need commercial connection in elkton, fl

[james jones]

Anyone have coverage on county road 305 in elkton, fl 32033.If so,
please contact me off list.

-James

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

[james jones]

Brandon,

Actually, i work for a company that just purchased a start up that deals
with DDOS for WebRTC, Websockets and grpc.

Mike,

I could see that, especially since HTTP 3.0 is UDP.

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:47 PM Brandon Svec via NANOG 
wrote:

> Never heard of that one. WebRTC is maybe easier to protect from DDOS?
>
> Brandon
>
> > On Sep 21, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Michael Thomas  wrote:
> >
> > Which makes SIPoHTTP an inevitability.
> >
> > Mike
>

Re: Voice Middleware

[james jones]

Owen,

Do you mean this
https://www.voip-info.org/asterisk-how-to-connect-to-metaswitch/?
I am not sure that is what he is looking for, but it could be. It has been
a while for me as well :)

Mike,

Could you give a little more context in what you are trying to do? Are you
looking for something that can manage all those devices via their web APIs?

-James

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG 
wrote:

> I don’t know the current state, but I believe Asterisk was going down that
> road for a while.
>
> Owen
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 05:26 , Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
> Before we build something from scratch, are there platforms that do the
> heavy lifting of talking to the Metaswitch API, Peerless's API, various LSR
> APIs, etc.?
>
> I mean this for provisioning purposes.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
>
>

Re: Outbound Route Filtering (ORF) vendor support

[james jones]

PCRE or death. Tell me if I am wrong, but I thought PCRE was the most widely 
used regex lib these day anyways. I also thought it was already in Junos.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Jeffrey Haas  wrote:
> 
> ORFs are a challenging feature and haven't gotten a lot of deployment for a 
> number of reasons.
> 
> At a high level, they're a very coarse filter.  Since each new ORF type adds 
> to the logical AND condition, you start having to be more and more permissive 
> in what you permit in the policy.  Since a significant amount of common ISP 
> policies require matching things in tuples, this doesn't translate super well 
> into many types of automatically generated ORFs.
> 
> The ext-community-orf feature was effectively supplanted by Rt-Constrain (RFC 
> 4684).
> 
> The as-path ORF was challenging because different vendors have different 
> ideas about what "regex" means and what the input tokens are.  Consider for 
> example Juniper vs. Cisco regex matching.  The abstract fix would have been 
> to define a regex that is for the feature.  I half suspect if people pushed 
> on this these days, they'd want PCRE. :-)
> 
> The RD-ORF work is part of some ongoing discussion about how to deal with VRF 
> overwhelm (prefix-limit exceed).
> 
> -- Jeff (IDR co-chair)
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 1:10 PM, Douglas Fischer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello!
>> 
>> I also found a recent draft(expires Novembre 2021) about using Route 
>> Distinguisher as a Value on ORF.
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-idr-rd-orf/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Em qua., 18 de ago. de 2021 às 11:41, Humberto Galiza 
>>  escreveu:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is anyone aware of any vendor that supports Outbound Route Filtering
>>> (ORF) based on anything other than prefix-lists?
>>> 
>>> I found these two old IETF drafts (both expired :-/) which supported
>>> the idea of filtering based on community and as-path respectively, but
>>> I wasn't able to understand if they were ever discussed at the WG and
>>> if there was any outcome of the discussion (I suspect the authors are
>>> no longer even working with the mentioned companies in the drafts):
>>> 
>>> - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chen-bgp-ext-community-orf-02
>>> - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-aspath-orf-13
>>> 
>>> Any info is very much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Douglas Fernando Fischer
>> Engº de Controle e Automação
> 

Where to get IPv4 block these day

[james jones]

hey everyone,

Been a while since I had to deal with NetOps stuff. Was wondering, where do
you go these days to get IPv4 blocks? It seems like getting assignments is
hard due to exhaustion. I have found some "Auction" sites but it all feels
very scammy. Any info would be appreciated.


-James

Re: wow, lots of akamai

[james jones]

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 11:16 AM Töma Gavrichenkov  wrote:

> Peace,
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021, 6:09 PM  wrote:
>
>> That was a lot of traffic coming out of akamai aanp clusters the last
>> couple nights!  What was it?
>>
> "Call of Duty" update again, obviously.
>
>
> https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-03-29-this-weeks-call-of-duty-warzone-update-is-over-50gb
>
> --
> Töma
>

HAHA

Roblox Security and Saftey

[james jones]

Need a contact for Security and Safety at Roblox.

Re: Parler

[james jones]

God I miss that man!

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:28 PM Jay R. Ashworth  wrote:

> - Original Message -
> > 2. Where do we expect legit insurrections to communicate?  Should
> > AWS/Facebook/Twitter boot those calling for violent uprisings in Hong
> Kong
> > (for example).
> >
> > I suppose #2 is simply one mans freedom fighter is another criminal.
>
> https://youtu.be/isMm2vF4uFs?t=281
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink
> j...@baylink.com
> Designer The Things I Think   RFC
> 2100
> Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land
> Rover DII
> St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647
> 1274
>

Looking for alternate providers

[james jones]

Greetings,

Looking for upstream alternatives in Ayer, MA (01432). Need a gigabit link.
Can be async but needs to be at least 35Mb up.

Comcast need not apply.

-James

Re: Linux router network cards

[james jones]

I wonder if they are going to get CUDA cores on the next version since they
are owned by NVIDIA now. That would be a powerful little package.


On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 1:42 AM Raymond Burkholder 
wrote:

> On 2020-10-20 22:37, Philip Loenneker wrote:
> > Take a look at the Mellanox ConnectX 5 series of cards. They handle
> DPDK, PVRDMA (basically SR-IOV that allows live migration between hosts),
> and can even process packets within the NIC for some models. They did a
> fantastic presentation at AusNOG 2019 which showed off a lot of the
> features. We tried some out with Vmware and could get 20Gbps throughput
> (limited by the 2x 10G NICs we had configured) to a VM running Linux with
> DPDK+VPP.
>
> Plus Mellanox introduced the SwitchDev capability which provides for
> offloading flow management to the hardware.
>

Re: 60ms cross continent

[james jones]

"In Theroy" -- ROFL

Don't get me wrong it would be awesome if that turns out to be the case.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 10:05 PM joe mcguckin  wrote:

> Theoretically, Starlink should be faster cross country than terrestrial
> fiber.
>
>
> Joe McGuckin
> ViaNet Communications
>
> j...@via.net
> 650-207-0372 cell
> 650-213-1302 office
> 650-969-2124 fax
>
>
>
>

Clueful Domain Name Expert from Network Solutions Needed

[james jones]

Greetings,

Hope everyone is staying healthy and safe. I am really looking for help
from someone clueful at Network Solutions. I am having major issues with
transferring a domain away from them. Turns out the primary contact on the
account has been the same for over a 15+ years. That person has not been
involved with the organization for decade and was never updated. I have
been getting the run around from customer service to for 4 months trying to
update the primary contact. I have provided all the information that has
been requested multiple times . Is there anyone on the list that might be
able to help.

P.S. Sorry for have to do this here.

-James

Re: dot-org TLD sale halted by ICANN

[james jones]

I don't know if this feasible, I would rather see the ORG TLD in the hands
of a nonprofit. That is just a personal feeling. I don't how practical that
would be though.

-James

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:20 AM Lee  wrote:

> On 5/1/20, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On May 1, 2020, at 6:19 AM, Andy Ringsmuth  wrote:
> >> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/01/icann_stops_dot_org_sale/
> >> I know this has been bantered about on the list in the past. Great
> (IMHO)
> >> to see this happen.
> >
> > Yeah, this is an excellent result in the first-half of the fight. Now
> that
> > we know who won’t be acting AGAINST non-profits, we need ICANN to run the
> > competitive process again to find who will act FOR non-profits.
>
> Wasn't the price cap removal what started this mess in for first place?
>
> Put the price cap back on for .org domains and then start the process
> for finding a new home for .org
>
> Regards,
> Lee
>

Re: CGNAT Solutions

[james jones]

How big is your ip pool for CGNAT?

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:17 AM Robert Blayzor 
wrote:

> On 4/28/20 11:01 PM, Brandon Martin wrote:
> > Depending on how many IPs you need to reclaim and what your target
> > IP:subscriber ratio is, you may be able to eliminate the need for a lot
> > of logging by assigning a range of TCP/UDP ports to a single inside IP
> > so that the TCP/UDP port number implies a specific subscriber.
> >
> > You can't get rid of all the state tracking without also having the CPE
> > know which ports to use (in which case you might as well use LW4o6 or
> > MAP), but at least you can get it down to where you really only need to
> > log (or block and dole out public IPs as needed) port-less protocols.
>
>
> I'm wondering if there are any real world examples of this, namely in
> the realm of subscriber to IP and range of ports required, etc.  ie: Is
> is a range of 1000 ports enough for one residential subscriber? How
> about SMB where no global IP is required.
>
> One would think a 1000 ports would be enough, but if you have a dozen
> devices at home all browsing and doing various things, and with IOT,
> etc, maybe not?
>
>
> --
> inoc.net!rblayzor
> XMPP: rblayzor.AT.inoc.net
> PGP:  https://pgp.inoc.net/rblayzor/
>
-- 
Sent from Gmail Mobile

Re: Sunday traffic curiosity

[james jones]

I know Facebook live had some congestion/capacity issues in some geographical 
regions this AM. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andy Ringsmuth  wrote:
> 
> Fellow NANOGers,
> 
> Not a big deal by any means, but for those of you who have traffic data, I’m 
> curious what Sunday morning looked like as compared to other Sundays. Sure, 
> Netflix and similar companies have no doubt seen traffic increase, but I’m 
> wondering if an influx of church service streaming was substantial enough to 
> cause a noticeable traffic increase.
> 
> We livestream our services and have been for about a year or so, but normally 
> average just a handful of viewers. Today, we were around 150 watching live.
> 
> 
> Andy Ringsmuth
> a...@andyring.com
> 

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

[james jones]

I get that thanks, wasn’t trying to be snarky just genuinely curious.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
> 
> 
> In response to a snarky question offlist.  Yes, the DHS letters are just 
> copies.  Yes, the DHS letters are easy to counterfeit.
> 
> Not a lawyer, but counterfeiting an official federal document during a 
> national state of emergency likely violates many federal and state laws.
> 
> DON'T DO IT.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2020, Sean Donelan wrote:
>> On some other mailing lists, FCC licensed operators are reporting they have 
>> received letters from the Department of Homeland Security authorizing 
>> "access" and "fuel" priority.
>> 
>> Occasionally, DHS issues these letters after natural disasters such as 
>> hurricanes for hospitals and critical facilities.  I haven't heard of them 
>> issued for pandemics.

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

[james jones]

Got it!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Jared Mauch  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:24 PM, james jones  wrote:
>> 
>> Fuel priority? They expecting shortage and/or power outages?
>> 
> 
> I suspect it’s more to solve issues with truck drivers going to work and 
> their job is to deliver fuel.  Some areas have been instituting curfews and 
> this would satisfy the local authorities who may stop such a driver.
> 
> - Jared
> 

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

[james jones]

Fuel priority? They expecting shortage and/or power outages?

-James

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 4:21 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:

>
> On some other mailing lists, FCC licensed operators are reporting they
> have received letters from the Department of Homeland Security authorizing
> "access" and "fuel" priority.
>
> Occasionally, DHS issues these letters after natural disasters such as
> hurricanes for hospitals and critical facilities.  I haven't heard of them
> issued for pandemics.
>
>

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

[james jones]

Does AOL count? If my first real internet connection was dial up 3600 baud
through compuserv. When I finally upgraded to 56K I thought it was light
speed.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 9:01 AM Bruce H McIntosh  wrote:

> On 1/27/20 7:59 AM, Bryan Holloway wrote:
> > [External Email]
> >
> > ... and disabling call-waiting ... ;)
> >
> We had a separate line (paid for by our work) without call-bothering on it
> for the modem.
>
> --
> 
> Bruce H. McIntosh
> Network Engineer II
> University of Florida Information Technology
> b...@ufl.edu
> 352-273-1066
>

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

[james jones]

People have faster connections these days?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:14 AM Bryan Holloway  wrote:

> This echoed events a month or so ago, and I'm curious as to what is
> making these releases more, uh, network-impacting.
>
> Game releases are hardly a new thing, but these last two events seem to
> be almost an order of magnitude higher than what we're used to (at least
> on our predominantly eyeball network.)
>
> Any thoughts from the community? We're taking steps to accommodate, but
> from a capacity-planning perspective, this seems non-linear to me.
>
> Or is it just in my head?
>
>
> On 1/23/20 9:20 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 23, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Kaiser, Erich 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah we saw that as well. Must be a game release or something.
> >
> > Yes, that’s my understanding as well.
> >
> > - Jared
> >
>

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

[james jones]

  Fornite update?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:22 AM Jared Mauch  wrote:

>
>
> > On Jan 23, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Kaiser, Erich  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah we saw that as well. Must be a game release or something.
>
> Yes, that’s my understanding as well.
>
> - Jared

Clueful Abuse Contact at Tucows

[james jones]

Looking for someone on the abuse team at Tucows. Major scam in progress via
a domain registered through them.

-James

report domains found in malware distrabution

[james jones]

just quick question:

is the abuse emails still best way to report domains that are being used in
malware scripts? or is there a more central place to report such things?

-James

Re: EXERCISE: 2019 IAA Planetary Defence Conference - Day 5 Scenario

[james jones]

Did anyone trying calling Bruce Willis?

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 10:41 AM William Herrin  wrote:

> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 11:20 AM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>
>> The scenario was chosen to stress the partcipants, not an actual asteroid
>> impact. It was a fictional scenario. This was only an exercise.
>>
>> 60 meter asteroid impact in New York City, NY (roughly Central Park, NYC)
>>
>
> So what happened? Where's the post-game? You guys had 8 years to stop the
> thing. Why is there a big hole in Manhattan? And with 10 days warning at
> the very end, why did any critical Internet operations remain active in NYC?
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>
>
> --
> William Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us
> Dirtside Systems . Web: 
>

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

[james jones]

i got it iPhone X on Xfinity Mobile

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:16 PM  wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 12:53:57 -0700, mike.l...@gmail.com said:
>
> > Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or
> wifi
> > calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and
> irresponsible of
> > the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :)
>
> Oddball corner case - I'm at home taking a sick day, and my Moto X4 on
> Project
> Fi *did* receive the alert text right at 2:18 but did *not* trigger the
> amazingly loud and
> annoying alert tone. Phone says it's set for wifi calling, but has a tower
> in
> sight too.
>
>

Re: BGP in a containers

[james jones]

Yes, that's it.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:05 PM Michel 'ic' Luczak 
wrote:

>
> > On 14 Jun 2018, at 20:56, james jones  wrote:
> >
> > I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
> > option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot
> blogs
> > and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over
> looking
> > any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?
>
> I guess / hope what you’re trying to achieve is to announce services from
> the containers using BGP. If this is the case, what you’re looking for is
> called exabgp.
>
> ic
>
>
>

BGP in a containers

[james jones]

I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?

-James

Re: Subsea availability

[james jones]

Not interactive but cool animation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlAJJI-qG2k

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Mehmet Akcin  wrote:

> yeah, I know and already reached out to my friends at Telegeography on how
> to make www.submarinecablemap.com interactive
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:35 PM, Martin Hepworth 
> wrote:
>
> > I'll put this as a starter
> >
> > http://submarine-cable-map-2018.telegeography.com/
> >
> > There's probably better by now
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 06:13, Mehmet Akcin  wrote:
> >
> >> Hello there,
> >>
> >> I am working on a masters project idea to create an interactive map of
> the
> >> world’s subsea cables (cls to cla without local loops from cls to dc)
> >>
> >> I would like to know if anyone have worked with something like this in
> the
> >> past, and whether you think it would be cool to have a map where you can
> >> see subsea cable availability.
> >>
> >> I am also going to be at nanog denver to talk about this project with
> >> people. Let me know if you are available and interested in talking on
> ways
> >> to collaborate.
> >>
> >> I have few ideas on how to make this work with using ripe atlas probe
> like
> >> devices installed in strategic locations.
> >>
> >> Mehmet
> >>
> > --
> > --
> > Martin Hepworth, CISSP
> > Oxford, UK
> >
>

Instagram Abuse Contact

[james jones]

 I need a clueful Instagram abuse contact.

-James

Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix

[james jones]

What about contacting ARIN? Does the customer have their own ASN? ETC ETC

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Naslund, Steve 
wrote:

> I would personally reach out to the technical POC for the customer.
> Perhaps have your sales rep for the account resolve the issue.
>
> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Sean Pedersen
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 1:47 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix
>
> We recently received a demand to stop announcing a "fraudulent" prefix. Is
> there an industry best practice when handling these kind of requests? Do
> you have personal or company-specific preferences or requirements? To the
> best of my knowledge, we've rarely, if ever, received such a request. This
> is relatively new territory.
>
>
>
> In this case we have a signed LOA on file for that prefix and I've reached
> out to our customer to verify the validity of the sender's request. The
> sender claims to have proof that they are authorized to speak on behalf of
> the owner. I will wait until I hear from our customer before I consider a
> response to the sender. I don't get a real sense of legitimacy from the
> sender making the request. No one else announces the prefix. Nothing about
> the request appears to be legitimate, especially considering the sender.
>
>
>
> I thought about requesting they make changes to their RIR database objects
> to confirm ownership, but all that does is verify that person has access to
> the account tied to the ORG/resource, not ownership. Current entries in the
> database list the same ORG and contact that signed the LOA. When do you get
> to the point where things look "good enough" to believe someone?
>
>
>
> Has anyone gone so far as to make the requestor provide something like a
> notarized copy stating ownership? Have you ever gotten legal departments
> involved? The RIR?
>
>
>
>

Re: Free access to measurement network

[james jones]

I would love access to this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Janusz Jezowicz  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Feel free to shoot me down if you think I am posting against the rules of
> this mailing list but I think it may be helpful for some guys here.
> 
> We have over 1000 routers deployed across US/Canada in over 700 locations
> and 130+ networks. Those routers can run network tests such as
> traceroutes,pings,http tests and can be automated using API.
> 
> I am happy to give out access to anyone on the list - free of charge (inc.
> for commercial purposes). We are just interested in seeing what can be
> built on top of it and have capacity now.
> 
> Please send me an email off-list if you are interested or want more
> information
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Janusz Jezowicz
> Speedchecker Ltd

Netscaler Help

[james jones]

Are there any netscaler experts out there? Please contact me off list.

Re: Juniper MX Sizing

[james jones]

If you are looking for small foot print I +1 the 240s.

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Jason Bothe ja...@rice.edu wrote:

 Graham,

 We use both the MX240 and MX480 (for 100G) 1800REs.  Very happy with this
 hardware.

 Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking

o   +1 713 348 5500
m  +1 713 703 3552
   ja...@rice.edu




 On 5, Dec 2014, at 10:59 AM, Graham Johnston johnst...@westmancom.com
 wrote:

  I am wondering if anyone can provide their real world experience about
 sizing Juniper MX routers as it relates to BGP.  I am needing a device that
 has a mix of layer 2 and 3 features, including MPLS, that will have a very
 low port count requirement that will primarily be used at a remote POP site
 to connect to the local IX as well as one or two full route transit
 providers.  The MX104 has what I need from a physical standpoint and a data
 plane standpoint, as well as power consumption figures.  My only concern is
 whether the REs have enough horsepower to churn through the convergence
 calculations at a rate that operators in this situation would find
 acceptable.  I realize that 'acceptable' is a moving target so I would
 happily accept feedback from people using them as to how long it takes and
 their happiness with the product.
 
  For those of you that deem the MX104 unacceptable in this kind of role
 and moved up to the MX240, what RE did you elect to use?
 
  Thanks,
  Graham Johnston
  Network Planner
  Westman Communications Group
  204.717.2829
  johnst...@westmancom.commailto:johnst...@westmancom.com
  P think green; don't print this email.
 
 

NTT NOC Contact

[james jones]

Looking to discuss a routing issue going through NTT's link to JP.

Re: NTT NOC Contact

[james jones]

We are getting a huge amount of traffic loss while sending to JP. I am
trying to figure out if the problem is with cogent or NTT. Thoughts? Here
is a MTR trace:

login02.bal (0.0.0.0)
  Thu Nov 27 01:58:22 2014

Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit


  Packets   Pings

 Host
Loss%  Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev

 1. v122-router.bal
0.0%   0.2   0.3   0.2   3.7   0.5

 2. netscaler3.bal
0.0%   0.1   0.1   0.1   0.2   0.0

 3. gw1.bal.brightcove.com
0.0%   0.6   1.9   0.2  12.4   3.2

 4. border1.te9-1.brightcoveinc-2.chg004.pnap.net
2.1%   0.9   2.1   0.4  36.5   6.5

 5. core1.te2-2-bbnet2.chg.pnap.net
0.0%   2.1   2.1   1.8   3.5   0.4

 6. te0-5-0-33.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com
0.0%   1.9   2.5   1.8  16.2   2.5

 7. be2003.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com
0.0%   2.4   2.5   2.3   3.7   0.3

 8. be2157.ccr22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com
0.0%  14.4  14.3  14.1  17.4   0.5

 9. be2133.ccr22.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com
0.0%  52.0  52.1  51.7  54.0   0.4

10. be2165.ccr22.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com
23.4%  52.7  52.8  52.6  53.3   0.2

11. be2047.ccr21.sjc03.atlas.cogentco.com
67.4%  53.5  53.5  53.4  53.8   0.1

12. verio.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com
29.8%  53.1  53.2  53.0  54.6   0.4

13. ae-6.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
67.4%  53.3  59.3  53.0  82.3  10.1

14. ae-4.r20.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net
29.8% 138.2 140.6 138.1 173.9   7.6

15. ae-1.ocn.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net
69.6% 153.8 153.9 153.8 154.0   0.0

16. 60.37.27.92
97.8% 154.1 154.1 154.1 154.1   0.0

17. 114.147.63.70
36.2% 194.0 167.0 155.0 203.5  16.7

18. 118.23.13.2
63.0% 155.8 155.9 155.8 156.1   0.1

19. 118.23.14.66
100.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0

20. p3044-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp
97.8% 150.8 150.8 150.8 150.8   0.0






On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Job Snijders j...@instituut.net wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 04:51:59AM -0500, james jones wrote:
  Looking to discuss a routing issue going through NTT's link to JP.

 Feel free to contact me off-list with the details.

 Kind regards,

 Job

Zayo opinions

[james jones]

I am current going through some vendor selection for tier 1 providers. I
was trying get some opinions on Zayo. I have personally never heard of
them. Thoughts?

Re: ms word

[james jones]

Thanks for the heads up!


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:

 this would be a good time to tll your users not to send or open ms word
 documents.  active 0day


 http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/zero-day-vulnerability-in-microsoft-word-under-active-attack/

 randy

Is there such a thing as a 10GBase-T SFP+ transciever

[james jones]

I would like to know if anyone has seen one of these? If so where? Also if
they don't exist why? It would seem to me that it would make it a lot
easier to play mix and match with fiber in the DC if they did. Would be so
hard to make the 1G SFPs faster (trying to be funny here not arrogant).


-James

MassHack and A chance to teach.

[james jones]

Hey everyone,

I am putting on a hackathon on Jan 30 - Feb 1 at the Hynes Convention
Center in Boston, MA. The basic idea is you have 48 hours to create
something cool and don't suck! We have 3 categories:

1. General Tech and Web Services
2. Cameras and Wearables
3. Healthcare


We will be giving an investment prize away to the winners and running them
through a 12 week accelerator program to launch their idea into a startup.
We are also going to have technology classes. I am looking for people
willing to do any sort of programming or networking classes. These will be
more of beginner/into classes. If any of you are willing to come and help I
can promise good beer, good food and good times. Sorry we can not cover
travel or lodging.

Also if you know anyone that might want to come and take part give them the
discount code: *NANOG*

It will give them 50% off their ticket.


Check out our website: http://masshack.com

Hope to see some of you there.


P.S. We are still looking for sponsors and exhibitors :)


-James

Re: Trivium

[james jones]

I have got my local bookmarks. :D


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Without Google, how do you know where anything even *is*?

 -Blake


 On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Larry Sheldon larryshel...@cox.net
 wrote:

  http://news.cnet.com/8301-**1023_3-57598978-93/google-**
  outage-reportedly-caused-big-**drop-in-global-traffic/
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57598978-93/google-outage-reportedly-caused-big-drop-in-global-traffic/
 
 
 
  How big is the Internet?
 
  Depends in whether Google is up or not?
 
  --
  Requiescas in pace o email   Two identifying characteristics
  of System Administrators:
  Ex turpi causa non oritur actio  Infallibility, and the ability to
  learn from their mistakes.
(Adapted from Stephen Pinker)
 
 

Exchange Point

[james jones]

Greetings,

Does anyone see value in putting a open exchange point in one federal in
Springfield, MA?


-James

Re: Suggestions for managed DNS provider?

[james jones]

+1 on Dyn

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Raj Jalan r...@rajlog.com wrote:

 http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com
 Cost effective. We use it for some level of failover and load sharing as
 well.

 -Raj Jalan
 @rjalan2 http://twitter.com/rjalan2

 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:58 PM, David Hubbard 
 dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote:

  Hi all, anyone have suggestions for very stable/reliable managed DNS?
  Neustar/UltraDNS is an obvious option to look at, just curious about
  alternatives.  Cost effective would be nice, but stable under attack is
  better.
 
  Thanks,
 
  David
 
 

Re: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?

[james jones]

ugh!

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 6:04 AM, JP Viljoen froztb...@froztbyte.net wrote:

 On 06 Feb 2013, at 11:58 AM, Ray Wong r...@rayw.net wrote:
  Does anyone have details on tonight's apparent worldwide emergency
  router upgrade? All I managed to get out of the portal was 30 minutes,
  Service Affecting (no kidding?) and the NOC line gave me the
  recording about it and disconnected me.

 Nothing confirmed from my side, but the general guess I saw was that it
 was Juniper-related.

 -J

Re: De-funding the ITU

[james jones]

On Saturday, January 12, 2013, james jones wrote:

 And done!

 On Saturday, January 12, 2013, Bill Woodcock wrote:


 Please consider signing this petition:

 http://DeFundTheITU.org

 …so we can stop paying for both sides of this idiotic fight.  Note that
 if the U.S. pulls its funding from the ITU, that's 10%, and if all of the
 countries that stood with us at the WCIT do so, that would be 74% of the
 ITU's member revenue.  Those of us who support the Internet are paying for
 three-quarters of the fight against the Internet.  As Smokey the Bear would
 say, only WE can prevent stupidity.  As Pogo Possum said, We have met the
 enemy, and the enemy is us!  Time to correct that.  Redirect $11M/year
 from the ITU to Internet governance organizations like the IETF.

 -Bill

Re: juniper vpn

[james jones]

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:

 Do you want one for IPSEC or for the SSL VPN Appliance that Juniper is
 pushing nowadays?

 Owen

 On Nov 27, 2012, at 18:25 , Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote:

  Hello,
 
  Does anyone know a practical and somewhat user friendly way of
 connecting to juniper vpn using linux?
 
  I have happily used http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/ a allow
 linux users to connect cisco vpn boxes where a crappy cisco vpn client
 would be needed otherwise, and it works very nicely. I was hoping there
 exists a similar tool for juniper vpn.
 
  Thank you,
  Jeroen
 
  --
  Earthquake Magnitude: 4.0
  Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 00:20:46 UTC
  Location: Dominican Republic region
  Latitude: 19.3090; Longitude: -68.8393
  Depth: 139.00 km




If you are using the SSL VPN and you should just be able login via the web
site. It does require the Suneerrr Oracle JRE plugin.

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

[james jones]

Are we still talking about this? I setup a lan at home once at that used
6/8 :)

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:10 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
 And someone should further alert him that they do not own these
 addresses.
 
  MIT is probably using less of their /8 than MOD is, and as far as I
  know, MIT has neither commando forces nor nuclear weapons.
 
  You might want to pick, so to speak, your battles more carefully.

 more over, who cares? a /8 is less than 2 months rundown globally...
 and, once upon a time I constructed on this list a usecase for apple's
 /8 ... it's really not THAT hard to use a /8, it's well within the
 capabilities of a gov't to do so... especially given they PROBABLY
 have:
   o unclassified networks
   o secret networks
   o top secret networks
   o other networks

 I'm sure there's plenty of ways they could use the space in question.

Re:

[james jones]

I have days like that too!


On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote:

 Isn't that by Engelbert Humperdinck?

 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:14 AM, flower tailor samba...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  Delete me
 
 


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Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch?

[james jones]

On the surface this makes me want to cry.  I could be missing something as
well.

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Will Orton w...@loopfree.net wrote:

 We've run into an issue with a customer that has been confounding us for a
 few
 months as we try to design what they need.

 The customer has a location in the relative middle of nowhere that they are
 trying to build a protected OC3 to. Ultimately, their traffic on it will be
 packet data (IP/ethernet, not channelized/voice). But they seem to be
 absolutely 100% set on the idea that they build with Cisco ONS boxes and
 that
 they run and control the D1-D12 bytes in order to manage protection
 switching
 on the OC3 (and have their DCC channel for management).

 Since this is the middle of nowhere, we are having to piece it together
 from a
 few runs of dark fiber here and there and lit services from about 3 other
 providers to get from the desired point A to the desired point B. The
 issues
 we seem to be hitting are:

 -We seem to be unable to find anyone who sells lit OC3 with D1-D12
 transparency for the client. Sometimes we can get D1-D3, but that's it.

 -lit OC3/12/48 is ridiculously expensive comapred to 1g ethernet waves or
 10g
 waves (choice LAN/WAN ethernet or OC192)

 10g waves are cheap enough that we have entertained the idea of buying
 them and
 putting OC-192/muxponders on the ends to provide the OC-3, but even then
 I'm
 having trouble finding boxes that will do D1-D12 transparency for client
 OC-3.
 Building the whole thing on dark fiber so that we could specify the exact
 equipment on every hop isn't going to happen, as the protect path is
 about
 1000 miles and the geography is such that we don't really have a market
 for all
 the other wasted capacity there would be on that path.

 Having much more experience with ethernet/packet/MPLS setups, we are
 trying to
 get the client to admit that 1g/10g waves running ethernet with QoS would
 be as
 good as or better in terms of latency, jitter, and loss for their packet
 data.
 So far they will barely listen to the arguments. And then going the next
 leap
 and showing them that we could work towards 50ms protection switching with
 MPLS/BFD/etc packet-based protocols is another stretch.


 Am I missing something here that my customer isn't, or is it the other way
 around?

 -Will

Re: IPv6 Lo. for 6PE/6VPE

[james jones]

@Daniel +1

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Daniel Roesen d...@cluenet.de wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:56:05AM +0200, mohamed Osama Saad Abo sree
 wrote:
  I was just wondering , while I'm planning my network to support 6PE/6VPE
  why should i assign an IPv6 for Loopbacks?
 
  Maybe it's needed for Point-Point links or external interfaces between my
  peers, but anyone here know why i should assign IPv6 for all my Routers
  inside my ISP if we will run PE/6VPE not dual stack.

 Otherwise the intermediate P devices do not have an address to source
 ICMPv6 hop count exceeded error replies = traceroute doesn't work
 properly.

 Best regards,
 Daniel

 --
 CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: d...@cluenet.de -- dr@IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0

Re: Quad-A records in Network Solutions ?

[james jones]

Not to sound like I am trolling here, but how hard is it get VPS servers or
some EC2 servers and setup your own DNS servers. Are there use cases where
that is not practical?

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Tony Patti t...@swalter.com wrote:

 No, not $50, NetSol charges me in the range of $9.75 to $9.99 per year per
 domain name.

 Not defending NetSol, just clarity for the purposes of the archives.

 Who knows, maybe I get those rates because I mention their competitor
 GoDaddy   :-)

 Tony Patti
 CIO
 S. Walter Packaging Corp.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Gallagher [mailto:m...@txih.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:19 PM
 To: Joseph Snyder
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Arturo Servin
 Subject: Re: Quad-A records in Network Solutions ?

 Doesn't netsol charge something crazy like $50/year per for domain
 services?
 If that is still the case sounds like ipv6 support for 250k is a drop in
 the
 bucket :-). Not sure why any clueful DNS admin would still use netsol
 though.

 On Mar 28, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Joseph Snyder joseph.sny...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I agree, but in a big company it generally would cost at least 10s of
 thousands of dollars just for training alone. The time away from the phones
 that would have to be covered would exceed that. Let's say you had 8000
 phone staff and they were getting $10/be and training took an hour. That is
 80k coverage expenses alone. For a large company I would expect a project
 budget of at least 250k minimal. And probably more if the company exceeds
 50,000 employees.
 
  Arturo Servin arturo.ser...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Another reason to not use them.
 
 Seriusly, if they cannot expend some thousands of dollars (because it
 shouldn't be more than that) in touching code, (hopefully) testing that
 code, deploying it, training customer support staff to answer questions,
 updating documentation, etc. I cannot take them as a serious provider for
 my names..
 
  Regards,
  .as
 
  On 28 Mar 2012, at 21:16, John T. Yocum wrote:
 
 
 
  On 3/28/2012 12:13 PM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
  I'm not convinced. What you mention is real, but the code they need
  is little more than a regular expression that can be found on Google
  and a 20-line script for testing lames. And a couple of weeks of
  testing, and I think I'm exaggerating.
 
  If they don't want to offer support for it, they can just put up
  some disclaimer.
 
  regards,
 
  Carlos
 
 
  On 3/28/12 3:55 PM, David Conrad wrote:
  On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
  I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but, c'mon. For a
  provisioning system, an  record is just a fragging string,
  just like any other DNS record. How difficult to support can it be ?
 
  Of course it is more than a string. It requires touching code,
 (hopefully) testing that code, deploying it, training customer support
 staff
 to answer questions, updating documentation, etc. Presumably Netsol did the
 cost/benefit analysis and decided the potential increase in revenue
 generated by the vast hordes of people demanding IPv6 (or the potential
 lost
 in revenue as the vast hordes transfer away) didn't justify the expense.
 Simple business decision.
 
  Regards,
  -drc
 
 
 
 
  That's assuming their system is sanely or logically designed. It could
 be
 a total disaster of code, which makes adding such a feature a major pain.
 
  --John
 
 

Re: FW: Force10 E Series at the edge?

[james jones]

Have you look at Juniper's MX stuff.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Roberts, Brent 
brent.robe...@progressive-solutions.com wrote:

 Is anyone running an E300 Series Chassis at the internet edge with
 multiple Full BGP feeds? 95th percent would be about 300 meg of traffic.
 BGP session count would be between 2 and 4 Peers.
 6k internal Prefix count as it stands right now. Alternative are welcome.
 Thought about the ASR1006 but I need some local switching as well.

 Full requirements include
 Full internet Peering over GigE Links.
 Fully Redundant Power
 Redundant Supervisor/Route Processor
 Would prefer a Small Chassis unit. (under 10u)
 Would also prefer a single unit as opposed to a two smaller units.


 

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Re: Network device command line interfaces

[James Jones]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote:

 One of the biggest benefits to a CLI is the ability to easily script tasks.
  In a Cisco environment I can roll out major changes to hundreds of
 switches in seconds, for example.

 A lot of network vendors have been trying to make network devices more
 simple and easier to use while the complexity of networking has gone up.
  Seems like the wrong direction to me.  If someone wants a managed switch,
 they probably intend to manage it.

 I think a big key to the success of Cisco (and Juniper, etc) has been that
 they get it in this respect.

 Even companies like Vyatta have invested time in a Web UI rather than
 expanding the core functionality offered (multicast routing support, for
 example), which doesn't seem like the best idea.

 On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Jonathon Exley 
 jonathon.ex...@kordia.co.nz wrote:

  Does anyone else despair at the CLIs produced by networking vendors?
  Real routers use a CLI that is command based, like IOS, TiMOS or Junos.
  These interfaces work well over low bandwidth connections (unlike web
  interfaces), can work with config backup systems like RANCID, have a
  (mostly) consistent structure and good show commands.
  However vendors of low cost routers/switches/muxes seem to take a stab in
  the dark and produce some really nasty stuff. I have a personal hate of
  text based menus and binary config backup files.
  Doe this p*** off anyone else? The business part of the company says
 This
  device is great! It's cheap and does everything. However the poor sap
 who
  is given the task to make it work has to wrestle with a badly designed
 user
  interface and illogical syntax.
  Maybe the vendors need some sort of best practices guide for what
  manageability features their kit needs to support to make them acceptable
  to the market. Does anyone know if there is anything along these lines?
 
 
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Well said. I write scripts all day long to perform automation on networking
equipment. A device needs to have a CLI, but if you have a GUI too make for
darn sure that I can access all features in either one.

Re: Network device command line interfaces

[James Jones]

Would love to a good open source TR69 interface.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote:

  If you've done a proper CLI, you can easily do a good REST API. If
 you've done that a good Web GUI is possible.

 This.

 I would love a good REST API for everything; I would almost be willing
 to give up the CLI for it (almost).

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Re: Posting for network engineers and operators...

[James Jones]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Henry Yen he...@aegisinfosys.com wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:21:23AM -0500, Brian Stengel wrote:
  Apologies if this is not appropriate for this list... but I'm looking to
  hire network engineers for our project and would like to hear what job
  boards are best for network engineering types to view.  I'm not a
  recruiter. We are looking for positions in Pennsylvania.  Dice?  Monster?
   Linked-in?

 Perhaps:
   List-Id: This list is for posting job openings in the
 realm of data and voice networking.
   List-Help: mailto:network-jobs-requ...@puck.nether.net?subject=help

 --
 Henry Yen   Aegis Information Systems,
 Inc.
 Senior Systems Programmer   Hicksville, New York



+1 (I'm the moderator)

Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

[James Jones]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:43 AM, lorddoskias lorddosk...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/22/2011 3:38 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:

 Hi

 Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?

 They are reliable and have  good support provided

 We would like to get one for testing.

 Thank you



 http://www.vyatta.com/ might be worth checking.


If you are not afraid of the command line check xorp it is what vyatta is
based on.

TR-69 and linux

[James Jones]

Does anyone know of a open TR-69 implementation for linux? Also to take it
one step further, does anyone of one that works in tandem with a web gui
like openwrt?

Re: Steve Jobs has died

[James Jones]

Steve Jobs passing is very sad and has affected me more than I thought it
would. He was and still will be in many regards the gold standard on which
innovators in the world of technology will be measured. He has had an effect
on many aspects of the world we live in today. You can see the ripple
effects of what two guys and some ICs in a garage did so long ago. You can
see his influence not only in the technology we use today but
in corporate culture, media, art and social interaction.

  He was a man of passion and conviction. That is why he succeeded. He
was unyielding to what he thought was the right way to do something. This
may have cause many to think that he was a Jerk or Hard to work with,
but it was those passions for doing it right that made him and Apple a
success.

  I am not trying to say that it was all swings and roundabouts, but if you
were watching you could see that as Steve grew up so did Apple. In the end I
think he got mostly right.

  Apple please keep Steve's legacy going. Still keep innovating and don't
be afraid to take chances.

   I wish the best for Steve's family. Steve you will be missed. God's
speed.


On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Tayeb Meftah tayeb.mef...@gmail.com wrote:

 If no Steve à blind man can not use iPhone


 Envoyé de mon iPhone

 Le 6 oct. 2011 à 03:33, Aaron C. de Bruyn aa...@heyaaron.com a écrit :

  I remember the first 'real' program I wrote waay back in 1985 on an
  Apple IIe. It was a very simple reminder program that would show me my
  todo list for the day.
 
  Wonder if they'll be holding an iPhone-camera-flash-bulb vigil outside
  the Apple stores.  ;)
 
  -A
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 17:42, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sad day for all.  He will be missed
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:a...@corp.nac.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:15 PM
  To: 'NANOG list'
  Subject: Steve Jobs has died
 
  Not entirely on-list-topic, but still relevant.
 
 
 
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20116336-37/apple-co-founder-chairman-stev
  e-jobs-dies/?tag=cnetRiver
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: ouch..

[James Jones]

Funny they forget to mention that Cisco doesn't have 100g any where.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 14, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote:

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Always Learning [mailto:na...@u61.u22.net]
 Sent: 14 September 2011 14:39
 To: N. Max Pierson
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: ouch..
 
 
 On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 08:33 -0500, N. Max Pierson wrote:
 
 Either way, it's pathetic. If someone is going to slander in the
 fashion the site has done, they should at least put a contact form
 somewhere for some feedback :)
 
 Slander means falsehood. Cisco tells lies ?
 
 
 --
 With best regards,
 
 Paul.
 England,
 EU.
 
 
 Lies? So who has 100G MX series cards then..?
 
 --
 Leigh
 
 
 
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Re: ouch..

[James Jones]

I stand corrected. I willing to admit when I am wrong. So do that only have 
100Gb on the carrier routers?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Paul  p...@paulgraydon.co.uk wrote:

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5763/CRS-1x100GE_DS.html 
 ? 
 
 James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote:
 
 Funny they forget to mention that Cisco doesn't have 100g any where.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 14, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Always Learning [mailto:na...@u61.u22.net]
 Sent: 14 September 2011 14:39
 To: N. Max Pierson
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: ouch..
 
 
 On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 08:33 -0500, N. Max Pierson wrote:
 
 Either way, it's pathetic. If someone is going to slander in the
 fashion the site has done, they should at least put a contact form
 somewhere for some feedback :)
 
 Slander means falsehood. Cisco tells lies ?
 
 
 --
 With best regards,
 
 Paul.
 England,
 EU.
 
 
 Lies? So who has 100G MX series cards then..?
 
 --
 Leigh
 
 
 
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Re: ouch..

[James Jones]

On 9/14/11 2:46 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote:

In a message written on Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 09:24:25AM +1200, Don Gould wrote:

How many of you have sat and thought about the merit of this web site?

Ok, I'll take a swing at your list...


* Does Juniper break promises?

Yes.


* Does Cisco break them?

Yes.


* What bad things and experiences have you had with Cisco, Juniper?

It might take me several days, and many pages to compile that list.


* What is the best technology for each company?

Cisco: The AGS+ was ahead of its time.
Jiniper: The Olive is quite nifty.


* Did you know that Cisco has a 100Gb solution?

Yes, but I can't afford it.

Now, with that out of the way, how much does everyone else hate even the
thought of NAT444?

:) :) :)



Just the thought of NAT444 makes my stomach turn.

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

[James Jones]

I would not say ISIS is the prefered protocol. Most service providers I have 
worked with use OSPF. Most networks outside of the US use it from what I have 
seen and the larger SPs in the US do too. There must be a reason for that.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2011, at 8:23 AM, CJ cjinfant...@gmail.com wrote:

 You guys are making a lot of good points.
 
 I will check into the Doyle book to formulate an opinion. So, I am
 completely new to the SP environment and OSPF is what I have learned because
 I have ever only had experience in the enterprise.
 
 It seems that from this discussion, IS-IS is still a real, very viable
 option. So, IS-IS being preferred...realistically, what is the learning
 curve?
 
 
 CJ
 
 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:57 AM, jim deleskie deles...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If a network is big enough big / complex enough that you really need
 to worry about performance of mesh groups or tweaking areas then its
 big enough that having a noc eng page you out at 2am when there is an
 issue doesn't really scale.  I'm all for ISIS, if I was to build a
 network from scratch I'd likely default to it.  I'm just say, new
 features or performance aside the knowledge of your team under you
 will have much more impact on how your network runs then probably any
 other factor.  I've seen this time and time again when 'new tech' has
 been introduced into networks, from vendors to protocols.  Most every
 time with engineers saying we have smart people they will learn it /
 adjust.  Almost every case of that turned into 6 mts of crap for both
 ops and eng while the ops guys became clueful in the new tech, but as
 a friend frequently says Your network, your choice.
 
 -jim
 
 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jeffrey S. Young yo...@jsyoung.net
 wrote:
 
 
 On 12/08/2011, at 12:08 AM, CJ cjinfant...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Awesome, I was thinking the same thing. Most experience is OSPF so it
 only
 makes sense.
 
 That is a good tip about OSPFv3 too. I will have to look more deeply
 into
 OSPFv3.
 
 Thanks,
 
 -CJ
 
 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:34 AM, jim deleskie deles...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Having run both on some good sized networks, I can tell you to run
 what your ops folks know best.  We can debate all day the technical
 merits of one v another, but end of day, it always comes down to your
 most jr ops eng having to make a change at 2 am, you need to design
 for this case, if your using OSPF today and they know OSPF I'd say
 stick with it to reduce the chance of things blowing up at 2am when
 someone tries to 'fix' something else.
 
 -jim
 
 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:29 AM, William Cooper wcoope...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I'm totally in concurrence with Stephan's point.
 
 Couple of things to consider: a) deciding to migrate to either ISIS or
 OSPFv3 from another protocol is still migrating to a new protocol
 and b) even in the case of migrating to OSPFv3, there are fairly
 significant changes in behavior from OSPFv2 to be aware of (most
 notably
 authentication, but that's fodder for another conversation).
 
 -Tony
 
 This topic is a 'once a month' on NANOG, I'm sure we could check
 the archives for some point-in-time research but  I'm curious to learn
 if anyone maintains statistics?
 
 It would be interesting to see statistics on how many service providers
 run
 either protocol.  IS-IS has, for some years, been the de facto choice for
 SP's
 and as a result the vendor and standardisation community 'used to'
 develop
 SP features more often for IS-IS.  IS-IS was, therefore, more 'mature'
 than OSPF
 for SP's.  I wonder if this is still the case?
 
 For me, designing an IGP with IS-IS is much easier than it is with OSPF.
 Mesh groups are far easier to plan (more straightforward) easier to
 change
 than OSPF areas.  As for junior noc staff touching much of anything to do
 with an ISP's IGP at 2am, wake me up instead.
 
 jy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 CJ
 
 http://convergingontheedge.com http://www.convergingontheedge.com

Network Simulators

[James Jones]

Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support 
IPv6? I want play around with some IPv6 setup.


--
James Jones
+1-413-667-9199
ja...@freedomnet.co.nz

Re: Network Simulators

[James Jones]

So far GNS3 has won out so far. It seems to work on my Mac fairly well. 
trying it out now.


On 17/01/11 9:37 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:

I am currently researching virtual simulation environments for the
Networking courses that I teach. I am now interested in user-mode
linux emulators as they provide more real environments.

The one that I am liking the most right now is this one:
http://wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Main_Page

regards

Carlos

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Arturo Servinarturo.ser...@gmail.com  wrote:

GNS3
http://www.gns3.net/

This is another network simulator, mainly for academic research.

NS-2
http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/

And you can always setup some virtual machines with DNSs, hosts and 
routers with open-source software.

regards,
-as

On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:58, James Jones wrote:


Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support IPv6? I 
want play around with some IPv6 setup.

--
James Jones
+1-413-667-9199
ja...@freedomnet.co.nz

Re: wikileaks unreachable

[James Jones]

Remember not everyone who is on this list is a network operator  and sometimes 
their misguided statements make it here. Do  not get me wrong I wish wikileaks 
would disappear, but there are better ways to do this than interfering with 
other peoples networks. I would hope  the moderators are willing to take the 
correction action when addressing such matters.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:

 On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Andrew Kirch wrote:
 On 11/28/2010 4:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
 anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable?  nations
 state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has
 left?
 
 Good riddance.  The sooner someone gives Julian Assange 230gr of shut
 the f*** up, the better.
 
 I find it distressing when Network Operators are willing to encourage 
 DDoS'ing of a site.  Any site.  Especially on an operational list, where 
 politics are specifically prohibited.
 
 You don't like Wikileaks, that's between you  Julian.  A DDoS affects the 
 infrastructure of multiple networks, users, other websites, etc., etc.  Most 
 people who read the last sentence thought to themselves that is beyond 
 obvious.  It is a shame you do not understand it.
 
 Put another way, perhaps you should take your own 230gr.
 
 -- 
 TTFN,
 patrick
 
 

Re: wikileaks unreachable

[James Jones]

ROFL

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 28, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Ken Chase k...@sizone.org wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:18:18PM -0500, Andrew Kirch said:
 
 Lets be clear here, I'm not encouraging DDoS, I'm enjoying the
 possibility that someone will hopefully put a jacketed hollowpoint in
 Assange.
 
 Andrew
 
 This is always the best way to deal with disagreement.
 
 But I think this is the wrong list to tender such contracts. Also, it's odd 
 you
 hate DDOS's more than murder. Time to take some time off work perhaps?
 
 For the first time I'm hoping to not meet some of the nanog members in person
 at a Nanog conference should I ever attend
 
 /kc
 -- 
 Ken Chase - k...@heavycomputing.ca - +1 416 897 6284 - Toronto CANADA
 Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151 
 Front St. W.
 

Re: Cogent issues

[James Jones]

Verizon had huge fiber break on Friday. It effect a large portion of the north 
east. It would imagine there would left over issues

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:09 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:

 We've been noticing high latency for some time with Verizon (UUNET) 
 connections at least through the NY area.
 
 
 On 09/08/2010 10:34 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
 Anyone notice any issues with Cogent?
 
 Internet Health Report showing some high latency to Verizon and a couple of
 other carriers.
   
 
 

verizon outage

[James Jones]

 anyone experiencing issues with verizon in western mass?

--
James Jones
+1-413-667-9199
ja...@freedomnet.co.nz

Re: verizon outage

[James Jones]

 Found out its related to the outage in NJ


On 3/09/10 1:12 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:51 PM, James Jonesja...@freedomnet.co.nz  wrote:

  anyone experiencing issues with verizon in western mass?

o  this isn't the outages list, that one MAY have more info for you
o  there are many verizons... which one are you talking about?
(wireless, dsl/fios, fUUNET, private-line services, private-network
services...)

-Chris

Re: Other NOGs around the world?

[James Jones]

I am a member of NZNOG (New Zealand) as well. Moved back to the states last 
year.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 22, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Matthew Palmer mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:42:03AM +1000, Karl Auer wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:17 -0400, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
 On Aug 22, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Rogelio wrote:
 What other network operator groups are there around the world (besides 
 NANOG)?
 
 AusNOG. At a bit of a low S:N right now.
 
 We have been leading up to a Federal election, with two big tech issues
 involved - a new national broadband network and Internet censorship.
 These two topics have rather dominated discussions of late.
 
 Politics on an operational list?  NEVAH!
 
 - Matt
 

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

[James Jones]

look like like they are trying to squeeze both ends.

http://www.crn.com/networking/225700593;jsessionid=IR3YB1SGLW2BHQE1GHPSKH4ATMY32JVN



On 18/07/10 1:25 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote:

On 6/18/2010 00:16, Tom Wright wrote:
   

What ever happened to this?

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3271.txt
 

Every thing in that RFC from enabling freedom of speech to high volumes
of untaxed dollars is anathema to the current administration.

And yeah, that is politics and not BGP fine tuning.

But if we don't take an interest in what they are doing, BGP isn't going
to matter much.

So, yes, this is a call to look at the layer 10 stuff a bit.

If it isn't already too late.

I've said my piece, moderators.  Stand down.

   

Mikrotik RouterOS

[James Jones]

I am currently looking at using RouterOS as a way to build a Metro
Ethernet solution. Does anyone have experience with the device and the
OS? How is the performance? Are there any Gotchas?


-James

Re: Mikrotik RouterOS

[James Jones]

kind ofrouterOS supports MPLS, linux does not


On 4/12/10 3:48 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote:

On 12-4-2010 21:44, Gustavo Santos wrote:

its was an old bug, that had been fixed for a while..


You should still keep in mind Mikrotik is just Linux, with all its 
(dis)advantages, plus some scripts and weird CLI.

Re: Network Naming Conventions

[James Jones]

It was a small network.

On 3/13/10 2:58 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters.
 

scaled well?
   

Re: Network Naming Conventions

[James Jones]

On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters.


On 3/13/10 10:47 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:

Hi Folks...



With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a
good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks.



Today, we use the following example:



Core1-rtr-to-ge1-1-1-vl20.nexicom.net



Core box #1, rtr=router, to=location, ge1-1-1=interface, vl20=vlan etc
etc



Going forward, I'd like to examine a better method to identify the
devices does anyone have published standards on what they use or
that of other networks and maybe even why they chose those methods?  The
core of the network is fairly easy for us to look at different changes
where you have interfaces, subinterfaces, locations etc. to deal with.



But what do folks do for aggregation devices such as dial-up shelves,
BAS devices etc?



Finally, we have a fair amount of gear (that we own) at customer
premises that act as either a managed device or a demarcation point 
how to you name those today?



Open ended questions obviously - looking for many ideas.



;)



Paul










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MPLS VLAN service

[James Jones]

I am looking for MPLS L2 VPN that will let give a ethernet port in 
springfield, MA @ one federal TO Wellington, NZ @ ATT House. Can anyone 
here do this? Also can you provide me with some ball park pricing. 
Please reply off list.


--
James Jones
+1-413-667-9199
ja...@freedomnet.co.nz

NANOG job board

[James Jones]

Is there a NANOG supported/endorsed/recommended job board/list ? I am 
sorry if this a bit offtopic.

Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)

[James Jones]

The Massachusetts Broadband Institute is currently working a middle mile 
solution to help with some of the issues in western ma. Thing do sound 
promising.



On 2/26/10 4:34 PM, Michael Sokolov wrote:

Daniel Senied...@senie.com  wrote:

   

Better than western Massachusetts, where there's just no connectivity at =
all. Even dialup fails to function over crappy lines.
 

Hmm.  Although I've never been to Western MA and hence have no idea what
the telecom situation is like over there, I'm certainly aware of quite a
few places in first world USA where DSL is still a fantasy, let alone
fiber.

As a local example, I have a friend in a rural area of Southern
California who can't get any kind of high-speed Internet.  I've run a
prequal on her address and it tells me she is 31 kft from the CO.  The
CO in question has a Covad DSLAM in it, but at 31 kft those rural
residents' options are limited to either IDSL at 144 kbps (not much
point in that) or a T1 starting at ~$700/month.  The latter figure is
typically well out of range for the kind of people who live in such
places.

That got me thinking: ISDN/IDSL and T1 can be extended infinitely far
into the boondocks because those signal formats support repeaters.  What
I'm wondering is how can we do the same thing with SDSL - and I mean
politically rather than technically.  The technical part is easy: some
COs already have CLECs in them that serve G.shdsl (I've been told that
NEN does that) and for G.shdsl repeaters are part of the standard
(searching around shows a few vendors making them); in the case of
SDSL/2B1Q (Covad and DSL.net) there is no official support for repeaters
and hence no major vendors making such, but I can build such a repeater
unofficially.

The difficulty is with the political part, and that's where I'm seeking
the wisdom of this list.  How would one go about sticking a mid-span
repeater into an ILEC-owned 31 kft rural loop?  From what I understand
(someone please correct me if I'm wrong!), when a CLEC orders a loop
from an ILEC, if it's for a T1 or IDSL, the CLEC actually orders a T1 or
ISDN BRI transport from the ILEC rather than a dry pair, and any
mid-span repeaters or HDSLx converters or the like become the
responsibility of the ILEC rather than the CLEC, right?

So how could one extend this model to provide, say, repeatered G.shdsl
service to far-outlying rural subscribers?  Is there some political
process (PUC/FCC/etc) by which an ILEC could be forced to allow a third
party to stick a repeater in the middle of their loop?  Or would it have
to work by way of the ILEC providing a G.shdsl transport service to
CLECs, with the ILEC being responsible for the selection, procurement
and deployment of repeater hardware?  And what if the ILEC is not
interested in providing such a service - any PUC/FCC/etc political
process via which they could be forced to cooperate?

Things get even more complicated in those locations where the CO has a
Covad DSLAM in it serving out SDSL/2B1Q, but no other CLEC serving
G.shdsl.  Even if the ILEC were to provide a G.shdsl transport service
with repeaters, it wouldn't help with SDSL/2B1Q.  My idea involves
building a gadget in the form factor of a standard mid-span repeater
that would function as a converter from SDSL/2B1Q to G.shdsl: if the
loop calls for one mid-span repeater, stick this gadget in as if it
were that repeater; if the loop calls for 2 or more repeaters, use my
gadget as the first repeater and then standard G.shdsl repeaters
after it.  But of course this idea is totally dependent on the ability
of a third party to stick these devices in the middle of long rural
loops, perhaps in the place of loading coils which are likely present
on such loops.

Any ideas?

MS

   

Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)

[James Jones]

I am in planning states for a new metro ethernet service here in the 
springfield area. that will slowly extend to the town as I can get there.


On 2/26/10 4:45 PM, Daniel Senie wrote:

 From what I've read, they may well get higher bandwidth out to the town 
centers on fiber. There has been little discussion of how to distribute from 
there. I suppose Verizon, the only company offering anything out there, will 
take advantage and use the fiber to improve speeds in the centers of towns. But 
there's no CATV in most of the hill towns, and unless MBI intends to stretch 
fiber out to the neighborhoods, I remain skeptical.

Today, most of the town halls have public access wifi, and people drive up and 
sit in their cars and get their email that way. This isn't a solution.


On Feb 26, 2010, at 4:40 PM, James Jones wrote:

   

The Massachusetts Broadband Institute is currently working a middle mile 
solution to help with some of the issues in western ma. Thing do sound 
promising.


On 2/26/10 4:34 PM, Michael Sokolov wrote:
 

Daniel Senied...@senie.com   wrote:


   

Better than western Massachusetts, where there's just no connectivity at =
all. Even dialup fails to function over crappy lines.

 

Hmm.  Although I've never been to Western MA and hence have no idea what
the telecom situation is like over there, I'm certainly aware of quite a
few places in first world USA where DSL is still a fantasy, let alone
fiber.

As a local example, I have a friend in a rural area of Southern
California who can't get any kind of high-speed Internet.  I've run a
prequal on her address and it tells me she is 31 kft from the CO.  The
CO in question has a Covad DSLAM in it, but at 31 kft those rural
residents' options are limited to either IDSL at 144 kbps (not much
point in that) or a T1 starting at ~$700/month.  The latter figure is
typically well out of range for the kind of people who live in such
places.

That got me thinking: ISDN/IDSL and T1 can be extended infinitely far
into the boondocks because those signal formats support repeaters.  What
I'm wondering is how can we do the same thing with SDSL - and I mean
politically rather than technically.  The technical part is easy: some
COs already have CLECs in them that serve G.shdsl (I've been told that
NEN does that) and for G.shdsl repeaters are part of the standard
(searching around shows a few vendors making them); in the case of
SDSL/2B1Q (Covad and DSL.net) there is no official support for repeaters
and hence no major vendors making such, but I can build such a repeater
unofficially.

The difficulty is with the political part, and that's where I'm seeking
the wisdom of this list.  How would one go about sticking a mid-span
repeater into an ILEC-owned 31 kft rural loop?  From what I understand
(someone please correct me if I'm wrong!), when a CLEC orders a loop
from an ILEC, if it's for a T1 or IDSL, the CLEC actually orders a T1 or
ISDN BRI transport from the ILEC rather than a dry pair, and any
mid-span repeaters or HDSLx converters or the like become the
responsibility of the ILEC rather than the CLEC, right?

So how could one extend this model to provide, say, repeatered G.shdsl
service to far-outlying rural subscribers?  Is there some political
process (PUC/FCC/etc) by which an ILEC could be forced to allow a third
party to stick a repeater in the middle of their loop?  Or would it have
to work by way of the ILEC providing a G.shdsl transport service to
CLECs, with the ILEC being responsible for the selection, procurement
and deployment of repeater hardware?  And what if the ILEC is not
interested in providing such a service - any PUC/FCC/etc political
process via which they could be forced to cooperate?

Things get even more complicated in those locations where the CO has a
Covad DSLAM in it serving out SDSL/2B1Q, but no other CLEC serving
G.shdsl.  Even if the ILEC were to provide a G.shdsl transport service
with repeaters, it wouldn't help with SDSL/2B1Q.  My idea involves
building a gadget in the form factor of a standard mid-span repeater
that would function as a converter from SDSL/2B1Q to G.shdsl: if the
loop calls for one mid-span repeater, stick this gadget in as if it
were that repeater; if the loop calls for 2 or more repeaters, use my
gadget as the first repeater and then standard G.shdsl repeaters
after it.  But of course this idea is totally dependent on the ability
of a third party to stick these devices in the middle of long rural
loops, perhaps in the place of loading coils which are likely present
on such loops.

Any ideas?

MS


   
   

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

[James Jones]

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Gadi Evron g...@linuxbox.org wrote:

 The email portability bill has just been approved by the Knesset's
 committee for legislation, sending it on its way for the full legislation
 process of the Israeli parliament.

 While many users own a free email account, many in Israel still make use of
 their ISP's email service.

 According to this proposed bill, when a client transfers to a different ISP
 the email address will optionally be his to take along, just like mobile
 providers do today with phone numbers.

 This new legislation makes little technological sense, and will certainly
 be a mess to handle operationally as well as beurocratically, but it
 certainly is interesting, and at least the notion is beautiful.

 The proposed bill can be found here [Doc, Hebrew]:
 http://my.ynet.co.il/pic/computers/22022010/mail.doc

 Linked to from this ynet (leading Israeli news site) story, here:
 http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3852744,00.html

 I will update this as things evolve on my blog, here:
 http://gadievron.blogspot.com/

Gadi.




Why does this seem like a really bad idea?


-james

Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee

[James Jones]

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Robert Brockway
rob...@timetraveller.orgwrote:


 IMHO it would have been better to require the ISPs to forward the email for
 a reasonable period of time (say 3 months) to allow the user to make
 relevant notifications (or just stop using an ISP bound email address).


To me that seems reasonable. but if they do what has been suggested how long
before the rest of world implements the same policy? Also wouldn't this help
put the final nails in email's coffin? Also what about ISPs choosing to stop
providing email services?

Re: Location of upstream connections BGP templates

[James Jones]

Ditto

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com  
wrote:





--- st...@ibctech.ca wrote:
From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca

layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved
out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for this is so that I

What do other providers do? Are your transit peers connected  
directly to
the core? I can understand such a setup for transit-only providers,  
but




Border, core, access.

Border routers only connect the core to the upstreams.  They do  
nothing else.  No acls, just prefix filters.  For example, block  
1918 space from leaving your network.  Block other bad stuff from  
leaving your network too.  Allow in only what you're expecting from  
the upstream; again 1918 space, etc.  They can fat finger like  
anyone else.


Core is for moving bits as efficiently as possible: no acls; no  
filters.


Connect downstream BGP customers to access routers that participate  
in the iBGP mesh.  Filter them only allowing what they're supposed  
to advertise.  They'll mess it up a lot if they're like my customers  
by announcing everything under the sun.  Filter what you're  
announcing to them.  You can fat finger just as well as anyone  
else.  ;-)


scott

dark fiber

[James Jones]

I am doing some researchis there a way to find out where there is 
dark fiber and who own's it?

Re: dark fiber

[James Jones]

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:



On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:08 PM, James Jones wrote:

I am doing some researchis there a way to find out where there  
is dark fiber and who own's it?


You may be better off asking nznog if it's local to you (or your  
email).


- Jared


It is no longer local to me. Other wise I would have asked them :)

NANOG newbie

[James Jones]

Greetings,

Hi, I have just recently returned to the United States from New 
Zealand. I have spent a bit of time down their working as a network 
designer for ALU and was a member of NZNOG. The infrastructure demands 
and designs are completely different here in U.S. I am currently working 
for a VoIP company in Springfield, MA. I was wondering if their might be 
someone in the area that might be able to help me get my bearings and 
might be able to give some insight into the BMI project in the area 
offlist? Thanks for your time.


--
James Jones
+1-413-667-9199
ja...@freedomnet.co.nz

Re: NANOG newbie

[James Jones]

Sorry I meant MBI project not BMI.

On 2/8/10 11:31 AM, James Jones wrote:

Greetings,

Hi, I have just recently returned to the United States from New 
Zealand. I have spent a bit of time down their working as a network 
designer for ALU and was a member of NZNOG. The infrastructure demands 
and designs are completely different here in U.S. I am currently 
working for a VoIP company in Springfield, MA. I was wondering if 
their might be someone in the area that might be able to help me get 
my bearings and might be able to give some insight into the BMI 
project in the area offlist? Thanks for your time.