Re: Saying goodnight to my GSR

2014-09-22 Thread Alain Hebert
Well,

I think it was just blind fear talking.

Properly configured, it is less a security issue than newer devices.

Pretty impressive from Matthew to have the patience/skills to not
simply reload that fridge over the years.

On 09/20/14 16:25, Keith Medcalf wrote:
 And what, exactly, is it vulnerable to?

 -Original Message-
 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Sterling
 Sent: Saturday, 20 September, 2014 12:06
 To: Bacon Zombie
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Saying goodnight to my GSR

 Again, you're focusing resentment towards someone who did the right
 thing. Negative reinforcement will discourage others from taking
 action and will discourage them from encouraging others to take
 action.

 Let's focus on who still has vulnerable equipment and how to help
 them. Let's not shame people who did the right thing

 Thanks,
 Dan


 On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Bacon Zombie baconzom...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 OK thank you for decommissioning this.*

 * Only if you either had authority to do so for max 1 year or had no
 authority but were fighting to have it patches or replaced for years.
 On Sep 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Daniel Sterling sterling.dan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Bacon Zombie baconzom...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 So when was the last time you patched this internet facing device?
 Isn't the better response, thank you for decommissioning it?

 Can someone from cisco set up a poll or release whatever numbers they
 have about how many of these old devices are still in service?

 Thanks,
 Dan







RE: Saying goodnight to my GSR

2014-09-22 Thread David Hubbard
Got you beat by nine weeks with a Foundry 9604. :-)

#sh ver
  SW: Version 03.3.01aTc1 Copyright (c) 1996-2004 Foundry Networks, Inc.
  Compiled on Feb 01 2005 at 11:21:12 labeled as FES03301a
  (2057881 bytes) from Primary foundry-FES/FES03301a.bin
  Boot Monitor: Version 03.2.00Tc4
  HW: Stackable FES9604

==
  Serial #: 
  330 MHz Power PC processor 8245 (version 129/1014) 66 MHz bus
  512 KB boot flash memory
16384 KB code flash memory
  128 MB DRAM
The system uptime is 3411 days 7 hours 52 minutes 20 seconds 
The system started at 01:38:44 Eastern Sat May 21 2005

The system : started=warm start   reloaded=by reload



Poor thing just handles traffic for managed power strips and we haven't
had the heart to replace it lol.

David


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
Crocker
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:19 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Saying goodnight to my GSR


Has been running for a while, time to shut 'er down.   She (is a router
a she?) used to handle all of my BGP GigE links but over the years has
been demoted to OSPF and T1 aggregation.

If anyone needs a boat anchor let me know.

gsr8-1#show version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) GS Software
(GSR-P-M), Version 12.0(30)S3, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support:
http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2005 by cisco
Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 30-Jun-05 18:29 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x50010E80, data-base: 0x536E8000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.2(20030108:132517) [jkuzma-112 2.2]
RELEASE SOFTWARE

 gsr8-1 uptime is 9 years, 9 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes Uptime
for this control processor is 9 years, 2 weeks, 2 days, 18 minutes
System returned to ROM by Stateful Switchover at 13:46:36 UTC Tue Sep 6
2005 System image file is slot0:gsr-p-mz.120-30.S3.bin

cisco 12008/GRP (R5000) processor (revision 0x05) with 524288K bytes of
memory.
R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1, 512KB L2 Cache Last
reset from power-on

2 Route Processor Cards
2 Clock Scheduler Cards
3 Switch Fabric Cards
2 Single Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controllers (2
GigabitEthernet).
1 Three Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controller (3
GigabitEthernet).
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
5 GigabitEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 507K bytes of non-volatile
configuration memory.

20480K bytes of Flash PCMCIA card at slot 0 (Sector size 128K).
8192K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
Configuration register is 0x2102



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RE: Saying goodnight to my GSR

2014-09-22 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, David Hubbard wrote:


Got you beat by nine weeks with a Foundry 9604. :-)


I might have a Cat5505 or two on our out-of-band management network with 
uptimes that approach this.


jms


#sh ver
 SW: Version 03.3.01aTc1 Copyright (c) 1996-2004 Foundry Networks, Inc.
 Compiled on Feb 01 2005 at 11:21:12 labeled as FES03301a
 (2057881 bytes) from Primary foundry-FES/FES03301a.bin
 Boot Monitor: Version 03.2.00Tc4
 HW: Stackable FES9604

==
 Serial #:
 330 MHz Power PC processor 8245 (version 129/1014) 66 MHz bus
 512 KB boot flash memory
16384 KB code flash memory
 128 MB DRAM
The system uptime is 3411 days 7 hours 52 minutes 20 seconds
The system started at 01:38:44 Eastern Sat May 21 2005

The system : started=warm start   reloaded=by reload



Poor thing just handles traffic for managed power strips and we haven't
had the heart to replace it lol.

David


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
Crocker
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:19 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Saying goodnight to my GSR


Has been running for a while, time to shut 'er down.   She (is a router
a she?) used to handle all of my BGP GigE links but over the years has
been demoted to OSPF and T1 aggregation.

If anyone needs a boat anchor let me know.

gsr8-1#show version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) GS Software
(GSR-P-M), Version 12.0(30)S3, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support:
http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2005 by cisco
Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 30-Jun-05 18:29 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x50010E80, data-base: 0x536E8000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.2(20030108:132517) [jkuzma-112 2.2]
RELEASE SOFTWARE

gsr8-1 uptime is 9 years, 9 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes Uptime
for this control processor is 9 years, 2 weeks, 2 days, 18 minutes
System returned to ROM by Stateful Switchover at 13:46:36 UTC Tue Sep 6
2005 System image file is slot0:gsr-p-mz.120-30.S3.bin

cisco 12008/GRP (R5000) processor (revision 0x05) with 524288K bytes of
memory.
R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1, 512KB L2 Cache Last
reset from power-on

2 Route Processor Cards
2 Clock Scheduler Cards
3 Switch Fabric Cards
2 Single Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controllers (2
GigabitEthernet).
1 Three Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controller (3
GigabitEthernet).
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
5 GigabitEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 507K bytes of non-volatile
configuration memory.

20480K bytes of Flash PCMCIA card at slot 0 (Sector size 128K).
8192K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
Configuration register is 0x2102



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President
Crocker Communications, Inc.
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Greenfield, MA 01302-0710

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RE: IP Geolocation Issue

2014-09-22 Thread Jose Damian Cantu Davila
Thanks to everyone for the advise and the information.

Already got in touch with someone of Maxmind.

Damian.
IAR.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com] 
Sent: domingo, 21 de septiembre de 2014 10:22 a.m.
To: Alex Wacker
Cc: Jose Damian Cantu Davila; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: IP Geolocation Issue


Good luck with that.  My past experience with them (while not as bad as dealing 
with certain fast-n-loose RBLs) has been less than encouraging.

-r

Alex Wacker a...@alexwacker.com writes:

 You can submit corrections to maxmind here:
 https://www.maxmind.com/en/correction

 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Jose Damian Cantu Davila jca...@nic.mx 
 wrote:
 Hi, Im new here, so any advice would be very appreciated.

 Is someone from Maxmind IP Geolocation available, that I can talk to offline?

 Its regarding to a block we assigned to a client. The client and its 
 customers are located in Mexico but the IP Geolocation services says they 
 are located in Brazil.

 Thanks for your help.

 [damian cantu]



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RE: Saying goodnight to my GSR

2014-09-22 Thread Drew Weaver
The best thing about having GSRs around is trading them in for ASR 9900s.

The freight is a ding, though.

-Drew


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:19 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Saying goodnight to my GSR


Has been running for a while, time to shut 'er down.   She (is a router a she?) 
used to handle all of my BGP GigE links but over the years has been demoted to 
OSPF and T1 aggregation.

If anyone needs a boat anchor let me know.

gsr8-1#show version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) GS Software (GSR-P-M), 
Version 12.0(30)S3, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: 
http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2005 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 30-Jun-05 18:29 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x50010E80, data-base: 0x536E8000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.2(20030108:132517) [jkuzma-112 2.2] RELEASE 
SOFTWARE

 gsr8-1 uptime is 9 years, 9 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes Uptime for this 
control processor is 9 years, 2 weeks, 2 days, 18 minutes System returned to 
ROM by Stateful Switchover at 13:46:36 UTC Tue Sep 6 2005 System image file is 
slot0:gsr-p-mz.120-30.S3.bin

cisco 12008/GRP (R5000) processor (revision 0x05) with 524288K bytes of memory.
R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1, 512KB L2 Cache Last reset from 
power-on

2 Route Processor Cards
2 Clock Scheduler Cards
3 Switch Fabric Cards
2 Single Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controllers (2 GigabitEthernet).
1 Three Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controller (3 GigabitEthernet).
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
5 GigabitEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 507K bytes of non-volatile 
configuration memory.

20480K bytes of Flash PCMCIA card at slot 0 (Sector size 128K).
8192K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
Configuration register is 0x2102



--
Matthew S. Crocker
President
Crocker Communications, Inc.
PO BOX 710
Greenfield, MA 01302-0710

E: matt...@crocker.com
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RE: Saying goodnight to my GSR

2014-09-22 Thread Jim Devane
They make great fish tanks in their second lives, although uptime stats are 
more general recollection for me now.

http://postimg.org/image/xdyp4o6p7/



-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+jdevane=switchnap@nanog.org] On Behalf Of 
Drew Weaver
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:58 AM
To: 'Matthew Crocker'
Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: RE: Saying goodnight to my GSR

The best thing about having GSRs around is trading them in for ASR 9900s.

The freight is a ding, though.

-Drew


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:19 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Saying goodnight to my GSR


Has been running for a while, time to shut 'er down.   She (is a router a she?) 
used to handle all of my BGP GigE links but over the years has been demoted to 
OSPF and T1 aggregation.

If anyone needs a boat anchor let me know.

gsr8-1#show version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) GS Software (GSR-P-M), 
Version 12.0(30)S3, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: 
http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2005 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 30-Jun-05 18:29 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x50010E80, data-base: 0x536E8000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.2(20030108:132517) [jkuzma-112 2.2] RELEASE 
SOFTWARE

 gsr8-1 uptime is 9 years, 9 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes Uptime for this 
control processor is 9 years, 2 weeks, 2 days, 18 minutes System returned to 
ROM by Stateful Switchover at 13:46:36 UTC Tue Sep 6 2005 System image file is 
slot0:gsr-p-mz.120-30.S3.bin

cisco 12008/GRP (R5000) processor (revision 0x05) with 524288K bytes of memory.
R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1, 512KB L2 Cache Last reset from 
power-on

2 Route Processor Cards
2 Clock Scheduler Cards
3 Switch Fabric Cards
2 Single Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controllers (2 GigabitEthernet).
1 Three Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controller (3 GigabitEthernet).
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
5 GigabitEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 507K bytes of non-volatile 
configuration memory.

20480K bytes of Flash PCMCIA card at slot 0 (Sector size 128K).
8192K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
Configuration register is 0x2102



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Matthew S. Crocker
President
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PO BOX 710
Greenfield, MA 01302-0710

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Twitter appears inop

2014-09-22 Thread Jay Ashworth
I'm getting various 403 messages on tweets about looks automated, from
Tweetcaster and the Web UI, both over Sprint LTE from Tampa; anyone else
seeing this?

Retrieval seems ok; the web UI loads fine too.  Appears internal.

I would notify them, but Twitter is down.

Cheers,
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RE: Saying goodnight to my GSR

2014-09-22 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Jim Devane wrote:


They make great fish tanks in their second lives, although uptime stats are more 
general recollection for me now.

http://postimg.org/image/xdyp4o6p7/


Reminds me of a kegerator I saw many moons ago, made out of a hollowed-out 
Wellfleet BCN ;)


jms


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+jdevane=switchnap@nanog.org] On Behalf Of 
Drew Weaver
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:58 AM
To: 'Matthew Crocker'
Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: RE: Saying goodnight to my GSR

The best thing about having GSRs around is trading them in for ASR 9900s.

The freight is a ding, though.

-Drew


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:19 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Saying goodnight to my GSR


Has been running for a while, time to shut 'er down.   She (is a router a she?) 
used to handle all of my BGP GigE links but over the years has been demoted to 
OSPF and T1 aggregation.

If anyone needs a boat anchor let me know.

gsr8-1#show version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) GS Software (GSR-P-M), 
Version 12.0(30)S3, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: 
http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2005 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 30-Jun-05 18:29 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x50010E80, data-base: 0x536E8000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.2(20030108:132517) [jkuzma-112 2.2] RELEASE 
SOFTWARE

gsr8-1 uptime is 9 years, 9 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes Uptime for this control 
processor is 9 years, 2 weeks, 2 days, 18 minutes System returned to ROM by Stateful 
Switchover at 13:46:36 UTC Tue Sep 6 2005 System image file is 
slot0:gsr-p-mz.120-30.S3.bin

cisco 12008/GRP (R5000) processor (revision 0x05) with 524288K bytes of memory.
R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1, 512KB L2 Cache Last reset from 
power-on

2 Route Processor Cards
2 Clock Scheduler Cards
3 Switch Fabric Cards
2 Single Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controllers (2 GigabitEthernet).
1 Three Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controller (3 GigabitEthernet).
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
5 GigabitEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 507K bytes of non-volatile 
configuration memory.

20480K bytes of Flash PCMCIA card at slot 0 (Sector size 128K).
8192K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
Configuration register is 0x2102



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Re: Saying goodnight to my GSR

2014-09-22 Thread Ken Matlock
Ha! I'd say that's an upgrade for the BCN! ;-)

I still have nightmares about Site Mangler, and conflicting versions
between it and the BCN/BLNs.

Ken

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Justin M. Streiner 
strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Jim Devane wrote:

  They make great fish tanks in their second lives, although uptime stats
 are more general recollection for me now.

 http://postimg.org/image/xdyp4o6p7/


 Reminds me of a kegerator I saw many moons ago, made out of a hollowed-out
 Wellfleet BCN ;)

 jms


  -Original Message-
 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+jdevane=switchnap@nanog.org] On
 Behalf Of Drew Weaver
 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:58 AM
 To: 'Matthew Crocker'
 Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
 Subject: RE: Saying goodnight to my GSR

 The best thing about having GSRs around is trading them in for ASR 9900s.

 The freight is a ding, though.

 -Drew


 -Original Message-
 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:19 AM
 To: NANOG
 Subject: Saying goodnight to my GSR


 Has been running for a while, time to shut 'er down.   She (is a router a
 she?) used to handle all of my BGP GigE links but over the years has been
 demoted to OSPF and T1 aggregation.

 If anyone needs a boat anchor let me know.

 gsr8-1#show version
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) GS Software
 (GSR-P-M), Version 12.0(30)S3, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support:
 http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2005 by cisco
 Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Thu 30-Jun-05 18:29 by pwade
 Image text-base: 0x50010E80, data-base: 0x536E8000

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.2(20030108:132517) [jkuzma-112 2.2]
 RELEASE SOFTWARE

 gsr8-1 uptime is 9 years, 9 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes Uptime for
 this control processor is 9 years, 2 weeks, 2 days, 18 minutes System
 returned to ROM by Stateful Switchover at 13:46:36 UTC Tue Sep 6 2005
 System image file is slot0:gsr-p-mz.120-30.S3.bin

 cisco 12008/GRP (R5000) processor (revision 0x05) with 524288K bytes of
 memory.
 R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1, 512KB L2 Cache Last
 reset from power-on

 2 Route Processor Cards
 2 Clock Scheduler Cards
 3 Switch Fabric Cards
 2 Single Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controllers (2
 GigabitEthernet).
 1 Three Port Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3z controller (3 GigabitEthernet).
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 5 GigabitEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 507K bytes of non-volatile
 configuration memory.

 20480K bytes of Flash PCMCIA card at slot 0 (Sector size 128K).
 8192K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
 Configuration register is 0x2102



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 President
 Crocker Communications, Inc.
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Re: Saying goodnight to my GSR

2014-09-22 Thread Larry Sheldon

On 9/22/2014 06:38, Alain Hebert wrote:

  Properly configured, it is less a security issue than newer devices.

 Pretty impressive from Matthew to have the patience/skills to not
simply reload that fridge over the years.


Whew!  I was afraid I was the one who thought so anymore.

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Re: Saying goodnight to my GSR

2014-09-22 Thread Larry Sheldon

On 9/22/2014 08:35, David Hubbard wrote:

Got you beat by nine weeks with a Foundry 9604. :-)



The system uptime is 3411 days 7 hours 52 minutes 20 seconds
The system started at 01:38:44 Eastern Sat May 21 2005


That's the kind of waving I like to see.
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IPV6 Multicast Listener storm control?

2014-09-22 Thread Richard Holbo
(originally posted to wispa ipv6 list, and someone there mentioned that
folks here might have some suggestions, so apologize if you are a member of
both.)

I am seeing issues with IPV6 multicast storms in my network that are fairly
low volume (1-2mbit), but that are causing service disruptions due to CPU
load on the switches and that the network is a Point to MultiPoint wireless
network.

I have about 500 IPV4 clients on a vlan served by Cisco ME3400, Catalyst
3750 and 3560 switches.  These are switched back to a routed interface and
IP addresses are assigned by DHCP.  We are not using IPV6 at all, and I
don't have control of the clients.

What I'm seeing is IPV6 Multicast Listener requests from a single client
(different clients at different times) going out on the network, the
switches manage them in software, so CPU goes up (not a lot, but it seems
to impact performance quite a bit), but the larger problem is that all
other IPV6 clients respond to the multicast broadcast address generating a
1-2mbit storm of traffic to all ports all the time.  This then transits the
bandwidth constrained wireless network in a steady state, causing high
collisions which causes _significant_ performance degradation in the
wireless network.

It would appear that this is _generally_ caused by Dell or HP workstations
with buggy network interface cards in hibernate mode.

http://blog.bimajority.org/2014/09/05/the-network-nightmare-that-ate-my-week/

http://packetpushers.net/good-nics-bad-things-blast-ipv6-multicast-listener-discovery-queries/

Now it looks like from my reading that CISCO MLD snooping would _help_ with
this, though it would not stop the offender from generating the multicast
requests, it might keep if from reaching _all_ ports, but it would still
affect any ports that had _subscribed_ IPV6 clients, and it would require
changing the SDM template and a reload on all the switches.  So not a real
answer and very painful.

Right now, I'm just tracking the source down and shutting it off.  Do not
really want to get into an argument about switched vs routed, and am
working on reducing the size of the broadcast domain now, but this is a new
issue, and I need to come up with some kind of plan to resolve with my
current equipment/network.

Any thoughts?? Ideas?  I suspect this will become more of an issue for more
folks in the near future.

/thanks

-- 
Richard Holbo
Southern Oregon Network Support Services
richard.ho...@sonss.net - 541.890.8067
http://www.sonss.net


Re: IPV6 Multicast Listener storm control?

2014-09-22 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Richard Holbo wrote:


Now it looks like from my reading that CISCO MLD snooping would _help_ with
this, though it would not stop the offender from generating the multicast
requests, it might keep if from reaching _all_ ports, but it would still


If the packets are sent to ff02::1, then this will be sent to all ports 
even with MLD snooping turned on.


http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4541.txt

In IPv6, the data forwarding rules are more straight forward because
   MLD is mandated for addresses with scope 2 (link-scope) or greater.
   The only exception is the address FF02::1 which is the all hosts
   link-scope address for which MLD messages are never sent.  Packets
   with the all hosts link-scope address should be forwarded on all
   ports.

So I doubt turning on MLD snooping will help.

Your switches, can't you do some kind of protocol based filtering, and 
only allow two ethertypes, ARP and IPv4?


--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se


RE: IPV6 Multicast Listener storm control?

2014-09-22 Thread Naslund, Steve
We have seen the same issue with Lenovo devices.  They all seem to have a 
variety of Intel chipsets.  We have not found a good solution other than 
updating drivers and/or shutting down ipv6 which we really don’t want to do but 
it is easier to automate that than to automate the driver update.  I will be 
interested in seeing what anyone else has come up with to kill these off.  In 
our case, the biggest issue is wireless clients that show this behavior because 
they really bury the access points CPU.  The switched network seems to absorb 
the load better.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL

 (originally posted to wispa ipv6 list, and someone there mentioned that 
 folks here might have some suggestions, so apologize if you are a member of
both.)

I am seeing issues with IPV6 multicast storms in my network that are fairly 
low volume (1-2mbit), but that are causing service disruptions due to CPU 
load on the switches and that the network is a Point to MultiPoint 
wireless network.

I have about 500 IPV4 clients on a vlan served by Cisco ME3400, Catalyst
3750 and 3560 switches.  These are switched back to a routed interface and 
IP addresses are assigned by DHCP.  We are not using IPV6 at all, and I 
don't have control of the clients.

What I'm seeing is IPV6 Multicast Listener requests from a single client 
(different clients at different times) going out on the network, the 
switches manage them in software, so CPU goes up (not a lot, but it seems 
to impact performance quite a bit), but the larger problem is that all other 
IPV6 clients respond to the multicast broadcast address generating a 
1-2mbit storm of traffic to all ports all the time.  This then transits the 
bandwidth constrained wireless network in a steady state, causing high 
collisions which causes _significant_ performance degradation in the 
wireless network.