Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Snowmobile2004 
;>> Lets deal with REAL threats not PC references.
>>>>
>>>> Time to evaluate n re eval Our NTS!!
>>>>
>>>> Veni vidi vici 2022
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 5:01 PM Eric Kuhnke 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can we have a discussion with the list admins about a list member
>>>>> appending a threat of violence to their outbound emails? Whether serious 
>>>>> or
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this person need directions to some local mental healthcare
>>>>> resources?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 08:48, Keith Medcalf 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >I can't either, but the reality right now seems to be that 911 calls
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> >failing for anyone on a Rogers cellphone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is par for the course. These people chose to deal with Rogers
>>>>>> despite knowing the consequences. It is like if you bought a Rogers
>>>>>> Snowblower and it did not work. That would mean that people who bought 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Rogers Snowblower will not be using it to get rid of the snow that is
>>>>>> preventing them from leaving their house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mutatis mutandis when Rogers is down things that are Rogers dependent
>>>>>> will not work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some people are so retarded it is astonishing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> (CAUTION) You are advised that if you attack my person or property,
>>>>>> you will be put down in accordance with the provisions of section 34 & 35
>>>>>> of the Criminal Code respectively. If you are brandishing (or in
>>>>>> possession) of a weapon then lethal force will be applied to your person 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> accordance with the law. This means that your misadventures may end in 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> death. Consider yourself cautioned and govern your actions appropriately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >-Original Message-
>>>>>> >From: NANOG  On Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> >Eric Kuhnke
>>>>>> >Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34
>>>>>> >To: jim deleskie 
>>>>>> >Cc: NANOG list 
>>>>>> >Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >I have seen anecdotal reports that the mobile network is in a half
>>>>>> broken
>>>>>> >state that phones remain registered to, so a 911 call will attempt
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >then fail.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >This is unlike what would happen if you had a US/Canada cellphone
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> >battery power but no SIM card in it that would search for any
>>>>>> available
>>>>>> >network in RF range for a 911 call if needed.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 12:31, jim deleskie >>>>> ><mailto:deles...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > i cant see BGP taking out SS7.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -jim
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:45 PM Snowmobile2004
>>>>>> >mailto:greenjosh6...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > According to Cloudflare Radar
>>>>>> ><https://radar.cloudflare.com/asn/812?date_filter=last_24_hours> ,
>>>>>> Rogers
>>>>>> >BGP announcements spiked massively to levels 536,777% higher than
>>>>>> normal
>>>>>> >(343,601 vs 64 normally) just minutes before the outage. I would not
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> >surprised if this happened to be the culprit.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> > Josh Green
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:19 PM Andrew Paolucci via NANOG
>>>>>> >mailto:nanog@nanog.org> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > In the early hours of the morning around 2-3am my modem
>>>>>> >got hit with a configuration update that caused a DHCP release that
>>>>>> >wasn't renewed for about two hours, after rollback the connection was
>>>>>> >fine for 3 hours before this network wide outage.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Maybe a failed night time update was attempted again
>>>>>> >during office hours, I've heard daytime guys are still WFH and night
>>>>>> >shift is in building.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I expect we'll never get a real explanation. Rogers is
>>>>>> >notorious for withholding any type of helpful or technical
>>>>>> information.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent from my inoperable Rogers Mobile via emergency eSIM.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Andrew Paolucci
>>>>>> >  Original Message 
>>>>>> > On Jul. 8, 2022, 1:48 p.m., Jay Hennigan < j...@west.net
>>>>>> ><mailto:j...@west.net> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 7/8/22 07:44, Robert DeVita wrote: > Does anyone
>>>>>> >have information on a widespread Rogers outage in Canada. I > have
>>>>>> >customers with multiple sites down. There's discussion on the Outages
>>>>>> >mailing list. Seems widespread, affecting all services, mobile,
>>>>>> voice,
>>>>>> >Internet. No cause or ETR posted yet. -- Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
>>>>>> ><mailto:j...@west.net> Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> >WB6RDV
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Josh Green.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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*Josh Green.*

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Snowmobile2004 
According to Cloudflare Radar
, Rogers
BGP announcements spiked massively to levels 536,777% higher than normal
(343,601 vs 64 normally) just minutes before the outage. I would not be
surprised if this happened to be the culprit.

Regards,
Josh Green

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:19 PM Andrew Paolucci via NANOG 
wrote:

> In the early hours of the morning around 2-3am my modem got hit with a
> configuration update that caused a DHCP release that wasn't renewed for
> about two hours, after rollback the connection was fine for 3 hours before
> this network wide outage.
>
>
> Maybe a failed night time update was attempted again during office hours,
> I've heard daytime guys are still WFH and night shift is in building.
>
>
> I expect we'll never get a real explanation. Rogers is notorious for
> withholding any type of helpful or technical information.
>
>
> Sent from my inoperable Rogers Mobile via emergency eSIM.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Paolucci
>  Original Message 
> On Jul. 8, 2022, 1:48 p.m., Jay Hennigan < j...@west.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 7/8/22 07:44, Robert DeVita wrote: > Does anyone have information on a
> widespread Rogers outage in Canada. I > have customers with multiple sites
> down. There's discussion on the Outages mailing list. Seems widespread,
> affecting all services, mobile, voice, Internet. No cause or ETR posted
> yet. -- Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503
> 897-8550 - WB6RDV
>
>

-- 
*Josh Green.*