Re: Brocade MLX Feedback
Graham, We have several Brocades - including XMR, CER, and CES devices. Their convergence is excellent, even with several full v4 and v6 tables, and was much faster than other platforms (I'm looking at you MXs...). In terms of TCAM and convergence, best bang for the buck as they say. One 'gotcha' we discovered: Brocade does not have, as per our last discussion with them, BGP FlowSpec on the road map. That was a problem for us, but YMMV. Cheers, Jeff On 1/14/2015 1:10 PM, Graham Johnston wrote: We are looking at Brocade MLX routers to act as Internet edge routers. They will initially handle two to four full tables, plus peering on an IX. The price is certainly attractive. We are coming from Cisco 7600 series devices. Can anyone comment about their use of them? Are you happy with them? Any gotchas? Particularly we are interested in convergence time to full FIB population. Thanks, Graham Johnston Network Planner Westman Communications Group 204.717.2829 johnst...@westmancom.commailto:johnst...@westmancom.com P think green; don't print this email. -- Jeff Sorrels Network Administrator KanREN, Inc jlsorr...@kanren.net 785-856-9820, #2
Re: discussing how to stop hacking is hacking which is now racketeering
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Ken Chase m...@sizone.org wrote: http://blog.erratasec.com/2015/01/obams-war-on-hackers.html Therefore, immediate end of this thread? Are all subscribers to this list now to be inconvenienced at airports? (Sorry, my bad.) Do we all need a CCNP Security-multipass to log into IRC now? Which channels are now a good idea to avoid? #linux? #bitcoin? #nanog? #obamasucks? #blacklivesmatter? (in Canada #idlenomore is similar and equally targetted by Palantir/Tempests as the latter was). What constitutes racketeering in 'communication'? Membership on a mailing list or just reading a webpage? [ This week I was investigating a colleague's website, so I ran dig(1) in a bash terminal in putty - she saw a text terminal, and exclaimed Wait, stop, are you hacking my website?! I blame Sandra Bullock and to a lesser extent Carrie Ann Moss (and the nmap crew, esp. for using actually-plausible toolsets/techniques). ] This is an age old game, but the ante has just been upped. Our industry should respond to this. One has to wonder how any of this applies to the 'countries that hack' accusations that the FBI/CIA/NSA have always laid claim to. -Jim P.
Brocade MLX Feedback
We are looking at Brocade MLX routers to act as Internet edge routers. They will initially handle two to four full tables, plus peering on an IX. The price is certainly attractive. We are coming from Cisco 7600 series devices. Can anyone comment about their use of them? Are you happy with them? Any gotchas? Particularly we are interested in convergence time to full FIB population. Thanks, Graham Johnston Network Planner Westman Communications Group 204.717.2829 johnst...@westmancom.commailto:johnst...@westmancom.com P think green; don't print this email.
Re: Brocade MLX Feedback
Hi, the devices are good. Just read up about gen 1, gen1.1 and gen 2 modules in regard to backplane mode. Afaik Gen1 Modules are discontinued now so all modules should work in turbo mode. I don't know which cam profile is the current default so that needs repartitioning and default values adjusted if you run full table IPv4. SNMP for IPv6 BGP neighbors is still missing in software version 5.6 so monitoring these sessions is not possible. Best regards Karsten 2015-01-14 20:10 GMT+01:00 Graham Johnston johnst...@westmancom.com: We are looking at Brocade MLX routers to act as Internet edge routers. They will initially handle two to four full tables, plus peering on an IX. The price is certainly attractive. We are coming from Cisco 7600 series devices. Can anyone comment about their use of them? Are you happy with them? Any gotchas? Particularly we are interested in convergence time to full FIB population. Thanks, Graham Johnston Network Planner Westman Communications Group 204.717.2829 johnst...@westmancom.commailto:johnst...@westmancom.com P think green; don't print this email.
[NANOG-announce] NANOG 63 Update
NANOGers, We are beginning our final preparations in support of NANOG 63, February 2-4, 2015 in San Antonio, TX. A few highlights and reminders follow: The NANOG 63 Agenda https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog63/agendais posted, with updates being provided as warranted. he Conference Registration Fee https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog63/registration will increase soon, so be sure to register now. Also, take a moment to join NANOG https://www.nanog.org/membership or renew your existing Membership. - Standard Registration starting January 16, 2015 - (non-member $525, member $500, student $100) - Late Registration starting January 23, 2015 - (non-member $600, member $575, student $100) - On-Site Registration starting January 30, 2015 - (non-member $675, member $650, student $100) The conference hotel https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog63/hotelinformation (Marriott Rivercenter) room block rate is set to expire on Friday, 5 pm CST, January 16, 2015, be sure to get your reservation made ASAP. We welcome those attendees https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog63/attendees and conference sponsors https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog63/sponsors already planning to join us for NANOG 63. We encourage those not yet registered to do so, and join us for what will be another great February NANOG meeting! Should you have any questions, contact us at nanog-supp...@nanog.org Sincerely, Betty Betty Burke NANOG Executive Director 48377 Fremont Boulevard, Suite 117 Fremont, CA 94538 Tel: +1 510 492 4030 ___ NANOG-announce mailing list nanog-annou...@mailman.nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce
Re: discussing how to stop hacking is hacking which is now racketeering
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Andrew D Kirch trel...@trelane.net wrote: On Jan 14, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Ken Chase m...@sizone.org wrote: http://blog.erratasec.com/2015/01/obams-war-on-hackers.html Therefore, immediate end of this thread? Are all subscribers to this list now to be inconvenienced at airports? (Sorry, my bad.) Do we all need a CCNP Security-multipass to log into IRC now? Which channels are now a good idea to avoid? #linux? #bitcoin? #nanog? #obamasucks? #blacklivesmatter? (in Canada #idlenomore is similar and equally targetted by Palantir/Tempests as the latter was). What constitutes racketeering in 'communication'? Membership on a mailing list or just reading a webpage? [ This week I was investigating a colleague's website, so I ran dig(1) in a bash terminal in putty - she saw a text terminal, and exclaimed Wait, stop, are you hacking my website?! I blame Sandra Bullock and to a lesser extent Carrie Ann Moss (and the nmap crew, esp. for using actually-plausible toolsets/techniques). ] This is an age old game, but the ante has just been upped. Our industry should respond to this. One has to wonder how any of this applies to the 'countries that hack' accusations that the FBI/CIA/NSA have always laid claim to. -Jim P. Jim- You mean the credits page for Stuxnet? :-) I do mean any and nearly everything the USG has told us about how evil hackers reside in RU, CN, and DPRK and prey on Mil computers. -Jim P.
RE: Brocade MLX Feedback
These are great routers. I used the MLX16s in the same capacity, before the newer model MLXe with upgraded management card specs. Should work just fine for that. Thank you, Jordan Medlen Network Engineer Bisk Education, Inc. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Graham Johnston Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 2:10 PM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' Subject: Brocade MLX Feedback We are looking at Brocade MLX routers to act as Internet edge routers. They will initially handle two to four full tables, plus peering on an IX. The price is certainly attractive. We are coming from Cisco 7600 series devices. Can anyone comment about their use of them? Are you happy with them? Any gotchas? Particularly we are interested in convergence time to full FIB population. Thanks, Graham Johnston Network Planner Westman Communications Group 204.717.2829 johnst...@westmancom.commailto:johnst...@westmancom.com P think green; don't print this email.
Re: Brocade MLX Feedback
Hi Graham, Do you have any special features you need? MLX-e's are great and fulfill most standard environments fine. Full table convergence time is pretty fast on MLX-e's. Be sure to pick the right modules, switch fabrics and management blades (or contact a partner to do it for you) when you go for a mlx-e. You may want to consider the CER-RT (fixed 1U box) if you dont need a modular chassis. On 14 January 2015 at 20:10, Graham Johnston johnst...@westmancom.com wrote: We are looking at Brocade MLX routers to act as Internet edge routers. They will initially handle two to four full tables, plus peering on an IX. The price is certainly attractive. We are coming from Cisco 7600 series devices. Can anyone comment about their use of them? Are you happy with them? Any gotchas? Particularly we are interested in convergence time to full FIB population. Thanks, Graham Johnston Network Planner Westman Communications Group 204.717.2829 johnst...@westmancom.commailto:johnst...@westmancom.com P think green; don't print this email. -- Wouter Prins w...@null0.nl
RE: Brocade MLX Feedback
I got a few CERs and 7600's You will not notice the CPU lag anymore like in the 7600's Extremely fast and puts the 7600's to shame -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Graham Johnston Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 2:10 PM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' Subject: Brocade MLX Feedback We are looking at Brocade MLX routers to act as Internet edge routers. They will initially handle two to four full tables, plus peering on an IX. The price is certainly attractive. We are coming from Cisco 7600 series devices. Can anyone comment about their use of them? Are you happy with them? Any gotchas? Particularly we are interested in convergence time to full FIB population. Thanks, Graham Johnston Network Planner Westman Communications Group 204.717.2829 johnst...@westmancom.commailto:johnst...@westmancom.com P think green; don't print this email.
RE: VDSL CPE Mixed Results
We've used a few Zhone ETHX-344x4 (http://www.zhone.com/products/ETHX-3400/) and been happy with the reliability. Configuration was a bugger, but if you get one of those I can share my template. Frank -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Stetson Blake Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:29 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: VDSL CPE Mixed Results Hey All, We have been deploying Adtran 838(shdsl) and 868(dsl) units in our metro area with mixed results. The devices themselves are reliable and secure it would seem, but the speeds were are able to get are not. ie. we have deployed 'vdsl' and needed 3 lines to get up to 10x10 speeds. We are using an Adtran TA5000 on the other end to terminate our connections. The distance between the site and CO is not great (under 6k feet). What gives? Are we provisioning wrong, using the wrong equipment, or a combination of both? If we were able to get the speeds others have been reporting from VDSL, life would be great. Anyone feel free to contact me off-list or on, this has had me scratching my head for a while now. Thanks, -- Stetson Blake Network Technician DataYard 130 West Second St. Suite 250 Dayton, OH 45402 http://datayardworks.com
