Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information
I honestly wondered whether to wade in here, as I'm another person that seems to have drifted away from the NANOG community. But why have I drifted? Partly because I've only got so much T budget to go at, and sometimes I need to be somewhere else that isn't a NANOG meeting. NANOG has stopped being a "must attend" event for me, and become a "nice to do", probably once a year to catch up with some people, and only if I'm not too busy already. I've also not renewed my NANOG membership since it lapsed last year despite having previously been a member since NANOG memberships were first offered in 2011. One of the things that lost my continued membership was a recent election where a number of candidates ran as a slate. I felt it to be cringeworthy and unwarranted. When the opportunity to renew came, I chose not to give NANOG any more money because members of the incumbent Board had taken an action that had disappointed me. I strongly believe the NANOG community is best served by candidates elected based on their individual merit and their stated platform. Right now, the Board is all too easily perceived as an unassailable hegemony of powerful, successful individuals, who hold senior roles in their (successful) parent orgs, and that's regardless of the positive and community-spirited intentions they may have had when standing for election. It feels as though we need to wait for people to term-out and hope one of their powerful buddies isn't standing to continue the dynasty. Is that what the Board really wants? It seems not, but that's how it's ended up looking. There's also something of an "escalator" assumption about passage through committees and eventually becoming a Board member. While I don't doubt the experience of the other committees is useful, this "escalator" isn't necessarily a healthy path to Board membership. Back to the meetings themselves, I feel NANOG has become less of a welcoming meeting of technical peers and feels more like a trade fair, dominated by cliques, cabals, suites & private side rooms. The trade fair mentality likely attracted the undesirable trade fair antics that have been spoken of on this thread, perhaps unsurprisingly. Meanwhile, the governance seems to have become rather politicised and less representative of the community. That said, I'm pleased to see there's some recognition of the shortcomings and a desire to change the status quo. How that's done? Well that's a whole different question, but I think Dan made a few good points earlier in the thread. Maybe part of the solution is having some proportion of Board seats appointed by some sort of nominating process, while retaining the elections for others, to try and achieve a more balanced Board. Thanks, Mike
Re: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]
On 26 June 2013 04:10, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:37 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: I wonder how long it will take before anybody actually updates their config. I once pulled a stratum-2 out of the clocks.txt file - and was still seeing several hundred unique hosts per hour poking the IP address for time - like over a decade later. http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/netgear-sntp/ Would actually be interesting to get a brief update on how many of these SNTP requests the Madison NTP server still gets. At the time, Dave hypothesized that the affected devices would have a half-life of about 5 years - so 10 years on, you would expect this to have subsided to around 25% of the initially report rate. I wonder if that held true? Mike
UKNOF 24: Call for Presentations
UKNOF 24 Call For Presentations The next UKNOF meeting will take place on 17th January 2013 at Timico in Newark-on-Trent, Nottinghamshire, and the Programme Committee are seeking content from the community for this meeting. You may often hear it said that UKNOF's remit is distribution of clue, so if the content of your talk fits with that ethos, we're actually pretty open minded about what the actual topic is - as long as it's relevant to our community's broad area of interest, and the quality is good. Talks are usually around 20 to 40 minutes in length, and common subject areas are: Network operations Network architecture and design Networking hardware and software architecture Peering and interconnect Data centre design and operations IPv6 deployment Network monitoring and measurement New innovations in networking technology Open protocol standards Domain Name System infrastructure Network security and abuse prevention Impact of public policy of network operations But, we're always on the lookout for something different, so don't feel it has to fall into the areas above. We're also interested in hearing proposals for panel discussions, as these are a great way of presenting and discussing different views on the same subject. Please submit your proposals via our website at http://indico.uknof.org.uk/event/uknof24 Submissions are welcome at any time, but for UKNOF24 we would like to have them no later than 12th December 2012. However, don't worry if you miss the deadline and have something interesting to talk about, as we are often able to accept shorter (10 minute) lightning talks closer in to the meeting. Please also get in touch if you would like to suggest any topics, themes or speakers. Please note that UKNOF is run on a non-profit basis, and is not in a position to reimburse expenses or time for speakers at its meetings. Thanks, Mike
UKNOF 23 - Call for Presentations
Hi all, The next UKNOF meeting will take place on Thursday 11th October 2012 in London, and the Programme Committee are seeking content from the community for this meeting. You may often hear it said that UKNOF's remit is distribution of clue, so if the content of your talk fits with that ethos, we're actually pretty open minded about what the actual topic is - as long as it's relevant to our community's broad area of interest, and the quality is good. Talks are usually around 20 to 40 minutes in length, and common subject areas are: Network operations Network architecture and design Networking hardware and software architecture Peering and interconnect Data centre design and operations IPv6 deployment Network monitoring and measurement New innovations in networking technology Open protocol standards Domain Name System infrastructure Network security and abuse prevention Impact of public policy of network operations But, we're always on the lookout for something different, so don't feel it has to fall into the areas above. We're also interested in hearing proposals for panel discussions, as these are a great way of presenting and discussing different views on the same subject. Please send your proposals to submissi...@uknof.org.uk, including a short abstract of the subject, and draft slides if these are available. The closing date for submissions is the 30th June 2012, but don't worry if you miss the deadline and have something interesting to talk about, as we are often able to accept shorter (10 minute) lightning talks closer in to the meeting. Please also get in touch if you would like to suggest any topics, themes or speakers. Please note that UKNOF is free to attend, thanks to the generosity of our sponsors, and run on a non-profit (cost-recovery) basis, so is therefore unable to reimburse speakers' expenses. Thanks, Mike
UKNOF 22 Call for Presentations
UKNOF 22 - Call For Presentations The next UKNOF meeting will take place on Thursday 3rd May 2012 in the City of York, hosted by Bytemark, and the Programme Committee are seeking content from the community for this meeting. You may often hear it said that UKNOF's remit is distribution of clue, so if the content of your talk fits with that ethos, we're actually pretty open minded about what the actual topic is - as long as it's relevant to our community's broad area of interest, and the quality is good. Talks are usually around 20 to 40 minutes in length, and common subject areas are: * Network operations * Network architecture and design * Networking hardware and software architecture * Peering and interconnect * Data centre design and operations * IPv6 deployment * Network monitoring and measurement * New innovations in networking technology * Open protocol standards * Domain Name System infrastructure * Network security and abuse prevention * Impact of public policy of network operations We are also looking for material relevant to the following topics for York: * Future Networking Technologies (e.g. 4G/LTE) * Open Networking Technologies But, we're always on the lookout for something different, so don't feel it has to fall into the areas above. We're also interested in hearing proposals for panel discussions, as these are a great way of presenting and discussing different views on the same subject. Please send your proposals to submissi...@uknof.org.uk, including a short abstract of the subject, and draft slides if these are available. The closing date for submissions is the 5th April 2012, but don't worry if you miss the deadline and have something interesting to talk about, as we are often able to accept shorter (10 minute) lightning talks closer in to the meeting. Please also get in touch if you would like to suggest any topics, themes or speakers. Hope to see you in May at the UKNOF meeting. Mike Hughes on behalf of the UKNOF Programme Committee
Re: [Nanog-futures] Bhutan discovers the NANOG Problem...
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, vijay gill wrote: In short, instead of coercive action, how about the presenters learn to be more relevant, interesting, or fun. I'll second that, and the whole pressure-release valve theory, Vijay, and therefore (even if this isn't a vote) this is a no to shutting off connectivity during NANOG sessions. People with their laptop open aren't the problem. What needs to be tackled are the people who: a) don't put phones and other electronica on silent while in the session. b) answer the phone while in the main room and start a conversation. c) make an outgoing phonecall and have a phone conversation while sat in the room. d) stand at the back, rather than in the hallway, having a conversation. All of the above show a lack of respect for the speaker, and a lack of consideration for those around you. There is now a screen relaying the video and audio feed into the hallway, precisely for dealing with type d offenders. Type a, b and c offenders need to go and learn some manners, which I know are a dying breed. Mike ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
