Re: Any Zayo peeps on the list?

[Ryan Gelobter]

I've found in the past that the Zayo escalation lists are very helpful in
getting something resolved. They may not answer but I've left messages
before and heard back from someone who can get stuff done.
https://tranzact.zayo.com/#!/escalation-lists

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:45 AM Deepak Jain  wrote:

> Seconded -
>
> We have an issue that may become operational very soon. All of our
> contacts at Zayo have left/retired/etc including C-level types.
>
> Off list is great.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Deepak
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Mike Lyon
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:56 AM
> To: NANOG list 
> Subject: Any Zayo peeps on the list?
>
> Howdy!
>
> Any Zayo peeps on the list? Seeing some packet loss on your network and
> your NCC seems to be clueless.
>
> Please shoot me an email offlist.
>
> Thank You,
> Mike
>

Re: Dallas Dark Fiber

[Ryan Gelobter]

+1 for ICFN (innercityfiber)

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:39 AM Ryan Gelobter <
rya...@andthenwegotpaycuts.com> wrote:

> +1 for ICFN (innercityfiber)
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM Steven Karp 
> wrote:
>
>> I have had good service with https://www.innercityfiber.net/ in Dallas.
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 2:35 PM, Ilissa Miller  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> FiberLight is a strong player in TX and has a number of new builds
>> throughout Dallas and beyond.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:26 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Zayo, Consolidated and Crown Castle are my go-tos. They have the biggest
>>> footprints in the DFW market.
>>>
>>> J~
>>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 14:20, Rod Beck 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I want to understand the Dallas dark fiber market. Who are the major
>>> players? Who has done recent builds (2010 onward)? Who has 864 strand
>>> cables for sale? Who has dense coverage with good manhole access to
>>> buildings and utility structures?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Roderick.
>>>
>>> Roderick Beck
>>> VP of Business Development
>>>
>>> United Cable Company
>>>
>>> www.unitedcablecompany.com
>>>
>>> New York City & Budapest
>>>
>>> rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com
>>>
>>> 36-70-605-5144
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 1467221477350_image005.png]
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> *Ilissa Miller*
>>
>> CEO, iMiller Public Relations
>>
>> President, NEDAS
>>
>> Founder, Independent Data Center Alliance
>>
>> Office:  (914) 315-6424
>>
>> Mobile: (917) 743-0931
>>
>> @iMillerPR | @ilissanyc
>>
>>
>>
>> iMiller Public Relations
>>
>> www.imillerpr.com
>>
>>
>> *NEDAS 2020 Sponsorships now available - ask me how you can get involved
>> educating and learning about the wireline and wireless convergence
>> underway.*
>>
>>

UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

[Ryan Gelobter]

Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear
console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3
countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking
to Opengear they don't really have any great advice. We use Verizon SIM
cards in the US with static IPs.

Thanks,
Ryan

Re: CenturyLink/Level3 feedback

[Ryan Gelobter]

I wish CenturyLink would better manage both the legacy level3 portal and
the current centurylink portal. The fact that I cant just go into 1 place
and see all of my circuits now is annoying.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:52 AM Cummings, Chris 
wrote:

> I was always taught that “if you can't say anything nice, don't say
> nothing at all”—That being said, my last CenturyLink turnup was worse than
> my last AT turnup. Take that for what it is worth.
>
>
>
> /chris
>

Whats going on at Cogent

[Ryan Gelobter]

Anyone else seen terrible support and high turnover of sales/account people
at Cogent the last few months? Is there something going on over there
internally? I'm sure some people will say Cogent has always been crap but
in the past their account reps and support were pretty good. It seems to
have gone downhill the last 12 months really bad.

Regards,
Ryan

Re: Cellular enabled console server

[Ryan Gelobter]

> +1  OpenGear all the time - just ensure you are patching/manageing them(!)

Why do you say that? I'd love some details before buying opengear.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 6:38 AM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > OpenGear all the way.  Models for every need.
>
> +1  OpenGear all the time - just ensure you are patching/manageing them(!)
>
> alan
>

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

[Ryan Gelobter]

But that is all done in the python script I imagine, it doesn't look like
theirs really much validation unless I'm missing something. Shouldn't be
too hard to figure out what its doing in the background after you run that
command.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Ryan, Spencer <sr...@arbor.net> wrote:

> It won't work. They require the hashed key that support/your AM has to
> generate for your org.
>
>
>
> * Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sr...@arbor.net
> *Arbor Networks*
> +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m)
> www.arbornetworks.com
>
> --
> *From:* NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Ryan Gelobter <
> rya...@atwgpc.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:58:36 AM
> *To:* Stanislaw
> *Cc:* nanog list
> *Subject:* Re: Arista unqualified SFP
>
> Instead of patching the python what happens if you just run 'no errdisable
> recovery cause xcvr-unsupported'
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:24 AM, Stanislaw <m...@nek0.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > If somebody is following my epic adventure of getting uqualified SFP to
> > work on Aristas, here is the unhappy end of it.
> >
> > I've written to Arista support and got the following dialogue:
> > Support guy:
> > Hi,
> > Thank you for contacting Arista Support. My name is  and I'll be
> > assisting you on this case.
> > Could you please provide the "show version" output from this switch?
> >
> > Me:
> > Hi,
> > Here it is:
> > 
> >
> > Support guy:
> > Hi,
> > Thank you for the information.
> > Unfortunately, we are unable to activate your 3rd party components. To
> > ensure ongoing quality, Arista devices are designed to support only
> > properly qualified transceivers.
> > Please let me know if you have any other questions.
> >
> > Me:
> > I do not understand,
> > But there is a command which allows using non-Arista transceivers. Why
> > have you implemented it but don't provide an access key to your customers
> > when they ask for it?
> > If it is required to sign some papers which declare that I am aware of
> all
> > the risks and losing my warranty - I agree with that, lets do it. Any way
> > what are the conditions to receive that access key?
> >
> > Support guy:
> > I'm afraid that there is nothing I'm able to do regarding this situation.
> > If you have any other questions regarding enabling 3rd party options in
> > Arista switches, I suggest to contact your local account team (or sales)
> > for further discussion on this matter.
> >
> >
> > Next, i've tried inserting various QSFP+ DAC cables I have - none of them
> > has been even detected on the switch, it was acting like nothing has been
> > inserted. I guess that even if I get the key, most of my transceivers/DAC
> > (which work like a champ in Juniper or Extreme switches) cables wouldnt
> > work.
> >
> > I'm writing this post to make somebody who considers buying their
> switches
> > be aware of what they'd get. Just buy Juniper instead.
> >
> >
> >
> > Stanislaw wrote at 2016-08-17 23:25:
> >
> >> Hi Tim,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your expressive answer. Will try it :)
> >>
> >> Tim Jackson писал 2016-08-17 22:57:
> >>
> >> I'd suggest bitching and moaning at your account team & support until
> >>> they give you the key to unlock them..
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Stanislaw <m...@nek0.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>> Is there a way for unlocking off-brand transceivers usage on Arista
> >>>> switches?
> >>>>
> >>>> I've got an Arista 7050QX switch with 4.14 EOS version. Then it has
> >>>> been found out that Arista switches seem to not have possibility to
> unlock
> >>>> off-brand xcievers usage (by some service command or so).
> >>>>
> >>>> I've patched /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/XcvrAgent.py, made the
> >>>> checking function bypass the actual check and it helped: ports are
> not in
> >>>> errdisable state anymore. But despite of xceivers are detected
> correctly,
> >>>> links aren't coming up (they are in notconnect state).
> >>>>
> >>>> If anyone possibly have does have a sacred knowledge of bringing
> >>>> off-branded transceivers to life on Arista switches, your help'd be
> very
> >>>> appreciated. Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>
>

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

[Ryan Gelobter]

Instead of patching the python what happens if you just run 'no errdisable
recovery cause xcvr-unsupported'

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:24 AM, Stanislaw  wrote:

> Hi all,
> If somebody is following my epic adventure of getting uqualified SFP to
> work on Aristas, here is the unhappy end of it.
>
> I've written to Arista support and got the following dialogue:
> Support guy:
> Hi,
> Thank you for contacting Arista Support. My name is  and I'll be
> assisting you on this case.
> Could you please provide the "show version" output from this switch?
>
> Me:
> Hi,
> Here it is:
> 
>
> Support guy:
> Hi,
> Thank you for the information.
> Unfortunately, we are unable to activate your 3rd party components. To
> ensure ongoing quality, Arista devices are designed to support only
> properly qualified transceivers.
> Please let me know if you have any other questions.
>
> Me:
> I do not understand,
> But there is a command which allows using non-Arista transceivers. Why
> have you implemented it but don't provide an access key to your customers
> when they ask for it?
> If it is required to sign some papers which declare that I am aware of all
> the risks and losing my warranty - I agree with that, lets do it. Any way
> what are the conditions to receive that access key?
>
> Support guy:
> I'm afraid that there is nothing I'm able to do regarding this situation.
> If you have any other questions regarding enabling 3rd party options in
> Arista switches, I suggest to contact your local account team (or sales)
> for further discussion on this matter.
>
>
> Next, i've tried inserting various QSFP+ DAC cables I have - none of them
> has been even detected on the switch, it was acting like nothing has been
> inserted. I guess that even if I get the key, most of my transceivers/DAC
> (which work like a champ in Juniper or Extreme switches) cables wouldnt
> work.
>
> I'm writing this post to make somebody who considers buying their switches
> be aware of what they'd get. Just buy Juniper instead.
>
>
>
> Stanislaw wrote at 2016-08-17 23:25:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Thanks for your expressive answer. Will try it :)
>>
>> Tim Jackson писал 2016-08-17 22:57:
>>
>> I'd suggest bitching and moaning at your account team & support until
>>> they give you the key to unlock them..
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Stanislaw  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
 Is there a way for unlocking off-brand transceivers usage on Arista
 switches?

 I've got an Arista 7050QX switch with 4.14 EOS version. Then it has
 been found out that Arista switches seem to not have possibility to unlock
 off-brand xcievers usage (by some service command or so).

 I've patched /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/XcvrAgent.py, made the
 checking function bypass the actual check and it helped: ports are not in
 errdisable state anymore. But despite of xceivers are detected correctly,
 links aren't coming up (they are in notconnect state).

 If anyone possibly have does have a sacred knowledge of bringing
 off-branded transceivers to life on Arista switches, your help'd be very
 appreciated. Thanks.

>>>

Re: Cisco 2 factor authentication

[Ryan Gelobter]

We use Phonefactor (now azure authenticator) with anyconnect vpn. It sits
in front of LDAP/AD and integrates with it. It an be a PITA but it works.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Ray Ludendorff 
wrote:

> Has anyone setup two factor VPN using a Cisco ASA VPN solution?
> What sort of soft client based dual factor authentication options were
> used for the Cisco VPNs (e.g. Symantec VIP, Google authenticator, Azure
> authenticator, RSA, etc.)
> I am trying to find what infrastructure is needed to come up with the
> solution.
>
> Please contact me of list
>
> Regards
> Ray Ludendorff
>
>
>
>

Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

[Ryan Gelobter]

If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
under Network Events now.

Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets

08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT

Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet
Protocols dropping, affecting customer services.  Restoration efforts are
in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
time.

08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT

IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
continue collaboratively working the issue.


08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT

Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in Chicago,
IL investigating the issue.


08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT

The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.

08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT

IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III are
actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
hourly unless otherwise noted.

Re: Hotmail/live

[Ryan Gelobter]

I'd appreciate it if a postmaster from the Hotmail/Live team could contact
me off-list as well. My previous contacts are no longer part of the Hotmail
team and haven't been able to successfully get me in touch with anyone over
there.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:18 PM, matt kelly mjke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can a hotmail/live.com postmaster contact me offlist please?

 Thanks

Re: US DOJ victim letter

[Ryan Gelobter]

They are related to the DNSChanger and Ghostclick malware as ML said. The
e-mails to us did come from the DOJ e-mail servers and were legitimate. The
phone number is legit as well.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Todd Lyons tly...@ivenue.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Carlos Alcantar car...@race.com wrote:
 
  +1 on these emails we have received 3 of them.

 Three here as well.
 --
 SOPA: Any attempt to [use legal means to] reverse technological
 advances is doomed.  --Leo Leporte

Megaupload.com seized

[Ryan Gelobter]

The megaupload.com domain was seized today, has anyone noticed significant
drops in network traffic as a result?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78786408/Mega-Indictment
http://techland.time.com/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-megaupload-com-file-sharing-website/

Re: Monday Night Footbal -- on Google?

[Ryan Gelobter]

It will be at least 9-10 years before Google could bid. I think the TV
networks get a chance to renew before anyone else can even bid. Unless the
NFL decides to do something with the NFL Network games they are likely SOL.

ESPN renewed their MNF contract through 2021.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/sports/football/espn-extends-deal-with-nfl-for-15-billion.html


CBS, FOX, and NBC have renewed their contracts through 2022.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/19/nfl-renews-tv-deals-with-cbs-fox-nbc-for-nine-more-years-mone/

Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ?

[Ryan Gelobter]

I e-mailed Marco (md) the creator of 'whois' back in July when this started
and he stated he was going to try to work around the rWHOIS issue in the
next release. Sadly there hasn't been a new release yet but I am hopeful.

Re: DDoS - CoD?

[Ryan Gelobter]

Sadly I see these all the time, and Valve's SRCDS is vulnerable as well
(AFAIK any Q3 engine game is too). There are unofficial patches for source
but I wish Valve and others would fix it for good. Normally I see these
types of attacks in the 1-2Gbps range but we recently have seen them in the
5-8Gbps and even 10-20Gbps range. That is about 5000-15000 servers each
sending 1-2Mbps.

http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SRCDS_Hardening#A2S_INFO_Spam

The issue was partially resolved with Team Fortress 2 servers.

I've also seen something similar to these but with DNS data.

U XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:53 - XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:53
  .S.!.icann.org..D..
D+..X.XNq..Nh.m7/.icann.org.Y.W+...zzJ

...d.8S...;...U..[~[..}z+].Ov(..;\Gx..g.wv..S\y.-..4.'.Z..u.?..f.!...L..o
.wtEE.M..,.e...X..

...pechora4.e.e...X.pechora5.e.e...X.pechora6.e.e...X.pechora7.e.e...X.pechora8.e.e...X...

..pechora1.e.e...X.pechora2.e.e...X.pechora3.e.e...X.XNq.(Nh.m7/.icann.org.j...N..#{Gr.+GB
  ..Rl.4..[..}\.u.
...'..g.qd.y#1..[8rw1..i...g...f\.a.$2.kv64.pKv...1./..|..C..X.XN

q.Nh.m7/.icann.org..1...^:.}.w.?..*.+D..(b..-av.X.b.K.|..R..+.i..=E.al.vmMqe)i.}*Z.

...`..|..Nqb.Nh.m7/.icann.org.{.g.hh..z..0UV.I.-.v...rZK..t.?.l8...n...R.x8O...$vSR..3
  ._...a
..o.7.wk...rX..?n9.(...fk-...~..h.E..y.5...;..(.(.dns1.(.hostmaster.(w.*0..u..(...

3..Nq..Nh.m7/.icann.org.v5/5J{..[.c..e.z...;x9...DR.^B..V..q|.w.D.{..eb..\...G'...=L..

..~^...6..6...D..k..3.P0.t.0..Nq.RNh.m...icann.org.@W.
...i..Lj.j..c%..Y..

..._K=.j..E...u.`.L..=,.iK._.98X.G...V1J...N.B.k8..5.I..Pk..#..Vs.X.Ax...Pd7~~..$.[..{.l.8...
  
e...:=S2.l.}W.@#.e.LN.j..7g.s..4/52.@...[MUXu.f9U.y~rXFH/..O...'...y.j.


On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:19 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Arrgghhh

 This reminds me of the WebNFS attack.  Which is why Sun aborted
 WebNFS's public launch, after I pointed it out during its Solaris 2.6
 early access program.

 Never run a volume-multiplying service on UDP if you can help it,
 exposed to the outside world, without serious in-band source
 verification.  Amplification attacks are a classic easy DDOS win.


 -george

 On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Jeff Walter je...@he.net wrote:
  Call of Duty is apparently using the same flawed protocol as Quake III
  servers, so you can think of it as an amplification attack.  (I wish I'd
  forgotten all about this stuff)
 
  You send \xff\xff\xff\xffgetstatus\n in a UDP packet with a spoofed
  source, and the server responds with everything you see.  With decent
  amplification (15B - ~500B) and the number of CoD servers in world you
  could very easily build up a sizable attack.
 
  --
  Jeff Walter
  Network Engineer
  Hurricane Electric
 



 --
 -george william herbert
 george.herb...@gmail.com

Windows Live Mail/Hotmail Postmaster Contact?

[Ryan Gelobter]

Can anyone provide me with an alternative contact to someone at Hotmail?
I've tried their support form over at
https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsmsblct=eformtsst=1wfxredirect=1which
doesn't seem to ever generate even an auto-reply anymore. Feel free to
contact me off-list.

Internet Issues in Europe Tonight?

[Ryan Gelobter]

Does anyone have some detailed information about the internet issues going
on in Sweden and other parts of Europe right now? I've read some reports
about a large Telia outage in Sweden indicating a fault somewhere
in Frankfurt or London as the cause.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article8609308.ab
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/stort-internetfel-i-europa

RE: IPv6 enabled carriers?

[Ryan Gelobter]

NTT offers IPv6

Ryan G
Limestone Networks, Inc.
www.limestonenetworks.com
Simple.  Solid.  Superior.


-Original Message-
From: Charles Mills [mailto:w3y...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:01 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: IPv6 enabled carriers?

Does anyone have a list of carriers who are IPv6 capable today?

I would assume this would be rolled out in larger cities first but anything 
outside of testbed environments and trials as in Comcast's recent 
announcement seems to be all that is available.

I'm being tasked with coming up with an IPv6 migration plan for a data center.

Mostly interested in if ATT, Level3, GLBX, Saavis, Verizon Business and Qwest 
are capable as those are the typical ones I deal with.


Thanks...Chuck

RE: used hardware..

[Ryan Gelobter]

We use Network Hardware Resale every couple of months and they are great. I 
haven't had experience selling anything to them, only purchasing.

http://www.networkhardware.com/

Ryan G
IT Assistant/Support Technician
Limestone Networks, Inc.
r.gelob...@limestonenetworks.com
www.limestonenetworks.com
Simple.  Solid.  Superior.


-Original Message-
From: Mehmet Akcin [mailto:meh...@akcin.net] 
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:34 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: used hardware..

Hello there..

I am looking to sell and buy some used hardware, where is the best place for 
this, other than ebay ?

Mostly juniper stuff

thanks in advance.

Mehmet

RE: Earthlink SMTP Admin Contact?

[Ryan Gelobter]

Thanks for the number, but their NOC was unable to help me. They referred me 
back to their Abuse Mailbox and abuse e-mail addresses 
(blockedbyearthl...@abuse.earthlink.net, ab...@abuse.earthlink.net). They were 
unable to provide any alternative number or e-mail address. I ended up calling 
their corporate office (404.815.0770) and spoke to an operator who confirmed 
with senior tech's that the abuse team their checks the mailbox but they 
apparently are not in the office and work from home. Senior tech support tells 
me the mail server is not blocked even though I get blocked messages and 
escalating it further would not do anything as they show it as not blocked.

Tech support uses the same procedure as the mail administrator does which is to 
e-mail blockedbyearthlink@ address with the subject BLOCKED: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 
(replace with the ip) and if it is blocked they will unblock you. Sadly, I 
tried that already.

Ryan G
IT Assistant/Support Technician
Limestone Networks, Inc.
r.gelob...@limestonenetworks.com
www.limestonenetworks.com
Simple.  Solid.  Superior.


-Original Message-
From: Peter Beckman [mailto:beck...@angryox.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:28 PM
To: Jason Williams
Cc: Ryan Gelobter; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Earthlink SMTP Admin Contact?

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Jason Williams wrote:

 On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Ryan Gelobter wrote:

 Any chance there's someone from Earthlink on nanog or anyone that has 
 contact information?

 Their NOC has an unlisted number: +1 404-815-0770 x22277

  Not anymore, it would seem.  NANOG Archives FTW.

---
Peter Beckman  Internet Guy
beck...@angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/
---

Earthlink SMTP Admin Contact?

[Ryan Gelobter]

Any chance there's someone from Earthlink on nanog or anyone that has contact 
information?

We have a large IP block that is being listed as dynamic by Earthlink's mail 
servers causing mail to be returned and have gotten nowhere with the normal 
procedures or the abuse mailbox at (866) 525-8194.

Feel free to contact me off-list.

Thanks,

Ryan G
IT Assistant/Support Technician
Limestone Networks, Inc.
r.gelob...@limestonenetworks.commailto:r.gelob...@limestonenetworks.com
www.limestonenetworks.comhttp://www.limestonenetworks.com
Simple.  Solid.  Superior.