The NIMS/ICS system works very well for issues like this.   I utilize ICS 
regularly in my Search and Rescue world, and the last two companies I worked 
for utilize(d) it extensively during outages.  It allows folks from various 
different disciplines, roles and backgrounds to come in, and provide a divide 
and conquer methodology to incidents and can be scaled up/scaled out as 
necessary.  Phrases like "Incident Commander" and such have been around for a 
few decades and are concepts used regularly by FEMA, CalFire and other natural 
disaster style incidents.  But those of you who may be EMComm folks probably 
already knew that ;-). 



this was pounded out on my iPhone and i have fat fingers plus  two left thumbs 
:)

We have to remember that what we observe is not nature herself, but nature 
exposed to our method of questioning.


> On Oct 5, 2021, at 10:11, jim deleskie <deles...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> World broke.  Crazy $$ per hour down time.  Doors open with a fire axe.  
> Glass breaks super easy too and much less expensive then adding 15 min to 
> failure.
> 
> -jim
> 
>> On Tue., Oct. 5, 2021, 7:05 p.m. Jeff Shultz, <jeffshu...@sctcweb.com> wrote:
>> 7. Make sure any access controlled rooms have physical keys that are 
>> available at need - and aren't secured by the same access control that they 
>> are to circumvent. . 
>> 8. Don't make your access control dependent on internet access - always have 
>> something on the local network  it can fall back to. 
>> 
>> That last thing, that apparently their access control failed, locking people 
>> out when either their outward facing DNS and/or BGP routes went goodbye, is 
>> perhaps the most astounding thing to me - making your access control into an 
>> IoT device without (apparently) a quick workaround for a failure in the "I" 
>> part.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 6:01 AM Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Jorge Amodio <jmamo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > How come such a large operation does not have an out of bound access in 
>>> > case of emergencies ???
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> I mentioned to someone yesterday that most OOB systems _are_ the internet.  
>>> It doesn’t always seem like you need things like modems or dial-backup, or 
>>> access to these services, except when you do it’s critical/essential.
>>> 
>>> A few reminders for people:
>>> 
>>> 1) Program your co-workers into your cell phone
>>> 2) Print out an emergency contact sheet
>>> 3) Have a backup conference bridge/system that you test
>>>   - if zoom/webex/ms are down, where do you go?  Slack?  Google meet? Audio 
>>> bridge?
>>>   - No judgement, but do test the system!
>>> 4) Know how to access the office and who is closest.  
>>>   - What happens if they are in the hospital, sick or on vacation?
>>> 5) Complacency is dangerous
>>>   - When the tools “just work” you never imagine the tools won’t work.  I’m 
>>> sure the lessons learned will be long internally.  
>>>   - I hope they share them externally so others can learn.
>>> 6) No really, test the backup process.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> * interlude *
>>> 
>>> Back at my time at 2914 - one reason we all had T1’s at home was largely so 
>>> we could get in to the network should something bad happen.  My home IP 
>>> space was in the router ACLs.  Much changed since those early days as this 
>>> network became more reliable.  We’ve seen large outages in the past 2 years 
>>> of platforms, carriers, etc.. (the Aug 30th 2020 issue is still firmly in 
>>> my memory).  
>>> 
>>> Plan for the outages and make sure you understand your playbook.  It may be 
>>> from snow day to all hands on deck.  Test it at least once, and ideally 
>>> with someone who will challenge a few assumptions (eg: that the cell 
>>> network will be up)
>>> 
>>> - Jared
>> 
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