Re: Wired access to SMS?
Have you looked at Google Voice much? I have mine set up to SMS all my devices, including email delivery, and can enable/disable devices as needed. The big benefit, is that I have an inbox full of all my old inbound and outbound text messages. It might be that I am missing a key element, but it looks like you want a virtual (VoIP) SMS number, and be able to decide which devices in the US receive the messages. On Oct 9, 2012 12:56 PM, Lyle Giese l...@lcrcomputer.net wrote: On 10/09/12 14:35, William Herrin wrote: Hi Folks, I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My main criteria are: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. I can consider Internet based systems where the provider uses U.S. based facilities and ties in to a U.S. phone network, provided that my standards of reliability and redundancy are met by their infrastructure. Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. Has anybody had any luck with this kind of requirement? Which vendors should I talk to and who at the vendor? Thanks, Bill Herrin If these are your phones, you will be controlling the carrier. If they are all one carrier, you can find out how to send to that carrier. For other uses where you don't control the carrier, it becomes a nightmare and where you may want to get a service provider to do that for you. Most carriers have a way to send messages directly to phones and I use a phone from one specific carrier that has access via modems(using TAP protocol and I use qpage(www.qpage.org)). You can also use qpage via a public(but carrier specific) snpp server, but I have not had a need for that as I need/want off Internet delivery of messages to the carrier's network. On the expensive side, lookup 'sms short code' and you will see information on how that works and more info on service providers in this area. Lyle Giese LCR Computer Services, Inc.
Re: Wired access to SMS?
I will need to look into the Google Apps for business part of the voice product. I have not really tried apps accounts yet. As far as APIs go, it looks like most are unofficial, but there is community support. Check googlevoice.org and also code.google. com/p/pygooglevoice for examples of what can be accomplished today. The Canada part is a showstopper, but it should be fairly easy to use a for exit node in the US to allow you to sign up for a US number. I do know that US users can still call all of Canada for free through the end of this year. My gut feel is that the telcos are what is keeping Google from releasing the product to a broader audience, e.g. more countries than the US. On Oct 9, 2012 3:25 PM, TJ trej...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:47 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:05 PM, steve pirk [egrep] st...@pirk.com wrote: Have you looked at Google Voice much? I have mine set up to SMS all my devices, including email delivery, and can enable/disable devices as needed. The big benefit, is that I have an inbox full of all my old inbound and outbound text messages. ++1 on Google Voice. Hi Steve, Google voice is a fine service and if they sold it with an API, I might well buy it. As a free public service with a strictly unofficial API, I can't seriously consider using it in my product's critical path. I need a service whose provider is actually obligated to keep it working to the standard of resilience typical of the rest of my system. Let me put it another way: with google voice, google mail, google search you are not the customer. You're the product. I use gmail for my personal mail and I can live with that. For business services, I need to be the customer. FWLIW - I think that is a bit harsh, even if mostly accurate. I love GVoice for sending receiving texts across multiple devices, some of which aren't cellular - or wired - at all :). *(Also have phone calls ring not just my phones, but Skype and GChat as well ...)* /TJ
Re: Fyi...
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Robert Mathews (OSIA) math...@hawaii.eduwrote: It it is of interest... https://www.change.org/petitions/from-educause-higher-ed-wireless-networking-admin-group I was not aware of this limitation. Android and other Chrome devices do not have issues like these. Wow. --steve
Re: FYI Netflix is down
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com wrote: We continue to investigate why these connections were timing out during connect, rather than quickly determining that there was no route to the unavailable hosts and failing quickly. potential translation: We continue to shoot ourselves in the foot by filtering all ICMP without understanding the implications. Sorry to mention my favorite hardware vendor again, but that is what I liked about using F5 BigIP as load balancing devices... They did layer 7 url checking to see if the service was really responding (instead of just pinging or opening a connection to the IP). We performed tests that would do a complete LDAP SSL query to verify a directory server could actually look up a person. If it failed to answer within a certain time frame, then it was taken out of rotation. I do not know if that was ever implemented in production, but we did verify it worked. On the software in the hardware can fail point, my only defense is you do redundant testing of the watcher devices, and have enough of them to vote misbehaving ones out of service. Oh, and it is best if the global load balancing hardware/software is located somewhere else besides the data centers being monitored. -- steve pirk
Re: FYI Netflix is down
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Ryan Malayter malay...@gmail.com wrote: Doing it the right way makes the cloud far less cost-effective and far less agile. Once you get it all set up just so, change becomes very difficult. All the monitoring and fail-over/fail-back operations are generally application-specific and provider-specific, so there's a lot of lock-in. Tools like RightScale are a step in the right direction, but don't really touch the application layer. You also have to worry about the availability of yet another provider! I am pretty sure Netflix and others were trying to do it right, as they all had graceful fail-over to a secondary AWS zone defined. It looks to me like Amazon uses DNS round-robin to load balance the zones, because they mention returning a list of addresses for DNS queries, and explains the failure of the services to shunt over to other zones in their postmortem. Elastic Load Balancers (ELBs) allow web traffic directed at a single IP address to be spread across many EC2 instances. They are a tool for high availability as traffic to a single end-point can be handled by many redundant servers. ELBs live in individual Availability Zones and front EC2 instances in those same zones or in other Availability Zones. ELBs can also be deployed in multiple Availability Zones. In this configuration, each Availability Zone’s end-point will have a separate IP address. A single Domain Name will point to all of the end-points’ IP addresses. When a client, such as a web browser, queries DNS with a Domain Name, it receives the IP address (“A”) records of all of the ELBs in random order. While some clients only process a single IP address, many (such as newer versions of web-browsers) will retry the subsequent IP addresses if they fail to connect to the first. A large number of non-browser clients only operate with a single IP address. During the disruption this past Friday night, the control plane (which encompasses calls to add a new ELB, scale an ELB, add EC2 instances to an ELB, and remove traffic from ELBs) began performing traffic shifts to account for the loss of load balancers in the affected Availability Zone. As the power and systems returned, a large number of ELBs came up in a state which triggered a bug we hadn’t seen before. The bug caused the ELB control plane to attempt to scale these ELBs to larger ELB instance sizes. This resulted in a sudden flood of requests which began to backlog the control plane. At the same time, customers began launching new EC2 instances to replace capacity lost in the impacted Availability Zone, requesting the instances be added to existing load balancers in the other zones. These requests further increased the ELB control plane backlog. Because the ELB control plane currently manages requests for the US East-1 Region through a shared queue, it fell increasingly behind in processing these requests; and pretty soon, these requests started taking a very long time to complete. http://aws.amazon.com/message/67457/ *In reality, though, Amazon data centers have outages all the time. In fact, Amazon tells its customers to plan for this to happen, and to be ready to roll over to a new data center whenever there’s an outage.* *That’s what was supposed to happen at Netflix Friday night. But it didn’t work out that way. According to Twitter messages from Netflix Director of Cloud Architecture Adrian Cockcroft and Instagram Engineer Rick Branson, it looks like an Amazon Elastic Load Balancing service, designed to spread Netflix’s processing loads across data centers, failed during the outage. Without that ELB service working properly, the Netflix and Pintrest services hosted by Amazon crashed.* http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/06/real-clouds-crush-amazon/ I am a big believer in using hardware to load balance data centers, and not leave it up to software in the data center which might fail. Speaking of services like RightScale, Google announced Compute Engine at Google I/O this year. BuildFax was an early Adopter, and they gave it great reviews... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCjSJ778tGU It looks like Google has entered into the VPS market. 'bout time... ;-] http://cloud.google.com/products/compute-engine.html --steve pirk
Re: FYI Netflix is down
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Not entirely. Datacenters do go down, our best efforts to the contrary notwithstanding. Amazon doesn't guarantee you redundancy on EC2, only the tools to provide it yourself. 25% Amazon; 75% service provider clients; that's my appraisal of the blame. From a Wired article: That’s what was supposed to happen at Netflix Friday night. But it didn’t work out that way. According to Twitter messages from Netflix Director of Cloud Architecture Adrian Cockcroft and Instagram Engineer Rick Branson, it looks like an Amazon Elastic Load Balancing service, designed to spread Netflix’s processing loads across data centers, failed during the outage. Without that ELB service working properly, the Netflix and Pintrest services hosted by Amazon crashed. http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/06/real-clouds-crush-amazon/ The GSLB fail-over that was supposed to take place for the affected services (that had configured their applications to fail-over) failed. I heard about this the day after Google announced the Compute Engine addition to the App Engine product lines they have. The demo was awesome. I imagine Google has GSLB down pat by now, so some companies might start looking... ;-] --steve
Re: Verisign deep-hacked. For months.
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 16:42, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote: That part is ambiguous at the moment since Verisign has not released details. Symantec has bought the SSL part of the business and claim that the SSL acquired network is not compromised. Sounds like lots of assumptions being drawn. Zaid I am thinking it is related to the Chinese hacking of Gmail accounts in the fall of 2010. Symantic acquired the SSL business in August 2010. The hacking could have been in the spring for all we know. Google uses Thwate as it's CA, but Thwate has Builtin Object Token: Verisign Class 3 Public Primary Certificate Authority as it's root. Seems to me part of the problem was traced back to browsers not checking revoked certs via the browser CRLs. Didn't some in the chain have revoked certs still installed? -- steve pirk yensid father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune Google+ pirk.com
Google+ now available for Google Apps domains
Y'all ragged on me because Google+ was only available to gmail users... Well, now you can enable it for your users from the control panel on your Google Apps domains... Google Apps administrators can manually turn on Google+http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=1631744 for their organization. Once Google+ is turned on, users will need to sign up at google.com/+ http://www.google.com/+ to get started. For customers who use Google Apps for Business or the free version of Google Apps and who have chosen to automatically enable new serviceshttp://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=82691, Google+ will automatically become available to all of your users over the next several days. *Editions included:* Google Apps, Google Apps for Business, Government and Education* http://googleappsupdates.blogspot.com/2011/10/google-now-available-for-google-apps.html Now, do I toss the last 1.5 years of posts and use my apps domain, or stay as my gmail user account. Decisions, decisions... Methjinks history is the better part of valor, so I will stay using my gmail account. It would be cool if you could link them. -- steve pirk yensid father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09 - Google+ pirk.com
Re: Facebook insecure by design
On Oct 24, 2011 7:55 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: You can even download it all and erase yourself if you want out. Don't count on it. You may 'disappear' from public view, but that does not necessarily mean the data is truely 'gone'. Specific example -- if you request a USENET posting to be removed, all they do is make it 'invisible' to the world. It is _not_ removed from the databases, or from inernal access/use. That is a very good point, and one of the things that is being tested now that Buzz is going into archive mode. Users are given the option of backing up their posts on Buzz, and then deleting their Buzz content. Many like myself will just leave it there. It is a year+ of history, and what I posted publicly can stay public. It is supposed to remove all your Buzz content from the service and I believe it includes the content shared only with certain individuals. It does not completely erase it, because I believe email copies of the posts and comments that people had sent to their Gmail accounts will remain with those users. Deleting a product like your Picasa web albums is permanent as far as I know, but I will definitely ask some people on the Picasa team. Deleting your search history and other Dashboard items is supposed to be permanent, but as you pointed out, we are taking Google's word for it. --steve
Re: Facebook insecure by design
Just about everything on Google pages is https these days, even search if you enable it. If anybody on this thread uses gmail com a you really ought to take a look at google plus. Compare the way user privacy is the primary objective, versus the share everything by default of facebook. I cannot think of anything that could do something like this in the Gmail or Plus products. On Oct 19, 2011 11:22 PM, Murtaza leothelion.murt...@gmail.com wrote: Going back to the initial security problem identified by Williams, I also experienced something today. I guess he is right about that. I am behind a proxy and I just disabled the proxy for Secure Web which means HTTPS. Now guess what I was still able to access facebook while I was not able to access google. That clearly means there is something wrong. What do you guys think? Ghulam On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Bill.Pilloud bill.pill...@gmail.com wrote: Is this not the nature of social media? If you want to make sure something is secure (sensitive information), Why is it on social media. If you are worried about it being monetised, I think Google has already done that. - Original Message - From: Joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com To: Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 4:05 PM Subject: Re: Facebook insecure by design On 10/2/11 15:43 , Joel jaeggli wrote: On 10/2/11 15:25 , Jimmy Hess wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 08:38:36 PDT, Michael Thomas said: I'm not sure why lack of TLS is considered to be problem with Facebook. The man in the middle is the other side of the connection, tls or otherwise. Ooh.. subtle. :) Man in the Middle (MITM) is a technical term that refers to a rather specific kind of attack. In this case, I believe the proper term would be just The man. [Or Man at the Other End (MATOE)]; you either trust Facebook with info to send to them or you don't, and network security is only for securing the transportation of that information you opt to send facebook. alice sends charlie a message using bob's api, bob can observe and probably monetize the contents. Yes, if Alice sends Bob an encrypted message that Bob can read, and Bob turns out to be untrustworthy, then Bob can sell/re-use the information in an abusive/unapproved way for personal or economic profit. charlie is probably untrustworthy, bob is probably moreso (mostly ^ trustworthy because bob has more to lose than charlie), alice isn't cognizant of the implications of running charlie's app on bob's platform despite the numerous disclaimers she blindly clicked through on the way there. -- -JH
Re: Facebook insecure by design
I follow Lauren on plus, and also on buzz, and we have discussed privacy stuff a lot. The way I look at it, unless you want to host everything yourself, you have to choose someone to be your Unix like home directory in the cloud. Of all the internet entities out there, Google has had the best track record of protecting your data. You can even download it all and erase yourself if you want out. Apps accounts and pseudonym accounts are coming soon. It was announced by Vic himself at web 2.0. I need to send that post by Lauren to the gmail account. He always finds good issues. It could be that I am off base. On Oct 23, 2011 4:04 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org On 2011-10-23 19:43 , steve pirk [egrep] wrote: Just about everything on Google pages is https these days, even search if you enable it. (or just use https://encrypted.google.com which is available for quite some time already) Note that Lauren Weinstein has just put out a Privacy Digest posting noting that the referer behavior differs between https://encrypted.google.com and https://www.google.com in a way that implies that, again, someone at Google may not have gotten the Don't Be Evil memo... http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000906.html Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Re: Facebook insecure by design
That was a most excellent example Jay. I see what the issue is now. This could be related to work Google did to plus shortly after launch. Buzz and now Google+ are https only. Google cooked up a URL processer that took clicks to external content like article links, and massaged the referrer be readable as http to show where the visitor came from. Sanitized of any personal data I assume. The problem they were trying to fix was no one knew any users were coming from Buzz clicks. They fixed that in +. I am thinking something of the same might fix the search issues. It could also be that a Googler saw Lauren's post and the debate has already started. -steve On Oct 23, 2011 4:04 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org On 2011-10-23 19:43 , steve pirk [egrep] wrote: Just about everything on Google pages is https these days, even search if you enable it. (or just use https://encrypted.google.com which is available for quite some time already) Note that Lauren Weinstein has just put out a Privacy Digest posting noting that the referer behavior differs between https://encrypted.google.com and https://www.google.com in a way that implies that, again, someone at Google may not have gotten the Don't Be Evil memo... http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000906.html Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
Found this posting: Blackberry down. Research in Motion (RIM) sent the following e-mail to all clients: To: All Blackberry Clients Please be advised that Research in Motion (RIM) is experiencing world-wide connectivity issues affecting email flow to and from all Blackberries. RIM has not provided an expected time to resolution as of yet. Once we receive notice that the issue is resolved, we will forward that information to you. Thank you, Corporate Information Systems/Mobile Services On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:05, Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.comwrote: -Original Message- From: D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. [mailto:fo...@lemcoe.com] Sent: 12 October 2011 18:01 Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Haven't received an e-mail on my Blackberry since around 4AM, located in Atlanta. Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-) -- Leigh __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ -- steve pirk yensid father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09 - Google+ pirk.com
Re: Were A record domain names ever limited to 23 characters?
Hahahahaha! That is awesome. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 17:50, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: back in the day, abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.ca.us. existed to test the length of DNS label. circa 1992 ^b.com also existed (yes, we considered ^p) the heady days of DNS evolution! /bill On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 06:16:46PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: NSI was never the only registrar. They were just the only registrar for COM, ORG, NET, EDU, and possibly a few other TLDs, but, they were, for example, never the registrar for US or many other CCTLDs. Therefore, it was not internet wide, though I will admit that it did cover most of the widely known gTLDs. Owen On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:45 PM, steve pirk [egrep] wrote: It turns out it was an artificial limitation on Network Solution's part. Being the only registrar at the time, it was pretty much internet wide at that point, contrary to the RFC spec. What was so funny was that someone got Internic/Network Solutions to up the limit. Apparently just to save some money on reprinting movie posters... ok, so they would have had to change some trailers... ;-] On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 16:39, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote: I remember tales from when there was an eight character limit. But that was back when you didn't have to pay for them and they assigned you a class-c block automatically. Of course it took six weeks to register because there was only one person running the registry. You may be referring to a limitation of a certain OS regarding a hostname; or some network's policy. But the DNS protocol itself never had a limit of 8 characters. When we are talking about the contents of A record names, I would refer you to http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2181.txt RFC 2181 Clarifications to the DNS Specification R. Elz, R. Bush [ July 1997 ] (TXT = 36989) (Updates RFC1034, RFC1035, RFC1123) (Updated-By RFC4035, RFC2535, RFC4343, RFC4033, RFC4034, RFC5452) (Status: PROPOSED STANDARD) (Stream: IETF, Area: int, WG: dnsind) Elz Bush Standards Track[Page 12] ... Occasionally it is assumed that the Domain Name System serves only the purpose of mapping Internet host names to data, and mapping Internet addresses to host names. This is not correct, the DNS is a general (if somewhat limited) hierarchical database, and can store almost any kind of data, for almost any purpose. ... 11. Name syntax The length of any one label is limited to between 1 and 63 octets. A full domain name is limited to 255 octets (including the separators). The zero length full name is defined as representing the root of the DNS tree, and is typically written and displayed as .. Those restrictions aside, any binary string whatever can be used as the label of any resource record. -- -JH -- steve pirk refiamerica.org father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09 -- steve pirk yensid father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09 - Google+ pirk.com
Y'all know Google is offering public DNS services now?
I saw this in a post from Travis Wise of Google yesterday. Pretty cool for those users who do not want to use their ISP's name servers, or just want to have dns resolve quickly from anywhere in the world. In either case, I think it is cool ;-] http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/ Here is the original post - Yes, this one is public... oops! https://plus.google.com/111937447827665620879/posts/27S6QB8j1Ry Nice easy numbers to remember too. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 -- steve pirk yensid father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09
Re: Y'all know Google is offering public DNS services now?
Wow, consider me educated on old news. LOL I imagine it is new to many of the users on the new service they launched. I completely forgot that Nanog would probably be the first to comment and chime in when it first became available. Thanks for the information. I will definitely research the CDN issues. Back to school steve...Why did I Awesome link Todd - Why did I think that the resolving server would already know where network path wise the request came from. Let me post this as a comment and ask how the CDN endpoint routing is working. Better yet, change the dns on my router, and Netflix on the Google TV should let me know how well it is streaming. --steve On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 15:10, Michael Painter tvhaw...@shaka.com wrote: Todd Underwood wrote: not bad for CDNs anymore: http://arstechnica.com/**telecom/news/2011/08/opendns-** and-google-working-with-cdns-**on-dns-speedup.arshttp://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2011/08/opendns-and-google-working-with-cdns-on-dns-speedup.ars t Fwiw, ol' Steve Gibson has written a small (167KB), .exe, DNS Benchmark. It's easy to add 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 (or any nameserver) to the .ini file from within the program . http://www.grc.com/dns/**benchmark.htmhttp://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm --Michael -- steve pirk yensid father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09 - Google+ pirk.com
Re: Were A record domain names ever limited to 23 characters?
I posted a story about a domain that was one character too long on Google+. A few old-school Disney Online people remembered it enough to comment/+1 it, and agreed that it did happen. This event has bothered me for years, because everyone seemed to think long names were always possible. I kept thinking I imagined the whole thing, but it did happen after all. Too funny. https://plus.google.com/114144561369449816821/posts/MvZYRvGmH5a or http://goo.gl/WHEP3 if you prefer a shortened url. --steve On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:28, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On Friday, September 30, 2011 05:54:38 PM steve pirk [egrep] wrote: I seem to recollect back the 1999 or 2000 times that I was unable to register a domain name that was 24 characters long. Shortly after that, I heard that the character limit had been increased to like 128 characters, and we were able to register the name. Can anyone offer some input, or is this a memory of a bad dream? ;-] At least as of 2008, you could go 45 characters, not counting the TLD: ++ $ whois pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.com [Querying whois.verisign-grs.com] [Redirected to whois.above.com] [Querying whois.above.com] [whois.above.com] The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and Registrars.Registration Service Provided By: ABOVE.COM, Pty. Ltd. Contact: +613.95897946 Domain Name: PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS.COM Registrant: Above.com Domain Privacy 8 East concourse Beaumaris VIC 3193 AU pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis@privacy.above.com Tel. +61.395897946 Fax. Creation date: 2008-02-20 Expiration Date: 2012-02-20 ... $ ping www.pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.com PING www.pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.com (69.43.161.151) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 69.43.161.151: icmp_req=1 ttl=50 time=85.9 ms 64 bytes from 69.43.161.151: icmp_req=3 ttl=50 time=85.7 ms 64 bytes from 69.43.161.151: icmp_req=4 ttl=50 time=85.8 ms 64 bytes from 69.43.161.151: icmp_req=5 ttl=50 time=85.6 ms ^C --- www.pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.com ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 4 received, 20% packet loss, time 4002ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 85.618/85.815/85.984/0.132 ms + FWIW. -- steve pirk refiamerica.org father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09
Re: Were A record domain names ever limited to 23 characters?
It turns out it was an artificial limitation on Network Solution's part. Being the only registrar at the time, it was pretty much internet wide at that point, contrary to the RFC spec. What was so funny was that someone got Internic/Network Solutions to up the limit. Apparently just to save some money on reprinting movie posters... ok, so they would have had to change some trailers... ;-] On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 16:39, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote: I remember tales from when there was an eight character limit. But that was back when you didn't have to pay for them and they assigned you a class-c block automatically. Of course it took six weeks to register because there was only one person running the registry. You may be referring to a limitation of a certain OS regarding a hostname; or some network's policy. But the DNS protocol itself never had a limit of 8 characters. When we are talking about the contents of A record names, I would refer you to http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2181.txt RFC 2181 Clarifications to the DNS Specification R. Elz, R. Bush [ July 1997 ] (TXT = 36989) (Updates RFC1034, RFC1035, RFC1123) (Updated-By RFC4035, RFC2535, RFC4343, RFC4033, RFC4034, RFC5452) (Status: PROPOSED STANDARD) (Stream: IETF, Area: int, WG: dnsind) Elz Bush Standards Track[Page 12] ... Occasionally it is assumed that the Domain Name System serves only the purpose of mapping Internet host names to data, and mapping Internet addresses to host names. This is not correct, the DNS is a general (if somewhat limited) hierarchical database, and can store almost any kind of data, for almost any purpose. ... 11. Name syntax The length of any one label is limited to between 1 and 63 octets. A full domain name is limited to 255 octets (including the separators). The zero length full name is defined as representing the root of the DNS tree, and is typically written and displayed as .. Those restrictions aside, any binary string whatever can be used as the label of any resource record. -- -JH -- steve pirk refiamerica.org father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09
Re: Were A record domain names ever limited to 23 characters?
Found a decent starting reference. It was a Network solutions limit... I *knew* it! LOL http://www.123-domain-register.com/longdomainnames.htm The domain in question was inspectorgadgetthemovie.com 27 characters long including the .tld. I was off by one, the limit was 22 characters for the A record name and 4 characters for .com, .net, .org, .gov and .edu. From the 123-domain-register web page: The word is out... and the experts have been taking advantage of a change in Domain Name regulations that allows up to 67 characters in domain names. How this will impact you: - Long domain names filled with keywords can get you ranked higher on the search engines. (yes, the search engines will rank them) - For those who could not get a DOT.COM domain name, or were limited by the 22 character limit, those days are over...for awhile anyway. - This revolution is driven by entrepreneurs who can act quickly. If you do not act soon, all the good domains will be gone, and you will have to pay premiums you do not want to in order get the domain name you want. Since 1993, Network Solutions has registered more than 3.4 million domain names -- all limited to 26 characters. Now that their exclusive government contract is ending, competitors have tossed this artificial limit and are allowing longer names. Cool, I was not dreaming... ;-] --steve On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 15:00, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 02:54:38PM -0700, steve pirk [egrep] wrote: I seem to recollect back the 1999 or 2000 times that I was unable to register a domain name that was 24 characters long. Shortly after that, I heard that the character limit had been increased to like 128 characters, and we were able to register the name. Can anyone offer some input, or is this a memory of a bad dream? ;-] -- Steve Pirk Yensid the foundational DNS spec sez: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1035.txt 2.3.1 [elided] There are also some restrictions on the length. Labels must be 63 characters or less. /bill -- steve pirk refiamerica.org father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09
Re: Google DNS just disappeared
If you want to be able to ask Googlers directly on issues like this, you might try Google+. I am trying to spam, it is just that they are all available on there. Here is something Scoble posted the other day: I just spent an hour talking with a Google exec about + and I came away with a few things: 1. Google employees used to not be able to tell you what they are working on. Those days are gone. 2. There is more intellectual curiosity inside Google than I have seen in quite some time. 3. The + team is driven by our excitement and that has caused sizable shifts in employee attention. Translation: new features are coming. Everyone wants to work for a winner. This new Google attitude is something that feeds on itself. Translation: I am excited about the future here in a way that I was never excited about Buzz. It has been a while since I posted, but if anyone wants an invite, ping this account or pirkster at gmail. --steve On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 23:00, Cody Rose c...@killsudo.info wrote: It appeared to be very brief, I just happened to be in a Google Plus Hangout when the chat died then my Gtalk died followed by my Google homepage. By the time I got done checking DNS and was getting on a trace-route server my chat reconnected and service was back to normal. Just thought it was unusual to see all my Google services go offline at the same time. Regards, Cody Rose NOC Sys Admin Website: www.killsudo.info email: c...@killsudo.info -- steve pirk refiamerica.org father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09 _ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog
Re: Post positive reviews
Is this spam? ;-] I have been doing a lot of playing with Google Places and the new HotPot user ranking/review product, and for once, you get an honest list of reviews by local people. Only Google account holders can post reviews in the by Google users section. I believe they also have to have a public profile. So, trashing is possible, but you have to be able to back it up or you might find the local community shouting you down ;-] I really is a fairly neat twist on building a new kind of Yellow Pages... --steve On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:40, Eugene Zola angelar...@gmail.com wrote: Google’s Huge Change and How it affects you. •Anyone can now post bad reviews and kill your rank. •We post good reviews and improve your rank. •We post good reviews to keep others from killing your rank. Google: Judge, Jury and Online Shopping Executioner Google rank is based on reviews of your business? Google Statement: ...in the last few days we developed an algorithmic solution which detects the merchant from the Times article along with hundreds of other merchants that, in our opinion, provide an extremely poor user experience. The algorithm we incorporated into our search rankings represents an initial solution to this issue, and Google users are now getting a better experience as a result. This means that anyone can write bad reviews about your business and lower your ranking. We knew that getting good reviews and not getting bad reviews was always important. Now it is a must to have good reviews for your business to keep the rank safe or to improve rank with Google. We post positive reviews for your company. We have the experience and ability to post hundreds of positive reviews that are all unique content and posted on unique IP addresses. wwwpostgoodreviews.com -- steve pirk refiamerica.org father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09
Re: dark fiber
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 08:21, Jess Cohen j...@corenap.com wrote: GOOGLE: Dark fiber is optical fiber infrastructure (cabling and repeaters) that is currently in place but is not being used. Optical fiber conveys information in the form of light pulses so the dark means no light pulses are being sent. For example, some electric utilities have installed optical fiber cable where they already have power lines installed in the expectation that they can lease the infrastructure to telephone or cable TV companies or use it to interconnect their own offices. To the extent that these installations are unused, they are described as dark. That is better than the link I was going to reference - reason I was going there was the recent announcement of the Google fiber to the community beta test. Are we seeing the beginnings of another move? Android phone OS, Google voice, Nexus One with the ability to make all calls voip... I heard Google made some major concessions [charging tax on internet purchases of the Nexus One] and is still being blocked on the cannot be a phone company end. Maybe if you can show you own a certain amount of infrastructure you automatically qualify as a phone company? I have no idea, I just see lots of little pieces coming together right now... --steve -- steve pirk refiamerica.org father... the sleeper has awakened... paul atreides - dune kexp.org member august '09
Re: Using twitter as an outage notification
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009, Roland Perry wrote: There's the temptation by some of companies to leverage the latest technology to appear cool and in tune with customers, but by far and large, when something goes down customers either do no nothing, wait, or call in. I think the best use of everyone's time is to make sure their call center/support desk has the capability to post an announcement to those that call in. It's a High School. They don't have a support desk (or more than handful of phone lines [1]). Even the local radio station can't cope with one call per school asking them to broadcast the news that they have closed due to bad weather. If your resources are that tight, do what our local school district did, mandate that all bus schedules will only be available on the web site. And then make sure something gets posted to the website. Unfortunately, the number of students polling the website for news means it can't cope with the traffic. I don't believe they can justify paying more for better web hosting, just to manage this once-a-year half hour event. Roland, sounds like you should have a few public service announcements saying that school closures will be delivered via a certain twitter username. Also send a flyer home with the students. The radio station can pick up the twitter feed like everyone else, and announce closures. That is the way a certain group of people are doing it in the middle east right now, word gets around and word gets out... In your case, the community will know quickly, all from a couple of people logging into twitter and sending a few messages. Sounds like a simple, ideal solution given your budget constraints. -- steve
Re: Tor abuse FAQs
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: A friend sent me these links: https://www.torproject.org/faq.html.en#ExitPolicies https://www.torproject.org/faq-abuse.html.en https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en https://www.torproject.org/torusers.html.en Btw -- several folks have raised the issue of Iran. Here's a blog posting that may be of interest: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/measuring-tor-and-iran An official site on what the group is doing is at: http://nedanet.org/ On a related note, I posted a question about ipv6 a while back and the ticket I also opened is gertting bounced around with no one saying yes, this is my space. My ipv6 skills are seriously lacking... Can anyone shed light on how to find out where a certain IP is coming from? This device on a _very_ large pipe is becoming quite a pain. [eg...@pixel notes]$ host gateway01.sikt.ir Using domain server: Name: 67.19.72.206 Address: 67.19.72.206#53 Aliases: gateway01.sikt.ir has IPv6 address 2001:470:f15d:fe1d:33f:ad43:1:fa4 -- -steve On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: A friend sent me these links: https://www.torproject.org/faq.html.en#ExitPolicies https://www.torproject.org/faq-abuse.html.en https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en https://www.torproject.org/torusers.html.en Btw -- several folks have raised the issue of Iran. Here's a blog posting that may be of interest: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/measuring-tor-and-iran (My apologies if these have already been posted -- for assorted reasons involving my email setup, I cannot easily see any NANOG posts until some time tonight EDT.) -- steve
Re: Tor abuse FAQs
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Hurricane Electric. Probably a tunnel from their tunnelbroker free v6 service. $ whois 2001:470:f15d:fe1d:33f:ad43:1:fa4 Doh! See, I said my skills were lacking. How lacking I had not realized. Dh, use whois. What a dummy. Consider me educated list, I will crawl back into my cave :-) Thanks to everyone who responded with how to confirm HE. Abuse to them was passed to a customer of HE. Customer says not their space. Oh, well, back to searching. Thanks! -- steve
RE: tor
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Rod Beck wrote: This has nothing to do with telecommunications or any kind of carrier or business relationship. This is intentionally leaving your computer open so that anyone on the Internet can come along and appear to be coming from your IP, where they will promptly set off doing bad stuff that will get traced back to you rather than them. Think of it like intentionally [snip] Not sure if this just happened to pop up on the radar because of all the tor work being done to provide access out of Iran for citizens there that are blocked. Probably just a co-incidence, but since I just got done reading a bunch and setting up a bridge node (provate relay), I can say that there are also levels of liability. There are tor entry/egress points (where users enter and exit the tor netowrk), usually referred to as exit nodes, and then there are a bunch of tor relay nodes. A relay node just becomes part of the network, and sends and receives traffic inside the tor network. This _should_ be the most common configuration, but some people do not RTM and make themselves exit nodes. That is where you get into trouble. Relay nodes just pass encrypted packets - no exiting allowed. The third configuration is called a bridge node. This is a relay that does not tell anyone it is a node. A controller has a copy of that nodes public key, and builds a private network. Moral: you can help with tor without leaving yourself open to sbuse. From what I know, the bigger exit node operators are fully aware of the responsibility they have. -- steve
Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Tehran is currently UTC/GMT +4:30 hours. The current downtime is for 2:00 PM Pacific, or 1:30 AM in Tehran. That seems to be unfortunately still prime time for the nightly demonstrations, one of which is going on now. If the idea is to avoid such collisions, 5:00 PM or even 6:00 PM PDT would probably be better. Speaking of critical timings and demonstrations, anyone in the community have contacts/ideas for last mile connections in Teheran? The protesters are getting blocked right and left trying to get 'net access. There are some, ehrm, boxen out on the 'net to allow them to get around the active blocking going on, but most of the citizen reporters are unable to even get a conection to allow proxying out. Some serious censoring of 'net access going on. Just curious - replies off list if desired. Thanks in advance. -- steve
[inquiry] Internet/cell in Teheran down?
Npr (All things considered) is reporting that cell phones and Internet access in at least Teheran if not all of Iran is down. Reporters are unable to connect out. Anyone hear of anything? -steve
Re: Michael Mooney releases another worm: Law Enforcement / Intelligence Agency's do nothing
I get it now... Chaim Rieger = netdev Nice trick. -- Steve On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Chaim Rieger wrote: And I want cnet to not report this crap. They glamorise it. --Original Message-- From: andrew.wallace To: nanog@nanog.org To: n3td3v Subject: Re: Michael Mooney releases another worm: Law Enforcement / Intelligence Agency's do nothing Sent: Apr 17, 2009 18:38 So if Al-Qaeda blow up a shopping centre and the guy who masterminded it turns out to be 17 he gets a job in MI5? OH MY GOD. On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote: andrew.wallace wrote: I want this individual made an example of and im not joking. And I'd like an example made of companies that ignore reports of security flaws and leave their customers open to such worms; not to mention giving the impression to misguided teenagers that the only way they will be heard is to release a worm. Historically, I believe some companies have ignored security concerns until someone (sometimes non-maliciously) released a worm. Of course, even non-malicious worms can have unpredictable results which result in catastrophic behavior. The earliest examples predate my residence on the network, but I've read a small bug made them extremely bad. Jack Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
Re: Can anyone shed some light as to what is happening with Register.com?
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Steve Pirk wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:10:24 -0500 Erich Kolb ek...@kolbsoft.com wrote: Looks like they are having some serious issues. It doesn't appear that any of their domains are resolving. Hosted or otherwise. Hmm -- UltraDNS was attacked; I wonder if there's a connection. http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=15601 --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb A few weeks ago, there was tons of dns pounding all over the net. Today, we see registrars going dark because of dns issues. Today, people think Conficker will do something. I am puzzled. Maybe it is just 04/01 paranoia? Thought of one more thing... Wasn't Conficker also configured to try and register a ton of randomly generated domains? Two registrars go dark today? Ok, put the imagination on hold... -- Steve Equal bytes for women.
Re: Can anyone shed some light as to what is happening with Register.com?
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:10:24 -0500 Erich Kolb ek...@kolbsoft.com wrote: Looks like they are having some serious issues. It doesn't appear that any of their domains are resolving. Hosted or otherwise. Hmm -- UltraDNS was attacked; I wonder if there's a connection. http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=15601 --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb A few weeks ago, there was tons of dns pounding all over the net. Today, we see registrars going dark because of dns issues. Today, people think Conficker will do something. I am puzzled. Maybe it is just 04/01 paranoia? -- Steve Equal bytes for women.
Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check)
Ouch! We have some unsatisfied customers... :-) I have had business class for 1.5 years now, and granted, there have been issues and I usually ask for tier 2 within a few minutes, but I am fairly satisfied. Speed just jumped to say 6-10Mbs down, 2+ up a couple of weeks ago and it works well for me. I pay ~$68.00 a month for 5 ips. dsl is not really an option here. Too far to the co. -- Steve On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: Ryan, Last I talked to Comcast running BSD meant you're a hacker. Jeff On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Ryan A. Krenzischek r...@bbnx.net wrote: Well that explains it all since we are a *BSD shop. Ryan On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:02:12 -0500 From: Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net To: Ryan A. Krenzischek r...@bbnx.net Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check) Ryan, It's always your equipment. You should know that none of their customers have any clue how to run a network and therefore should remove them immediately. Any customer who is not running Windows and not connected directly to the router is to blame for any problems. Jeff On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Ryan A. Krenzischek r...@bbnx.net wrote: Yes, they do. You can find more information here: http://business.comcast.com/ethernet/dedicated-internet.aspx Although, I'm sufficiently disappointed with Comcast's Business Cable service. I have had them since 6-NOV-2008 and they took 4 months and 1 week to fix a cabling problem at the head-end for my business Internet. Apparently the head-end was wired wrong in regards to how power was supplied to it. I had nothing but dropped packets and latency (400-500 MS, sometimes 1200 MS) problems. I lost so much business. I tried multiple times to speak with a manager but they would only pick up their phone after I sat for 30 minutes with the phone, pressing the redial key and placed 60 calls to them. I had to call their corporate office and file a complaint. I am still having dropped packet issues. Comcast support also had the nerve to say it was my equipment and that I should immediately disconnect everything. Remind me again how is it my problem with *MY* equipment when the modem takes 25 minutes to sync/lock on the upstream channel? I would *highly* recommend a T1 or partial T3. While they are more expensive and highly reliable, ATT or other major telcos will fix the problem within a reasonable SLA. Comcast does NOT have a SLA. It took 4 months to fix my problems on a business account. A Very Unhappy Comcast Customer, Ryan Krenzischek On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Steven King wrote: Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:45:48 -0500 From: Steven King sk...@kingrst.com To: John Martinez jmarti...@zero11.com Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: comcast price check Comcast has an Ethernet service? John Martinez wrote: Does any one here use comcast's ethernet services? If so, what is their price range? Thanks in advance. -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications of The IRC Company, Inc. Look for us at HostingCon 2009 in Washington, DC on August 10th - 12th at Booth #401.
HUMOR: NANOG stop the economic downturn :-)
Heard this on NPR's All Things Considered today... Get busy people! :-) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98694231 Poet on Call by Andrei Codrescu The Machines Haven't Taken Over All Things Considered, December 24, 2008 With one pull of a switch, the ocean of junk that spilled out of my mailbox every day, was swooshed back into the speechless abyss. If you had asked me before this news, what hand human or divine could stop spam, I'd have answered like Heraclitus, Who can stop the sea from rising? It turns out that somebody before a keyboard can, thank you. There is hope. Machines haven't yet taken over. If it's that easy to stop what seemed like unstoppable, why can't other seemingly unstoppable human-generated and computer-driven phenomena be switched off the same way? Why isn't somebody pulling the switch on the collapsing world trade going on in the cracks between time zones? What's going on while I sleep and my retirement money slips down some unfathomable hole? Why don't the providers capable of such cosmic gestures as making the spam-ocean vanish, not exercise their benevolent force against other oceans that threaten us: the automatic unfair trades, the silent streams of world capital vanishing into invisible dead zones, the globe-circling panics? -- Steve Equal bytes for women.
Re: Rackmount Vendors
Not to plug people I know, but Chatsworth Products Inc. I know they are the best in the area and supply lots of fairly large cusomers (my real job included). http://www.chatsworth.com/datacenter -- Steve Equal bytes for women. On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Israel Lopez wrote: Hey there, Anyone know of a good rackmount supplies vendor near the greater Los Angeles, CA area? Looking for a rack and some rackmount power strips if possible. Contact me off list. Thanks Much, Israel
Re: comcast
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Randy Bush wrote: Does anybody heard if comcast is having problems today? lucy was having problems in eugene orygun. she diagnosed and then gave up and went to dinner. randy I have a comcast business line in Western WA and have seen no hiccups so far today. Main IP is 75.146.60.201. If someone that is seeing issues can send me an IP, I can traceroute to see if I can reach it from within Comcast. -- Steve Equal bytes for women.
RE: Oregon/Washington Comcast outage
I have a Comcast business line, and have bbeen up all day. Here is my trace to the same IP (from Bremerton WA): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ traceroute 208.74.128.9 traceroute to 208.74.128.9 (208.74.128.9), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 73.96.188.1 (73.96.188.1) 8.051 ms 11.888 ms 6.731 ms 2 GE-2-35-ur01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net (68.86.98.81) 8.541 ms 7.219 ms * 3 te-7-3-ar01.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net (68.86.96.46) 13.948 ms 8.413 ms * 4 * * te-9-1-ar02.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net (68.86.96.170) 9.484 ms 5 te-7-4-ar02.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net (68.86.96.198) 9.429 ms 10.701 ms 10.251 ms 6 te-9-1-ar02.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net (68.86.90.210) 13.720 ms 11.470 ms 10.241 ms 7 * * * 8 TenGigabitethernet1-4.ar5.SEA1.gblx.net (64.209.111.93) 13.467 ms 12.165 ms 10.647 ms 9 Prime-Time-Ventures.so-2-1-0.ar2.SEA1.gblx.net (64.212.109.182) 36.033 ms 40.281 ms 36.884 ms 10 gp-edge-04.visp.net (69.9.134.66) 44.607 ms * 39.161 ms -- Steve Equal bytes for women. On Tue, 27 May 2008, Darryl Dunkin wrote: Here is the reverse view from one of my systems on residential Comcast in the Everett/Mill Creek area (source is 76.121.150.xxx): Tracing route to 208.74.128.9 over a maximum of 30 hops 11 ms1 ms1 ms 192.168.254.254 2 *** Request timed out. 3 9 ms *9 ms ge-1-8-ur01.everett.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86.177.117] 410 ms * 18 ms te-9-1-ar01.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86.96.177] 510 ms * 11 ms te-9-1-ar02.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86.96.170] 611 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-8-1-ar02.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86.96.134] 711 ms11 ms12 ms te-9-1-ar02.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86.90.210] 811 ms11 ms12 ms COMCAST-IP-SERVICES.TenGigabitethernet1-4.ar5.SEA1.gblx.net [64.209.111.94] 910 ms11 ms11 ms TenGigabitethernet1-4.ar5.SEA1.gblx.net [64.209.111.93] 1038 ms38 ms39 ms Prime-Time-Ventures.so-2-1-0.ar2.SEA1.gblx.net [64.212.109.182] 1139 ms40 ms38 ms 208.74.128.9 -Original Message- From: Kameron Gasso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 13:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oregon/Washington Comcast outage Looks like I can't reach several of Comcast's fiber/coax customers in Oregon and Washington: grps-edge-rtr-1#trace 75.145.64.XXX Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 75-145-64-XXX-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (75.145.64.XXX) 1 fa-6-0.grps-edge-rtr-2.visp.net (208.74.128.9) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 2 c1-mdfd-s40-visp.mind.net (69.9.134.65) [AS 6296] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 3 so-2-1-0.ar2.SEA1.gblx.net (64.212.109.181) [AS 3549] 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec 4 pos10-0-2488M.cr1.SEA1.gblx.net (67.17.71.182) [AS 3549] !H * !H Our NOC has had several calls from folks using Comcast who weren't able to reach us, and we then confirmed that they had no network connectivity whatsoever... -- Kameron Gasso | Senior Systems Administrator | visp.net Direct: 541-955-6903 | Fax: 541-471-0821
