Re: NANOG 90 Attendance?
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 8:31 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I haven't been to a NANOG meeting in a while. While going through the > attendee list for NANOG 90 to try to book meetings with people, I noticed a > lack of (or extremely minimal) attendance by several organizations that > have traditionally had several employees attend. I've also noticed that > some organizations I had an interest in were only sending sales people, not > technical people. > There have been a few changes - part of this is driven by post-pandemic decreased travel budget in many organizations, part by industry changes and consolidation, but also a fair bit seems to be because the tone of NANOG has changed and become much more of a polished, sales-y feeling event than it used to be…. Here is the current NANOG agenda: https://www.nanog.org/events/nanog-90/agenda/ Here is the agenda from 20 years ago: https://www.nanog.org/events/nanog-30/nanog-30-agenda-2/ This time I've received at least 6 phone calls along this line of "Hi, I'm [person] from [company]. We are a NANOG sponsor and we'd like to personally invite you to a very special [breakfast/lunch/dinner] with our [CEO/CTO]. They'd love to explain how we can solve your [security/inventory/DDoS/automation/documentation] needs…" There would alway be business stuff done at NANOG, but it used to be more along the lines of "Hey, we have too much traffic in [location]. I saw you have a cage in [location] too… If I hand you an Ethernet, can we peer there? Great…" or "So, I have a Foozle-1205 with the Turbo-forwarding(R) option, but when I configure hyperspace-bypass mode, fire comes out…. I know you also use Turbo-forwarding(R), but it looks like you still have your eyebrows. Any hints? Oh… cool, I didn't know that you could use wormholes to avoid the hyperspace issue. Ta." W How long has this been a thing? > I remember when I attended years ago that there simply wasn't enough time > to meet with technical people from all of the organizations I wanted to > meet with. Now the calendar is looking a bit dry. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com >
Re: NANOG 90 Attendance?
I guess I'm not aware of the hotel situation. I saw one was booked, the other was not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Tom Beecher" To: "Ryan Hamel" Cc: "Mike Hammett" , "nanog" Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 7:56:28 AM Subject: Re: NANOG 90 Attendance? Yup. Post pandemic, the unfortunate hotel situation, and a non-zero number of companies still have tight travel budgets. It's been slowly creeping back though. On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 8:44 AM Ryan Hamel < r...@rkhtech.org > wrote: Mike, The numbers have not bounced back to pre-pandemic levels, and it doesn't help that NANOG 90 has had some hotel issues. Ryan From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 5:31:02 AM To: nanog < nanog@nanog.org > Subject: NANOG 90 Attendance? Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. I haven't been to a NANOG meeting in a while. While going through the attendee list for NANOG 90 to try to book meetings with people, I noticed a lack of (or extremely minimal) attendance by several organizations that have traditionally had several employees attend. I've also noticed that some organizations I had an interest in were only sending sales people, not technical people. How long has this been a thing? I remember when I attended years ago that there simply wasn't enough time to meet with technical people from all of the organizations I wanted to meet with. Now the calendar is looking a bit dry. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: NANOG 90 Attendance?
Yup. Post pandemic, the unfortunate hotel situation, and a non-zero number of companies still have tight travel budgets. It's been slowly creeping back though. On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 8:44 AM Ryan Hamel wrote: > Mike, > > The numbers have not bounced back to pre-pandemic levels, and it doesn't > help that NANOG 90 has had some hotel issues. > > Ryan > > -- > *From:* NANOG on behalf of > Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2024 5:31:02 AM > *To:* nanog > *Subject:* NANOG 90 Attendance? > > Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care > when clicking links or opening attachments. > > I haven't been to a NANOG meeting in a while. While going through the > attendee list for NANOG 90 to try to book meetings with people, I noticed a > lack of (or extremely minimal) attendance by several organizations that > have traditionally had several employees attend. I've also noticed that > some organizations I had an interest in were only sending sales people, not > technical people. > > How long has this been a thing? I remember when I attended years ago that > there simply wasn't enough time to meet with technical people from all of > the organizations I wanted to meet with. Now the calendar is looking a bit > dry. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > >
Re: NANOG 90 Attendance?
Mike, The numbers have not bounced back to pre-pandemic levels, and it doesn't help that NANOG 90 has had some hotel issues. Ryan From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 5:31:02 AM To: nanog Subject: NANOG 90 Attendance? Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. I haven't been to a NANOG meeting in a while. While going through the attendee list for NANOG 90 to try to book meetings with people, I noticed a lack of (or extremely minimal) attendance by several organizations that have traditionally had several employees attend. I've also noticed that some organizations I had an interest in were only sending sales people, not technical people. How long has this been a thing? I remember when I attended years ago that there simply wasn't enough time to meet with technical people from all of the organizations I wanted to meet with. Now the calendar is looking a bit dry. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
NANOG 90 Attendance?
I haven't been to a NANOG meeting in a while. While going through the attendee list for NANOG 90 to try to book meetings with people, I noticed a lack of (or extremely minimal) attendance by several organizations that have traditionally had several employees attend. I've also noticed that some organizations I had an interest in were only sending sales people, not technical people. How long has this been a thing? I remember when I attended years ago that there simply wasn't enough time to meet with technical people from all of the organizations I wanted to meet with. Now the calendar is looking a bit dry. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
