RE: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
Dell - Internal Use - Confidential I personally never ran the Ascend gear (outside of a setting up a customer's Ascend Superpipe 95 dual ISDN router one time), but I heard that the TNT gear doubled as space heaters. I remember one facility we were in that had a catastrophic cooling failure and the temperatures went to insane levels. Our PM3's happily kept running and never had an issue where I heard every TNT box in the facility kept rebooting and crashing. -Vinny -Original Message- From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:22 PM To: Paul Stewart Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network? On 16/12/2013 21:09, Paul Stewart wrote: Back in the day (geesh I feel old just saying that), I deployed a lot of PM3’s …. Then we moved to Ascend TNT Max stuff - that was very exciting back then! Exciting was just the word for Ascends. In the mid 90s, I cured lots of this excitement by putting my ascends on a socket timer which physically rebooted them a couple of times daily. The support load dropped off substantially due to that. Nick
Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
All I remember from the TNT days is the meltdown when Code Red happened. Why exactly an access platform should melt down when a worm occurs still bothers me. -Blake On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:44 AM, vinny_abe...@dell.com wrote: Dell - Internal Use - Confidential I personally never ran the Ascend gear (outside of a setting up a customer's Ascend Superpipe 95 dual ISDN router one time), but I heard that the TNT gear doubled as space heaters. I remember one facility we were in that had a catastrophic cooling failure and the temperatures went to insane levels. Our PM3's happily kept running and never had an issue where I heard every TNT box in the facility kept rebooting and crashing. -Vinny -Original Message- From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:22 PM To: Paul Stewart Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network? On 16/12/2013 21:09, Paul Stewart wrote: Back in the day (geesh I feel old just saying that), I deployed a lot of PM3’s …. Then we moved to Ascend TNT Max stuff - that was very exciting back then! Exciting was just the word for Ascends. In the mid 90s, I cured lots of this excitement by putting my ascends on a socket timer which physically rebooted them a couple of times daily. The support load dropped off substantially due to that. Nick
Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
That's the day we decided we needed better edge routers :-).. I watch a modem pool infected with code red melt a cisco 3640. Had to throw a Linux box in it's place while I waited for Cisco equipment. Sam Moats On 2013-12-17 09:54, Blake Dunlap wrote: All I remember from the TNT days is the meltdown when Code Red happened. Why exactly an access platform should melt down when a worm occurs still bothers me. -Blake On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:44 AM, vinny_abe...@dell.com wrote: Dell - Internal Use - Confidential I personally never ran the Ascend gear (outside of a setting up a customer's Ascend Superpipe 95 dual ISDN router one time), but I heard that the TNT gear doubled as space heaters. I remember one facility we were in that had a catastrophic cooling failure and the temperatures went to insane levels. Our PM3's happily kept running and never had an issue where I heard every TNT box in the facility kept rebooting and crashing. -Vinny -Original Message- From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:22 PM To: Paul Stewart Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network? On 16/12/2013 21:09, Paul Stewart wrote: Back in the day (geesh I feel old just saying that), I deployed a lot of PM3’s …. Then we moved to Ascend TNT Max stuff - that was very exciting back then! Exciting was just the word for Ascends. In the mid 90s, I cured lots of this excitement by putting my ascends on a socket timer which physically rebooted them a couple of times daily. The support load dropped off substantially due to that. Nick
RE: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
We had gear in the MFS Colo in Whippany, NJ. We had a couple routers (2501's and a 4700M), a couple PM3's, and some other crap. Near us were TNT's and Total Controls from ANS (remember them??). Yeah, it got warm in there, especially when the single 10 ton AC unit failed (about every other day). But, it was way more fun back then. -Original Message- From: vinny_abe...@dell.com [mailto:vinny_abe...@dell.com] Dell - Internal Use - Confidential I personally never ran the Ascend gear (outside of a setting up a customer's Ascend Superpipe 95 dual ISDN router one time), but I heard that the TNT gear doubled as space heaters. I remember one facility we were in that had a catastrophic cooling failure and the temperatures went to insane levels. Our PM3's happily kept running and never had an issue where I heard every TNT box in the facility kept rebooting and crashing. -Vinny
Re: do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 08:54:15 -0600, Blake Dunlap said: All I remember from the TNT days is the meltdown when Code Red happened. Why exactly an access platform should melt down when a worm occurs still bothers me. Have we gotten any better at control plane meltdown when somebody starts poking lots of multicast addresses per second? pgp2rNb_28X12.pgp Description: PGP signature
