RE: MLFR Differential Delay Problems

2010-02-19 Thread Pender, James
The differential delay is most likely caused by the T1's in the MFR bundle 
riding physically diverse paths across the TDM network. The carrier would need 
to validate their CLR/DLR to see what paths/DS3's the individual T1's follow to 
verify they are on the same circuit. Unfortunately there are those that try and 
sell MFR as redundancy and have the T1's ride diverse paths that can 
sometimes be pretty huge in difference of loop distance etc.., when they should 
really just be selling MFR for the bandwidth. 

- Jim P. 

-Original Message-
From: R. Benjamin Kessler [mailto:r...@mnsginc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:55 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: MLFR Differential Delay Problems

Hello NANOGers - 

 

I'm working on a project to migrate a customer from one Tier 1
provider to another at 50+ locations (all domestic US sites).  Most of
these connections are 4xT1 multi-link bundles.

 

The old router configuration was MLPPP which was rock-solid for 3 years
(save for the typical last-mile circuit issues, fiber-cuts, etc.).
The new carrier uses FRF.16 multi-link Frame Relay vs. MLPPP.

 

We've completed the migration on 10+ sites and all of them are now
reporting errors like the following:

 

Feb 17 21:01:39   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-1/0/0
differential 91.7 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:50   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-1/0/0
differential 115.9 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:50   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-1/0/1
differential 79.0 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:50   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-2/0/1
differential 79.1 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:50   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-1/0/1
differential 97.4 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:50   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-2/0/0
differential 97.5 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:50   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-2/0/1
differential 97.5 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:52   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-1/0/1
differential 97.4 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:52   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-2/0/0
differential 97.5 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:52   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-2/0/1
differential 97.5 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:53   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-1/0/1
differential 90.0 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

Feb 17 21:01:53   /kernel: MFR bundle ls-0/0/0:0 link t1-2/0/1
differential 100.0 ms over yellow differential delay 75 ms

 

The customer routers are all Juniper J6350; I believe the Carrier's
routers are all Cisco GSRs.

 

Advanced JTAC says that our configurations are solid and that there are
no known bugs that would exhibit behavior like this.  The carrier is
insisting on performing physical-level tests of the circuits (even
though they're running error free) before they'll engage higher-level
engineers so I'm currently in a holding pattern awaiting those results.

 

My Google-foo is failing me and I'm not able to find any documents that
help explain what may be causing this and how to troubleshoot and find
an eventual solution.

 

I would really appreciate any tips or suggestions from anyone on the
list that may have seen issues like this in the past.

 

Thanks,

 

Ben

 

 




RE: Using 32 bit ASN numbers

2008-08-29 Thread Pender, James

These are the dates I have for Cisco platforms:

IOS XR 3.4 - September 2007 
IOS 12.0(32)S11 - November 2008 
IOS 12.2SRE - December 2008 
IOS 12.5(1)T - April 2009  

-Original Message-
From: andy lam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brian Raaen
Subject: Re: Using 32 bit ASN numbers

 
Cisco IOS XR Software Release 3.4.0 adds support for BGP Authentication Key 
Chaining, BGP 4-Byte Autonomous System Number (ASN), and BGP Next Hop tracking 
enhancements.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/iosxr_r3.4/general/release/notes/reln_34.html#wp239046
BGP 4-Byte ASN-Increases the range of supported autonomous systems from 2 bytes 
to 4 bytes to scale with expected Internet growth.
 
12.2SR* is supposed to be in late 2008, but has not yet been announced publicly.
 
 
Juniper it's in JUNOS 9.1 as farr as I can tell.


--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Brian Raaen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Brian Raaen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Using 32 bit ASN numbers
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:04 AM

I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers.  I am 
trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support.  In 
particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to 
load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's.  I also want to know what 
experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's

-- 
Brian Raaen
Network Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]