Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

[Marc Storck]

Yes this one intrigued me as well, especially as one of the suggestions 
provided:

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/review-practices-senders-sln3435.html

Which states:

If your messages are being blocked, look closely at any SMTP error codes our 
mail servers are returning and make sure you're addressing the problem:
[…]
Retry 4xx messages - This is a temporary error. (sic)
[…]

Regards,

Marc

> On 11 Jan 2016, at 21:27, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:25:17 +, Marc Storck said:
>> I'm looking for a Yahoo email administrator who could contact me offlist.
> 
>> Error: "421 4.7.1 [TS03] All messages from x.x.x.x permanently deferred"
> 
> If you find one, tell them to go look up the difference between 4xx and 5xx
> return codes. :)



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Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

[Marc Storck]

Today the situation cleared on it’s own as it appears. (at least I haven’t been 
notified of any human action)

Thanks to all those replying on and off list.

Regards,

Marc

> On 11 Jan 2016, at 13:25, Marc Storck  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’m looking for a Yahoo email administrator who could contact me offlist.
> 
> I have a customer with a clean record that is getting thsi error:
> 
> Error: "421 4.7.1 [TS03] All messages from x.x.x.x permanently deferred" when 
> sending email to Yahoo
> 
> The customer is a local non-profit and sends a very limited amount of emails 
> to members, suppliers and other contacts. Mailing-lists are only used to 
> contact members of the NPO.
> 
> I checked the recommendation listed at
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN3436.html
> 
> and checked his IP address on several “multi-rbl” lookup sites. All looks 
> clean.
> 
> So I need more input to understand what we need to correct.
> 
> Thank you very much in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Marc
> 
> 



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Re: SMS gateways

[Adam Kennedy]

I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a Debian box
and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send SMS from the unit
directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us
about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.


Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer

Broadband Networks

A Watch Communications Company

PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173

Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897

adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com

www.broadbandnetworks.com

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Adam Kennedy 
wrote:

> I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
> Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
> makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a Debian box
> and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send SMS from the unit
> directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us
> about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.
>
>
> Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
>
> Broadband Networks
>
> A Watch Communications Company
>
> PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
>
> Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
>
> adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
>
> www.broadbandnetworks.com
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:38 PM,  wrote:
>
>> I plan to continue living in a rural area with a GSM provider that will
>> support 2G. =)
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:24 PM
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Cc: frnk...@iname.com
>> Subject: Re: SMS gateways
>>
>> In article <006501d14b31$7c478e40$74d6aac0$@iname.com> you write:
>> >Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS:
>> http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms
>> >
>> >Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't stable,
>> needing a reboot every few months,
>> >but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.
>>
>> It looked interesting until I got to the part where it says it uses a
>> 2G GSM modem.  AT has said quite firmly that they will turn off
>> their 2G network in 2017, and press reports say that T-Mobile is
>> already turning off 2G in favor of LTE.
>>
>> What do you plan to do instead next year?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [TECH] PPPoE server on ASR 920

[Mark Tinka]

On 11/Jan/16 12:48, Nicolas Even wrote:

>
> Has anyone have experience with  pppoe server on a ASR920 ?

I can't say for sure, but I'm almost certain you can't configure the
ASR920 as a BRAS.

The ASR920 is a Metro-E platform first and foremost. It is running IOS
XE, so it's possible that some commands exist, but do nothing.

Of course, I could be wrong. Check with your SE.

Mark.

Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

[Owen DeLong]

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 07:08 , Baldur Norddahl  wrote:
> 
> Do you seek information on how to plan subnetting or on more technical
> issues like how to dual stack your network? In the later case, you would
> need to tell more about your network. Eg. if you have a MPLS network (like
> we do) and you have your internet in a L3VPN enabling IPv6 is really easy
> and has almost no impact on the network.
> 
> As an alternative to the plan that Owen describes, I can offer the way we
> did it: Our IPv6 address plan is tied to our IPv4 addressing, such that
> there is a mapping from IPv4 address to IPv6 /48 prefix. That way we do not
> need to allocate IPv6 as such.

How do you expect that to work out when you have customers without IPv4 
addresses
or once you start having to share IPv4 addresses among customers?

> 
> The mapping is a database with IPv4 /24 as key and IPv6 /40 as value.
> Example:
> 
> 85.204.120.0/24 maps to 2a00:7660:500::/40.
> 
> Take the user with the IPv4 address 85.204.120.12. This address maps to
> 2a00:7660:50b::/48. Note that 12 is "0b" in hexadecimal.
> 
> We are an eyeball network where most users have only one single IPv4
> address. We assign the IPv4 addresses statically (never changes). A few
> users bought extra IPv4 address and that creates a hole in our address
> plan, but we do not care. Officially the extra /48 is not assigned to the
> user, because that would be against the rules.
> 
> Our address plan creates a very efficient allocation scheme, that is not
> strictly needed as you have the more loose ARIN rules (we are in RIPE).

Your address plan ties your future to your legacy technology that you should
be looking forward to deprecating and places limitations on your future
addressing that are coupled to the shortcomings of the legacy addressing
capabilities.

I encourage my competitors to attempt this strategy.

Owen

Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

[Owen DeLong]

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 10:44 , Baldur Norddahl  wrote:
> 
> On 12 January 2016 at 19:03, Owen DeLong  wrote:
> 
>>> As an alternative to the plan that Owen describes, I can offer the way we
>>> did it: Our IPv6 address plan is tied to our IPv4 addressing, such that
>>> there is a mapping from IPv4 address to IPv6 /48 prefix. That way we do
>> not
>>> need to allocate IPv6 as such.
>> 
>> How do you expect that to work out when you have customers without IPv4
>> addresses
>> or once you start having to share IPv4 addresses among customers?
>> 
>> 
> I fear I will be retired before the first happens. As to the second, even
> with CGN they will have an internal IPv4 that can be used for the mapping.

Sure, there are ways to work around whatever you need.

> 
> Please also take notice that there is nothing that prevents you from
> reversing the mapping: assign /48 to customers and then calculate the IPv4
> from that. The point here is just that you do not really need to do the
> work twice.

OK… Now you’ve got a customer that has their own internal network serving
a campus with 12 buildings and also they have a WAN connecting 18 remote
sites. All of this is behind NAT with a single IPv4 from you. How do you
give them the 30 /48s that they should be receiving for that network with
your current scheme?

> The limitation of the system is that it requires a dense scheme for
> allocating /48 to customers. Unfortunately that is already a requirement in
> RIPE land, so it does not add something new.

Actuallly, it isn’t.

You can use a sparse allocation scheme in RIPE land, but in all RIRs, the
only limitation is that you don’t get more space until your sparse scheme
gets relatively densely packed. Thats intentional and it’s not a bad thing.

>> Your address plan ties your future to your legacy technology that you
>> should
>> be looking forward to deprecating and places limitations on your future
>> addressing that are coupled to the shortcomings of the legacy addressing
>> capabilities.
>> 
>> 
> I would say it saves you from doing a lot of work. It will be a long time
> before you can skip the IPv4 part entirely and just do IPv6. The exception
> being if you use certain transition technologies that tunnels IPv4 on top
> of an IPv6 only network, in which case I would probably do something
> different (or maybe not). My scheme works for our network, which uses L3VPN
> and MPLS.

I expect it will be about 4 years before we start seeing eyeball networks
discontinuing support for IPv4 or at least charging a premium for it.

There are already a growing number of networks that are, in fact, providing
IPv4 only as a tunnel over IPv6.


> 
> 
>> I encourage my competitors to attempt this strategy.
>> 
> 
> I do not believe we have ever been competitors…

We haven’t. I didn’t say I was encouraging you to attempt this strategy.

I did say that I believe my competitors applying this strategy would work out
in my favor.

Owen

Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

[Baldur Norddahl]

On 12 January 2016 at 19:03, Owen DeLong  wrote:

> > As an alternative to the plan that Owen describes, I can offer the way we
> > did it: Our IPv6 address plan is tied to our IPv4 addressing, such that
> > there is a mapping from IPv4 address to IPv6 /48 prefix. That way we do
> not
> > need to allocate IPv6 as such.
>
> How do you expect that to work out when you have customers without IPv4
> addresses
> or once you start having to share IPv4 addresses among customers?
>
>
I fear I will be retired before the first happens. As to the second, even
with CGN they will have an internal IPv4 that can be used for the mapping.

Please also take notice that there is nothing that prevents you from
reversing the mapping: assign /48 to customers and then calculate the IPv4
from that. The point here is just that you do not really need to do the
work twice.

The limitation of the system is that it requires a dense scheme for
allocating /48 to customers. Unfortunately that is already a requirement in
RIPE land, so it does not add something new.


> Your address plan ties your future to your legacy technology that you
> should
> be looking forward to deprecating and places limitations on your future
> addressing that are coupled to the shortcomings of the legacy addressing
> capabilities.
>
>
I would say it saves you from doing a lot of work. It will be a long time
before you can skip the IPv4 part entirely and just do IPv6. The exception
being if you use certain transition technologies that tunnels IPv4 on top
of an IPv6 only network, in which case I would probably do something
different (or maybe not). My scheme works for our network, which uses L3VPN
and MPLS.


> I encourage my competitors to attempt this strategy.
>

I do not believe we have ever been competitors...

Regards,

Baldur

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

[Owen DeLong]

As an end user, you can get an IPv6 /48 and still qualify for the /24 of 
transitional space as well.

Owen

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 18:35 , Matthew D. Hardeman  wrote:
> 
> I’m aware of the /24 block for facilitation concept, but my client’s use case 
> can qualify as an end-user rather than as an ISP, thus their annual operating 
> cost is smaller than even the X-SMALL ISP category, which they’d land in — if 
> they opted for the smaller /36 initial IPv6 direct allocation, rather than 
> the default /32 direct allocation.
> 
> That seems to balance toward buying an existing /24.
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Rafael Possamai  wrote:
>> 
>> If you apply for an IPv6 block, as an ISP, and you have the intention of 
>> truly utilizing it, then you can apply for a /24 to facilitate that 
>> transition. 
>> 
>> It will cost you about $1500 or so, which is about half of what a /24 is 
>> going for in the transfer market.
>> 
>> Thing is, if you take the IPv6 block just to use the /24 they give you, then 
>> one could argue you are cheating the system.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman > > wrote:
>> I’m looking to buy a /24 of space for a new multi-homed network in the ARIN 
>> region.  Can anyone out there speak to going rates for a /24 and best places 
>> to shop?
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

[Martin Hannigan]

There's an option that I forgot to mention:

You can still use an RIR and get a last /22 in the RIPE region provided you
follow their rules, and no, you do not have to be in Europe.

Read carefully:

 https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2013-03


Best,

-M<


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Rafael Possamai 
wrote:

> Makes sense. In that case, I think only way out is to go through a broker
> to find a suitable party for a transfer. I would read the rules and
> regulations regarding transfer of ARIN blocks, they have some details and
> the process requires some paperwork.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman <
> mharde...@ipifony.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I’m aware of the /24 block for facilitation concept, but my client’s use
> > case can qualify as an end-user rather than as an ISP, thus their annual
> > operating cost is smaller than even the X-SMALL ISP category, which
> they’d
> > land in — if they opted for the smaller /36 initial IPv6 direct
> allocation,
> > rather than the default /32 direct allocation.
> >
> > That seems to balance toward buying an existing /24.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Rafael Possamai 
> > wrote:
> >
> > If you apply for an IPv6 block, as an ISP, and you have the intention of
> > truly utilizing it, then you can apply for a /24 to facilitate that
> > transition.
> >
> > It will cost you about $1500 or so, which is about half of what a /24 is
> > going for in the transfer market.
> >
> > Thing is, if you take the IPv6 block just to use the /24 they give you,
> > then one could argue you are cheating the system.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman <
> > mharde...@ipifony.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I’m looking to buy a /24 of space for a new multi-homed network in the
> >> ARIN region.  Can anyone out there speak to going rates for a /24 and
> best
> >> places to shop?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

[Massimiliano Stucchi]

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Hi,


On 12/01/16 01:43, Hugo Slabbert wrote:
> Apologies; I had looked at some of the NCC's online material and
> got stuck in the "it's all online these days, right?" bubble...

the RIPE NCC does have material that anybody can use, and is available
online.  There are webinars about how to prepare an IPv6 Addressing
Plan
(https://www.ripe.net/support/training/learn-online/webinars/ipv6-addres
sing-plan),
also available as a recording here:

https://www.ripe.net/support/training/learn-online/webinars/webinar-reco
rdings/webinar-ipv6-addressing-plan

More important, there's the RIPE NCC Academy:

https://academy.ripe.net

Which has an IPv6 Training Course, and is available to everyone for free
.

While these resources are not covering everything you need to know in
order to implement IPv6 in an ISP environment, I'm sure they really
help getting you started.

Disclaimer:  I work in the training department at the RIPE NCC (and
yes, it's me in the Addressing Plan webinar video!), but I'm not
representing RIPE NCC here.  If you have any other question on the
material/courses/anything, please feel free to email me.

Ciao!

- -- 

Massimiliano Stucchi
MS16801-RIPE
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RE: SMS gateways

[Ray Orsini]

We use those a lot with mobile hotspots. Where did you find them for $20? We
usually pay about 2x that much for used untis.

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-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:56 AM
To: frnk...@iname.com
Cc: John Levine ; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: SMS gateways

I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that makes
them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a Debian box and
I'm able to use smstools open source software to send SMS from the unit
directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us about
$15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.


Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer

Broadband Networks

A Watch Communications Company

PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173

Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897

adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com

www.broadbandnetworks.com

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Adam Kennedy 
wrote:

> I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
> Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
> makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a
> Debian box and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send
> SMS from the unit directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I
> think and cost us about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.
>
>
> Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
>
> Broadband Networks
>
> A Watch Communications Company
>
> PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
>
> Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
>
> adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
>
> www.broadbandnetworks.com
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:38 PM,  wrote:
>
>> I plan to continue living in a rural area with a GSM provider that
>> will support 2G. =)
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:24 PM
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Cc: frnk...@iname.com
>> Subject: Re: SMS gateways
>>
>> In article <006501d14b31$7c478e40$74d6aac0$@iname.com> you write:
>> >Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS:
>> http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms
>> >
>> >Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't
>> >stable,
>> needing a reboot every few months,
>> >but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.
>>
>> It looked interesting until I got to the part where it says it uses a
>> 2G GSM modem.  AT has said quite firmly that they will turn off
>> their 2G network in 2017, and press reports say that T-Mobile is
>> already turning off 2G in favor of LTE.
>>
>> What do you plan to do instead next year?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

[Larry Sheldon]

On 1/12/2016 03:47, Marc Storck wrote:

Today the situation cleared on it’s own as it appears. (at least I
haven’t been notified of any human action)


Ancient wire-line telephone and telegraph (aka "data" in the latter 
days) technology, trouble ticket code "CCWT" ("Came Clear While Testing").



--
sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

[Baldur Norddahl]

Do you seek information on how to plan subnetting or on more technical
issues like how to dual stack your network? In the later case, you would
need to tell more about your network. Eg. if you have a MPLS network (like
we do) and you have your internet in a L3VPN enabling IPv6 is really easy
and has almost no impact on the network.

As an alternative to the plan that Owen describes, I can offer the way we
did it: Our IPv6 address plan is tied to our IPv4 addressing, such that
there is a mapping from IPv4 address to IPv6 /48 prefix. That way we do not
need to allocate IPv6 as such.

The mapping is a database with IPv4 /24 as key and IPv6 /40 as value.
Example:

85.204.120.0/24 maps to 2a00:7660:500::/40.

Take the user with the IPv4 address 85.204.120.12. This address maps to
2a00:7660:50b::/48. Note that 12 is "0b" in hexadecimal.

We are an eyeball network where most users have only one single IPv4
address. We assign the IPv4 addresses statically (never changes). A few
users bought extra IPv4 address and that creates a hole in our address
plan, but we do not care. Officially the extra /48 is not assigned to the
user, because that would be against the rules.

Our address plan creates a very efficient allocation scheme, that is not
strictly needed as you have the more loose ARIN rules (we are in RIPE).

Regards,

Baldur

Re: SMS gateways

[Bjørn Mork]

Adam Kennedy  writes:

> I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
> Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
> makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a Debian box
> and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send SMS from the unit
> directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us
> about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.

Note that messaging in LTE networks tend to use IP, just like voice in
LTE networks.  It seems a little awkward having to use an LTE device
just to set up a dedicated IP VPN for SMS delivery if you have any other
fixed IP access at the site...

But I guess hiding all the nasty IMS implementation details in the LTE
module firmware, controlling it by standard GSM AT commands, has some
benefit here.  At least the firmware source code is unavailable so you
don't see how hideous it is :)


Bjørn

Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

[Bjørn Mork]

Baldur Norddahl  writes:

> Note that 12 is "0b" in hexadecimal.

Only when gravity is negative IIRC.


Bjørn

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

[Jim Mercer]

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:54:49AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
> As an end user, you can get an IPv6 /48 and still qualify for the /24 of 
> transitional space as well.

did ARIN hold back some blocks to service the 'transitional space', or would
that be going to the STLS list?

--jim



> 
> Owen
> 
> > On Jan 11, 2016, at 18:35 , Matthew D. Hardeman  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I???m aware of the /24 block for facilitation concept, but my client???s 
> > use case can qualify as an end-user rather than as an ISP, thus their 
> > annual operating cost is smaller than even the X-SMALL ISP category, which 
> > they???d land in ??? if they opted for the smaller /36 initial IPv6 direct 
> > allocation, rather than the default /32 direct allocation.
> > 
> > That seems to balance toward buying an existing /24.
> > 
> >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Rafael Possamai  wrote:
> >> 
> >> If you apply for an IPv6 block, as an ISP, and you have the intention of 
> >> truly utilizing it, then you can apply for a /24 to facilitate that 
> >> transition. 
> >> 
> >> It will cost you about $1500 or so, which is about half of what a /24 is 
> >> going for in the transfer market.
> >> 
> >> Thing is, if you take the IPv6 block just to use the /24 they give you, 
> >> then one could argue you are cheating the system.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman 
> >> > wrote:
> >> I???m looking to buy a /24 of space for a new multi-homed network in the 
> >> ARIN region.  Can anyone out there speak to going rates for a /24 and best 
> >> places to shop?
> >> 
> >> 
> > 

-- 
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arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather
to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up,
totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"
 -- Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

[Jake Mertel]

The held back a /10 from their final /8 allocation. Details @
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four10 .


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On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Jim Mercer  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:54:49AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> As an end user, you can get an IPv6 /48 and still qualify for the /24 of 
>> transitional space as well.
>
> did ARIN hold back some blocks to service the 'transitional space', or would
> that be going to the STLS list?
>
> --jim
>
>
>
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> > On Jan 11, 2016, at 18:35 , Matthew D. Hardeman  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I???m aware of the /24 block for facilitation concept, but my client???s 
>> > use case can qualify as an end-user rather than as an ISP, thus their 
>> > annual operating cost is smaller than even the X-SMALL ISP category, which 
>> > they???d land in ??? if they opted for the smaller /36 initial IPv6 direct 
>> > allocation, rather than the default /32 direct allocation.
>> >
>> > That seems to balance toward buying an existing /24.
>> >
>> >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Rafael Possamai  
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If you apply for an IPv6 block, as an ISP, and you have the intention of 
>> >> truly utilizing it, then you can apply for a /24 to facilitate that 
>> >> transition.
>> >>
>> >> It will cost you about $1500 or so, which is about half of what a /24 is 
>> >> going for in the transfer market.
>> >>
>> >> Thing is, if you take the IPv6 block just to use the /24 they give you, 
>> >> then one could argue you are cheating the system.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> I???m looking to buy a /24 of space for a new multi-homed network in the 
>> >> ARIN region.  Can anyone out there speak to going rates for a /24 and 
>> >> best places to shop?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
> --
> Jim Mercer Reptilian Research  j...@reptiles.org+1 416 410-5633
>
> Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
> arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather
> to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up,
> totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"
>  -- Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

[Larry Sheldon]

On 1/12/2016 15:15, Jonathan Smith wrote:

Wait I thought that was NTF, (No Trouble Found), as it magically cleared
up.  Amazing what was/is done to avoid reporting issues/problems to the
PUC or the like.


"NTF" is valid only if the reported condition was not observed by the 
reporter at all.  "CCWT" means the reporter observed the reported 
condition that disappeared while inserting or removing test cords, 
thumping on the bay iron, or correcting an unrelated adjustment.


Couple of short war stories--we had a scandal and investigation of the 
proportion of tickets that were closed "NTF".


Turns out that the night equipment man, as a matter of habit, every 
night when he arrived for work, retrieved a piece of 2 X 4 he had 
hidden, and whacked the end of every lineup on his way in.


In a different office, but the same kind of problem, one day the tool 
crib clerk stopped me and asked about a stack of tickets in an 
"analysis" project she had been assigned.


All of the tickets in the stack were mine, and they all referred to 
equipment that day-shift patched-out and wrote up that night-shift 
cleared as NTF or CCWT.  I had gotten tired of writing up the sad and 
detailed story every day and had started reporing them as "AFU"-- she 
wanted to know what "AFU" meant.


I told her it meant "All Fouled Up", where upon she picked up another 
stack, also mine, marked "NFG".


I told her those were the same at the AFU ones.


On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Larry Sheldon > wrote:

On 1/12/2016 03:47, Marc Storck wrote:

Today the situation cleared on it’s own as it appears. (at least I
haven’t been notified of any human action)


Ancient wire-line telephone and telegraph (aka "data" in the latter
days) technology, trouble ticket code "CCWT" ("Came Clear While
Testing").


--
sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)





--
sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

[Larry Sheldon]

On 1/12/2016 19:04, Larry Sheldon wrote:

On 1/12/2016 15:15, Jonathan Smith wrote:

Wait I thought that was NTF, (No Trouble Found), as it magically cleared
up.  Amazing what was/is done to avoid reporting issues/problems to the
PUC or the like.


"NTF" is valid only if the reported condition was not observed by the
reporter at all.  "CCWT" means the reporter observed the reported
condition that disappeared while inserting or removing test cords,
thumping on the bay iron, or correcting an unrelated adjustment.


That is a really muddy statement--should have said:

"NTF" is valid only if the reported condition was not observed by the
tester at all.  "CCWT" means the tester observed the reported
condition, but disappeared while inserting or removing test cords,
thumping on the bay iron, or correcting an unrelated adjustment and not 
as a result of a palliative action.


--
sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

[Baldur Norddahl]

Yes sorry I have program to do the calculation in production. Correcting
the bug is left as an exercise for the reader.

Regards

Baldur
Den 12/01/2016 16.33 skrev "Bjørn Mork" :

> Baldur Norddahl  writes:
>
> > Note that 12 is "0b" in hexadecimal.
>
> Only when gravity is negative IIRC.
>
>
> Bjørn
>