Re: Fwd: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]

2013-06-26 Thread gall
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:52:37 -0400, Anthony Williams 
alby.willi...@verizon.com said:

 Alex:

  You should also get this posted to the NTP.ORG community.

 http://www.pool.ntp.org

It's been marked as inactive since the end of last year
(http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/InactiveTimeServers).  I
don't know if it was in the NTP pool, but I'm sure the ETH folks have
removed it from there as well if it was.

  Also a Usenet posting (who still uses that, right?) to
 comp.protocols.time.ntp will also help get the word out.

 On 6/25/2013 6:33 AM, g...@switch.ch wrote:
 I'm forwarding this heads-up for the shutdown of the well-known NTP
 server swisstime.ethz.ch on behalf of the ETH Zurich.
 

 -Alby

-- 
Alex



Re: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]

2013-06-26 Thread Mike Hughes
On 26 June 2013 04:10, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote:


 On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:37 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu 
 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

  I wonder how long it will take before anybody actually updates their
 config.  I once pulled a stratum-2 out of the clocks.txt file - and was
 still seeing
  several hundred unique hosts per hour poking the IP address for time -
 like over a decade later.

 http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/netgear-sntp/


Would actually be interesting to get a brief update on how many of these
SNTP requests the Madison NTP server still gets.

At the time, Dave hypothesized that the affected devices would have a
half-life of about 5 years - so 10 years on, you would expect this to have
subsided to around 25% of the initially report rate. I wonder if that held
true?

Mike


Re: Fwd: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]

2013-06-25 Thread Anthony Williams

Alex:

 You should also get this posted to the NTP.ORG community.

http://www.pool.ntp.org


 Also a Usenet posting (who still uses that, right?) to
comp.protocols.time.ntp will also help get the word out.






On 6/25/2013 6:33 AM, g...@switch.ch wrote:
 I'm forwarding this heads-up for the shutdown of the well-known NTP
 server swisstime.ethz.ch on behalf of the ETH Zurich.
 



-Alby





Re: Fwd: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]

2013-06-25 Thread staticsafe
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:52:37AM -0400, Anthony Williams wrote:
 
 Alex:
 
  You should also get this posted to the NTP.ORG community.
 
 http://www.pool.ntp.org
 
 
  Also a Usenet posting (who still uses that, right?) to
 comp.protocols.time.ntp will also help get the word out.

Forwarded it to the ntp-pool list.
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Re: Fwd: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]

2013-06-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:33:52 +0200, g...@switch.ch said:

 I'm forwarding this heads-up for the shutdown of the well-known NTP
 server swisstime.ethz.ch on behalf of the ETH Zurich.

I wonder how long it will take before anybody actually updates their config.
I once pulled a stratum-2 out of the clocks.txt file - and was still seeing
several hundred unique hosts per hour poking the IP address for time - like over
a decade later.


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Re: Fwd: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]

2013-06-25 Thread Larry Sheldon

On 6/25/2013 9:52 AM, Anthony Williams wrote:


  Also a Usenet posting (who still uses that, right?) to
comp.protocols.time.ntp will also help get the word out.


There is a fair amount of on-topic traffic of recent vintage on that froup.


What is it about people that makes them free-load on services like NTP 
chimes and DNSBLS but refuse to stay in contact with(or at least 
contactable by) the providers when important stuff is pending?



--
Requiescas in pace o email   Two identifying characteristics
of System Administrators:
Ex turpi causa non oritur actio  Infallibility, and the ability to
learn from their mistakes.
  (Adapted from Stephen Pinker)



Re: Fwd: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]

2013-06-25 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Larry Sheldon larryshel...@cox.net wrote:

 What is it about people that makes them free-load on services like NTP
 chimes and DNSBLS but refuse to stay in contact with(or at least
 contactable by) the providers when important stuff is pending?


Several generations of employees past the ones who made the settings to use
them, and nobody realizes or audits where they are pointed or what they
depend on.


-- 
-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com


Re: Fwd: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]

2013-06-25 Thread Matt Palmer
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 06:38:05PM -0500, Larry Sheldon wrote:
 What is it about people that makes them free-load on services like
 NTP chimes and DNSBLS but refuse to stay in contact with(or at least
 contactable by) the providers when important stuff is pending?

It's on the Internet.  Therefore it must be free.

(See also: TV programs who broadcast youtube videos)

- Matt

-- 
A few minutes ago I attempted to give a flying fsck, but the best I could do
was to watch it skitter across the floor.
-- Anthony de Boer, ASR




Re: [Filtering of NTP-access to swisstime.ethz.ch as of July 1st, 2013]

2013-06-25 Thread Dobbins, Roland

On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:37 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu 
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

 I wonder how long it will take before anybody actually updates their config.  
 I once pulled a stratum-2 out of the clocks.txt file - and was still seeing
 several hundred unique hosts per hour poking the IP address for time - like 
 over a decade later.

http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/netgear-sntp/

---
Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com

  Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.

   -- John Milton