Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/04/2010 05:53, Seth Mattinen wrote: Don't forget the increased MTU without PPP eating some of it. You get 1500 with PPPoA anyway. You can do it with PPPoE with some jiggery pokery.. that tends to be in the class of 'neat hack' though. Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL1YQ+AAoJEJ1qCQ6ePCDU7IsH/i9RFUvseW9m4fqedaNZu/Q1 cv2wT6IkOFRtl/HiVwXZ6qiQykeEz2A+yBG4QI2Ho1EhYUr4tWlz1JjFGXwx9nKD cSvH5YvmSJl6jSr3Co2hVWuTcB0w7oCet/6maUoyzoyHoIEOzPqhEl8a8/If2SUX G28cmTC2It7IBj7ACIBZA6HjvFVJ6hqCfv8dwewwhDRRSe5YD91YRQ2HsrvDMUQY ybqySe23IfSH2/oxTytdoA371pm1t3pGCTNXqRKIpBJY/UXeki+PezWnbhFSmPGj XXMWY7/P66J4RK6c5Bpx+lCKkbxC+F6U6AUdeKVH8T8wWTJfkTfDIwrwTgJN+N0= =IWIw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/04/2010 08:08, Mark Smith wrote: How much do you understand about IPv6 addressing? Are you aware that IPv6 addresses have explicit preferred and valid lifetimes, and therefore they can change over time? Only via privacy extensions.. and I always switch them off as they're a pain in the neck. Even with those they don't change the prefix. My /48 is allocated to me.. In no sane world would that suddenly change, unless I did something major like change ISP, any more than my v4 address would suddenly change. You're trying to say ipv6 prefixes change randomly over time - just think of the implications if that could happen... even basic things like firewalling would become a nightmare. Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL1Ya9AAoJEJ1qCQ6ePCDU5H0H/RE+eHLqJ/18akk/OQHaGF1H 6DebnteCd73tHzzY+1rNs0yNlOkFIE6u3FSCjRgP0Es+x4K7RjKsBhKzWYxhb+t3 CnPQNySP1diQxhCPZV/aTOC+/hyAKFdsQhz4TKVhMdhbA+K+wqpwUWAAXZMTVpoh GuMdK6EngV0IHw2gMwt+VdLVMbKII2BTiw7GVKnULwWhPUOipfJ0othxPhStULtg 3adZo4ka+129Cpv3Kx0BkMLTLUDneJA8Ia6MgRRz7G9SBlaJQ6J6Oidcp49Ag3SF 4jw+8DhLQbZJPsuRjxcdBYZDEHkVBqTje+KNbp2tuAUUCzqKClOSGycszyfncp0= =MWdV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/04/2010 03:01, Mark Smith wrote: I'm a typical, fairly near future residential customer. I have a NAS that I have movies stored on. My ISP delegates an IPv6 prefix to me with a preferred lifetime of 60 minutes, and a valid lifetime of 90 minutes What ISP would put a 'lifetime' on your ipv6 prefix? That seems insane to me... they should give you a /48 and be done with it. Even the free tunnel brokers do that. But then I never understood dynamic ipv4 either Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL1F0BAAoJEJ1qCQ6ePCDUKnkH/iwae1SessBxQ708eLennoZV Zmy+2jSABgQtY+GTpqkXzn/Tr5tXWJfq4+ONx4N0SfA6e2asKkUtf6+/ZzWx/gUA EmCQ966HIMdJoCGeFc4snCMm6vOe+fqRcZA0BqGbF6bEkctuyEETVlr6jDfFXqcA oFwibApR/GmBOd/1IfMh3dNjHEt4XtfoL9BUqOUiPzfI2+xByaHfh3I04yskFZkf 7EDW+JVbMA9w9Hy6M1nsggHijETpBKiDsHusrFhRaq9h6NdL8Ypf0D4+DIluGuOR zuAcrOCu1dd3Y4fLkOwej7z1C5QDMLluToUQhCljua6agOhzJKsh5u4Acfc0Wik= =NtLo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/04/2010 22:06, Larry Sheldon wrote: The whole idea that DHCP should only be used for (and is absolute proof of the status of) despised-class customers is just nuts. I've never seen DHCP used on residential DSL circuits.. it's all PPP (oA mostly, and oE if you want) in this country (which the telco picks up and sends as L2TP to the DSL provider). I get alocated my /26 and it doesn't matter which LNS I connect to or how I get there (indeed I can talk L2TP directly to the provider to connect over 3G etc.). We do have providers that charge extra for static IP (although it's not as common as it used to be). I just wouldn't pick one that did so as it's not justifiable IMO (my current one gives me as many as I can justify at no cost). Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL1NE6AAoJEJ1qCQ6ePCDUJt4H/inX9ghqyWRnpFNb3s0PRuao bHkU58vpJD3IRiSs69golNrAa9+iZTlfX2wymFedRPoVepFsfAG39rg3I6THj224 LvPgHK1MJWsHjRQedEPdoKGWIUAsPOqbhe7nzlNprZbBcR9tjaf+DlvHA6CJBjPL TqVQTfHnxd39OInwka+ef7bRmSx4bIP/ANTvUy5wKjTBrTZV7s4lR4muTh0VoPaF rJq6VEOz28a/BiwpqqD3Jy5X1n2nAqMb8RJqz/PLLtFjAnBPgqr3a5yaHxWaZ5aH 1WvWPqiLqmR+gNEFX1k7F1Yd5G5eaDwiRAEhhhHg4XT6Zc+2BP1QPqEoanbiuFM= =Xoqj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/04/2010 23:53, Mark Smith wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:17:21 +0100 Tony Hoyle t...@hoyle.me.uk wrote: On 25/04/2010 03:01, Mark Smith wrote: I'm a typical, fairly near future residential customer. I have a NAS that I have movies stored on. My ISP delegates an IPv6 prefix to me with a preferred lifetime of 60 minutes, and a valid lifetime of 90 minutes What ISP would put a 'lifetime' on your ipv6 prefix? Because they loan it to you while you are their customer. Unless you get PI, you don't 'own' your addresses, so you can't take them with you when you change ISPs. In IPv4 a lifetime is implicit, which might be as long/short as while your current connection is up, in IPv6 it is explicit. That's not what 'lifetime' means in this discusion. They're talking about v6 addresses changing when you're with the same provider - indeed, when logged into the same link even. That's insane. A change of ISP is a major change. Your ipv4 addresses will change as well if you change ISP. As you say, if you don't want them to change get PI space. v6 and v4 are no different in this respect. Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL1NRJAAoJEJ1qCQ6ePCDUDeQH/07EZ2uBb5E2Is5juO1NCp4S BYl36VnSIwmadVZpQxJ2tmrJB2jKGV2sV4K0hJ/QRHRNK0k0CJv2k/KWPf8sis6p v6bDjnHD1k4bSTxuwEgRbAbPB5uDpRaw7F2ItgdNKGmf8KZh+tCX4uYZ3Pger0Q9 BEE6y/PjDlgk+ZW+BX6Jgp5raBC9gWu0hiFIhiIRXxmUNgKmJpaRsc6DH5jC5Hch BhrDxvHZCMNpG2KH32w9D955FSHBCt/ih/hNEB36yDTiln4gMx99jKquECeZrujJ zX1+sZ0DtLGR3oFjXyXfVS+8Y13i2fLYfQ1g5l/dhXGGs+Nwwb0ska8K+D5Tza0= =cgpi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/04/2010 00:32, Matthew Palmer wrote: I've been using IPv6 for about 18 seconds, and even *I* know the answer to that one -- the link-local address. It should respond at ff02::2 as well (at least to a ping, so you can get the LL address if you don't know it). Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL1NWbAAoJEJ1qCQ6ePCDU2ScIANFCWKUhc7zfs0ajLL1fkUNe 7DR4LlStfh1XQArQ50eBVmCLpZGrx8bWcluT+PUHSnQve2lLkLKB6MIbrJ4ezc8g sa/hIcpPKioLpAuQr9q3HEPqqiIJ58119wIVGdglWPEeyjlWZih+n6wWoZ4WVeFK aKXXdhE5s8QhZeUEzDioktxl9r1wRQK+ecFYWWF8K9sHd4ePwViyfsk7xnLhaWxp /98BlYGeKMgMfLGH1aNxVYwbEM77KOqXcJbN1Gc2QB03wi4RJyw9/45dR+dzeSbn LrbWmulqBi79Jv9InPY6FNqf8RjYspl2a+hXiRLimW2yNcp19W5f9Wrh1/7v6JE= =3opf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Connectivity to an IPv6-only site
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/04/2010 07:50, Steve Bertrand wrote: This is a no-brainer, because I know that everyone who reads this will visit the link. All I request is an off-list message stating if you could get there or not (it won't be possible to parse my weblogs for those who can't): http://onlyv6.com Works here.. I'd expect anyone with ipv6 connectivity should have no issues. The issues tend to be with dual stack sites where the ipv6 connectivity is broken but the client has (for some reason) picked up a default route... it takes several seconds for the v6 connect to fall back the site appears 'slow' to some users. I also setup an ipv6 only email address (t...@goipv6.org.uk) primarily to see if it got any spam :p Nothing yet.. Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL0gFOAAoJEJ1qCQ6ePCDUZBIH/1kVtmwc67QOfXE92nzM3xFS ytnwoafBKQK9Tm83NzGokVu8UTIOSboOuZ+3YV+83oRmZOnB55wN0cY+TSalwgi0 Qqexs4vxYv5FzrhZAdd6+au/lVERjBCIEmu9JXYFc8+N/KzLHtbmL68qZv3tC6F9 +NexdvK/tkvvjr1EeN7ltOSaMLayozafzOY0r8nmpmosmsikEDtwENPm5N07b9pm ccCu7UMSHPNycjBIX3+JbYxifgWLVCVCE0Anm5bikej3YYTOKNAJCDMbSlKgQNCm DKSvyjI+h3EdjlPtfwuAclBcjP6CW+t8qaHERtnOG0fEZfhoTrffpgwluLUWELY= =l9MS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: IPv6 in Education Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/03/2010 18:16, Bill Stewart wrote: You're either going to have to sell them on future-proofing or We're sailing off the edge of the world in two years, there be dragons there, train your folks now. Most students starting this year will be graduating in 3-4 years time, in a world where IANA depletion will almost certainly have happened and RIR depletion will either have happened or about to happen. If they don't have a working knowledge of ipv6 at that point then they're going to find getting employment a lot tougher. Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLom+OAAoJEJ1qCQ6ePCDUXq8IAJuNSJRJWtVWycsvMiAlE3fv /ZE8WCH0Jeu56l43Jg7QKf85Sad5dV9fxvsM5+cVXKaGHrPV+z+nFQcXA8RIbsvf lEdZFCK/krMUrWmM0mIEAqlB3FZ64L5xI4EqujRgoUVINToAgC3WR2PHXMf07eRn xYeyw+thiC3XYZNEjCJUwNKdH1N6brvsQ7otmZZrgoyO7J9dQAKEccUtc5euR84j kKO7wn+0LCtUqryM1uE+adBOIlWQG7+3WiaVXICMgKRCuYG/17vY4jec/xHgn3vh Wq98kpddrsmWPib6ezdo9yVFL2j0idoSkJ/s/5zjzKoREmWYBb2viYiL6hoX5w0= =ZWSF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: IP4 Space
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/03/2010 16:52, Robert Brockway wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Shon Elliott wrote: I would love to move to IPv6. However, the IPv6 addressing, I have to say, is really tough to remember and understand for most people. Where Hi Shon. But we have a system in place which allows non-technical people to ignore IP addresses entirely. Up to this point the ease of remembering IPv4 addresses has allowed their use to leak out in to the user community. It is quite common today for users to ssh to servers by IP address in many organisations. I consider this an historical accident. It's also not that difficult to remember.. your prefix never changes so that's the first 48-64 bits taken care of. The rest you can make human readable if you want - I know people that use prefix::53 for their nameserver, prefix::80 for their webserver, etc. It's all about how you use it. Personally I use DNS.. that's what it's for. Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLlS6MAAoJEJ1qCQ6ePCDUj+AH/3Kr/FBliJQeCIGSlIEOHm3K TmeGWsfD+cZR/clTN3MNAFtwH63Iowo014zU9kL2AJAkZEVs6LCx0uJ3ewDT+tfb +KGcB4KUjJkaEXxdcjIRIcJrVcW2QnMyFT/J5B+CWM7MhgPzsGL9VLmvKY2LaqBQ coGlfqsg89HTmzlK1McQy+UfhvkJx8bVKgYqHxmHQvIN3GPaWWDjjt50l6oskBy7 F8htD0+O5eM8B7/ozsxeaH7N3gTrZIlEG5MzCvXCxWXyR4wbVssUt9SEF3Gdd9sg aEC6sjUSxL9t7G9a8FyRvwufpQALxJ7mNgozxJPJF8HuHbPnGFL7ZpoH1fph0PI= =AnwO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
