Re: Hulu thinks we're a VPN provider.
https://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/ On Thu, Oct 26, 2023, 10:50 AM richey goldberg wrote: > Our ASN is under one our company names, VPNtranet which was formed long > before streaming services and consumer VPNs were a thing. At no time have > we or will we ever offer VPN services however we have recently been blocked > by Hulu because they have assumed we’re a VPN provider. Trying to get > to someone at Hulu has been challenging because the limited contact we have > had with support has been a very futile effort. > > > > Does anyone have a contact or know how you can communicate with someone at > Hulu has a clue? > > > > > > -richey >
Hulu thinks we're a VPN provider.
Our ASN is under one our company names, VPNtranet which was formed long before streaming services and consumer VPNs were a thing. At no time have we or will we ever offer VPN services however we have recently been blocked by Hulu because they have assumed we’re a VPN provider. Trying to get to someone at Hulu has been challenging because the limited contact we have had with support has been a very futile effort. Does anyone have a contact or know how you can communicate with someone at Hulu has a clue? -richey
Re: Pulling of Network Maps
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:01 AM Tom Beecher wrote: > My experience with maps over the last decade tells me that even most vendors > don't actually know where they are. :) So true. And not that young a problem. I leased some dark fiber more than a decade ago. They sent an unexpectedly expensive build proposal to connect my building. I asked: "Why are you trenching to the manhole down the street instead of the one right outside?" They asked, "what manhole?" Long story short, they dispatched a guy who popped the cover, pumped the water out of the vault and confirmed that they had a location they didn't know about. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin b...@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/
Re: Pulling of Network Maps
But it already is publicly available to someone that's interested enough via the permits issued by the appropriate jurisdictions or if you put in 811 design stage tickets. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Denis Fondras" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:22:56 PM Subject: Re: Pulling of Network Maps Le Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:17:22AM -0500, Mike Hammett a écrit : > Has anyone else noticed a trend of some network operators that previously > offered street-level detailed maps, not only upon request, but also posted > publicly have started to only provide them upon quotes? > There is no small profit :) Also some will fear sabotage if the pathway is publicly available.
Re: Pulling of Network Maps
Le Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:17:22AM -0500, Mike Hammett a écrit : > Has anyone else noticed a trend of some network operators that previously > offered street-level detailed maps, not only upon request, but also posted > publicly have started to only provide them upon quotes? > There is no small profit :) Also some will fear sabotage if the pathway is publicly available.
Re: Pulling of Network Maps
I had that too. The map showed a facility was online. It wasn't. Lots of build to get there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Tom Beecher" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:01:33 PM Subject: Re: Pulling of Network Maps If it's too hard for me to figure out where you are, you just plain won't get the sale. My experience with maps over the last decade tells me that even most vendors don't actually know where they are. :) On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 12:18 PM Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: Has anyone else noticed a trend of some network operators that previously offered street-level detailed maps, not only upon request, but also posted publicly have started to only provide them upon quotes? Not even the popular online mapping services have current-enough-to-be-useful maps. The claim is that it's proprietary. A) It wasn't before and B) No it isn't. Everything you've ever done is a FOIA request or 811 design ticket away. I'm not sure how this helps the companies. It certainly makes it harder for me trying to piece networks together when they won't tell me where they are until I give them A and Z locations. If it's too hard for me to figure out where you are, you just plain won't get the sale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: Pulling of Network Maps
> > If it's too hard for me to figure out where you are, you just plain won't > get the sale. My experience with maps over the last decade tells me that even most vendors don't actually know where they are. :) On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 12:18 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > Has anyone else noticed a trend of some network operators that previously > offered street-level detailed maps, not only upon request, but also posted > publicly have started to only provide them upon quotes? > > Not even the popular online mapping services have > current-enough-to-be-useful maps. > > The claim is that it's proprietary. A) It wasn't before and B) No it > isn't. Everything you've ever done is a FOIA request or 811 design ticket > away. > > I'm not sure how this helps the companies. It certainly makes it harder > for me trying to piece networks together when they won't tell me where they > are until I give them A and Z locations. If it's too hard for me to figure > out where you are, you just plain won't get the sale. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com >
Re: Pulling of Network Maps
The pessimistic (and likely most realistic) take is that enabling potential customers to do research like that is seen as a missed opportunity for a sales contact. -- Original Message -- From "Mike Hammett" To "NANOG" Date 10/26/2023 12:17:22 Subject Pulling of Network Maps Has anyone else noticed a trend of some network operators that previously offered street-level detailed maps, not only upon request, but also posted publicly have started to only provide them upon quotes? Not even the popular online mapping services have current-enough-to-be-useful maps. The claim is that it's proprietary. A) It wasn't before and B) No it isn't. Everything you've ever done is a FOIA request or 811 design ticket away. I'm not sure how this helps the companies. It certainly makes it harder for me trying to piece networks together when they won't tell me where they are until I give them A and Z locations. If it's too hard for me to figure out where you are, you just plain won't get the sale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
Pulling of Network Maps
Has anyone else noticed a trend of some network operators that previously offered street-level detailed maps, not only upon request, but also posted publicly have started to only provide them upon quotes? Not even the popular online mapping services have current-enough-to-be-useful maps. The claim is that it's proprietary. A) It wasn't before and B) No it isn't. Everything you've ever done is a FOIA request or 811 design ticket away. I'm not sure how this helps the companies. It certainly makes it harder for me trying to piece networks together when they won't tell me where they are until I give them A and Z locations. If it's too hard for me to figure out where you are, you just plain won't get the sale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: Charter DNS servers returning invalid IP addresses
"Jason J. Gullickson via NANOG" writes: > I've been working for a week or so to solve a problem with DNS > resolution for Charter customers for our domain bonesinjars.com. I've > reached-out to Charter directly but since I'm not a customer I > couldn't get any help from them. I was directed by a friend to this > list in hopes that there may be able to reach a Charter/Spectrum > engineer who might be able to explain and/or resolve this one. > > A dig against Google's DNS servers correctly returns 4 A records: > > dig bonesinjars.com 8.8.8.8 Guess you wanted dig bonesinjars.com @8.8.8.8 ? > ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53) (UDP) This is not 8.8.8.8 > dig bonesinjars.com 24.196.64.53 still missing @ > ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53) This is not 24.196.64.53 Bjørn
