Re: [liberationtech] NSA Laughs at PCs, Prefers Hacking Routers and Switches
- Forwarded message from liberationt...@lewman.us - Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 22:27:46 -0400 From: liberationt...@lewman.us To: liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] NSA Laughs at PCs, Prefers Hacking Routers and Switches Organization: The Tor Project, Inc. X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.20; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Reply-To: liberationtech liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:33:09 -0400 Robert Guerra rgue...@privaterra.org wrote: Curious on people's comments on types of routers, firewalls and other appliances that might be affected as well as mitigation strategies. Would installing a pfsense and/or other open source firewall be helpful in anyway at a home net location? When I read this article, I read core routers and switches at ISPs, like Cisco, Juniper, F5, etc. I don't read this as linksys, dlink, netgear, etc. I'm sure NSA could crack into anything consumer level with ease, it's likely any 4-bit criminal could do it too. However, it makes more sense for NSA to watch the core connectivity points on the Internet, rather than watching individuals, solely from an economic effort versus benefit point of view. When I ran global networks, one can record everything and sort out the individual streams later to find employees doing various layers of fraud or not. There was no point in watching the end points because it was too resource intensive. I'm sure the NSA has analyzed this and come to the same conclusion. There's no point in going after tens of millions of endpoints, when you can own them all with a handful of switches. A counterpoint is that most core Internet routers and switches are running at capacity and any monitoring affects quality of service and gets customers complaining. -- Andrew http://tpo.is/contact pgp 0x6B4D6475 -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. - End forwarded message - -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5
Re: [liberationtech] NSA Laughs at PCs, Prefers Hacking Routers and Switches
The last paragraph in the post is the most important, but it invalidates the rest of the post. Core routers are a terrible intercept point because of load and the sheer amount of packets they process and they are also MUCH more likely to be running up to date firmware than a router in an edge network where the main technical person is primarily a Windows/Exchange admin. The problem with recording everything is that its not feasible and the idea that all/most/many core routers are merrily sending a copy of all packets to some external storage facility is demonstrably false. If you want to record flows that's a bit more technically (and legally in the US since its meta-data) feasible, but again netflow traffic from all/most/many core routers is extremely hard to hide on a 24/7 basis and again is demonstrably false. Its far easier (technically and legally) for the NSA to have a directory of devices they can tap on demand without the knowledge of the owners either through unpatched security flaws, cooperation from the carrier, or intentionally built back doors. Its also more feasibly for them (and we have good evidence this has happened) to directly mirror the layer 2 traffic on some of the largest backbone networks. This of course allows them to passively listen without impacting the core router, but that approach is quite difficult to leverage when you're trying to target a specific person or organization since the volume of unimportant information so greatly exceeds the targeted information. Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 http://twitter.com/kscotthelms On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: - Forwarded message from liberationt...@lewman.us - Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 22:27:46 -0400 From: liberationt...@lewman.us To: liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] NSA Laughs at PCs, Prefers Hacking Routers and Switches Organization: The Tor Project, Inc. X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.20; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Reply-To: liberationtech liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:33:09 -0400 Robert Guerra rgue...@privaterra.org wrote: Curious on people's comments on types of routers, firewalls and other appliances that might be affected as well as mitigation strategies. Would installing a pfsense and/or other open source firewall be helpful in anyway at a home net location? When I read this article, I read core routers and switches at ISPs, like Cisco, Juniper, F5, etc. I don't read this as linksys, dlink, netgear, etc. I'm sure NSA could crack into anything consumer level with ease, it's likely any 4-bit criminal could do it too. However, it makes more sense for NSA to watch the core connectivity points on the Internet, rather than watching individuals, solely from an economic effort versus benefit point of view. When I ran global networks, one can record everything and sort out the individual streams later to find employees doing various layers of fraud or not. There was no point in watching the end points because it was too resource intensive. I'm sure the NSA has analyzed this and come to the same conclusion. There's no point in going after tens of millions of endpoints, when you can own them all with a handful of switches. A counterpoint is that most core Internet routers and switches are running at capacity and any monitoring affects quality of service and gets customers complaining. -- Andrew http://tpo.is/contact pgp 0x6B4D6475 -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. - End forwarded message - -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5
Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles
On 09/04/2013 09:17 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 20:47:40 -0500, Leo Bicknell said: There's still the much more minor point that when I tried to self serve I ended up at a blank page on the Yahoo! web site, hopefully they will figure that out as well. I'm continually amazed at the number of web designers that don't test their pages with NoScript enabled. Just sayin'. Noscript users are even less important than ie6 users. Welcome to the long tail of irrelevance. Mike
Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles
In a message written on Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 12:17:28AM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 20:47:40 -0500, Leo Bicknell said: There's still the much more minor point that when I tried to self serve I ended up at a blank page on the Yahoo! web site, hopefully they will figure that out as well. I'm continually amazed at the number of web designers that don't test their pages with NoScript enabled. Just sayin'. While perhaps likely I would use NoScript, the failure in question happened with a bone stock, up to date Safari client with JavaScript enabled. No ad-block or other software to interfear. -- Leo Bicknell - bickn...@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ pgpOleZLB16a8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles
On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've got to apologize publicly to Yahoo! here as part of my issue was my own stupidity. It appears in the past I've had multiple Yahoo! ID's and I was trying to use the wrong one, one that may have gone away a long time ago, rather than my still active ID. Some helpful people at Yahoo got me straightened out on that point. My apologies for disparaging Yahoo! when it was my own fault. There's still the much more minor point that when I tried to self serve I ended up at a blank page on the Yahoo! web site, hopefully they will figure that out as well. I surely hope so too. When I tried to get my old yahoo email account back (I have only ONE), and ended with the same empty page. Hope some yahoo people on this list listening. It is important to me I can get that email address back; some friends only know me by that address. Lixia On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: Apparently it was implemented by a group of low-bid programmers in a far off land. I have, err, had, a Yahoo! account I used for two things, getting e-mail from Yahoo! groups and accessing Flickr. I was on Flickr not a two or three months ago to fix a picture someone noticed was in the wrong album. When I saw this I thought I should log in again to reset my one year ticker. Off to www.yahoo.com and click sign in. Enter userid, enter password. Drops me to a CAPTCHA screen, that's odd, never seen that before, but ok. Enter CAPTCHA and it redirects me to https://edit.yahoo.com/forgot;, which when reached from said CAPTCHA screen renders as a 100% blank page. That's some fine web coding. I went to the flickr site, tried to log in. At least there it tells me my userid is in the process of being recycled. No option to recover. Try creating a new account with the same userid, sorry, it's in use. So as far as I can tell: - The must be inactive for one year is BS, and/or logging into Flickr didn't count in my case. - No notifications are sent, so if you're a person who is there for things like Yahoo groups and forwards your e-mail elsewhere you may be using the service in a way that generates no logs. - There is no way to get an account back that is in the recycling phase, which is frankly stupid. As a result Yahoo! has lost a Flickr and Groups member, and I'm not sure I see any reason to sign up again at this point. -- Leo Bicknell - bickn...@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles
On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've got to apologize publicly to Yahoo! here as part of my issue was my own stupidity. It appears in the past I've had multiple Yahoo! ID's and I was I, on the other hand, need someone from Yahoo! to contact me, because I decided to test their email wishlist feature. Repeated attempts got me nothing but a message saying that my credit card information was incorrect. But when I checked my bill this morning, I have three fifty cent charges against my account (one for each time I revalidated my email address while attempting to use their form). There's no contact page on http://wishlist.yahoo.com, despite the fact that it's an ecommerce page that takes credit cards, and there's no apparent way to contact a human from the main yahoo page. I can always ask my credit card company to refuse the charges, but if Yahoo! is charging credit cards and not providing services, I think someone there needs to know there's a problem. Never mind taking credit card numbers and providing no customer support.
Re: Data Mining/Crawling through a Mailing List
Dump it all into Hadoop and run a word cloud analysis :3. Honestly it sounds like a cool idea, and I'm sure someone has worked on it before but I don't know anything off the top of my head. Cheers, Joshua Sent from my iPad On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Kasper Adel karim.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, A bit off topic but i was looking for a way/tool that could crawl through nanog(or other) archives and try to filter most common discussions and things like that, if anyone is aware of such a tool, pls let me know. Thanks, Kim
RE: Data Mining/Crawling through a Mailing List
That tool will have its work cut out for it... ;) Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Kasper Adel karim.a...@gmail.com Date: 09/05/2013 11:23 AM (GMT-08:00) To: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org Subject: Data Mining/Crawling through a Mailing List Hello, A bit off topic but i was looking for a way/tool that could crawl through nanog(or other) archives and try to filter most common discussions and things like that, if anyone is aware of such a tool, pls let me know. Thanks, Kim
AlbertaIX - no longer a Cybera project?
It seems that AlbertaIX is no longer listed on Cybera's list of projects: http://www.cybera.ca/strategic-projects/ In fact, doing a search on Cybera's site yields a whole bunch of dead links: http://www.cybera.ca/search?q=albertaix Is AlbertaIX no longer part of the Cybera project inventory? Has Cybera pulled official support for AlbertaIX? Are AlbertaIX and Cybera still sharing an address? [1,2] Just curious. [1] http://www.cybera.ca/contact-us/locations/ [2] http://www.canada-companies-info.com/albertaix-6sh9/
Re: AlbertaIX - no longer a Cybera project?
Mark Leonard [m...@bernoullinetworks.com] wrote: It seems that AlbertaIX is no longer listed on Cybera's list of projects: http://www.cybera.ca/strategic-projects/ In fact, doing a search on Cybera's site yields a whole bunch of dead links: http://www.cybera.ca/search?q=albertaix Is AlbertaIX no longer part of the Cybera project inventory? Has Cybera pulled official support for AlbertaIX? Are AlbertaIX and Cybera still sharing an address? [1,2] I can't answer these questions, but it seems that the AlbertaIX chair, Bernard Parkinson (Platinum Communications) resigned yesterday, and the AlbertaIX co-chair, Charles Taylor (City of Calgary) followed him by resigning too. I guess that leaves Bill Sandiford (CIRA) and Jean-Francois Amiot (Cybera) running the show?? -- scio me nihil scire or scio me nescire
Re: AlbertaIX - no longer a Cybera project?
On Sep 5, Chris Cappuccio wrote: I can't answer these questions, but it seems that the AlbertaIX chair, Bernard Parkinson (Platinum Communications) resigned yesterday, and the AlbertaIX co-chair, Charles Taylor (City of Calgary) followed him by resigning too. I guess that leaves Bill Sandiford (CIRA) and Jean-Francois Amiot (Cybera) running the show?? That is a good question. I am also a director on the AlbertaIX board, and don't have a clue what is going on. Most directors are being kept in the dark, while others take unapproved action. I should probably jump ship as well. The last six months in AlbertaIX saw no discussions (or approval) for any action plan. Without votes, nothing can be built. Now a new chair has to be selected first. Who will it be? The entire organization also lacks documents. The new game plan is to follow YYCIX because of Hurricane Electric's arrival at the datacenter which was (originally) the least preffered. Or maybe the new plan is to simply serve Cybera's interests through the re-use of seed money? After all, Cybera also supplies the secretary. I don't have answers, though I've been asking questions since the beginning. Things first went crazy in December when YYCIX was formed and installed a switch within days. Yes, as a local go-to-guy who wants to see better net around here, I installed the equipment. The schism between AlbertaIX and YYCIX has been discussed before, so I need not explain it here. Recently, events again went crazy when Robin Windsor (CEO of Cybera, the NPO local EDU provider) walked into an AlbertaIX board meeting and withheld Alberta Government seed money from AlbertaIX for the purchase of a switch --- unless I resign immediately. (It was quite a battle getting that episode into the minutes). The entire process was opaque and undemocratic from the start. It was captured.
Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Kee Hinckley naz...@marrowbones.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've got to apologize publicly to Yahoo! here as part of my issue was my own stupidity. It appears in the past I've had multiple Yahoo! ID's and I was I, on the other hand, need someone from Yahoo! to contact me, because I decided to test their email wishlist feature. Repeated attempts got me nothing but a message saying that my credit card information was incorrect. But when I checked my bill this morning, I have three fifty cent charges against my account (one for each time I revalidated my email address while attempting to use their form). There's no contact page on http://wishlist.yahoo.com, despite the fact that it's an ecommerce page that takes credit cards, and there's no apparent way to contact a human from the main yahoo page. I can always ask my credit card company to refuse the charges, but if Yahoo! is charging credit cards and not providing services, I think someone there needs to know there's a problem. Never mind taking credit card numbers and providing no customer support. And it's not an isolated incident -- the exact same thing happened to me last night as well. Royce
MTR for Android?
Does anybody know if the program has been ported, or re-created there? I have searched the market, but not found anything... at least nothing whose description includes the letters mtr. - jra -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: SMTP connection + lost while reading message data (header)
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Kwas Lee leek...@yahoo.com wrote: Could someone please advice as some of sender are unable to send mails to my server when i check the logs i found 2013-09-05 20:31:32 SMTP connection from smtp-sender.com (senderdomain.com) [xx.xx.xx.xx] lost while reading message data (header) Hi Lee, Smells like path MTU. The connection died at what is probably the first time in the SMTP session that the remote system tried to send you a large, probably 1500 byte packet: the beginning (message header) part of the data portion (the email message headers and body themselves, as opposed to the sender and recipient declarations). This is not the only candidate cause, but that's what my mind jumps to. Try adjusting the TCP Maximum Segment Size on your server. Turn it down to 1200 or so and see if the problem vanishes. If so, somebody's losing ICMP packets. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
FW: Yahoo Maintenance Notification for CoreSite - Any2 Denver
For any Yahoo peers at Coresite, FYI - I'm expecting to lose my BGP peer for a portion of their maintenance. -Original Message- From: CoreSite OSC [mailto:o...@coresite.com] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:50 PM Cc: CoreSite OSC; netops Subject: FW: Yahoo Maintenance Notification for CoreSite - Any2 Denver Message forwarded from Yahoo. Operations Support Center CORESITE (NYSE: COR) +1.866.777.CORE (Prompt 2) o...@coresite.com | www.CoreSite.com -Original Message- From: Nevin Gonsalves [mailto:ne...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:43 AM To: CoreSite OSC; Any2 Subject: Yahoo Maintenance Notification for CoreSite - Any2 Denver Can you please help forward this notify to peers and if possible cc peer...@yahoo-inc.com - thx. Hi Peers, Yahoo will be performing a maintenance on our router at CoreSite - Any2 Denver. This will affect all peering sessions on our routers. Exchange peering IPv4: 206.51.46.25 and Ipv6: 2605:6c00:303:303::25 ASN: 10310 Start:2013/09/05 18:00 PDT End: 2013/09/05 21:00 PDT Peering details: as10310.peeringdb.com Thanks, Nevin Gonsalves ne...@yahoo-inc.com / peer...@yahoo-inc.com
Re: MTR for Android?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inflim.trp it needs all this because? This app has access to these permissions: Your location precise location (GPS and network-based) approximate location (network-based) Network communication full network access view network connections Phone calls read phone status and identity Storage modify or delete the contents of your USB storage Your accounts read Google service configuration Development tools read sensitive log data System tools test access to protected storage Affects Battery prevent device from sleeping randy
Re: MTR for Android?
Fair point. Have submitted a bug and an rfe; will request clarification if I get a dialog on. Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inflim.trp it needs all this because? This app has access to these permissions: Your location precise location (GPS and network-based) approximate location (network-based) Network communication full network access view network connections Phone calls read phone status and identity Storage modify or delete the contents of your USB storage Your accounts read Google service configuration Development tools read sensitive log data System tools test access to protected storage Affects Battery prevent device from sleeping randy -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: AlbertaIX - no longer a Cybera project?
irrelevant spectator commentary i do not know squat about the local issues in alberta. but we all seem to spend a lot of time and energy going sideways, sometimes backward, instead of forward. what is under these recent, seemingly unproductive, canadian exchange spats? why is vancouver a suburb of seattle? is it some sort of physics with telco horizontal vs trans-border pricing, or regulatory restrictions, or is it the poutine? i always thought canada was a somethat more civilized culture, well, except for poutine. it all looks strange from here. but then don't ask me why tokyo has the number of exchanges it does. randy
RE: Data Mining/Crawling through a Mailing List
Were you thinking about parsing NANOG and creating a word-based streamgraph like this? http://www.benfarahmand.com/2012/12/psl-listserv-streamgraph.html The author of that streamgraph did provide some additional information on the steps he took to create it, but may be too long (including attachments) to post directly to NANOG. Tony Patti CIO S. Walter Packaging Corp. -Original Message- From: Kasper Adel [mailto:karim.a...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:22 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Data Mining/Crawling through a Mailing List Hello, A bit off topic but i was looking for a way/tool that could crawl through nanog(or other) archives and try to filter most common discussions and things like that, if anyone is aware of such a tool, pls let me know. Thanks, Kim
SMTP connection + lost while reading message data (header)
hello Team Could someone please advice as some of sender are unable to send mails to my server when i check the logs i found 2013-09-05 20:31:32 SMTP connection from smtp-sender.com (senderdomain.com) [xx.xx.xx.xx] lost while reading message data (header) Regads lee
Re: MTR for Android?
On 9/5/2013 6:33 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Does anybody know if the program has been ported, or re-created there? I have searched the market, but not found anything... at least nothing whose description includes the letters mtr. - jra I am not aware of a port of MTR, but I have used an app called TracePing for much of the same functionality. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inflim.trp -DMM
Data Mining/Crawling through a Mailing List
Hello, A bit off topic but i was looking for a way/tool that could crawl through nanog(or other) archives and try to filter most common discussions and things like that, if anyone is aware of such a tool, pls let me know. Thanks, Kim
US and UK spy agencies defeat privacy and security on the internet
Anyone else see this coming? US and UK spy agencies defeat privacy and security on the internet http://gu.com/p/3thvv Sent from my Mobile Device.
Re: MTR for Android?
On Sep 5, 2013 3:34 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Does anybody know if the program has been ported, or re-created there? I have searched the market, but not found anything... at least nothing whose description includes the letters mtr. - jra Mtr is here http://dan.drown.org/android/pkg/ CB -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles
They're just validating a credit card number; that was an authorization which won't be settled, almost certainly. Royce Williams ro...@techsolvency.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Kee Hinckley naz...@marrowbones.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've got to apologize publicly to Yahoo! here as part of my issue was my own stupidity. It appears in the past I've had multiple Yahoo! ID's and I was I, on the other hand, need someone from Yahoo! to contact me, because I decided to test their email wishlist feature. Repeated attempts got me nothing but a message saying that my credit card information was incorrect. But when I checked my bill this morning, I have three fifty cent charges against my account (one for each time I revalidated my email address while attempting to use their form). There's no contact page on http://wishlist.yahoo.com, despite the fact that it's an ecommerce page that takes credit cards, and there's no apparent way to contact a human from the main yahoo page. I can always ask my credit card company to refuse the charges, but if Yahoo! is charging credit cards and not providing services, I think someone there needs to know there's a problem. Never mind taking credit card numbers and providing no customer support. And it's not an isolated incident -- the exact same thing happened to me last night as well. Royce -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles
Makes you wonder why the charges are in triplicate? An authorization takes place once to validate the card certainly, but once the validation is done yahoo should mark the card as good and allow you to party as previous scheduled. This isn't shocking.. Considering almost anything to do with Yahoo! turns into an epic cluster product and service wise. I'm still curious as to how they are actually going to generate money.. Probably a little less curious than they are I'd imagine.. ;) Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com Date: 09/05/2013 5:27 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Royce Williams ro...@techsolvency.com,nanog@nanog.org list nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles They're just validating a credit card number; that was an authorization which won't be settled, almost certainly. Royce Williams ro...@techsolvency.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Kee Hinckley naz...@marrowbones.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've got to apologize publicly to Yahoo! here as part of my issue was my own stupidity. It appears in the past I've had multiple Yahoo! ID's and I was I, on the other hand, need someone from Yahoo! to contact me, because I decided to test their email wishlist feature. Repeated attempts got me nothing but a message saying that my credit card information was incorrect. But when I checked my bill this morning, I have three fifty cent charges against my account (one for each time I revalidated my email address while attempting to use their form). There's no contact page on http://wishlist.yahoo.com, despite the fact that it's an ecommerce page that takes credit cards, and there's no apparent way to contact a human from the main yahoo page. I can always ask my credit card company to refuse the charges, but if Yahoo! is charging credit cards and not providing services, I think someone there needs to know there's a problem. Never mind taking credit card numbers and providing no customer support. And it's not an isolated incident -- the exact same thing happened to me last night as well. Royce -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: FW: Yahoo Maintenance Notification for CoreSite - Any2 Denver
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Eric Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: For any Yahoo peers at Coresite, FYI - I'm expecting to lose my BGP peer for a portion of their maintenance. Should be all back up and happy on the new blade now. ^_^ Thanks! Matt -Original Message- From: CoreSite OSC [mailto:o...@coresite.com] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:50 PM Cc: CoreSite OSC; netops Subject: FW: Yahoo Maintenance Notification for CoreSite - Any2 Denver Message forwarded from Yahoo. Operations Support Center CORESITE (NYSE: COR) +1.866.777.CORE (Prompt 2) o...@coresite.com | www.CoreSite.com -Original Message- From: Nevin Gonsalves [mailto:ne...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:43 AM To: CoreSite OSC; Any2 Subject: Yahoo Maintenance Notification for CoreSite - Any2 Denver Can you please help forward this notify to peers and if possible cc peer...@yahoo-inc.com - thx. Hi Peers, Yahoo will be performing a maintenance on our router at CoreSite - Any2 Denver. This will affect all peering sessions on our routers. Exchange peering IPv4: 206.51.46.25 and Ipv6: 2605:6c00:303:303::25 ASN: 10310 Start:2013/09/05 18:00 PDT End: 2013/09/05 21:00 PDT Peering details: as10310.peeringdb.com Thanks, Nevin Gonsalves ne...@yahoo-inc.com / peer...@yahoo-inc.com
Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles
Repeated attempts. Wonder how many. Cheers, - jr 'betting on three' a Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Makes you wonder why the charges are in triplicate? An authorization takes place once to validate the card certainly, but once the validation is done yahoo should mark the card as good and allow you to party as previous scheduled. This isn't shocking.. Considering almost anything to do with Yahoo! turns into an epic cluster product and service wise. I'm still curious as to how they are actually going to generate money.. Probably a little less curious than they are I'd imagine.. ;) Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com Date: 09/05/2013 5:27 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Royce Williams ro...@techsolvency.com,nanog@nanog.org list nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles They're just validating a credit card number; that was an authorization which won't be settled, almost certainly. Royce Williams ro...@techsolvency.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Kee Hinckley naz...@marrowbones.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've got to apologize publicly to Yahoo! here as part of my issue was my own stupidity. It appears in the past I've had multiple Yahoo! ID's and I was I, on the other hand, need someone from Yahoo! to contact me, because I decided to test their email wishlist feature. Repeated attempts got me nothing but a message saying that my credit card information was incorrect. But when I checked my bill this morning, I have three fifty cent charges against my account (one for each time I revalidated my email address while attempting to use their form). There's no contact page on http://wishlist.yahoo.com, despite the fact that it's an ecommerce page that takes credit cards, and there's no apparent way to contact a human from the main yahoo page. I can always ask my credit card company to refuse the charges, but if Yahoo! is charging credit cards and not providing services, I think someone there needs to know there's a problem. Never mind taking credit card numbers and providing no customer support. And it's not an isolated incident -- the exact same thing happened to me last night as well. Royce -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles
Cough. And it's not an isolated incident -- the exact same thing happened to me last night as well. Royce Cough. ;) Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com Date: 09/05/2013 8:55 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com,Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com,Royce Williams ro...@techsolvency.com,nanog@nanog.org list nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles Repeated attempts. Wonder how many. Cheers, - jr 'betting on three' a Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Makes you wonder why the charges are in triplicate? An authorization takes place once to validate the card certainly, but once the validation is done yahoo should mark the card as good and allow you to party as previous scheduled. This isn't shocking.. Considering almost anything to do with Yahoo! turns into an epic cluster product and service wise. I'm still curious as to how they are actually going to generate money.. Probably a little less curious than they are I'd imagine.. ;) Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com Date: 09/05/2013 5:27 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Royce Williams ro...@techsolvency.com,nanog@nanog.org list nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Yahoo is now recycling handles They're just validating a credit card number; that was an authorization which won't be settled, almost certainly. Royce Williams ro...@techsolvency.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Kee Hinckley naz...@marrowbones.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've got to apologize publicly to Yahoo! here as part of my issue was my own stupidity. It appears in the past I've had multiple Yahoo! ID's and I was I, on the other hand, need someone from Yahoo! to contact me, because I decided to test their email wishlist feature. Repeated attempts got me nothing but a message saying that my credit card information was incorrect. But when I checked my bill this morning, I have three fifty cent charges against my account (one for each time I revalidated my email address while attempting to use their form). There's no contact page on http://wishlist.yahoo.com, despite the fact that it's an ecommerce page that takes credit cards, and there's no apparent way to contact a human from the main yahoo page. I can always ask my credit card company to refuse the charges, but if Yahoo! is charging credit cards and not providing services, I think someone there needs to know there's a problem. Never mind taking credit card numbers and providing no customer support. And it's not an isolated incident -- the exact same thing happened to me last night as well. Royce -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: SMTP connection + lost while reading message data (header)
Williambr/br/Thanks for advice i will adjust and get update the statusbr/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone
