Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

[Rich Brown]

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:00 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
> 
> The value of Ookla dropped significantly so we just let our license lapse 
> and did what everyone else was doing and pointed our speedtest to:
> http://uk2.testmy.net/SmarTest/combinedAuto
> and manage with this free service just fine.

You might consider pointing people to the DSLReports Speed Test 
(www.dslreports.com/speedtest)

- It is also free (no cost), and HTML-based.

- It's graphically far more attractive than testmy.net

- It's easier for people to use. Click one button: it automatically selects the 
nearest test server and runs all the tests.

- It retains test history, so your customers can compare today's tests with 
earlier runs.

- It measures latency *under load*, which really affects a lot of people's 
perception of "network speed".

- I find DSLReports to be more accurate than testmy.net. In several runs today, 
testmy.net results average 90% of the up/download speeds seen by DSLReports, 
Ookla, and netperf measurements on my 7mbps/768kbps DSL connection.

-Rich

Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

[Christopher Morrow]

it sounds like horizontal scaling with redundancy and potentially
geographic distriubution on your network would be your big friend
here.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Lorell Hathcock  wrote:
> Good point.  There will be no one customer that can get a 10G speedtest from
> us.  But there will be hundreds that should be able to get a 1G test.
> Should any of them try simultaneously, I want to be ready.  Plus I don't
> know what miscellaneous speedtests from the net to expect, so I want to
> affordably overbuild.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu]
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 11:00 PM
> To: Lorell Hathcock 
> Cc: 'NANOG list' 
> Subject: Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements
>
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:27:20 -0600, "Lorell Hathcock" said:
>
>> I want a server that is capable of handlilng a speedtest up to 10Gbps.
>
> Do you have (or are planning to have) a clear 10G path to enough systems
> that want to use speedtest specifically to make it worthwhile?  We have a
> lot of gear reachable at high speeds, but the admins of those servers
> usually care more about iperf and similar than speedtest.
>
>

Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

[Baldur Norddahl]

On 10 November 2015 at 14:34, Lorell Hathcock  wrote:

> Good point.  There will be no one customer that can get a 10G speedtest
> from
> us.  But there will be hundreds that should be able to get a 1G test.
> Should any of them try simultaneously, I want to be ready.  Plus I don't
> know what miscellaneous speedtests from the net to expect, so I want to
> affordably overbuild.
>

Here is a MRTG from the server that serves gigabit.speedtest.net:

http://ballerup1.gigabit.dk/ballerup-core1-xgei3.png

This is a 10G interface. The server is used by our users that include many
1G users. You are unable to see that because the speed test is much less
than 1 minute in duration (1 minute is the sampling period for the graph) .
Also you see the speed tests done by everyone else that uses our server.

As you can see you do not need to worry too much about the traffic levels.
You would be very unlucky to have two 1G users doing a test at exact the
same time. It would be extremely unlikely that you have MORE than two 1G
users doing a test in parallel. The tests are simply not that long and
people do not run test all day long. They try it a few times, and then
again a few times to show off for their friends or during troubleshooting.

Based on this experience I will say that you do need a server with 10G
interface (like ours) but you would not need to worry much about the
performance of that server. Just about any server with a PCIe interface
will be able to serve static files with the required speed on a 10G
interface. Use something modern like nginx and you are set.

The required performance is 1G for one of your own 1G users doing a test
plus the background noise from the external tests, which means that you
would get a good test with just 1.1G of performance :-).

Regards,

Baldur

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

[Josh Luthman]

It's done per /32 I believe.  Do you have a lot of NATed users?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 10, 2015 12:29 PM, "Joseph Jenkins" 
wrote:

> We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning.
> Does anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and
> figure out where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it
> is going to so that I can track down the users?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Jenkins
> 909.636.2097
>
>

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

[Nikolay Shopik]

You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least
this is what I've seen.

On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote:
> We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does 
> anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure out 
> where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it is going to so 
> that I can track down the users?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe Jenkins
> 909.636.2097
> 

Global Crossing / Level 3 Contact

[CWO Network Operations]

Greetings,

Some of my BGP announcements are suppressed at Global Crossing/Level 3.
I have no idea why they would be suppressed, since my announcements (routes) 
are fine everywhere else and I’m not aware of any issues.
Since I’m not peering with Level 3, it’s hard to get to anyone useful at Level 
3.

Feel free to contact me off list

Thanks
JB

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

[Hugo Slabbert]

On Tue 2015-Nov-10 09:28:09 -0800, Joseph Jenkins  
wrote:


We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does 
anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure out 
where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it is going to so 
that I can track down the users?


Out of curiosity: Is this happening with IPv6-capable hosts?  We've had 
instances where Google flags our dual stack hosts and pops up Captcha's 
like you're reporting when connecting via v6, but where we've never had 
problems accessing their services from the same host(s) over v4.  Flipping 
the affected host's browser over to using v4 using a browser extension 
let's them access Google services again.


https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/86640?hl=en is too 
generic/vague to give any specifics of why Google decided the user's v6 IP 
is put on the nasty list (or even whether it's their IP specifically or 
something larger like a /64).




Thanks,

Joe Jenkins
909.636.2097



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Re: Google Captcha on web searches

[Joseph Jenkins]

I have about a 600 users. We aren’t dual stick only ipv4 at this point. Someone 
contacted me off list and gave me some insight as to what to key on.


Joe 

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> It's done per /32 I believe.  Do you have a lot of NATed users?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Nov 10, 2015 12:29 PM, "Joseph Jenkins"  > wrote:
> We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does 
> anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure out 
> where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it is going to so 
> that I can track down the users?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe

Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

[Roy]

On 11/10/2015 8:54 AM, Rich Brown wrote:

On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:00 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote:

The value of Ookla dropped significantly so we just let our license lapse
and did what everyone else was doing and pointed our speedtest to:
http://uk2.testmy.net/SmarTest/combinedAuto
and manage with this free service just fine.

You might consider pointing people to the DSLReports Speed Test 
(www.dslreports.com/speedtest)

...


My home cable connection

testmynet  12/2.4
speedtest.net  94/3.3
dslreports 94/3.4


testmynet is not very accurate

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Brian R]

Art,

I can't say we have a lot of experience with the Adtran GPON units.  On the 
Active Ethernet side if we assign an IP to the ONT we can view all the stats 
going back to the TA5K.  From the TA5K we can also view the individual Ethernet 
ports.  I will send you directly some examples.  I don't think NANOG wants to 
see a bunch of Adtran "show ..." commands  : ]

As far as Shawns Calix experiences the last time we tried Calix GPON was 5-6 
years ago.  The CPE seemed solid but the POP side was in constant need of 
rebooting and we gave it up after about 8-12 months of customer frustrations.  
At that time we did not get much help on the problems.

Brian


From: NANOG  on behalf of Art Plato 

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:32 AM
To: Shawn L
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback Brian. Price is important, but not the be all 
of the consideration process. Troubleshooting ease matters just as much.

- Original Message -
From: "Shawn L" 
To: "nanog" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:27:46 AM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?


We like Calix's gpon gear, especially the E7 series.  Though it's on the higher 
side price-wise than others.  Manageable through their CMS software, the web, 
or command line.  We tend to use their CMS software for most things, but the 
CLI is decent, and gives you access to anything you'd want.


-Original Message-
From: "Art Plato" 
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:38pm
To:
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?



Brian,
How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the Enablence 
Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI is like 
pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual throughput on 
the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light levels at the CPE 
fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a truck roll to get light 
levels at the CPE.

Art.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian R" 
To: "Eric Rogers" , "Jay Patel" 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We use the Adtran ONT solutions. We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON but 
the solutions are similar for Adtran. We are providing IP and Analog this way. 
If used in the specified scope only there have been very little problems. 
Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positive and 
negative at times. LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module 
(1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE 
(1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we are 
sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)


From: NANOG  on behalf of Eric Rogers 

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well. We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON OLT/ONU Vendor? Why? I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this 
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.

Google Captcha on web searches

[Joseph Jenkins]

We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does 
anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure out 
where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it is going to so 
that I can track down the users?

Thanks,

Joe Jenkins
909.636.2097

RE: Google Captcha on web searches

[Nicholas Warren]

We had that problem too, it was only happening to computers with a NATed v4
address. Connecting to Google over IPv6 made the problems go away.

Thank you,
- Nich


> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Jenkins
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:28 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Google Captcha on web searches
> 
> We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning.
> Does anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and
> figure out where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it
> is going to so that I can track down the users?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe Jenkins
> 909.636.2097



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Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Jérôme Nicolle]

Hello Jay,

Le 09/11/2015 15:49, Jay Patel a écrit :
> Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
> recommendations

I've had great operationnal feedback with Alcatel's gear. Not the old
7302 series, rather the 7360s which support up to 16 ports/slot.

The best part is their provisionning system, because it's a "service
template" driven logic. It scales well, as long as you don't try to
produce L3 services right on the OLT chassis (better trunk to a 7750 SR
or any other L3 router).

The 7360FX line also has a P2P linecard, which is usefull when you want
to serve both residential and business accesses from the same device.

Higlights :
- Up to 32k GPON subscribers per chassis
- Up to 1152 gigabit ports per chassis in PtP setup (ideal for B2B)
- Unlimited customers from the same mamangement server (5620SAM,
optionnal but worth it past 5+ chassis)

On the financial aspects, well, it's surprisingly cheap as soon as you
have to scale past the chinese pizabox OLTs. Over 9 trees out of a
single PoP, you're definitely more effective with such devices.

Best regards,

-- 
Jérôme Nicolle
+33 6 19 31 27 14

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

[Christopher Morrow]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Nikolay Shopik  wrote:
> You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least
> this is what I've seen.
>

pardon, what?

> On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote:
>> We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does 
>> anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure 
>> out where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it is going 
>> to so that I can track down the users?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe Jenkins
>> 909.636.2097
>>

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

[Nikolay Shopik]

When I've started using DNS from unotelly service, captcha starts
appears from time to time. If I change DNS to something else, catcha
gone immediately.

Its probably related to DNS geo-locating to decide what records serve to
client

On 10/11/2015 23:00, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Nikolay Shopik  wrote:
>> You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least
>> this is what I've seen.
>>
> 
> pardon, what?
> 
>> On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote:
>>> We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does 
>>> anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure 
>>> out where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it is going 
>>> to so that I can track down the users?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe Jenkins
>>> 909.636.2097
>>>

Environmental Graph Interpretation

[Lorell Hathcock]

NANOG:

 

Are there any one the list that would care to take a look at some graphs of
temperature, relative humidity and dew point that I have for two locations.
In one of the two locations, I'm having a problem with the floor getting wet
(condensation?).  At the other everything is just fine.

 

I need to understand what these graphs are telling me about the problem and
if a simple dehumidifier would solve my moisture problem.

 

Any takers?

 

Oh, the environmental monitor I installed in each location is the IT
Watchdog from Geist Global.  I bought the POE version.  Installed like a
charm and was $229 plus shipping.

 

I do wonder if this question is off topic, but then I can hear myself saying
"Hey, I'm Operating a Network, here!  In North America!"  And then I think,
"Yep, on topic!"

 

Thanks,

 

Sincerely,

 

Lorell Hathcock

 




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Re: Environmental Graph Interpretation

[Valdis . Kletnieks]

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:48:04 -0600, "Lorell Hathcock" said:
> Are there any one the list that would care to take a look at some graphs of
> temperature, relative humidity and dew point that I have for two locations.
> In one of the two locations, I'm having a problem with the floor getting wet
> (condensation?).  At the other everything is just fine.

Is your moisture problem on a ground floor?  Note that even well-cured concrete
is like 30% water, and can allow moisture to slowly migrate through and
weep.  Usual cure is application of a proper sealant over the concrete.


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Re: Google Captcha on web searches

[Chris Murray]

Hi Nikolay,

The "popular open dns services" you refer to appear to be Proxy/VPN
services that also provide DNS to get around region blocking. These
services proxy and/or NAT users behind a single IP address to make it
look like you are coming from a different country.

I may be biased, but when I think of popular open DNS services I think
of OpenDNS or Google DNS, and you should *never* see a captcha as a
result of using OpenDNS. Disclaimer: I work for OpenDNS, and while I
can't speak to Google DNS, I have never heard of this behaviour with
their service either.

Just wanted to clarify.
- Chris

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Nikolay Shopik  wrote:
> When I've started using DNS from unotelly service, captcha starts
> appears from time to time. If I change DNS to something else, catcha
> gone immediately.
>
> Its probably related to DNS geo-locating to decide what records serve to
> client
>
> On 10/11/2015 23:00, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Nikolay Shopik  wrote:
>>> You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least
>>> this is what I've seen.
>>>
>>
>> pardon, what?
>>
>>> On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote:
 We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. 
 Does anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and 
 figure out where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it 
 is going to so that I can track down the users?

 Thanks,

 Joe Jenkins
 909.636.2097

Re: RDAP adoption?

[John Levine]

>How much deployment of servers supporting it is there, but also how much
>querying from clients is happening?  Any sense of the adoption/use trends?

All of the RIRs have RDAP servers, all nominally for testing but in
fact working pretty well give or take nits.

In Yokahama we went through a list of comments on ICANN's rules for
RDAP servers so I expect we'll be seeing gTLD servers pretty soon.

R's,
John

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

[Mark Tinka]

On 11/Nov/15 01:09, Nikolay Shopik wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> Yeah I probably should worded that differently not 'open dns services',
> sorry about that.

I think those types of DNS services are so-called "Smart DNS".

Mark.

RE: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

[frnkblk]

Note that Ookla's speedtest server runs fine over IPv6 -- we have ours
dual-stacked and also with a specific FQDN.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Pete Mundy
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:27 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements


Sorry list, I just realised I didn't quote the prior message I was referring
to! Thanks Matt for the off-list reply that made me realise.

To be clear for others, it was dslreports that I noticed has IPv6 support
and them who I was pointing the kudos towards, not the other speedtest
service which was in the subject header.

Apologies for any confusion & full creds to dslreports!

Pete


On 11/11/2015, at 5:19 PM, Pete Mundy  wrote:

> 
> I see they support speed-test via IPv6 testing! Good job & kudos to them!
:)
> 
> I just wish their Australian server was part of the IPv6 selection pool.
> 
> 150+ms to the nearest one from down here.
> 
> Pete 

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

[Nikolay Shopik]

Hi Chris,

Yeah I probably should worded that differently not 'open dns services',
sorry about that. In my case there is no proxy/vpn service (i know they
can do that), just DNS changes. For some reason that cause
false-positive detection in google from time to time.

On 11/11/2015 01:43, Chris Murray wrote:
> Hi Nikolay,
> 
> The "popular open dns services" you refer to appear to be Proxy/VPN
> services that also provide DNS to get around region blocking. These
> services proxy and/or NAT users behind a single IP address to make it
> look like you are coming from a different country.
> 
> I may be biased, but when I think of popular open DNS services I think
> of OpenDNS or Google DNS, and you should *never* see a captcha as a
> result of using OpenDNS. Disclaimer: I work for OpenDNS, and while I
> can't speak to Google DNS, I have never heard of this behaviour with
> their service either.
> 
> Just wanted to clarify.
> - Chris
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Nikolay Shopik  wrote:
>> When I've started using DNS from unotelly service, captcha starts
>> appears from time to time. If I change DNS to something else, catcha
>> gone immediately.
>>
>> Its probably related to DNS geo-locating to decide what records serve to
>> client
>>
>> On 10/11/2015 23:00, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Nikolay Shopik  wrote:
 You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least
 this is what I've seen.

>>>
>>> pardon, what?
>>>
 On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote:
> We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. 
> Does anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and 
> figure out where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it 
> is going to so that I can track down the users?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Jenkins
> 909.636.2097
>

RE: Environmental Graph Interpretation

[Lorell Hathcock]

It is on the ground floor, but it is in a hut that has a wood floor that is
raised off the ground.  There is a gap between the bottom of the floor and
the ground.

-Original Message-
From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:13 PM
To: Lorell Hathcock 
Cc: 'NANOG list' 
Subject: Re: Environmental Graph Interpretation

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:48:04 -0600, "Lorell Hathcock" said:
> Are there any one the list that would care to take a look at some 
> graphs of temperature, relative humidity and dew point that I have for two
locations.
> In one of the two locations, I'm having a problem with the floor 
> getting wet (condensation?).  At the other everything is just fine.

Is your moisture problem on a ground floor?  Note that even well-cured
concrete is like 30% water, and can allow moisture to slowly migrate through
and weep.  Usual cure is application of a proper sealant over the concrete.

Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

[Pete Mundy]

Sorry list, I just realised I didn't quote the prior message I was referring 
to! Thanks Matt for the off-list reply that made me realise.

To be clear for others, it was dslreports that I noticed has IPv6 support and 
them who I was pointing the kudos towards, not the other speedtest service 
which was in the subject header.

Apologies for any confusion & full creds to dslreports!

Pete


On 11/11/2015, at 5:19 PM, Pete Mundy  wrote:

> 
> I see they support speed-test via IPv6 testing! Good job & kudos to them! :)
> 
> I just wish their Australian server was part of the IPv6 selection pool.
> 
> 150+ms to the nearest one from down here.
> 
> Pete 


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Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Art Plato]

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback Brian. Price is important, but not the be all 
of the consideration process. Troubleshooting ease matters just as much.

- Original Message -
From: "Shawn L" 
To: "nanog" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:27:46 AM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?


We like Calix's gpon gear, especially the E7 series.  Though it's on the higher 
side price-wise than others.  Manageable through their CMS software, the web, 
or command line.  We tend to use their CMS software for most things, but the 
CLI is decent, and gives you access to anything you'd want.
 

-Original Message-
From: "Art Plato" 
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:38pm
To: 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?



Brian,
How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the Enablence 
Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI is like 
pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual throughput on 
the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light levels at the CPE 
fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a truck roll to get light 
levels at the CPE.

Art.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian R" 
To: "Eric Rogers" , "Jay Patel" 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We use the Adtran ONT solutions. We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON but 
the solutions are similar for Adtran. We are providing IP and Analog this way. 
If used in the specified scope only there have been very little problems. 
Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positive and 
negative at times. LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module 
(1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE 
(1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we are 
sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)


From: NANOG  on behalf of Eric Rogers 

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well. We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON OLT/ONU Vendor? Why? I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this 
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.

RE: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

[Lorell Hathcock]

Good point.  There will be no one customer that can get a 10G speedtest from
us.  But there will be hundreds that should be able to get a 1G test.
Should any of them try simultaneously, I want to be ready.  Plus I don't
know what miscellaneous speedtests from the net to expect, so I want to
affordably overbuild.

-Original Message-
From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] 
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 11:00 PM
To: Lorell Hathcock 
Cc: 'NANOG list' 
Subject: Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:27:20 -0600, "Lorell Hathcock" said:

> I want a server that is capable of handlilng a speedtest up to 10Gbps.

Do you have (or are planning to have) a clear 10G path to enough systems
that want to use speedtest specifically to make it worthwhile?  We have a
lot of gear reachable at high speeds, but the admins of those servers
usually care more about iperf and similar than speedtest.

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Shawn L]

We like Calix's gpon gear, especially the E7 series.  Though it's on the higher 
side price-wise than others.  Manageable through their CMS software, the web, 
or command line.  We tend to use their CMS software for most things, but the 
CLI is decent, and gives you access to anything you'd want.
 

-Original Message-
From: "Art Plato" 
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:38pm
To: 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?



Brian,
How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the Enablence 
Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI is like 
pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual throughput on 
the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light levels at the CPE 
fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a truck roll to get light 
levels at the CPE.

Art.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian R" 
To: "Eric Rogers" , "Jay Patel" 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We use the Adtran ONT solutions. We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON but 
the solutions are similar for Adtran. We are providing IP and Analog this way. 
If used in the specified scope only there have been very little problems. 
Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positive and 
negative at times. LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module 
(1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE 
(1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we are 
sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)


From: NANOG  on behalf of Eric Rogers 

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well. We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON OLT/ONU Vendor? Why? I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this 
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.

RE: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

[Lorell Hathcock]

Good question.

-Original Message-
From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 11:26 PM
To: Valdis Kletnieks 
Cc: Lorell Hathcock ; NANOG list 
Subject: Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

imagine lorell has a userbase on his ISP service of lots of 100mbps or 1gbps 
customers.
Imagine some percentage of them want to test their network speeds.
Imagine enough of them are trying at peak times that 1gbps to the 'speed test 
server' is not enough bandwidth.

Perhaps he could instead run 10 servers or a 10g loadbalancer and 10 1g boxes 
behind that loadbalancer?

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:00 PM,   wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:27:20 -0600, "Lorell Hathcock" said:
>
>> I want a server that is capable of handlilng a speedtest up to 10Gbps.
>
> Do you have (or are planning to have) a clear 10G path to enough 
> systems that want to use speedtest specifically to make it worthwhile?  
> We have a lot of gear reachable at high speeds, but the admins of 
> those servers usually care more about iperf and similar than speedtest.
>

Re: Updated Ookla Speedtest Server Requirements

[Pete Mundy]

I see they support speed-test via IPv6 testing! Good job & kudos to them! :)

I just wish their Australian server was part of the IPv6 selection pool.

150+ms to the nearest one from down here.

Pete 




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