[NANOG-announce] NANOG 87 Registration Now Open

2022-11-15 Thread NANOG Support 
Dear NANOG Community,


NANOG 87 hosted by Path Network , will be held virtually
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January 24, 2023

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NANOG 87 Registration Now Open

2022-11-15 Thread NANOG Support 
Dear NANOG Community,


NANOG 87 hosted by Path Network , will be held virtually
and in person, in Atlanta, Georgia, February 13-15, 2023.

   1.

   Registration Fees + Deadlines
   2.

   Guest Passes + Fees
   3.

   Cancellation Fees
   4.

   Hotel Guest Room Block
   5.

   Safety + Travel
   6.

   Appointment Tool


Registration online here:
https://www.nanog.org/events/nanog-87/registration/


Fee Start Date

Fee End Date

In Person Member

In Person Non Member

In Person Student

Virtual

Early

November 15, 2022

December 12, 2022

$675

$700

$100

$100

Standard

December 13, 2022

January 23, 2023

$775

$800

$100

$100

Late

January 24, 2023

February 11, 2023

$875

$900

$100

$100

Onsite

February 12, 2023

February 15, 2023

$1,075

$1,100

$100

$100



   1.

   NANOG registration fees : NANOG registration fees are in USD and include
   the following:
   -

  Access to general and breakout sessions
  -

  Breakfast Daily
  -

  Lunch on the first two days of the event
  -

  Entry to all networking events



   1.

   Guest Passes: NANOG attendees are permitted to bring a guest to our
   social events for an additional fee. Purchase is required during
   registration.
   -

  Guest Pass for Monday Night NANOG social event - $50 per guest (limit
  2), Purchase separately.
  -

  Guest Pass for Tuesday Night Beer N Gear - $50 per guest (limit 1),
  Purchase separately.



   1.

   Cancellation fees:  NANOG hopes everyone who registers for the meeting
   will be able to attend; however, we know extenuating circumstances do
   occur. The NANOG cancellation and refund policies are as follows:


   -

   Registrations canceled on 15 November 2022 to 29 January 2023 is
   refundable but will incur a $50.00 fee
   -

   Registrations canceled on 30 January to 11 February, 2023 is refundable
   but will incur a $100.00 fee
   -

   Registrations canceled on or after 12 February, 2023 will not receive a
   refund




   1.

   *Hotel Guest Room Block*

Atlanta Marriott Marquis

265 Peachtree Center Ave NE

Atlanta, GA 30303

Online Reservations: click here 

Group Name:NANOG 87

Room Rate:  $229.00 USD  Standard Room Occupancy* (up to 2 people)

$249.00 USD Triple Occupancy*

$269.00 USD Quadruple Occupancy*

*PLUS 16.9% Local Occupancy Tax + $5.00 per room, per night Georgia Hotel
Motel fee.

Group Rate Expires: 26 Jan, 2023 OR once the NANOG block is filled
Reservations: +1.404.521. OR Toll Free 1.888.236.2427
Check In Time: 4:00PM
Check Out Time:  11:00AM

Cancellation Policy: Guests can cancel their reservations 72 hours prior to
their arrival to receive a full refund of their deposit. Any reservation
canceled after 72 priors to arrival will forfeit a fee of one night's room
and tax.

Be Aware: Anyone contacting individuals and representing itself as NANOG’s
housing vendor or selling the meeting registration list  is fraudulent.

Parking Options: (prices subject to change.)

   -

   Valet hourly rates 0-1 $20, 1-2 $25, 3-5 $40, 5-7 $45, 7+ $55 / USD $60
   per day oversized vehicles-no buses/RVs/duallies



   1.

   Covid-19 Health + Safety

To see our latest protocols please visit our website:
https://www.nanog.org/events/nanog-87/safety-travel/


   1.

   *NANOG Appointment Tool*

The new NANOG Appointment Tool is now available as a public beta. Opt-in
via the registration process or on your NANOG profile. As this is a beta,
we have a Public Beta forum
 where you can
report any issues.

We look forward to seeing you in Atlanta!

Sincerely, the NANOG Staff

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Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Jared Mauch 



> On Nov 15, 2022, at 2:09 PM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 12:55 PM, Eric Litvin  wrote:
> A, Gbics: 
> 
> If you google ws-g5483, 84, 86, 87 - you’ll see the whole line up. All had sc 
> connectors except 83 which was copper rj45 connector.
> 
> 
> 
> Well, clearly that's not true.
> 
> As examples:
> The Cisco GigaStack GBIC - 
> https://www.mtmnet.com/PDF_FILES/WS-X3500-XL_DataSheet.pdf - uses the 6 pin 
> IEEE1394 (Firewire) connector
> 
> 1000Base-CX uses twinax shielded twisted pair and the "HSSDC" connector - 
> e.g: https://www.ebay.com/itm/372539150316
> 
> I've seen (but cannot find a photo at the moment) a DB-9 GBIC (to allow 
> connection to DB-9 fiber channel stuff)
> 
> Someone used to sell an HD-BNC GBIC  - basically the GBIC version of 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1430372-REG/wohler_sfp_sdi_output_3g_sdi_transceiver_hd_bnc_connectors.html
> 
> I've also somewhere seen an "F-style" coax GBIC to allow reuse of in-building 
> coax - basically looked like a GBIC form factor version of 
> http://www.mdslink.com/magic-sfp/ 


There’s a lot of things here that are feasible, because many modules are in the 
same form factor, eg XFP that is EDFA etc.

The specs (SFF-8024) have a variety of types and encodings with GBIC 2.4.2 and 
table 4.2

The SFF-8024 is being revved to v4.9.2 right now, so there’s always 
enhancements.

The SFP can be used to do SDI or other types of output that are non-IP.

It is nice to seeing things move to CMIS if you’ve dealt with all the 
lack-of-clarity in the hardware and software specifications for what bits are 
set or required to be set, which is why some optics haven’t always worked 
because the EEPROM had TX_Disable set or similar.

- Jared

Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Warren Kumari 
On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 12:55 PM, Eric Litvin  wrote:

> A, Gbics:
>
> If you google ws-g5483, 84, 86, 87 - you’ll see the whole line up. All had
> sc connectors except 83 which was copper rj45 connector.
>


Well, clearly that's not true.

As examples:
The Cisco GigaStack GBIC -
https://www.mtmnet.com/PDF_FILES/WS-X3500-XL_DataSheet.pdf - uses the 6 pin
IEEE1394 (Firewire) connector

1000Base-CX uses twinax shielded twisted pair and the "HSSDC" connector -
e.g: https://www.ebay.com/itm/372539150316

I've seen (but cannot find a photo at the moment) a DB-9 GBIC (to allow
connection to DB-9 fiber channel stuff)

Someone used to sell an HD-BNC GBIC  - basically the GBIC version of
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1430372-REG/wohler_sfp_sdi_output_3g_sdi_transceiver_hd_bnc_connectors.html

I've also somewhere seen an "F-style" coax GBIC to allow reuse of
in-building coax - basically looked like a GBIC form factor version of
http://www.mdslink.com/magic-sfp/


W



> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 15, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Bjørn Mork  wrote:
>
> Maybe you're thinking of X2, looking similar to GBIC but even bigger?
> There were converters taking 2 gig SFPs in one X2 slot.
>
> Don't think either GBIC to SFP or GBIC with LC makes much sense. The
> alternatives were dirt cheap and easily available by the time these could
> have been products.
>
> Bjørn
>
> Matt Erculiani  writes:
>
> I feel like I've seen GBIC sleeves that accept SFP modules very similar to
> QSFP+ CVRs, but I can't seem to find any evidence of these ever existing,
> so perhaps I'm misremembering.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:23 AM Mel Beckman  wrote:
>
> Oh. And it’s not “OCD”. It’s “CDO”, with letters in ascending sequence. :)
>
> -mel via cell
>
> On Nov 15, 2022, at 8:18 AM, Mel Beckman  wrote:
>
> No. GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge. LC stands for Little
>
> Connector. Thus they are not compatible.
>
> -mel via cell
>
> On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
>
> Hi there all,
>
> While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized
>
> that I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering
> if anyone else had / if such a thing actually exists.
>
> Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you
>
> arrived somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing
> fiber with LC connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an
> LC-SC convertor, but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.
>
> A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such
>
> a thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC'
> connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually
> be compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or
> copper (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one
> made them.
>
> So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And,
>
> if so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)
>
> Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my
>
> (OCD) curiosity...
>
> W
>
>

Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Jay Hennigan 

On 11/15/22 08:16, Mel Beckman wrote:

No. GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge. LC stands for Little 
Connector. Thus they are not compatible.


LC is Little Click. As opposed to ST = Stab and Twist and SC = Stab and 
Click.


I haven't seen such a thing for GBIC to SFP and the height may be 
insufficient to do so, but in the 10G realm there are adapters that 
convert an X2 slot to accept SFP+.


I've never seen a native GBIC with LC connectors.

There are these things, but you have to remove the clip on the LC side 
to separate them. https://www.fs.com/products/32579.html


--
Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
503 897-8550 - WB6RDV

Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Eric Litvin 
A, Gbics:

If you google ws-g5483, 84, 86, 87 - you’ll see the whole line up. All had sc 
connectors except 83 which was copper rj45 connector. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Bjørn Mork  wrote:
> 
> Maybe you're thinking of X2, looking similar to GBIC but even bigger?
> There were converters taking 2 gig SFPs in one X2 slot.
> 
> Don't think either GBIC to SFP or GBIC with LC makes much sense.  The
> alternatives were dirt cheap and easily available by the time these
> could have been products.
> 
> 
> Bjørn
> 
> Matt Erculiani  writes:
> 
>> I feel like I've seen GBIC sleeves that accept SFP modules very similar to
>> QSFP+ CVRs, but I can't seem to find any evidence of these ever existing,
>> so perhaps I'm misremembering.
>> 
>> -Matt
>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:23 AM Mel Beckman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh. And it’s not “OCD”. It’s “CDO”, with letters in ascending sequence. :)
>>> 
>>> -mel via cell
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2022, at 8:18 AM, Mel Beckman  wrote:
 
 No. GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge. LC stands for Little
>>> Connector. Thus they are not compatible.
 
 -mel via cell
 
> On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there all,
> 
> While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized
>>> that I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if
>>> anyone else had / if such a thing actually exists.
> 
> Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you
>>> arrived somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing
>>> fiber with LC connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an
>>> LC-SC convertor, but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.
> 
> A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such
>>> a thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC'
>>> connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually
>>> be compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or
>>> copper (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one
>>> made them.
> 
> So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And,
>>> if so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)
> 
> Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my
>>> (OCD) curiosity...
> W
> 
> 
>>>

Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Bjørn Mork 
Maybe you're thinking of X2, looking similar to GBIC but even bigger?
There were converters taking 2 gig SFPs in one X2 slot.

Don't think either GBIC to SFP or GBIC with LC makes much sense.  The
alternatives were dirt cheap and easily available by the time these
could have been products.


Bjørn

Matt Erculiani  writes:

> I feel like I've seen GBIC sleeves that accept SFP modules very similar to
> QSFP+ CVRs, but I can't seem to find any evidence of these ever existing,
> so perhaps I'm misremembering.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:23 AM Mel Beckman  wrote:
>
>> Oh. And it’s not “OCD”. It’s “CDO”, with letters in ascending sequence. :)
>>
>> -mel via cell
>>
>> > On Nov 15, 2022, at 8:18 AM, Mel Beckman  wrote:
>> >
>> > No. GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge. LC stands for Little
>> Connector. Thus they are not compatible.
>> >
>> > -mel via cell
>> >
>> >> On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> Hi there all,
>> >>
>> >> While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized
>> that I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if
>> anyone else had / if such a thing actually exists.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you
>> arrived somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing
>> fiber with LC connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an
>> LC-SC convertor, but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.
>> >>
>> >> A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such
>> a thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC'
>> connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually
>> be compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or
>> copper (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one
>> made them.
>> >>
>> >> So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And,
>> if so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)
>> >>
>> >> Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my
>> (OCD) curiosity...
>> >> W
>> >>
>> >>
>>

Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Shawn L via NANOG 

Those are Twin Gig Converter Modules.  They went in the 3560 series (and 
probably others).  You could either insert a 10 gig module, or the converter 
module and get 2 1-gig sfp slots.
 

-Original Message-
From: "Matt Erculiani" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 11:26am
To: "Mel Beckman" 
Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" 
Subject: Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...



I feel like I've seen GBIC sleeves that accept SFP modules very similar to 
QSFP+ CVRs, but I can't seem to find any evidence of these ever existing, so 
perhaps I'm misremembering. 
-Matt


On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:23 AM Mel Beckman <[ m...@beckman.org ]( 
mailto:m...@beckman.org )> wrote:Oh. And it’s not “OCD”. It’s “CDO”, with 
letters in ascending sequence. :)

 -mel via cell

 > On Nov 15, 2022, at 8:18 AM, Mel Beckman <[ m...@beckman.org ]( 
 > mailto:m...@beckman.org )> wrote:
 > 
 > No. GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge. LC stands for Little 
 > Connector. Thus they are not compatible. 
 > 
 > -mel via cell
 > 
 >> On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Warren Kumari <[ war...@kumari.net ]( 
 >> mailto:war...@kumari.net )> wrote:
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Hi there all,
 >> 
 >> While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized that 
 >> I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if 
 >> anyone else had / if such a thing actually exists.
 >> 
 >> Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you arrived 
 >> somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing fiber with 
 >> LC connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an LC-SC 
 >> convertor, but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.
 >> 
 >> A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such a 
 >> thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC' 
 >> connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually 
 >> be compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or 
 >> copper (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one 
 >> made them.
 >> 
 >> So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And, if 
 >> so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)
 >> 
 >> Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my 
 >> (OCD) curiosity...
 >> W
 >> 
 >> 
-- 


Matt Erculiani
ERCUL-ARIN

RE: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread warren 
On Tue, Nov 15 2022 at 11:16 AM, Jamie Bowden 
wrote:

> Warren,
>
>
>
> Do SFP+ modules count?
>

Nope -- it has to be an old-school (~1.2" wide) GBIC style thingie. SFP(+)
/ XENPAK / X2 / QSFP / X2-SFP adapters, etc are all excluded...

W


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> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2022 10:56 AM
> *To:* North American Network Operators' Group 
> *Subject:* [External] Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...
>
>
>
> Hi there all,
>
>
>
> While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized that
> I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if
> anyone else had / if such a thing actually exists.
>
>
>
> Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you arrived
> somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing fiber with
> LC connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an LC-SC
> convertor, but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.
>
>
>
> A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such a
> thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC'
> connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually
> be compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or
> copper (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one
> made them.
>
>
>
> So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And, if
> so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)
>
>
>
> Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my
> (OCD) curiosity...
>
> W
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Matt Erculiani 
I feel like I've seen GBIC sleeves that accept SFP modules very similar to
QSFP+ CVRs, but I can't seem to find any evidence of these ever existing,
so perhaps I'm misremembering.

-Matt

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:23 AM Mel Beckman  wrote:

> Oh. And it’s not “OCD”. It’s “CDO”, with letters in ascending sequence. :)
>
> -mel via cell
>
> > On Nov 15, 2022, at 8:18 AM, Mel Beckman  wrote:
> >
> > No. GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge. LC stands for Little
> Connector. Thus they are not compatible.
> >
> > -mel via cell
> >
> >> On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> Hi there all,
> >>
> >> While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized
> that I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if
> anyone else had / if such a thing actually exists.
> >>
> >> Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you
> arrived somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing
> fiber with LC connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an
> LC-SC convertor, but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.
> >>
> >> A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such
> a thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC'
> connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually
> be compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or
> copper (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one
> made them.
> >>
> >> So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And,
> if so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)
> >>
> >> Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my
> (OCD) curiosity...
> >> W
> >>
> >>
>


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Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Kevin Shymkiw 
> GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge

Classic - I needed a good laugh for today :)

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:17 AM Mel Beckman  wrote:
>
> No. GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge. LC stands for Little 
> Connector. Thus they are not compatible.
>
> -mel via cell
>
> > On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Hi there all,
> >
> > While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized that 
> > I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if 
> > anyone else had / if such a thing actually exists.
> >
> > Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you arrived 
> > somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing fiber with 
> > LC connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an LC-SC 
> > convertor, but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.
> >
> > A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such a 
> > thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC' 
> > connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually 
> > be compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or 
> > copper (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one 
> > made them.
> >
> > So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And, if 
> > so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)
> >
> > Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my 
> > (OCD) curiosity...
> > W
> >
> >

Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Mel Beckman 
Oh. And it’s not “OCD”. It’s “CDO”, with letters in ascending sequence. :)

-mel via cell

> On Nov 15, 2022, at 8:18 AM, Mel Beckman  wrote:
> 
> No. GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge. LC stands for Little 
> Connector. Thus they are not compatible. 
> 
> -mel via cell
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there all,
>> 
>> While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized that 
>> I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if 
>> anyone else had / if such a thing actually exists.
>> 
>> Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you arrived 
>> somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing fiber with LC 
>> connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an LC-SC convertor, 
>> but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.
>> 
>> A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such a 
>> thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC' 
>> connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually be 
>> compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or copper 
>> (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one made them.
>> 
>> So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And, if 
>> so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)
>> 
>> Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my (OCD) 
>> curiosity...
>> W
>> 
>>

RE: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Jamie Bowden via NANOG 
Warren,

Do SFP+ modules count?

https://www.enetusa.com/455886-b21-enc
https://www.enetusa.com/455883-b21-enc

I have a pair of the multimode versions of this sitting on my desk as I type 
this.

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From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
Warren Kumari
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 10:56 AM
To: North American Network Operators' Group 
Subject: [External] Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

Hi there all,

While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized that I'd 
never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if anyone else 
had / if such a thing actually exists.

Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you arrived 
somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing fiber with LC 
connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an LC-SC convertor, 
but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.

A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such a thing 
*could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC' connector), but I 
wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually be compliant with the 
specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or copper (coax with BNC, TNC 
or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one made them.

So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And, if so, 
"pics or it didn't happen"... :-)

Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my (OCD) 
curiosity...
W

Re: Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Mel Beckman 
No. GBIC stands for Great Big Inserted Cartridge. LC stands for Little 
Connector. Thus they are not compatible. 

-mel via cell

> On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there all,
> 
> While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized that 
> I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if anyone 
> else had / if such a thing actually exists.
> 
> Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you arrived 
> somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing fiber with LC 
> connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an LC-SC convertor, 
> but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.
> 
> A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such a 
> thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC' 
> connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually be 
> compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or copper 
> (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one made them.
> 
> So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And, if 
> so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)
> 
> Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my (OCD) 
> curiosity...
> W
> 
>

Random shower thought: GBIC with LC connector...

2022-11-15 Thread Warren Kumari 
Hi there all,

While looking through my big box of random optics I suddenly realized that
I'd never seen a GBIC with an LC connector, and I started wondering if
anyone else had / if such a thing actually exists.

Yes, I realize that this would be a fairly niche device - if you arrived
somewhere with a device that took GBICs and there was existing fiber with
LC connectors you could just replace the patch cable or use an LC-SC
convertor, but that doesn't really satisfy my curiosity.

A quick look through the GBIC MSA / SFF documentation implies that such a
thing *could* probably exist (there is a defined value for the 'LC'
connector), but I wasn't able to actually find any. It might not actually
be compliant with the specs (the document I found only lists SC fiber or
copper (coax with BNC, TNC or DB-9?!)), but that doesn't mean that no-one
made them.

So, has anyone seen a regular (30mm/1.2") GBIC with LC connectors? And, if
so, "pics or it didn't happen"... :-)

Obviously I don't have an actual use for this, it's just to satisfy my
(OCD) curiosity...
W