Re: Experience on Wanguard for 'anti' DDOS solutions

2015-08-12 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Hello

My 2 cents
You can use Wanguard for the detection and A10 for the mitigation, you have 
just to play with the API.

Regards

Fabien

> Le 12 août 2015 à 16:28, Ramy Hashish  a écrit :
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 08:14:54 +0200
>> From: "marcel.durega...@yahoo.fr" 
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: Experience on Wanguard for 'anti' DDOS solutions
>> Message-ID: <55c992de.3020...@yahoo.fr>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>> 
>> anybody from this impressive list ?:
>> 
>> https://www.andrisoft.com/company/customers
>> 
>> -- Marcel
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Anybody here compared Wanguard's performance with the DDoS vendors in the
> market (Arbor, Radware, NSFocus, A10, RioRey, Staminus, F5 ..)?
> 
> Another question, have anybody from the reviewers tested the false
> positives of the box, or experienced any false positive incidents?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ramy



Re: Radware vs Arbor

2013-09-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Hi,

Maybe you can see what A10 Networks is doing. They build a new product 
dedicated to DDOS.

Regards

Fabien

Le 26 sept. 2013 à 18:47, Tempest  a écrit :

> Doing a bunch of research, and I can't find a meaningful comparison of
> these two products.  Work for a carrier, and I am looking at implementing a
> DDoS mitigation service that we can sell to our customers.  Radware is
> cheaper, but I am seeing a lot of noise in various forums that makes me
> question their viability for what we need.  Arbor has most of the market,
> and I assume there is good reason for it.  Both companies seem to be very
> deceptive about how they compare to the other.  Anyone out there with good
> hands on experience that can compare?  Not interested in input from either
> company, we get plenty of that already.  Good experience, or links to good
> write ups would be excellent...
> 
> Davis B.




Re: Verizon DSL moving to CGN

2013-04-07 Thread Fabien Delmotte
CGN is just a solution to save time, it is not a transition mechanism through 
IPv6
At the end (IPv6 at home) you will need at list :
Dual stack or NAT64/ DNS64

My 2 cents

On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson  wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Apr 2013, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> 
>> I wonder how much more painful just upgrading the dsl plant to support v6 
>> would be vs deploying the cgn equipment and funneling users through that :(
> 
> IPv6 deployment is not a short term solution to IPv4 address depletion. Would 
> you be less upset if there was IPv6 access and CPE based DS Lite (ie your 
> IPv4 is still CGN:ed, just in a different way)?
> 
> CGN is here to stay for IPv4. The solution for long term Internet growth is 
> IPv6.
> 
> -- 
> Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se
> 



Re: Metro Ethernet, VPLS clarifications

2013-02-06 Thread Fabien Delmotte
I thought that PBB was dead :)
if not forget VPLS and play with PBB and PBT :)

Welcome in the "twilight zone"

Fabien

Le 6 févr. 2013 à 16:19, Adam Vitkovsky  a écrit :

> And for fun you can also do:
> Ethernet over PBB to VPLS
> Ethernet over PBB over VPLS -that's actually called EVPN
> 
> adam
> -----Original Message-
> From: Fabien Delmotte [mailto:fdelmot...@mac.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:07 PM
> To: Scott Helms
> Cc: NANOG; Abzal Sembay
> Subject: Re: Metro Ethernet, VPLS clarifications
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My 2 cents
> 
>> VPLS can be run across several different kinds of layer 1 & 2 
>> technologies and is independent of the underlying technology because 
>> it builds it pseudo wires at layers 3 & 4. VPLS leverages technologies 
>> like Metro Ethernet and MPLS to extend a business' Ethernet LAN 
>> (technically the broadcast domain) to remote sites.  At the end of the 
>> day you can use several kinds of tunneling technologies to provide VPLS,
> including GRE, MPLS, and L2TPv3.
> 
> For fun you can also do :
>   LDP VPLS over a GRE tunnel
>   LDP over a GRE tunnel within an encrypted network
> 
> I can be wrong but VPLS is running over MPLS (rfc 4762) because it is using
> LDP
> 
> Regards
> 
> Fabien
> 
> 
> 
> Le 6 févr. 2013 à 15:41, Scott Helms  a écrit :
> 
>>> 
>>> From my understanding M-Ethernet is a some kind of service. 
>>> Standartized technology that allows to connect multiple different 
>>> networks.  And it is independent from physical and datalink layers.
>>> 
>> 
>> Metro Ethernet is a datalink (layer 2) protocol.  It also has physical 
>> (layer 1) specifications though there are several kinds of physical 
>> medium that can be used.  Most commonly its delivered over fiber 
>> (single or multi-mode depending on distance from the last active 
>> element) or cat 5E/6 twisted pair.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> And nowadays which tecnology is the most used(VPLS or Metro)? What 
>>> about MPLS? Sorry I'm a little confused. I really want to understand.
>>> 
>> 
>> VPLS can be run across several different kinds of layer 1 & 2 
>> technologies and is independent of the underlying technology because 
>> it builds it pseudo wires at layers 3 & 4. VPLS leverages technologies 
>> like Metro Ethernet and MPLS to extend a business' Ethernet LAN 
>> (technically the broadcast domain) to remote sites.  At the end of the 
>> day you can use several kinds of tunneling technologies to provide VPLS,
> including GRE, MPLS, and L2TPv3.
>> 
>> Here are the main two RFCs:
>> 
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4761
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4762
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Abzal
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Scott Helms
>> Vice President of Technology
>> ZCorum
>> (678) 507-5000
>> 
>> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
>> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: Metro Ethernet, VPLS clarifications

2013-02-06 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Hi,

My 2 cents

> VPLS can be run across several different kinds of layer 1 & 2 technologies
> and is independent of the underlying technology because it builds it pseudo
> wires at layers 3 & 4. VPLS leverages technologies like Metro Ethernet and
> MPLS to extend a business' Ethernet LAN (technically the broadcast domain)
> to remote sites.  At the end of the day you can use several kinds of
> tunneling technologies to provide VPLS, including GRE, MPLS, and L2TPv3.

For fun you can also do :
LDP VPLS over a GRE tunnel
LDP over a GRE tunnel within an encrypted network

I can be wrong but VPLS is running over MPLS (rfc 4762) because it is using LDP

Regards

Fabien



Le 6 févr. 2013 à 15:41, Scott Helms  a écrit :

>> 
>> From my understanding M-Ethernet is a some kind of service. Standartized
>> technology that allows to connect multiple different networks.  And it is
>> independent from physical and datalink layers.
>> 
> 
> Metro Ethernet is a datalink (layer 2) protocol.  It also has physical
> (layer 1) specifications though there are several kinds of physical medium
> that can be used.  Most commonly its delivered over fiber (single or
> multi-mode depending on distance from the last active element) or cat 5E/6
> twisted pair.
> 
> 
> 
>> And nowadays which tecnology is the most used(VPLS or Metro)? What about
>> MPLS? Sorry I'm a little confused. I really want to understand.
>> 
> 
> VPLS can be run across several different kinds of layer 1 & 2 technologies
> and is independent of the underlying technology because it builds it pseudo
> wires at layers 3 & 4. VPLS leverages technologies like Metro Ethernet and
> MPLS to extend a business' Ethernet LAN (technically the broadcast domain)
> to remote sites.  At the end of the day you can use several kinds of
> tunneling technologies to provide VPLS, including GRE, MPLS, and L2TPv3.
> 
> Here are the main two RFCs:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4761
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4762
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Abzal
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
> 
> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
> 




Re: Switch and router

2012-02-06 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Hi
Forget flow control, because you will use buffer and at the someone will not 
understant pause frame.
Another issue is : with pause frame you block all the traffic from the outbound 
port ... So very dangerous.
Best way : big pipe.

Regards

Fabien

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 6 févr. 2012 à 22:41, Ann Kwok  a écrit :

> Hello
> 
> There is big congestion between router and switch
> 
> I read some documents about flowcontral
> 
> Do I disable or adjust flowcontral at the same?
> 
> Can flowcontral solve the congestion issue?
> 
> How can I adjust flowcontral in cisco router and HP switch?
> 
> Thank you so much



Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Partially agree, Extreme has a "quit" good TCL implementation, and you can 
develop a lot of things around that. The system is able to reconfigure itself 
without external management console (SNMP)

Fabien

Le 27 janv. 2012 à 14:53, Drew Weaver a écrit :

> I would like to point out that in my experience if you do a lot of 
> coding/devops/automation work with SNMP extreme is a lot harder to work with 
> than Cisco and some of their OIDs/MIBs produce unusual results.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Drew
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:54 AM
> To: Erik Bais
> Cc: nanog list
> Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton
> 
> I have experience with the Extreme's Alpine, Blackdiamond, x250, and x450 and 
> i discovered that the command line is fairly different than Cisco, HP, or 
> Dell.  However, since they are a relatively small company with a small but 
> strong customer base, their support is fairly good.  I can't speak for 
> 10G/40G implementations, but from my experiences, they support has a quick 
> response time and they do quite a bit of lab replication to figure out the 
> exact root cause.
> 
> -Grant
> 
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Erik Bais  wrote:
> 
>> We have a full purple network, so my answer for this would be Extreme 
>> Networks.
>> 
>> Check out the Lipis report on the X670 / x670v 48 port 10G 1U switches.
>> 
>> vs other vendor equipment :
>> 
>> http://www.extremenetworks.com/libraries/products/ExtremeX670V_Lippis%
>> 20Report_Fall.pdf
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Erik Bais
>> 
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>> 
>> Op Jan 26, 2012 om 21:20 heeft Deric Kwok  
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> I would like to have 10G switchrecommendaton Ipref software can test 
>>> around 9.2G but we can have congestion over 6G in single port!
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 




Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
You can use BGP only for the default route no more :) forget a full view

Le 27 janv. 2012 à 15:34, Fabien Delmotte a écrit :

> Only for a full table BGP, in fact it is not able to learn a full BGP table. 
> The X480 could do it, but it is very slow and they miss some features
> 
> Fabien
> 
> 
> Le 27 janv. 2012 à 11:25, Leigh Porter a écrit :
> 
>> 
>> On 27 Jan 2012, at 10:21, "Fabien Delmotte"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I worked for Extreme, and I deployed a lot of X650 (24 10G ports) for 
>>> DataCenter environment. The box is really good.
>>> In fact if you use the box at a layer 2 it is perfect, BUT DON'T use their 
>>> BGP code, they never understood what is BGP :)
>> 
>> Is that don't use for Internet facing full table BGP or do you include iBGP 
>> for say VPN as well?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Leigh
>> 
>> 
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Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Only for a full table BGP, in fact it is not able to learn a full BGP table. 
The X480 could do it, but it is very slow and they miss some features

Fabien


Le 27 janv. 2012 à 11:25, Leigh Porter a écrit :

> 
> On 27 Jan 2012, at 10:21, "Fabien Delmotte"  wrote:
> 
>> I worked for Extreme, and I deployed a lot of X650 (24 10G ports) for 
>> DataCenter environment. The box is really good.
>> In fact if you use the box at a layer 2 it is perfect, BUT DON'T use their 
>> BGP code, they never understood what is BGP :)
> 
> Is that don't use for Internet facing full table BGP or do you include iBGP 
> for say VPN as well?
> 
> -- 
> Leigh
> 
> 
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Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
I worked for Extreme, and I deployed a lot of X650 (24 10G ports) for 
DataCenter environment. The box is really good.
In fact if you use the box at a layer 2 it is perfect, BUT DON'T use their BGP 
code, they never understood what is BGP :)

Regards

Fabien

Le 27 janv. 2012 à 09:54, Grant Ridder a écrit :

> I have experience with the Extreme's Alpine, Blackdiamond, x250, and x450
> and i discovered that the command line is fairly different than Cisco, HP,
> or Dell.  However, since they are a relatively small company with a small
> but strong customer base, their support is fairly good.  I can't speak for
> 10G/40G implementations, but from my experiences, they support has a quick
> response time and they do quite a bit of lab replication to figure out the
> exact root cause.
> 
> -Grant
> 
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Erik Bais  wrote:
> 
>> We have a full purple network, so my answer for this would be Extreme
>> Networks.
>> 
>> Check out the Lipis report on the X670 / x670v 48 port 10G 1U switches.
>> 
>> vs other vendor equipment :
>> 
>> http://www.extremenetworks.com/libraries/products/ExtremeX670V_Lippis%20Report_Fall.pdf
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Erik Bais
>> 
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>> 
>> Op Jan 26, 2012 om 21:20 heeft Deric Kwok  het
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> I would like to have 10G switchrecommendaton
>>> Ipref software can test around 9.2G but we can have congestion over 6G
>>> in single port!
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>> 
>> 




Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-17 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Hello,

You can use also rancid.

Regards

Fabien

Le 17 janv. 2012 à 20:44, Abdullah Al-Malki a écrit :

> Thank you all for your recommendations.
> I will sit this weekend and evaluate what fits into my requirements.
> 
> Thanks all
> 
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Rafael Rodriguez 
> wrote:
> 
>> If your looking for something interactive, check out Mr. CLI
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:52, Abdullah Al-Malki 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi fellows,
>>> I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem.
>>> Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some
>>> verification output "show commands" from a large number of devices.
>>> 
>>> What kind of scripting solutions you guys are using this case.
>>> 
>>> Appreciate the feedback,
>>> Abdullah
>> 




Re: Foundry MRP cohabit with STP

2011-11-15 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Hi,

You cannot enable MRP and STP on the same physical interface, but you can 
enable MRP on a specific interface and STP on another, the only issue is MRP 
and STP are using the CPU, so if you loose a hello packet you may have some 
network instability.

Regards

Fabien

P.S je suis en France si tu as besoin.

Le 15 nov. 2011 à 10:30, Viet-Hung Ton a écrit :

> Hi, 
> 
> 
> We are deploying a network using MRP of Foundry (Metro Ring Protocol of 
> Brocade now) and STP (in this case Rapid Spanning Tree Protocol-802.1W). The 
> problem is that in some networking segment, we must enable both of protocols 
> in the same interfaces and vlans for the correct function of our network. By 
> the way, as MRP and STP are 2 protocols of loop prevention, the devices of 
> Brocade force us choosing and activating just one among them that not our 
> intention. 
> 
> 
> Anybody has the same situation of some experiences in this case: how to make 
> coexist these two protocols. (MRP and STP). 
> 
> Best thanks, 
> 
> 
> Viet Ton. 
> 
> 
> 
>