Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router
Hello Everyone, I have a customer that is looking for a voip router. The router part is easy however, they need it to support their ADSL/VDSL connection PPoE, and all that lovely stuff. Can you gents and ladies kindly recommend something that would fit all. preferably the cisco route. If you have one not in use, we would be interested in hearing from you. Kind Regards, Nick.
Re: Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router
Hi Nick, you can take a look to this model http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps380/ps10082/data_sheet_c78-682548.html . Contact me off list if you need more info. Regards On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Nick Cameo sym...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I have a customer that is looking for a voip router. The router part is easy however, they need it to support their ADSL/VDSL connection PPoE, and all that lovely stuff. Can you gents and ladies kindly recommend something that would fit all. preferably the cisco route. If you have one not in use, we would be interested in hearing from you. Kind Regards, Nick. -- Ciao, Alessandro
Re: Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router
Hi Nick, Cisco 867VAE and 887VA are pretty fine routers. Regards, Remco Bressers Signet B.V. On 12/13/2013 02:54 PM, Nick Cameo wrote: Hello Everyone, I have a customer that is looking for a voip router. The router part is easy however, they need it to support their ADSL/VDSL connection PPoE, and all that lovely stuff. Can you gents and ladies kindly recommend something that would fit all. preferably the cisco route. If you have one not in use, we would be interested in hearing from you. Kind Regards, Nick.
Re: Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router
On 13-12-2013 14:54, Nick Cameo wrote: Hello Everyone, I have a customer that is looking for a voip router. The router part is easy however, they need it to support their ADSL/VDSL connection PPoE, and all that lovely stuff. Can you gents and ladies kindly recommend something that would fit all. preferably the cisco route. If you have one not in use, we would be interested in hearing from you. Something entirely different: Draytek Vigor 2850, maybe? Cheers
Re: Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router
On 13-12-2013 14:54, Nick Cameo wrote: Hello Everyone, I have a customer that is looking for a voip router. The Edgewater EdgeMarc 200 series has worked well for me. The ones that I've used have 2xFXS and 1xFXO ports with ADSL. Lots of knobs in a fairly sane web GUI. http://www.thetelecomspot.com/systems-and-components/sip-and-voip/sip-voip-gateways/edgewater-gateways/edgemarc-200-series.html -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
RE: Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router
We used the EM 200 series at my last job. They behaved reasonably well, especially considering the nutty scenarios we deployed them in. If you're committed to Cisco, the 800 series is great as long as you don't intend to terminate TDM traffic and convert to SIP, transcode, or deploy any local voice services via the router such as conference bridging. Then you'd need something in the ISR/ISRG2 line w/ PVDMs installed. -Original Message- From: Joe Hamelin [mailto:j...@nethead.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:51 AM To: Seth Mos Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router On 13-12-2013 14:54, Nick Cameo wrote: Hello Everyone, I have a customer that is looking for a voip router. The Edgewater EdgeMarc 200 series has worked well for me. The ones that I've used have 2xFXS and 1xFXO ports with ADSL. Lots of knobs in a fairly sane web GUI. http://www.thetelecomspot.com/systems-and-components/sip-and-voip/sip-voip-gateways/edgewater-gateways/edgemarc-200-series.html -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
Re: Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router
Ooops, I should have mentioned. We do not need an ISDN gateway (FXO/FXS). The connection is purely SIP. What is important is support for ADSL/ADSL2 VDSL/VDSL2 and PPoE. Bell Canada.. N.
Re: Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router
convert to SIP, transcode, or deploy any local voice services via the router such as conference bridging. Then you'd need something in the ISR/ISRG2 line w/ PVDMs installed. Very interesting point! We would the router to do some transcoding yes, to take some load off of the servers. That being said, we were originally looking at a Cisco 3845 integrated router that allows for PVDM2, or 3900 that allow for PVDM3 accompanied with VDSL2 and ADSL2 wan interface card. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. N.
Catalyst IOS refresher site?
It's been a bit too long since I was near the high end, so I grabbed a 4507 from my local surplus vendor; dual PS, dual supe, Gig Fiber (large transceivers, alas, not GBIC), and 3 48port RJ45 POE cards. For $60. I love surplus. Is there a good Catalyst-IOS tutorial on line I can buzz through, to refresh my memory on where everything is? Cheers, -- jra -- Make Election Day a federal holiday: http://wh.gov/lBm94 100k sigs by 12/14 Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
Re: CWDM question
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Keith wrote: Fixed optics, there are no transponders, just a passive mux. No filters, though there is a pad on our side. Light levels on our side are good and within spec. I have been trying to find out from the SP what theirs are at presently, but when the circuit was first lit levels were taken and found to be within spec on both ends. Another possibility is that the fiber you're using has higher attenuation at 1471nm than at 1310. While 1471 is outside of the 'water peak' band (E band - 1360-1460nm, centered at 1383nm, iirc), the type of fiber could could still have higher attenuation that runs into the S and O bands. If replacing optics doesn't solve the issue, you'll probably need a test set that can test specifically at 1471 nm. jms
Re: Catalyst IOS refresher site?
On 12/13/2013 12:12 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: It's been a bit too long since I was near the high end, so I grabbed a 4507 from my local surplus vendor; dual PS, dual supe, Gig Fiber (large transceivers, alas, not GBIC), and 3 48port RJ45 POE cards. For $60. I love surplus. Is there a good Catalyst-IOS tutorial on line I can buzz through, to refresh my memory on where everything is? Might help if you said what type of line cards and sup you've got. A SupII era card is CatOS, SupIII and newer are IOS, command sets are completely different, and depending on the line cards you've got, you might have some of the really old L2 only cards (can't remember if you could do L3 on the bastard Gig/FE cards only, or if it was dependent on the particular Sup installed). That said, if it's an IOS Sup, I'd start here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps4324/prod_command_reference_list.html Jeremy TheBrez Bresley b...@brezworks.com
Re: turning on comcast v6
Kinkaid, Kyle(kkink...@usgs.gov)@Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:46:56AM -0800: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It doesn’t. You can get IPv6 working with off-the-shelf equipment if you choose to. Randy chose to use that particular hardware and software combination. I'm curious, do you know of a consumer-grade router which supports DHCPv6-PD? I have been making plans to put OpenWRT on my home router to get IPv6 and have found v6 support quite lacking. Most of the routers seem to like to focus on various transition technologies like 6to4 tunnels. I would love to go to NewEgg and get a home router for $50 (or even $100) that is ready to go. What's more surprising is even Cisco and Juniper have been lagging. The SRX only got DHCPv6-PD support in the last 6 months or so and I don't think the ASA has it yet. However, ISR routers like the 88x and 86x support it. So what it's worth, I'm on Comcast Business, using an ASUS RT-N66U router and a Motorola SB6141 modem. IPv6 Just Works on my network. I don't remember having to do anything strange to the router to make it work, and I'm certainly still running the default firmware. -- Bill Weiss
Re: Catalyst IOS refresher site?
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Bresley b...@brezworks.com Might help if you said what type of line cards and sup you've got. A SupII era card is CatOS, SupIII and newer are IOS, command sets are completely different, and depending on the line cards you've got, you might have some of the really old L2 only cards (can't remember if you could do L3 on the bastard Gig/FE cards only, or if it was dependent on the particular Sup installed). That said, if it's an IOS Sup, I'd start here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps4324/prod_command_reference_list.html Hmm. I wasn't smart enough to shoot a pic of the front panel, and I'm not picking it up til Monday, so I don't know. I have some background in Catalyst IOS, but it's old and on 3500-class switches, not the bigger iron. Thanks, -- jra -- Make Election Day a federal holiday: http://wh.gov/lBm94 100k sigs by 12/14 Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Sam Moats wrote: I'm not sure about the current state of the industry it's been a while since I was responsible for an access network. In the past we would keep radius logs for about 4 months, these would include the username,IP address and yes (to date myself) the caller id of the customer at the time. We used to keep several years worth of RADIUS summary data, which included username, call end time, duration, IP, NAS-IP, ANI, and DNIS, except for where the telco wouldn't sell PRI and we had to use CT1, where those weren't available. How's that for dating? :) Want to go back a little further? http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/modems1.jpg Rack of Sportsters, Digicrap[1] on top, and some Total Control USR modems on the table/overflow. [1] That's what I ended up nicknaming Digicom's rackmount modem chassis as their modems were unreliable (would repeatedly lock up requiring manual/physical resets and causing major problems for our hunt group). We eventually got them to buy it back as they were unable to resolve their problems. -- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route | therefore you are _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
The Cidr Report
This report has been generated at Fri Dec 13 21:13:35 2013 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.
Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report.
Recent Table History
Date PrefixesCIDR Agg
06-12-13485100 273979
07-12-13485087 274164
08-12-13485480 274089
09-12-13484900 274506
10-12-13485679 274553
11-12-13485834 274460
12-12-13485474 274478
13-12-13485835 274579
AS Summary
45852 Number of ASes in routing system
18803 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix
4209 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS
AS7029 : WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc
118835200 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s)
AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street
Aggregation Summary
The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only
when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as
to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also
proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes').
--- 13Dec13 ---
ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description
Table 486128 274536 21159243.5% All ASes
AS28573 3434 96 333897.2% NET Serviços de Comunicação
S.A.
AS6389 3032 56 297698.2% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK -
BellSouth.net Inc.
AS17974 2730 204 252692.5% TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT
Telekomunikasi Indonesia
AS7029 4209 1735 247458.8% WINDSTREAM - Windstream
Communications Inc
AS4766 2948 960 198867.4% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom
AS22773 2302 365 193784.1% ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC -
Cox Communications Inc.
AS1785 2148 391 175781.8% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec
Communications, Inc.
AS18881 1721 31 169098.2% Global Village Telecom
AS18566 2050 565 148572.4% MEGAPATH5-US - MegaPath
Corporation
AS4323 2953 1520 143348.5% TWTC - tw telecom holdings,
inc.
AS10620 2695 1325 137050.8% Telmex Colombia S.A.
AS36998 1854 487 136773.7% SDN-MOBITEL
AS7303 1738 473 126572.8% Telecom Argentina S.A.
AS4755 1797 589 120867.2% TATACOMM-AS TATA
Communications formerly VSNL
is Leading ISP
AS7552 1205 141 106488.3% VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel
Corporation
AS22561 1253 225 102882.0% AS22561 - CenturyTel Internet
Holdings, Inc.
AS9829 1548 654 89457.8% BSNL-NIB National Internet
Backbone
AS35908 919 87 83290.5% VPLSNET - Krypt Technologies
AS7545 2120 1305 81538.4% TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom
Limited
AS18101 989 186 80381.2% RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN
Reliance Communications
Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI
AS4808 1142 379 76366.8% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP
network China169 Beijing
Province Network
AS701 1508 781 72748.2% UUNET - MCI Communications
Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon
Business
AS24560 1097 372 72566.1% AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti
Airtel Ltd., Telemedia
Services
AS8151 1378 655 72352.5% Uninet S.A. de C.V.
AS6983 1292 578 71455.3% ITCDELTA - ITC^Deltacom
AS13977 855 143 71283.3% CTELCO - FAIRPOINT
COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
AS855734 57 67792.2% CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant
Regional Communications, Inc.
AS6147 789 113 67685.7% Telefonica del Peru S.A.A.
AS4780 1003 330 67367.1% SEEDNET Digital United Inc.
AS4788
BGP Update Report
BGP Update Report Interval: 05-Dec-13 -to- 12-Dec-13 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS701 99975 4.5% 4.6 -- UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 2 - AS982951052 2.3% 62.9 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 3 - AS840243636 2.0% 48.0 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom 4 - AS10620 29155 1.3% 12.4 -- Telmex Colombia S.A. 5 - AS13118 23428 1.1%3346.9 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom 6 - AS14287 20708 0.9%3451.3 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc. 7 - AS381618868 0.8% 45.5 -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES S.A. ESP 8 - AS477518640 0.8% 887.6 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms 9 - AS41691 15621 0.7% 446.3 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC 10 - AS29990 13225 0.6%6612.5 -- ASN-APPNEXUS - AppNexus, Inc 11 - AS28573 12771 0.6% 8.6 -- NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A. 12 - AS59217 12675 0.6% 12675.0 -- AZONNELIMITED-AS-AP Azonne Limited 13 - AS11976 12299 0.6% 183.6 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication International Inc. 14 - AS671311683 0.5% 21.4 -- IAM-AS 15 - AS27738 11298 0.5% 19.6 -- Ecuadortelecom S.A. 16 - AS29049 11172 0.5% 36.3 -- DELTA-TELECOM-AS Delta Telecom LTD. 17 - AS702910906 0.5% 7.4 -- WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc 18 - AS55714 10787 0.5% 42.5 -- APNIC-FIBERLINK-PK Fiberlink Pvt.Ltd 19 - AS11597 10674 0.5% 667.1 -- MERCURY-WIRELESS - Mercury Wireless, LLC 20 - AS453810474 0.5% 20.3 -- ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Network Center TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS59217 12675 0.6% 12675.0 -- AZONNELIMITED-AS-AP Azonne Limited 2 - AS29990 13225 0.6%6612.5 -- ASN-APPNEXUS - AppNexus, Inc 3 - AS544656181 0.3%6181.0 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc. 4 - AS225924067 0.2%4067.0 -- HBP - HBP, Inc. 5 - AS14287 20708 0.9%3451.3 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc. 6 - AS13118 23428 1.1%3346.9 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom 7 - AS603454677 0.2%2338.5 -- NBITI-AS Nahjol Balagheh International Research Institution 8 - AS322446648 0.3%2216.0 -- LIQUID-WEB-INC - Liquid Web, Inc. 9 - AS624312109 0.1%2109.0 -- NCSC-IE-AS National Cyber Security Centre 10 - AS7202 8682 0.4%1736.4 -- FAMU - Florida A M University 11 - AS304372949 0.1%1474.5 -- GE-MS003 - General Electric Company 12 - AS373671369 0.1%1369.0 -- CALLKEY 13 - AS21314 0.1% 671.0 -- ASHGROUPLTD-AS-AP ASH GROUP LTD. 14 - AS370048623 0.4%1231.9 -- SUBURBAN-AS 15 - AS6629 9876 0.4% 987.6 -- NOAA-AS - NOAA 16 - AS580421915 0.1% 957.5 -- BONCH State Educational Institution of Higher Vocational Education The Bonch-Bruevich Saint-Petersburg State University of Telecommunications 17 - AS477518640 0.8% 887.6 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms 18 - AS58499 884 0.0% 884.0 -- JPMC-AS-ID PT Jurnal Pelangi Media Cerdas 19 - AS42619 0.1% 591.0 -- Servidor na Web Data Center Ltda 20 - AS23295 766 0.0% 766.0 -- EA-01 - Extend America TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 109.161.64.0/20 23416 1.0% AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom 2 - 103.243.220.0/22 13213 0.6% AS29990 -- ASN-APPNEXUS - AppNexus, Inc 3 - 103.243.164.0/22 12675 0.5% AS59217 -- AZONNELIMITED-AS-AP Azonne Limited 4 - 85.249.160.0/20 12433 0.5% AS41691 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC 5 - 192.58.232.0/249832 0.4% AS6629 -- NOAA-AS - NOAA 6 - 120.28.62.0/24 9283 0.4% AS4775 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms 8 - 65.90.49.0/24 7299 0.3% AS3356 -- LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 9 - 67.210.190.0/236340 0.3% AS11976 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication International Inc. 10 - 206.152.15.0/246181 0.3% AS54465 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc. 11 - 115.170.128.0/17 5889 0.2% AS4847 -- CNIX-AP China Networks Inter-Exchange 12 - 67.210.188.0/235772 0.2% AS11976 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication International Inc. 13 - 68.143.17.0/24 5392 0.2% AS7029 -- WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc 14 - 168.223.206.0/23 4340 0.2% AS7202 -- FAMU - Florida A M University 15 - 168.223.200.0/22 4336 0.2% AS7202 -- FAMU - Florida A M University 16 - 2.93.235.0/24 4198 0.2% AS8402 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom 17 -
Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
I still have a soft spot for the Portmasters :-). We had rows of PM2's with US robotics 33.6K sportster modems attached on 8mm tape racks. Back when a town of 40K people could all connect through 2XT1's and everyone was happy. Sam Moats On 2013-12-13 16:59, Jon Lewis wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Sam Moats wrote: I'm not sure about the current state of the industry it's been a while since I was responsible for an access network. In the past we would keep radius logs for about 4 months, these would include the username,IP address and yes (to date myself) the caller id of the customer at the time. We used to keep several years worth of RADIUS summary data, which included username, call end time, duration, IP, NAS-IP, ANI, and DNIS, except for where the telco wouldn't sell PRI and we had to use CT1, where those weren't available. How's that for dating? :) Want to go back a little further? http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/modems1.jpg Rack of Sportsters, Digicrap[1] on top, and some Total Control USR modems on the table/overflow. [1] That's what I ended up nicknaming Digicom's rackmount modem chassis as their modems were unreliable (would repeatedly lock up requiring manual/physical resets and causing major problems for our hunt group). We eventually got them to buy it back as they were unable to resolve their problems. -- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route | therefore you are _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
RE: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
I'd say in addition to just how long, it's how badly do you need them . Searchable database could go back a few months while tapes usually exist for a lot longer than that. But you're not going to get the provider to dig through those unless they're under some legal obligation to do so. Malcolm -Original Message- From: Ray Wong [mailto:r...@rayw.net] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:50 AM To: Mikael Abrahamsson Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network? been a while, but seems like lately it's more a question of how long. ISPs can be in position where they need to, but as things have consolidated, seems like they'd really like to forget it as soon as they can. If you've got a specific case in mind, likely best to find a direct contact and get a response about policy, even if it has to be off-record. The big ones (like one I likely shouldn't mention by name unless they do as I don't work for them) definitely do, at least long enough to handle DMCA requests and other legal obligations. -R On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.sewrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Carlos Kamtha wrote: just a general curiousity question. it's been a long time since ive worked at an ISP. back then it was non-expiring DHCP leases and in some cases static IP for all.. (yes it was long ago..) Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.. Yes, it's very common to keep track of what user account/line had what IP at what time. -- Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se
Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM, /dev/ph0b0s pho...@panopticism.netwrote: On 12/12, R. Scott Evans wrote: I'm no lawyer but in the U.S., 18 USC 2703 appears to indicate this data must be kept for at least 180 days. You are very mistaken. There is no requirement to retain *any* logs (notwithstanding any orders issued by a court). My observation would be that 18 USC 2703 appears to provide for requirements for the service provider to disclose certain records, IF the provider has the records stored. The act doesn't say they must keep the records for 180 days in the first place. The act actually appears to impose additional restrictions on records that have been in the electronic system for less than 180 days. If LESS than 180 days, then a warrant is required; if 180 days or MORE, then in some cases, an administrative procedure may be used, instead of a warrant: that is in electronic storage in an electronic communications system for one hundred and eighty days or less, only pursuant to a warrant issued using the procedures described in the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure Section (f) Addresses a requirement to Preserve records, Preserve records and evidence PENDING issuance of a court order or process, SHALL retain for 90 days, extend to an additional 90-day period upon a renewed request by the government entity: (f) Requirement To Preserve Evidence.— (1) In general.— A provider of wire or electronic communication services or a remote computing service, upon the request of a governmental entity, shall take all necessary steps to preserve records and other evidence in its possession pending the issuance of a court order or other process. (2) Period of retention.— Records referred to in paragraph (1) shall be retained for a period of 90 days, which shall be extended for an additional 90-day period upon a renewed request by the governmental entity. -- -JH
