RE: DDoS auto-mitigation best practices (for eyeball networks)

[frnkblk]

99% of the attacks we see are gaming related -- somehow the other players
know the IP and then attack our customer for an advantage in the game, or
retribution.

Most DHCP servers (correctly) give the same IP address if the CPE is
rebooted.  Ours are one of those. =)

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Mehmet Akcin [mailto:meh...@akcin.net] 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:10 PM
To: Frank Bulk 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: DDoS auto-mitigation best practices (for eyeball networks)

How does he/she become target? How does IP address gets exposed?

I guess simplest way is to reboot modem and hope to get new ip (or call n
request)

Mehmet 

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 12:54, Frank Bulk  wrote:
> 
> Could the community share some DDoS auto-mitigation best practices for
> eyeball networks, where the target is a residential broadband subscriber?
> I'm not asking so much about the customer communication as much as
> configuration of any thresholds or settings, such as:
> - minimum traffic volume before responding (for volumetric attacks)
> - minimum time to wait before responding
> - filter percentage: 100% of the traffic toward target (or if volumetric,
> just a certain percentage)?
> - time before mitigation is automatically removed
> - and if the attack should recur shortly thereafter, time to respond and
> remove again
> - use of an upstream provider(s) mitigation services versus one's own
> mitigation tools
> - network placement of mitigation (presumably upstream as possible)
> - and anything else
> 
> I ask about best practice for broadband subscribers on eyeball networks
> because it's different environment than data center and hosting
environments
> or when one's network is being used to DDoS a target.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Frank
> 

Re: Skype off line ??

[Pui Edylie]

Reporting the same from Singapore

Sent from TypeMail



On Sep 21, 2015, 18:27, at 18:27, Max Tulyev  wrote:
>For me yes, it is down for several hours.
>
>BTW, is there any Jabber/XMPP client with similar usability?
>
>I need just scroll up to view all history and one click to join someone
>to multiuser conference in fact.
>
>On 21.09.15 11:32, Marco Paesani wrote:
>> Hi,
>> do you have sone news about it ?
>> Best regards,
>> 

Re: Skype off line ??

[Max Tulyev]

For me yes, it is down for several hours.

BTW, is there any Jabber/XMPP client with similar usability?

I need just scroll up to view all history and one click to join someone
to multiuser conference in fact.

On 21.09.15 11:32, Marco Paesani wrote:
> Hi,
> do you have sone news about it ?
> Best regards,
> 

Re: Skype off line ??

[Max Tulyev]

Google hangouts and jit.si are services, not a client of open protocol.

Feel the difference.

On 21.09.15 13:47, Murat Kaipov wrote:
> 
>  You ca use Google Hangouts, but I don't know about multiuser conference.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:27 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Skype off line ??
> 
> For me yes, it is down for several hours.
> 
> BTW, is there any Jabber/XMPP client with similar usability?
> 
> I need just scroll up to view all history and one click to join someone to 
> multiuser conference in fact.
> 
> On 21.09.15 11:32, Marco Paesani wrote:
>> Hi,
>> do you have sone news about it ?
>> Best regards,
>>
> 
> 

Re: Skype off line ??

[zaphodb]

On 2015-09-21 12:58, Max Tulyev wrote:

Google hangouts and jit.si are services, not a client of open protocol.

Feel the difference.


Well you can set a server wide default for Jabber/XMPP MUC chats at 
least with ejabberd.

https://www.process-one.net/docs/ejabberd/guide_en.html#htoc50
"history_size: Size
A small history of the current discussion is sent to users when they 
enter the room. With this option you can define the number of history 
messages to keep and send to users joining the room. The value is an 
integer. Setting the value to 0 disables the history feature and, as a 
result, nothing is kept in memory. The default value is 20. This value 
is global and thus affects all rooms on the service."


Thats not quite the same though as you get with Skype where i think the 
history gets synced in a bi-directional fashion.


kind regards,

 Stefan



On 21.09.15 13:47, Murat Kaipov wrote:


 You ca use Google Hangouts, but I don't know about multiuser 
conference.


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:27 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Skype off line ??

For me yes, it is down for several hours.

BTW, is there any Jabber/XMPP client with similar usability?

I need just scroll up to view all history and one click to join 
someone to multiuser conference in fact.


On 21.09.15 11:32, Marco Paesani wrote:

Hi,
do you have sone news about it ?
Best regards,

Re: Skype off line ??

[Wolfgang Tremmel]

> On 21.09.2015, at 12:35, Alejandro Acosta  
> wrote:
> 
> The same from Spain

Desktop client login not possible (Germany)
Web client works fine

Wolfgang

RE: Skype off line ??

[Murat Kaipov]

 You ca use Google Hangouts, but I don't know about multiuser conference.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:27 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Skype off line ??

For me yes, it is down for several hours.

BTW, is there any Jabber/XMPP client with similar usability?

I need just scroll up to view all history and one click to join someone to 
multiuser conference in fact.

On 21.09.15 11:32, Marco Paesani wrote:
> Hi,
> do you have sone news about it ?
> Best regards,
> 

Re: Skype off line ??

[Max Tulyev]

This is the question, yes.

But if it will be possible just to scroll up all the history stored by
client - it will be great! Everything I saw was history accessible
through tricky hidden (as user said) menu, not by "just scroll up in the
window".

On 21.09.15 14:21, zaph...@zaphods.net wrote:
> On 2015-09-21 12:58, Max Tulyev wrote:
>> Google hangouts and jit.si are services, not a client of open protocol.
>>
>> Feel the difference.
> 
> Well you can set a server wide default for Jabber/XMPP MUC chats at
> least with ejabberd.
> https://www.process-one.net/docs/ejabberd/guide_en.html#htoc50
> "history_size: Size
> A small history of the current discussion is sent to users when they
> enter the room. With this option you can define the number of history
> messages to keep and send to users joining the room. The value is an
> integer. Setting the value to 0 disables the history feature and, as a
> result, nothing is kept in memory. The default value is 20. This value
> is global and thus affects all rooms on the service."
> 
> Thats not quite the same though as you get with Skype where i think the
> history gets synced in a bi-directional fashion.
> 
> kind regards,
> 
>  Stefan
> 
> 
>> On 21.09.15 13:47, Murat Kaipov wrote:
>>>
>>>  You ca use Google Hangouts, but I don't know about multiuser
>>> conference.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev
>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:27 PM
>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>>> Subject: Re: Skype off line ??
>>>
>>> For me yes, it is down for several hours.
>>>
>>> BTW, is there any Jabber/XMPP client with similar usability?
>>>
>>> I need just scroll up to view all history and one click to join
>>> someone to multiuser conference in fact.
>>>
>>> On 21.09.15 11:32, Marco Paesani wrote:
 Hi,
 do you have sone news about it ?
 Best regards,

>>>
>>>
> 
> 

Re: Skype off line ??

[Alejandro Acosta]

The same from Spain

El 9/21/2015 a las 6:00 AM, Pui Edylie escribió:
> Reporting the same from Singapore
>
> Sent from TypeMail
>
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2015, 18:27, at 18:27, Max Tulyev  wrote:
>> For me yes, it is down for several hours.
>>
>> BTW, is there any Jabber/XMPP client with similar usability?
>>
>> I need just scroll up to view all history and one click to join someone
>> to multiuser conference in fact.
>>
>> On 21.09.15 11:32, Marco Paesani wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> do you have sone news about it ?
>>> Best regards,
>>>

Re: IX Peering - BGP Session Filtering Best Practice

[Paul WALL]

You might want to check out Console by IIX (www.iix.net).

They are re-shaping peering automation with SDN.

Drive Slow,
Paul WALL

On 9/21/15, Erik Sundberg  wrote:
> Just wondering how far everyone is going on filtering BGP sessions when
> peering with other content providers and carriers over an internet
> exchange.
>
> What are you doing.
>
> 1.  Just filtering out IPv4 Reserved Space, RFC 1918, and Default
> Routes.
>
>
> 2.  AS Path Filtering. Only filtering by the AS's that are present in
> the IRR Record.
>
>
>
> 3.  Filtering by IP Prefix based on the IRR Record for the Peer. (Yes
> some Prefix Filter list can be a couple thousand lines)
>
>
>
> 4.  Doing both #3 and 4 listed above.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Besides Peering DB is there any software to help keep track of IX and
> Peering info. So far I have only found IXP-MANGER
>
> 
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IX Peering - BGP Session Filtering Best Practice

[Erik Sundberg]

Just wondering how far everyone is going on filtering BGP sessions when peering 
with other content providers and carriers over an internet exchange.

What are you doing.

1.  Just filtering out IPv4 Reserved Space, RFC 1918, and Default Routes.


2.  AS Path Filtering. Only filtering by the AS's that are present in the 
IRR Record.



3.  Filtering by IP Prefix based on the IRR Record for the Peer. (Yes some 
Prefix Filter list can be a couple thousand lines)



4.  Doing both #3 and 4 listed above.






Besides Peering DB is there any software to help keep track of IX and Peering 
info. So far I have only found IXP-MANGER



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Network Weathermap

[James Bensley]

Hi All,

Those of you that have a network weathermap similar to [1], what
software are you using to edit the maps, the built in editor or
something custom, 3rd party/external editor? Paid or free editor?

I'm look for a better editing tool I can preferably use with that
plugin (we are feeding it from Cacti). I'm open to both open source
editors and paid commercial ones.

Maybe you use a different weathermap tool, again I'd be interested to
hear about that too. Doesn't have to be fed from Cacti/RRDs.

Maybe I'm just pants at being visual [2] but I'm finding that making
large maps isn't that well supported (the 'move' option on nodes and
using the 'via' option on links becomes less accurate) and it's
difficult to keep "busy" images clean (no grid, or snap-to-grid,
scaling for higher res maps for larger networks etc). The main problem
is keeping everything neat though.

An example would be that we acquire a network, want to extend an
existing map to incorporate the new network, I can’t select a bunch of
objects and move them along all together I have to painstakingly move
each node by hand, align each link and node by hand etc.


Cheers,
James.

[1] http://network-weathermap.com/manual/0.97b/
[2] That is most likely the main problem here

Re: Skype off line ??

[Gavin Henry]

>> The same from Spain

Desktop client on Linux in UK too.


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Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

[Ian Clark]

Thanks for this.  I've had physical diversity on my mind lately so this was
helpful.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Rod Beck 
wrote:

>
> This might of interest to network engineers seeking to ensure their
> upstreams are physical diverse.
>
> http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~pb/tubes_final.pdf

Re: Skype off line ??

[Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)]

Hello,

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:21:40 +0200
Marco Paesani  wrote:

> No solution 
> http://heartbeat.skype.com/2015/09/skype_presence_issues.html

Back for me (France): presence updated. Using Skype on Linux

Paul


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Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

[Rod Beck]

Academics face a severe challenge in gaining access to fiber maps since the 
industry classifies virtually everything as proprietary. If you know a better 
paper, please post it.

Roderick Beck
Sales - Europe and the Americas
Hibernia Networks
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ICANN Public Comment period related to DNS Root Zone KSK closes October 5, 2015

[Edward Lewis]

(Apologies for duplicates of this)

ICANN has an open Public Comment period on work relating to changing the
Root Zone's DNSSEC Public KSK.  The formal Public Comment process closes
October 5, 2015.  For further details, consult this URL:

https://www.icann.org/public-comments/root-ksk-2015-08-06-en

The title of the Public Comment period is:

Design Team Review of Plan for DNS Root Zone KSK Change

URLs of note, all of these are found from the URL above.

The draft report in English:

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/root-zone-ksk-rollover-plan-dra
ft-04aug15-en.pdf

There are also versions of the report in 6 other languages.

And the comments forum:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-root-ksk-06aug15/



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Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

[Christopher Morrow]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Ian Clark  wrote:
> Thanks for this.  I've had physical diversity on my mind lately so this was
> helpful.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Rod Beck 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> This might of interest to network engineers seeking to ensure their
>> upstreams are physical diverse.
>>
>> http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~pb/tubes_final.pdf

 paper from sales person of longhaul meets expectations
(mostly joking... but still)

Re: Skype off line ??

[Joly MacFie]

I like http://zoom.us



On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Alistair Mackenzie 
wrote:

> Seems fine on mobile in the UK for me too.
> On 21 Sep 2015 18:36, "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)"  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:21:40 +0200
> > Marco Paesani  wrote:
> >
> > > No solution 
> > > http://heartbeat.skype.com/2015/09/skype_presence_issues.html
> >
> > Back for me (France): presence updated. Using Skype on Linux
> >
> > Paul
> >
>



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Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

[Rod Beck]

Undersea is a lot easier since cables pose safety threats. Any fishing 
organization will have maps of where the undersea cables are located.

http://www.kis-orca.eu/map#.VgBHpJdS3IU

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Re: Skype off line ??

[Christopher Morrow]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Gavin Henry  wrote:
>>> The same from Spain
>
> Desktop client on Linux in UK too.

sometimes it takes longer than expected to install all the necessary
software and hardware taps by the nsa folks.

Re: Skype off line ??

[Alistair Mackenzie]

Seems fine on mobile in the UK for me too.
On 21 Sep 2015 18:36, "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)"  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:21:40 +0200
> Marco Paesani  wrote:
>
> > No solution 
> > http://heartbeat.skype.com/2015/09/skype_presence_issues.html
>
> Back for me (France): presence updated. Using Skype on Linux
>
> Paul
>

RE: Skype off line ??

[Dan Gamble]

http://heartbeat.skype.com says they've been intermittent since approx. 
10:00UTC.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Marco Paesani
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:33 AM
To: nanog
Subject: Skype off line ??

Hi,
do you have sone news about it ?
Best regards,

-- 

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MPAE Srl

Skype: mpaesani
Mobile: +39 348 6019349
Success depends on the right choice !
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Re: Skype off line ??

[Gavin Henry]

>> The same from Spain

Desktop client on Linux in UK too.

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Re: Skype off line ??

[Marco Paesani]

No solution 
http://heartbeat.skype.com/2015/09/skype_presence_issues.html



2015-09-21 13:42 GMT+02:00 Karl Auer :

> On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 10:32 +0200, Marco Paesani wrote:
> > do you have some news about it ?
>
> There's a service status article on www.skype.com:
>
> Regards, K.
>
> Issues with Skype status and calling
> By My status Leonas Sendrauskas on September 21, 2015.
> Updated 11:00 UTC
>
> We have detected an issue that is affecting Skype in a number of ways.
>
> If you're signed in to Skype, you will not be able to change your status
> and your contacts will all show as offline even if they are online. As a
> result, you won’t be able to start Skype calls to them..
>
> A small number of messages to group chats are not being delivered, but
> in most cases you can still instant message your contacts..
>
> If you aren’t signed in to Skype, you may be experiencing difficulty
> when attempting to sign in. Any changes to your Skype account such as
> your Credit balance or your profile details might take a little while to
> be displayed..
>
> You may also have difficulty loading web pages on the Skype Community.
> For that reason, please check back here for future updates..
>
> We're doing everything we can to fix this issue and hope to have another
> update for you soon. Thank you for your patience as we work to get this
> incident resolved.
>
>
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>
>


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Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

[Rod Beck]

This might of interest to network engineers seeking to ensure their upstreams 
are physical diverse.

http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~pb/tubes_final.pdf


Roderick Beck
Sales - Europe and the Americas
Hibernia Networks
http://www.hibernianetworks.com
Budapest and New York

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Re: Skype off line ??

[Larry Sheldon]

On 9/21/2015 03:37, Larry Sheldon wrote:

On 9/21/2015 03:32, Marco Paesani wrote:

Hi,
do you have some news about it ?
Best regards,


I get a log-in screen.

Do you have a fact to go with your question?


Turns out the log-in screen is the last last sign or life--submitting 
username and password gets you a never-ending throbber.


How weird.


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RE: high latency on West Coast?

[John van Oppen]

Not that we could tell, it was a really annoying location to fix and we saw 
lots of traffic show up from customers that were multi-homed between us and the 
affected carriers (L3 and integra), likely amazon saw the same issues we did.  
RFO I heard was fiber cut on an island in the Columbia river.

John 

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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Florin Andrei
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 8:59 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: high latency on West Coast?

On 2015-09-18 14:57, andrew wrote:
> L3 fiber cut .

Is this related to the wave of deliberate fiber cuts on the West Coast this 
year?

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Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Rod Beck]

Available in Hungary.

Roderick Beck
Sales - Europe and the Americas
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Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Sander Steffann]

> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for 
> Rostelecom?

Works fine here in The Netherlands (ISP: Solcon).

Cheers,
Sander

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Sam Oduor]

All set for me; East Africa, Kenya, Nairobi .. I can also see some serious
dude fixing a bike  on the site.

Tracing route to cisco.com [72.163.4.161]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms  192.168.0.1
  211 ms   224 ms13 ms  10.34.0.1
  3 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms  196.207.31.181.accesskenya.com
[196.207.31.181]

  410 ms10 ms17 ms  te2-1.er1.bp.nbo.accesskenya.net
[196.207.31.145
]
  5   652 ms   161 ms   515 ms  if-6-0-2.core4.LDN-London.as6453.net
[80.231.76.
101]
  6   395 ms  1139 ms   148 ms  if-1-3-1-0.tcore1.LDN-London.as6453.net
[80.231.
76.86]
  7   197 ms   147 ms   188 ms  195.219.83.102
  8 *** Request timed out.
  9 *** Request timed out.
 10   313 ms *  283 ms  CISCO-SYSTE.ear1.Dallas1.Level3.net
[4.30.74.46]

 11   270 ms   264 ms   329 ms  rcdn9-cd2-dmzbb-gw2-ten1-1.cisco.com
[72.163.0.2
1]
 12   299 ms   326 ms   323 ms  rcdn9-cd2-dmzdcc-gw2-por2.cisco.com
[72.163.0.19
0]
 13   291 ms   534 ms   256 ms  rcdn9-16b-dcz05n-gw2-por2.cisco.com
[72.163.2.11
0]
 14   275 ms   598 ms   270 ms  www1.cisco.com [72.163.4.161]

Trace complete.




On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Robert Glover  wrote:

> On 9/21/2015 11:51 AM, Murat Kaipov wrote:
>
>> Hi folks!
>> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for
>> Rostelecom?
>>
>
> All is well from Cogent, Charter, and Verizon Wireless
>
>


-- 
Samson Oduor

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Murat Kaipov]

Now all works fine.
mkaipov$ traceroute www.cisco.com
traceroute to e144.dscb.akamaiedge.net (23.78.32.170), 64 hops max, 52 byte 
packets
 1  router.asus.com (10.10.0.1)  1.598 ms  1.287 ms  1.126 ms
 2  62.182.11.92 (62.182.11.92)  1.878 ms  1.789 ms  1.863 ms
 3  91.221.157.1 (91.221.157.1)  3.145 ms  3.361 ms  3.081 ms
 4  rdn06.transtelecom.net (217.150.56.234)  10.898 ms  10.362 ms  10.067 ms
 5  10.78.146.2 (10.78.146.2)  47.051 ms  47.222 ms  46.991 ms
 6  * * *
 7  eth2-4.r1.sto2.se.as5580.net (78.152.34.215)  76.838 ms  73.685 ms  73.822 
ms
 8  eth3-1.r1.cph1.dk.as5580.net (78.152.34.158)  82.728 ms  93.950 ms  82.614 
ms
 9  akamai-20940-gw.cph01-1.dk.as5580.net (78.152.57.10)  86.037 ms  85.568 ms  
85.522 ms
10  a23-78-32-170.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com (23.78.32.170)  81.347 
ms  86.100 ms  81.352 ms
MBP-Murat:~ mkaipov$ 
> 21 сент. 2015 г., в 22:33, Justin Wilson - MTIN  написал(а):
> 
> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
> 
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
> 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Hugo Slabbert  wrote:
>> 
 Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for
 Rostelecom?
>> 
>> No problems here from either v4 or v6.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Hugo
> 

Re: Skype off line ??

[Karl Auer]

On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 10:32 +0200, Marco Paesani wrote:
> do you have some news about it ?

There's a service status article on www.skype.com:

Regards, K.

Issues with Skype status and calling
By My status Leonas Sendrauskas on September 21, 2015.
Updated 11:00 UTC 

We have detected an issue that is affecting Skype in a number of ways. 

If you're signed in to Skype, you will not be able to change your status
and your contacts will all show as offline even if they are online. As a
result, you won’t be able to start Skype calls to them.. 

A small number of messages to group chats are not being delivered, but
in most cases you can still instant message your contacts.. 

If you aren’t signed in to Skype, you may be experiencing difficulty
when attempting to sign in. Any changes to your Skype account such as
your Credit balance or your profile details might take a little while to
be displayed.. 

You may also have difficulty loading web pages on the Skype Community.
For that reason, please check back here for future updates.. 

We're doing everything we can to fix this issue and hope to have another
update for you soon. Thank you for your patience as we work to get this
incident resolved. 


-- 
~~~
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http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer
http://twitter.com/kauer389

GPG fingerprint: 3C41 82BE A9E7 99A1 B931 5AE7 7638 0147 2C3C 2AC4
Old fingerprint: EC67 61E2 C2F6 EB55 884B E129 072B 0AF0 72AA 9882

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Hugo Slabbert]

Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for
Rostelecom?


No problems here from either v4 or v6.

--
Hugo


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Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Marcin Cieslak]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015, Murat Kaipov wrote:

> Hi folks!
> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for 
> Rostelecom?

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/cisco.com

> It's just you. http://cisco.com is up.

~Marcin

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Hal Ponton]

Works from the UK from a few ISP's
--
--
Regards,

Hal Ponton
Senior Network Engineer

Buzcom / FibreWiFi





Keith Stokes 
21 September 2015 19:55
It works fine for me from Cox.



---

Keith Stokes


From: NANOG  on behalf of Murat Kaipov 


Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:51 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: cisco.com unavailable

Hi folks!
Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just 
for Rostelecom?

Murat Kaipov 
21 September 2015 19:51
Hi folks!
Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just 
for Rostelecom?

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Robert Glover]

On 9/21/2015 11:51 AM, Murat Kaipov wrote:

Hi folks!
Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for 
Rostelecom?


All is well from Cogent, Charter, and Verizon Wireless

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Murat Kaipov]

2 minutes ago all had worked fine, now I have same trouble.

mkaipov$ traceroute cisco.com
traceroute to cisco.com (72.163.4.161), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  router.asus.com (10.10.0.1)  1.536 ms  1.232 ms  1.176 ms
 2  62.182.11.92 (62.182.11.92)  1.934 ms  2.924 ms  3.251 ms
 3  isp2.aquafon.com (62.182.11.26)  2.140 ms  2.421 ms  2.380 ms
 4  u111asr1002tr2-isp2.aquafon.com (91.221.157.5)  4.767 ms  3.515 ms  3.243 ms
 5  62.183.37.150 (62.183.37.150)  3.585 ms  3.573 ms  3.465 ms
 6  230.100.sochicom.biz (85.174.230.100)  3.898 ms  5.611 ms  3.671 ms
 7  85.174.230.225 (85.174.230.225)  16.177 ms  17.043 ms  15.573 ms
 8  85.175.2.69 (85.175.2.69)  13.401 ms  20.689 ms  13.170 ms
 9  188.254.36.249 (188.254.36.249)  28.386 ms
188.254.36.253 (188.254.36.253)  14.295 ms  27.329 ms
10  87.226.133.103 (87.226.133.103)  72.963 ms *  69.451 ms
11  s-b3-link.telia.net (213.248.95.105)  49.969 ms  50.155 ms
s-b3-link.telia.net (62.115.11.57)  66.943 ms
12  s-bb3-link.telia.net (213.155.133.16)  75.242 ms
s-bb3-link.telia.net (62.115.137.158)  71.001 ms  70.112 ms
13  s-b6-link.telia.net (62.115.141.201)  71.606 ms
s-b6-link.telia.net (62.115.136.23)  47.700 ms
s-b6-link.telia.net (62.115.136.21)  48.270 ms
14  level3-ic-155475-s-b2.c.telia.net (213.248.99.134)  48.129 ms  49.995 ms  
66.182 ms
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  cisco-syste.ear1.dallas1.level3.net (4.30.74.46)  195.112 ms  308.241 ms  
193.757 ms
18  rcdn9-cd1-dmzbb-gw1-ten1-1.cisco.com (72.163.0.5)  197.443 ms  193.921 ms  
420.050 ms
19  rcdn9-cd1-dmzdcc-gw1-por1.cisco.com (72.163.0.178)  307.371 ms  307.396 ms  
306.593 ms
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * *

> 21 сент. 2015 г., в 22:05, Sander Steffann  написал(а):
> 
> 
>> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for 
>> Rostelecom?
> 
> Works fine here in The Netherlands (ISP: Solcon).
> 
> Cheers,
> Sander
> 

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Justin Wilson - MTIN]

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/




Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Hugo Slabbert  wrote:
> 
>>> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for
>>> Rostelecom?
> 
> No problems here from either v4 or v6.
> 
> -- 
> Hugo

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Valdis . Kletnieks]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 14:58:39 -0400, Dovid Bender said:
> Working from Verizon FiOS
>
> [root@yosefh-OptiPlex-3020 ~]# wget cisco.com

Somebody's a trusting soul :)


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Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

[Christopher Morrow]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Rod Beck  wrote:
> Academics face a severe challenge in gaining access to fiber maps since the 
> industry classifies virtually everything as proprietary. If you know a better 
> paper, please post it.
>

I don't, which was part of why I was joking.

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> Sales - Europe and the Americas
> Hibernia Networks
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Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Scott Helms]

I get there with no problem.


Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000

http://twitter.com/kscotthelms


On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Murat Kaipov  wrote:

> Hi folks!
> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for
> Rostelecom?

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

[Sean Donelan]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015, Christopher Morrow wrote:

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Rod Beck  wrote:

Academics face a severe challenge in gaining access to fiber maps since the 
industry classifies virtually everything as proprietary. If you know a better 
paper, please post it.


I don't, which was part of why I was joking.


The ATIS final report on the National Diversity Assurance Iniative is 
decent.  ATIS had access to proprietary carrier maps and personnel to
check things on the ground. Unfortunately, the NDAI report seems to have 
disappeared down the Internet memory hole of dead links.


http://www.atis.org/ndai

It could be summarized as "Circuit route diversity sucks."  The only thing 
worse than circuit route diversity were the processes to assure diverse 
circuit orders stayed diverse.

Re: Segment Routing for L2VPN?

[Jeff Tantsura]

Hi,

In most well designed IP routing stacks the way to get to a labeled
(tunneled) next hop is decoupled from a service, so if a service requires
such next hop it is upto (usually RIB) to return one (best, multiple might
exist) which would be used for forwarding. If it is a Segment Routed one
so it will then be used.

Cheers,
Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Mohan Nanduri 
Date: Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 12:59 PM
To: Jason Lixfeld 
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" 
Subject: Re: Segment Routing for L2VPN?

>No, it works with L2VPNs also. Outer label is going to be SR label and
>inner label is your L2VPN label.
>
>Cheers,
>-Mohan
>
>
>On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Jason Lixfeld  wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> I've been doing some reading recently on Segment Routing.  By all
>>accounts, it seems that the (only?) implementation for SR supports
>>L3VPN.  Am I dumb and just missing the L2VPN bits, or is L3VPN simply
>>the extent of the first generation?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

[Robert Mathews (OSIA)]

On 9/21/2015 2:31 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
> The ATIS final report on the National Diversity Assurance Iniative is
> decent.  ATIS had access to proprietary carrier maps and personnel to
> check things on the ground. Unfortunately, the NDAI report seems to
> have disappeared down the Internet memory hole of dead links.
>
> http://www.atis.org/ndai
>
> It could be summarized as "Circuit route diversity sucks."  The only
> thing worse than circuit route diversity were the processes to assure
> diverse circuit orders stayed diverse.

Sean:

FCC' Clearinghouse has a copy (2006) ...  here:
https://transition.fcc.gov/bureaus/pshs/docs/clearinghouse/ATIS_NDAI_Final_Report_2006.pdf

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Murat Kaipov]

Thanks to all of you. I think there issue with ISP’s connectivity in Russia.

> 21 сент. 2015 г., в 21:55, Keith Stokes  написал(а):
> 
> It works fine for me from Cox.
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> Keith Stokes
> 
> 
> From: NANOG  on behalf of Murat Kaipov 
> 
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:51 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: cisco.com unavailable
> 
> Hi folks!
> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for 
> Rostelecom?

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Josh Luthman]

Works for me via Frontier, south west Ohio.

  1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms  10.10.10.1
  2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms  192.149.254.1
  3 7 ms 5 ms 6 ms  45.52.8.205
  421 ms20 ms21 ms  74.40.5.58
  519 ms20 ms20 ms  74.42.149.189
  622 ms20 ms21 ms  74.40.4.138
  720 ms20 ms21 ms  4.53.98.17
  8 *** Request timed out.
  9 *** Request timed out.
 1049 ms49 ms49 ms  4.30.74.46
 11   145 ms48 ms50 ms  72.163.0.5
 1248 ms47 ms47 ms  72.163.0.178
 1348 ms47 ms48 ms  72.163.2.98
 1448 ms48 ms48 ms  72.163.4.161

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Murat Kaipov  wrote:

> Hi folks!
> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for
> Rostelecom?

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Jeff Shultz]

I had no difficulty getting to it,  but it appears that I probably got
to an Akamai box:

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:e144.dscb.akamaiedge.net
Addresses:  2600:1409:a:185::90
  2600:1409:a:18b::90
  23.200.208.170
Aliases:  www.cisco.com
  www.cisco.com.akadns.net
  wwwds.cisco.com.edgekey.net
  wwwds.cisco.com.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:cisco.com
Addresses:  2001:420:1101:1::a
  72.163.4.161

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Murat Kaipov  wrote:
> Hi folks!
> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for 
> Rostelecom?

cisco.com unavailable

[Murat Kaipov]

Hi folks!
Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for 
Rostelecom?

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Keith Stokes]

It works fine for me from Cox.



---

Keith Stokes


From: NANOG  on behalf of Murat Kaipov 

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:51 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: cisco.com unavailable

Hi folks!
Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for 
Rostelecom?

Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Dovid Bender]

Working from Verizon FiOS

[root@yosefh-OptiPlex-3020 ~]# wget cisco.com
--2015-09-21 14:57:58--  http://cisco.com/
Resolving cisco.com (cisco.com)... 72.163.4.161, 2001:420:1101:1::a
Connecting to cisco.com (cisco.com)|72.163.4.161|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://www.cisco.com/ [following]
--2015-09-21 14:57:58--  http://www.cisco.com/
Resolving www.cisco.com (www.cisco.com)... 23.76.208.170,
2600:141b:4:288::90, 2600:141b:4:29b::90
Connecting to www.cisco.com (www.cisco.com)|23.76.208.170|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: ‘index.html’

[
<=>
] 52,865  --.-K/s   in 0.01s

2015-09-21 14:57:58 (5.09 MB/s) - ‘index.html’ saved [52865]

[root@yosefh-OptiPlex-3020 ~]#









On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Murat Kaipov  wrote:

> Hi folks!
> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for
> Rostelecom?

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

[Justin M. Streiner]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015, Sean Donelan wrote:

It could be summarized as "Circuit route diversity sucks."  The only thing 
worse than circuit route diversity were the processes to assure diverse 
circuit orders stayed diverse.


No small feat when carriers re-groom circuits and don't bother to tell 
anyone, beyond *maybe* a cryptic notification regarding "maintenance on 
your service".


jms

Re: Skype off line ??

[Larry Sheldon]

On 9/21/2015 03:32, Marco Paesani wrote:

Hi,
do you have some news about it ?
Best regards,


I get a log-in screen.

Do you ha a fact to go with your question?


--
sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Skype off line ??

[Aftab Siddiqui]

Yes, its offline.

http://heartbeat.skype.com/

Skype presence issues


By Leonas Sendrauskas on September 21, 2015.
Some of you may experience problems with Skype presence and may not see
online status. We apologize for the inconvenience and will post an update
here, when the gets resolved!


On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 at 18:35 Marco Paesani  wrote:

> Hi,
> do you have sone news about it ?
> Best regards,
>
> --
>
> Marco Paesani
> MPAE Srl
>
> Skype: mpaesani
> Mobile: +39 348 6019349
> Success depends on the right choice !
> Email: ma...@paesani.it
>
-- 
Best Wishes,

Aftab A. Siddiqui

Skype off line ??

[Marco Paesani]

Hi,
do you have sone news about it ?
Best regards,

-- 

Marco Paesani
MPAE Srl

Skype: mpaesani
Mobile: +39 348 6019349
Success depends on the right choice !
Email: ma...@paesani.it