence versus them retrieving data that may incriminate me. I believe
this may be a the lesser of two evils game.


 -Original Message-
 From: Kyle Creyts [mailto:kyle.cre...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 2:52 PM
 To: Jeroen van Aart
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please
 help if you can.
 
 In most jurisdictions, wouldn't using a de-gaussing ring in the door
 frame to wipe any equipment being removed constitute tampering with
 evidence or interfering with an investigation if the authority in
 question is in possession of a warrant/subpoena?
 
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net
 wrote:
 
  On 11/30/2012 02:02 PM, Naslund, Steve wrote:
 
  OK, there must be a lot more paranoid people out there than I
 thought
 
 
   for awhile?  I am sure he will let you out to go to the bank, get
  your
  stuff, and leave town.  I think you have seen way to many movies.
 
 
   So if the cops show up at his door tomorrow and say Here's all your
  stuff back, there was no evidence of a crime., you are OK with this
  guys keeping the defense fund?
 
 
  I for one vote for installing a de-gauging ring in your door frame.
  any removal of equipment you don't approve of will be wiped. That and
  encryption possibly combined with hiding the real OS (truecrypt can
  do that).
 
  Greetings,
  Jeroen
 
  --
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  Date: Monday, December 17, 2012 17:46:48 UTC
  Location: central East Pacific Rise
  Latitude: -3.9682; Longitude: -104.0375
  Depth: 15.70 km
 
 
 
 
 --
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Re: Advisory — D-root is changing its IPv4 address on the 3rd of January.

2012-12-18 Thread ITechGeek
For anyone who is worried that the root server change might impact them,
they can go to http://www.iana.org/domains/root/files and download the root
zone file.  It probably won't need to be updated again until the next round
of gTLDs is approved.

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On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote:

 Concomittant wirh reduced risk assessment capability?


 Sent from Samsung Mobile

  Original message 
 From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
 Date:
 To: Lynda shr...@deaddrop.org
 Cc: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Advisory — D-root is changing its IPv4 address on the 3rd of
 January.




RE: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Dennis Burgess
I tried to this a month ago, no luck :( i.e. nothing back from them, just goes 
into no answer e-mail space! 

Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of Learn RouterOS- Second 
Edition 
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support 
Services   
 
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net - Skype: 
linktechs 
 -- Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com - 900Mhz - LTE - 3G - 
3.65 - TV Whitespace  



-Original Message-
From: Darren Pilgrim [mailto:na...@bitfreak.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:09 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: www.eftps.gov contact

The hostname www.eftps.gov has both A and  records, but the site is only 
reachable via IPv4.  Worse, the IPv6 connectivity is broken in such a way that 
Firefox and Internet Explorer do not fall back to IPv4. 
Tracing is broken for both protocols.  The 10-net addresss in the IPv4 path 
were cute.

Calling their technical support was an exercise in futility.  Supposedly they 
forwarded messages on to the right people; but the site is still broken after 
over a week's wait.  If someone knows the admins behind the EFTPS website and 
can forward this to them, the accounting firm for which I work would appreciate 
it.

Thanks,




Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
if only some us-gov folks read this mailing list...
maybe someone form NIST could aim the right question to the right
eftps.gov people?
you'd think helping the taxman would be appreciated.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dennis Burgess
dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
 I tried to this a month ago, no luck :( i.e. nothing back from them, just 
 goes into no answer e-mail space!

 Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of Learn RouterOS- Second 
 Edition
  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
  Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net - Skype: linktechs
  -- Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com - 900Mhz - LTE - 3G 
 - 3.65 - TV Whitespace



 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Pilgrim [mailto:na...@bitfreak.org]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:09 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: www.eftps.gov contact

 The hostname www.eftps.gov has both A and  records, but the site is only 
 reachable via IPv4.  Worse, the IPv6 connectivity is broken in such a way 
 that Firefox and Internet Explorer do not fall back to IPv4.
 Tracing is broken for both protocols.  The 10-net addresss in the IPv4 path 
 were cute.

 Calling their technical support was an exercise in futility.  Supposedly they 
 forwarded messages on to the right people; but the site is still broken after 
 over a week's wait.  If someone knows the admins behind the EFTPS website and 
 can forward this to them, the accounting firm for which I work would 
 appreciate it.

 Thanks,





Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 if only some us-gov folks read this mailing list...
 maybe someone form NIST could aim the right question to the right
 eftps.gov people?
 you'd think helping the taxman would be appreciated.


it's probably also fair to point out that ... it seems to be working.
( and A)

 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dennis Burgess
 dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
 I tried to this a month ago, no luck :( i.e. nothing back from them, just 
 goes into no answer e-mail space!

 Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of Learn RouterOS- Second 
 Edition
  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
  Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net - Skype: linktechs
  -- Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com - 900Mhz - LTE - 
 3G - 3.65 - TV Whitespace



 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Pilgrim [mailto:na...@bitfreak.org]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:09 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: www.eftps.gov contact

 The hostname www.eftps.gov has both A and  records, but the site is only 
 reachable via IPv4.  Worse, the IPv6 connectivity is broken in such a way 
 that Firefox and Internet Explorer do not fall back to IPv4.
 Tracing is broken for both protocols.  The 10-net addresss in the IPv4 path 
 were cute.

 Calling their technical support was an exercise in futility.  Supposedly 
 they forwarded messages on to the right people; but the site is still broken 
 after over a week's wait.  If someone knows the admins behind the EFTPS 
 website and can forward this to them, the accounting firm for which I work 
 would appreciate it.

 Thanks,





Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Morrow
 morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 if only some us-gov folks read this mailing list...
 maybe someone form NIST could aim the right question to the right
 eftps.gov people?
 you'd think helping the taxman would be appreciated.


 it's probably also fair to point out that ... it seems to be working.
 ( and A)

and traceroute/traceroute6 seems to work to the prem...

 6  cr1.attga.ip.att.net (12.122.1.173)  79.126 ms  71.722 ms  74.646 ms
 7  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.28.174)  74.001 ms  74.127 ms  74.198 ms
 8  cr1.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.1.209)  75.261 ms  75.305 ms  75.405 ms
 9  cr1.phmaz.ip.att.net (12.122.28.182)  73.070 ms  73.381 ms  73.408 ms
10  12.123.206.173 (12.123.206.173)  71.586 ms  70.289 ms  70.048 ms
11  12.87.83.6 (12.87.83.6)  71.226 ms  71.290 ms  71.526 ms
12  * * *

 6  2600:803:95f::d (2600:803:95f::d)  4.618 ms  4.951 ms *
 7  2600:805:51f::12 (2600:805:51f::12)  49.616 ms  49.726 ms  49.672 ms
 8  2600:805:51f::12 (2600:805:51f::12)  48.548 ms  48.561 ms  48.75 ms
 9  2620:10f:400e:1::6 (2620:10f:400e:1::6)  50 ms  53.366 ms  50.704 ms
10  * * *

so, what's broken?

 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dennis Burgess
 dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
 I tried to this a month ago, no luck :( i.e. nothing back from them, just 
 goes into no answer e-mail space!

 Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of Learn RouterOS- 
 Second Edition
  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
  Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net - Skype: linktechs
  -- Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com - 900Mhz - LTE - 
 3G - 3.65 - TV Whitespace



 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Pilgrim [mailto:na...@bitfreak.org]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:09 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: www.eftps.gov contact

 The hostname www.eftps.gov has both A and  records, but the site is 
 only reachable via IPv4.  Worse, the IPv6 connectivity is broken in such a 
 way that Firefox and Internet Explorer do not fall back to IPv4.
 Tracing is broken for both protocols.  The 10-net addresss in the IPv4 path 
 were cute.

 Calling their technical support was an exercise in futility.  Supposedly 
 they forwarded messages on to the right people; but the site is still 
 broken after over a week's wait.  If someone knows the admins behind the 
 EFTPS website and can forward this to them, the accounting firm for which I 
 work would appreciate it.

 Thanks,





Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Darren Pilgrim

On 2012-12-18 07:36, Christopher Morrow wrote:

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Christopher Morrow

it's probably also fair to point out that ... it seems to be working.
( and A)


so, what's broken?


The end-user machines I tested on are behind 6in4 tunnels (MTU 1480). 
They open the TCP connection, but never load a page.  They don't 
complete the HTTPS SSL handshake.  On port 80, they send the HTTP 
request, but never get a response to GET /.




Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Arturo Servin

It works for me (http)

Cannot ping, so maybe they filtered the whole ICMPv6 and you have a MTU
problem. But that is only a guessing.

as

On 18/12/2012 13:36, Christopher Morrow wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Christopher Morrow
 morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Morrow
 morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 if only some us-gov folks read this mailing list...
 maybe someone form NIST could aim the right question to the right
 eftps.gov people?
 you'd think helping the taxman would be appreciated.


 it's probably also fair to point out that ... it seems to be working.
 ( and A)
 
 and traceroute/traceroute6 seems to work to the prem...
 
  6  cr1.attga.ip.att.net (12.122.1.173)  79.126 ms  71.722 ms  74.646 ms
  7  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.28.174)  74.001 ms  74.127 ms  74.198 ms
  8  cr1.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.1.209)  75.261 ms  75.305 ms  75.405 ms
  9  cr1.phmaz.ip.att.net (12.122.28.182)  73.070 ms  73.381 ms  73.408 ms
 10  12.123.206.173 (12.123.206.173)  71.586 ms  70.289 ms  70.048 ms
 11  12.87.83.6 (12.87.83.6)  71.226 ms  71.290 ms  71.526 ms
 12  * * *
 
  6  2600:803:95f::d (2600:803:95f::d)  4.618 ms  4.951 ms *
  7  2600:805:51f::12 (2600:805:51f::12)  49.616 ms  49.726 ms  49.672 ms
  8  2600:805:51f::12 (2600:805:51f::12)  48.548 ms  48.561 ms  48.75 ms
  9  2620:10f:400e:1::6 (2620:10f:400e:1::6)  50 ms  53.366 ms  50.704 ms
 10  * * *
 
 so, what's broken?
 
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dennis Burgess
 dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
 I tried to this a month ago, no luck :( i.e. nothing back from them, just 
 goes into no answer e-mail space!

 Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of Learn RouterOS- 
 Second Edition
  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
  Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net - Skype: linktechs
  -- Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com - 900Mhz - LTE - 
 3G - 3.65 - TV Whitespace



 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Pilgrim [mailto:na...@bitfreak.org]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:09 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: www.eftps.gov contact

 The hostname www.eftps.gov has both A and  records, but the site is 
 only reachable via IPv4.  Worse, the IPv6 connectivity is broken in such a 
 way that Firefox and Internet Explorer do not fall back to IPv4.
 Tracing is broken for both protocols.  The 10-net addresss in the IPv4 
 path were cute.

 Calling their technical support was an exercise in futility.  Supposedly 
 they forwarded messages on to the right people; but the site is still 
 broken after over a week's wait.  If someone knows the admins behind the 
 EFTPS website and can forward this to them, the accounting firm for which 
 I work would appreciate it.

 Thanks,





Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Darren Pilgrim na...@bitfreak.org wrote:
 On 2012-12-18 07:36, Christopher Morrow wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Christopher Morrow

 it's probably also fair to point out that ... it seems to be working.
 ( and A)


 so, what's broken?


 The end-user machines I tested on are behind 6in4 tunnels (MTU 1480). They
 open the TCP connection, but never load a page.  They don't complete the
 HTTPS SSL handshake.  On port 80, they send the HTTP request, but never get
 a response to GET /.

see, now we're getting information that FDC/IRS could actually use! :)
This looks like an MTU issue then?



Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Darren Pilgrim

On 2012-12-18 07:52, Christopher Morrow wrote:

see, now we're getting information that FDC/IRS could actually use!
:) This looks like an MTU issue then?


I believe so.




Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Darren Pilgrim na...@bitfreak.org wrote:
 On 2012-12-18 07:52, Christopher Morrow wrote:

 see, now we're getting information that FDC/IRS could actually use!
 :) This looks like an MTU issue then?


 I believe so.

so, a suggestion to eftps.gov/irs/fdc is to simply clamp MSS on their
servers, no?



Re: Advisory — D-root is changing its IPv4 address on the 3rd of January.

2012-12-18 Thread David Conrad
On Dec 17, 2012, at 11:30 PM, ITechGeek i...@itechgeek.com wrote:
 For anyone who is worried that the root server change might impact them,
 they can go to http://www.iana.org/domains/root/files and download the root
 zone file.  It probably won't need to be updated again until the next round
 of gTLDs is approved.

Err, no.

The root zone changes twice a day and its contents change quite frequently as 
TLD managers update their name servers, do key rollovers, etc.

If you're going to copy the root zone, I'd recommend using a zone transfer from 
the name servers described in http://dns.icann.org/services/axfr/ or, at the 
very least, set up a cron job to pull the root zone twice a day.

WRT the root _hints_ change, setting up a cron job to pull, verify, and install 
the root hints file periodically (once a month should probably be sufficient) 
would probably be a good idea.

Regards,
-drc




Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Darren Pilgrim

On 2012-12-18 08:08, Christopher Morrow wrote:

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Darren Pilgrimna...@bitfreak.org  wrote:

On 2012-12-18 07:52, Christopher Morrow wrote:


see, now we're getting information that FDC/IRS could actually use!
:) This looks like an MTU issue then?



I believe so.


so, a suggestion to eftps.gov/irs/fdc is to simply clamp MSS on their
servers, no?


I might instead suggest a read of RFC 4890. :)



Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Darren Pilgrim na...@bitfreak.org wrote:
 4890

it might not be their (eftps.gov's) fault though... but sure.



REMINDER: Include as much detail as you have on problem reports (was eftps.gov)

2012-12-18 Thread Jay Ashworth
Aside from the fact that it helps unrelated people aid you in diagnosing
the problem, there's another, more practical reason to do it:

When you do, problems you're having will sometimes magically disappear,
because someone who a) is in a position to fix it, but b) is not in a position
to *talk about it* will see the report, do a facepalm, and twist the proper
knob to make it go away.

While this isn't as optimal in the global sense as a full dialogue on the
problem would be, it's a helluva lot better than it still doesn't work,
a week later.  And the shorter the thread, the higher the odds this might
happen.  One posting is optimal. :-)

Just a thought.

Cheers,
-- jr 'Happy Chriskwanzukkah, and a Cool Yule' a
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA   #natog  +1 727 647 1274



Re: Fiber only in DataCenters?

2012-12-18 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.net

 Are there data centers out there that are fiber only? That is to say
 that the cross connects are fiber only and no copper cross connects
 are available?

I have not personally run across any DCs that do not permit copper Xcon,
but I am young, and not well-travelled.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA   #natog  +1 727 647 1274



Simple/best tool to verify PMTUD?

2012-12-18 Thread Christopher J. Pilkington
I'm looking for a simple tool to verify PMTUD is usable along a
particular path. Ideally this tool would be cross-platform, or run on
Linux or Windows.

I've done some testing of my own by hand, but hoping a tool would help
the admin on the other side be able to test for themselves.



Re: Simple/best tool to verify PMTUD?

2012-12-18 Thread Darius Jahandarie
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Christopher J. Pilkington c...@0x1.net 
wrote:
 I'm looking for a simple tool to verify PMTUD is usable along a
 particular path. Ideally this tool would be cross-platform, or run on
 Linux or Windows.

tracepath (Linux), mturoute (Windows)


-- 
Darius Jahandarie



Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 
cal9jlabwe_e+vfzwybtbrp50eicbvq7z3xuq3qwf3fhmidl...@mail.gmail.com, 
Christopher Morrow
 writes:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Darren Pilgrim na...@bitfreak.org wrote:
  4890
 
 it might not be their (eftps.gov's) fault though... but sure.

If you run a server you should be expecting PTB for both IPv4 and
IPv6.  If you have broken equipement in front of the server you can
set IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU to 1 on IPv6 sockets.  There is no excuse to
have connections broken due to PMTUD.

-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org



Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:

 In message 
 cal9jlabwe_e+vfzwybtbrp50eicbvq7z3xuq3qwf3fhmidl...@mail.gmail.com, 
 Christopher Morrow
  writes:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Darren Pilgrim na...@bitfreak.org wrote:
  4890

 it might not be their (eftps.gov's) fault though... but sure.

 If you run a server you should be expecting PTB for both IPv4 and
 IPv6.  If you have broken equipement in front of the server you can
 set IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU to 1 on IPv6 sockets.  There is no excuse to
 have connections broken due to PMTUD.

sure there is! my isp filters icmp



Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 
CAL9jLaY5=ftw8qfhypqh91okh2p90hu-xaoqjk57ihssrzu...@mail.gmail.com, 
Christopher Morrow writes:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
 
  In message 
  cal9jlabwe_e+vfzwybtbrp50eicbvq7z3xuq3qwf3fhmidl...@mail.gmail.com, 
  Christopher Morrow
   writes:
  On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Darren Pilgrim na...@bitfreak.org 
  wrote:
   4890
 
  it might not be their (eftps.gov's) fault though... but sure.
 
  If you run a server you should be expecting PTB for both IPv4 and
  IPv6.  If you have broken equipement in front of the server you can
  set IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU to 1 on IPv6 sockets.  There is no excuse to
  have connections broken due to PMTUD.
 
 sure there is! my isp filters icmp

You don't have a ISP then.  You have a fraudster.

Mark
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org



Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Owen DeLong

On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:22 , Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
 
 In message 
 cal9jlabwe_e+vfzwybtbrp50eicbvq7z3xuq3qwf3fhmidl...@mail.gmail.com, 
 Christopher Morrow
 writes:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Darren Pilgrim na...@bitfreak.org wrote:
 4890
 
 it might not be their (eftps.gov's) fault though... but sure.
 
 If you run a server you should be expecting PTB for both IPv4 and
 IPv6.  If you have broken equipement in front of the server you can
 set IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU to 1 on IPv6 sockets.  There is no excuse to
 have connections broken due to PMTUD.
 
 sure there is! my isp filters icmp

Get a better ISP.

Owen




Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:

 On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:22 , Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:

 In message 
 cal9jlabwe_e+vfzwybtbrp50eicbvq7z3xuq3qwf3fhmidl...@mail.gmail.com, 
 Christopher Morrow
 writes:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Darren Pilgrim na...@bitfreak.org 
 wrote:
 4890

 it might not be their (eftps.gov's) fault though... but sure.

 If you run a server you should be expecting PTB for both IPv4 and
 IPv6.  If you have broken equipement in front of the server you can
 set IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU to 1 on IPv6 sockets.  There is no excuse to
 have connections broken due to PMTUD.

 sure there is! my isp filters icmp

 Get a better ISP.

both of you crack me up.



Re: www.eftps.gov contact

2012-12-18 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 
CAL9jLaZMV9yo7Yzsydcj7U0o+DjHACEJ7z0ypN_00f+iM=j...@mail.gmail.com, 
Christopher Morrow writes:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
 
  On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:22 , Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
 
  In message 
  cal9jlabwe_e+vfzwybtbrp50eicbvq7z3xuq3qwf3fhmidl...@mail.gmail.com, 
  Christopher Morrow
  writes:
  On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Darren Pilgrim na...@bitfreak.org 
  wrote:
  4890
 
  it might not be their (eftps.gov's) fault though... but sure.
 
  If you run a server you should be expecting PTB for both IPv4 and
  IPv6.  If you have broken equipement in front of the server you can
  set IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU to 1 on IPv6 sockets.  There is no excuse to
  have connections broken due to PMTUD.
 
  sure there is! my isp filters icmp
 
  Get a better ISP.
 
 both of you crack me up.

Setting IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU on a IPv6 socket is a couple of lines of
code in the http server.  Been there, done that.  If you can't do
that then set the interface MTU to 1280.  I repeat there is no
excuse to have connection broken due to PMTU issues.  A compentent
sys admin can work around upstream problems.

Mark
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org



Re: 32-bit ASes at routeviews

2012-12-18 Thread John Kemp
On 12/16/12 2:48 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
 Looking for 32-bit AS numbers, I get some strange results from routeviews:

 route-viewssh ip bgp regexp _23456_
 BGP table version is 2393809200, local router ID is 128.223.51.103
 Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid,  best, i - 
 internal,
   r RIB-failure, S Stale
 Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete

Network  Next HopMetric LocPrf Weight Path
 *  31.177.16.0/22   128.223.253.10 0 3582 3701 3356 
 23456 3.1043 i
 *  46.29.72.0/21129.250.0.11   285 0 2914 12389 12389 
 12389 12389 23456 3.627 i
 *  46.243.96.0/21   154.11.11.1130 0 852 174 39704 
 39704 23456 3.787 i
 *  91.208.62.0/24   154.11.11.1130 0 852 174 39704 
 39704 23456 3.787 i
 *  91.217.87.0/24   194.85.40.15   0 3267 174 23456 
 3.661 i
 *  91.230.169.0/24  208.51.134.254   13905 0 3549 29152 29152 
 29152 29152 23456 23456 23456 23456 3.1426 i
 *  91.238.8.0/24194.85.40.15   0 3267 8220 23456 
 3.2040 i
 *  111.235.148.0/22 194.85.40.15   0 3267 9498 9730 
 23456 i
 *  141.0.176.0/21   129.250.0.11   285 0 2914 12389 12389 
 12389 12389 23456 3.627 i

 Unless I missed something, AS 23456 is supposed to show up as a stand-in for 
 32-bit ASNs on 16-bit BGP implementations, not in _addition_ to 32-bit ASNs. 
 So the penultimate line would make sense if the other lines weren't there and 
 the others don't make sense period.

 Maybe a bug in the IOS they're running?

 route-viewssh ver
 Cisco IOS Software, 7200 Software (C7200P-ADVENTERPRISEK9-M), Version 
 12.4(24)T2, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)

 Or is something else going on?

Off topic, this reminds me I would rather have ASPLAIN
again.  We switched a couple of years ago on a particular
user request.

If there is no objection, I would love to switch back
ASAP.  This would be on route-views, and on route-views3.
Just asking if others concur?

-- 
John Kemp (k...@routeviews.org)
RouteViews Engineer
NOC: n...@routeviews.org
MAIL: h...@routeviews.org
WWW: http://www.routeviews.org




Re: 32-bit ASes at routeviews

2012-12-18 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 18/12/2012 22:24, John Kemp wrote:
 If there is no objection, I would love to switch back
 ASAP.  This would be on route-views, and on route-views3.
 Just asking if others concur?

rfc5396.   I'd say go for it.

Nick




Re: Fiber only in DataCenters?

2012-12-18 Thread Michel de Nostredame
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.net

 Are there data centers out there that are fiber only? That is to say
 that the cross connects are fiber only and no copper cross connects
 are available?

 I have not personally run across any DCs that do not permit copper Xcon,
 but I am young, and not well-travelled.

I believe all datacenter allow copper cross connections but maybe not
actually provisioned by copper. Most of my copper cross connections
are actually provisioned by in-house fibers plus FOT on both end.
Hence the hand-off looks like copper.

--
Michel~



Re: 32-bit ASes at routeviews

2012-12-18 Thread Randy Bush
 Off topic, this reminds me I would rather have ASPLAIN
 again.  We switched a couple of years ago on a particular
 user request.

listening to those pesky users, eh?

 If there is no objection, I would love to switch back
 ASAP.  This would be on route-views, and on route-views3.
 Just asking if others concur?

makes sense to me

randy



Re: 32-bit ASes at routeviews

2012-12-18 Thread Tony Tauber
+1

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:

  Off topic, this reminds me I would rather have ASPLAIN
  again.  We switched a couple of years ago on a particular
  user request.

 listening to those pesky users, eh?

  If there is no objection, I would love to switch back
  ASAP.  This would be on route-views, and on route-views3.
  Just asking if others concur?

 makes sense to me

 randy




Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP

2012-12-18 Thread Crist Clark
Infoblox just started offering the IPAM portion of their software for free,

http://www.infoblox.com/en/resources/software-downloads/ip-address-management-freeware.html

We've been using the full-blown commercial appliances (IPAM, DHCP, and
DNS), not the freeware. I don't know exactly how it works without the
other pieces integrated, but it may be worth a look.