[NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-20 Thread Michal Krsek
Hello,
several months ago we have had a discussion about IPv6 content. There has 
been a proposal that having some adult content IPv6 only should be a good 
idea.

I'm not p0rn hoster, but I'm very close to IP content delivery network for 
Czech public TV. They have news channel (unfortunatelly for most of you in 
czech language) running round the clock.

So we made available their content over IPv6 and made available TV 
resolution for IPv6 only. So if you have IPv6, you will get video content at 
http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp in 720x576 (bitrate ~1.5 Mb/s). If you 
have old IP only, you will see this content only in 320x240 (bitrate ~400 
Kb/s).

This service is experimental, and if you have any ideas, complains or 
questions, please contact me off the list.

Regards
Michal 


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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-20 Thread Max Tulyev
Hello Michael,

I'm getting the permanent error message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/temp $ mplayer http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp
MPlayer dev-SVN-rUNKNOWN-4.1.2 (C) 2000-2008 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500  @ 2.20GHz (Family: 6, Model: 
15, Stepping: 13)
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2

Playing http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp.
Resolving master.nacevi.cz for AF_INET6...
Connecting to server master.nacevi.cz[2a02:1d0:1:0:217:a4ff:feaa:e6f3]: 
80...
STREAM_ASF, URL: http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp
Resolving master.nacevi.cz for AF_INET6...
Connecting to server master.nacevi.cz[2a02:1d0:1:0:217:a4ff:feaa:e6f3]: 
80...
size_confirm mismatch!: 30835 28271
Error while parsing chunk header
Failed, exiting.
Resolving master.nacevi.cz for AF_INET6...
Connecting to server master.nacevi.cz[2a02:1d0:1:0:217:a4ff:feaa:e6f3]: 
80...
Cache size set to 320 KBytes
Cache fill:  0.10% (323 bytes)


Exiting... (End of file)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/temp $ links -dump http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp
Ceska televize (c) 2007 Ceska televize (c) 2007

I'm trying from 2a01:d0:9:0:21c:c0ff:fe23:793f.

Michal Krsek wrote:
> Hello,
> several months ago we have had a discussion about IPv6 content. There has 
> been a proposal that having some adult content IPv6 only should be a good 
> idea.
> 
> I'm not p0rn hoster, but I'm very close to IP content delivery network for 
> Czech public TV. They have news channel (unfortunatelly for most of you in 
> czech language) running round the clock.
> 
> So we made available their content over IPv6 and made available TV 
> resolution for IPv6 only. So if you have IPv6, you will get video content at 
> http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp in 720x576 (bitrate ~1.5 Mb/s). If you 
> have old IP only, you will see this content only in 320x240 (bitrate ~400 
> Kb/s).
> 
> This service is experimental, and if you have any ideas, complains or 
> questions, please contact me off the list.
> 
> Regards
> Michal 
> 
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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-20 Thread Robert E. Seastrom

"Michal Krsek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> several months ago we have had a discussion about IPv6 content. There has 
> been a proposal that having some adult content IPv6 only should be a good 
> idea.
>
> I'm not p0rn hoster, but I'm very close to IP content delivery network for 
> Czech public TV. They have news channel (unfortunatelly for most of you in 
> czech language) running round the clock.
>
> So we made available their content over IPv6 and made available TV 
> resolution for IPv6 only. So if you have IPv6, you will get video content at 
> http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp in 720x576 (bitrate ~1.5 Mb/s). If you 
> have old IP only, you will see this content only in 320x240 (bitrate ~400 
> Kb/s).
>
> This service is experimental, and if you have any ideas, complains or 
> questions, please contact me off the list.

So, we've been native v6 here for a number of years.  Figured I'd give
this a shot, only to be greeted with:

   The application VLC quit unexpectedly

   Mac OS X and other applications are not affected.

As long as we're doing forward-looking, brave-new-world stuff, would
it be asking too much to say "use h.264 or something else 'standard'
for the video"?

Best,
---Rob


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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-20 Thread Nathan Ward
On 20/05/2008, at 11:56 PM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
> "Michal Krsek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>> several months ago we have had a discussion about IPv6 content.  
>> There has
>> been a proposal that having some adult content IPv6 only should be  
>> a good
>> idea.
>>
>> I'm not p0rn hoster, but I'm very close to IP content delivery  
>> network for
>> Czech public TV. They have news channel (unfortunatelly for most of  
>> you in
>> czech language) running round the clock.
>>
>> So we made available their content over IPv6 and made available TV
>> resolution for IPv6 only. So if you have IPv6, you will get video  
>> content at
>> http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp in 720x576 (bitrate ~1.5 Mb/s).  
>> If you
>> have old IP only, you will see this content only in 320x240  
>> (bitrate ~400
>> Kb/s).
>>
>> This service is experimental, and if you have any ideas, complains or
>> questions, please contact me off the list.
>
> So, we've been native v6 here for a number of years.  Figured I'd give
> this a shot, only to be greeted with:
>
>   The application VLC quit unexpectedly
>
>   Mac OS X and other applications are not affected.


Works fine on VLC/OS X for me - but not with flip4mac - flip4mac does  
IPv4 only it seems.

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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-20 Thread GIULIANO (UOL)
Michal,

I can see the video here from Brazil.

The quality is very good, but I am using the Go6 Tunnel to watch it.

Sometimes we have some interruption, but in general it is ok.

Thanks,

Giuliano


> Hello,
> several months ago we have had a discussion about IPv6 content. There has 
> been a proposal that having some adult content IPv6 only should be a good 
> idea.
> 
> I'm not p0rn hoster, but I'm very close to IP content delivery network for 
> Czech public TV. They have news channel (unfortunatelly for most of you in 
> czech language) running round the clock.
> 
> So we made available their content over IPv6 and made available TV 
> resolution for IPv6 only. So if you have IPv6, you will get video content at 
> http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp in 720x576 (bitrate ~1.5 Mb/s). If you 
> have old IP only, you will see this content only in 320x240 (bitrate ~400 
> Kb/s).
> 
> This service is experimental, and if you have any ideas, complains or 
> questions, please contact me off the list.
> 
> Regards
> Michal 
> 
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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Manthey
hello,

works on videolan osx leopard , just a few seconds then it stops ,  
because my connections is not good enough

15:12:25.779523 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: S 613680145:613680145(0)  
win 65535 
15:12:25.852420 IP6 fe80::20f:66ff:fea7:2d48 > ff02::1:ff79:f1e:  
ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has mini.stattfernsehen.com, length 32
15:12:25.852549 IP6 mini.local > fe80::20f:66ff:fea7:2d48: ICMP6,  
neighbor advertisement, tgt is mini.stattfernsehen.com, length 32
15:12:25.853012 IP6 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming >  
mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362: S 963848731:963848731(0) ack 613680146  
win 16384 
15:12:25.853115 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: . ack 1 win 65535
15:12:25.855914 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: P 1:217(216) ack 1 win  
65535
15:12:25.932982 IP6 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming >  
mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362: P 1:145(144) ack 217 win 16864
15:12:25.933132 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: . ack 145 win 65535
15:12:25.933552 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: P 217:329(112) ack 145  
win 65535
15:12:26.009816 IP6 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming >  
mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362: P 145:241(96) ack 329 win 16752
15:12:26.009943 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: . ack 241 win 65535
15:12:26.010238 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: P 329:433(104) ack 241  
win 65535

first time that i ever saw a ipv6 stream by the way 

thank you very much !!!

Marc

>> http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp in 720x576 (bitrate ~1.5 Mb/s).  
>> If you
>> have old IP only, you will see this content only in 320x240  
>> (bitrate ~400
>> Kb/s).

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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-20 Thread Michal Krsek
Dear Marc,
if you (or other users) have not enough capacity for watching 1.5 Mb/s 
stream, you can use lower (comodity) bitrate. You can use comodity URLs:

http://master.nacevi.cz/asx/ct24livewh.asx (400 Kb/s)

http://master.nacevi.cz/asx/ct24livewl.asx (225 Kb/s)

   Regards
 Michal

P.S: Replacing "master" with "master6" will drive you to IPv6 only streams.

P.P.S: Last three RIPE meetings have been broadcasted via IPv6 as well.

> hello,
>
> works on videolan osx leopard , just a few seconds then it stops ,  
> because my connections is not good enough
>
> 15:12:25.779523 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: S 613680145:613680145(0)  
> win 65535  [|tcp]>
> 15:12:25.852420 IP6 fe80::20f:66ff:fea7:2d48 > ff02::1:ff79:f1e:  
> ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has mini.stattfernsehen.com, length 32
> 15:12:25.852549 IP6 mini.local > fe80::20f:66ff:fea7:2d48: ICMP6,  
> neighbor advertisement, tgt is mini.stattfernsehen.com, length 32
> 15:12:25.853012 IP6 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming >  
> mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362: S 963848731:963848731(0) ack 613680146  
> win 16384 
> 15:12:25.853115 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: . ack 1 win 65535
> 15:12:25.855914 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: P 1:217(216) ack 1 win  
> 65535
> 15:12:25.932982 IP6 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming >  
> mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362: P 1:145(144) ack 217 win 16864
> 15:12:25.933132 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: . ack 145 win 65535
> 15:12:25.933552 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: P 217:329(112) ack 145  
> win 65535
> 15:12:26.009816 IP6 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming >  
> mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362: P 145:241(96) ack 329 win 16752
> 15:12:26.009943 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: . ack 241 win 65535
> 15:12:26.010238 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >  
> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: P 329:433(104) ack 241  
> win 65535
>
> first time that i ever saw a ipv6 stream by the way 
>
> thank you very much !!!
>
> Marc
>
>   
>>> http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp in 720x576 (bitrate ~1.5 Mb/s).  
>>> If you
>>> have old IP only, you will see this content only in 320x240  
>>> (bitrate ~400
>>> Kb/s).
>>>   
>
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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Manthey

Am 20.05.2008 um 16:22 schrieb Michal Krsek:

> Dear Marc,
> if you (or other users) have not enough capacity for watching 1.5 Mb/ 
> s stream, you can use lower (comodity) bitrate. You can use comodity  
> URLs:
>
> http://master.nacevi.cz/asx/ct24livewh.asx (400 Kb/s)
>
> http://master.nacevi.cz/asx/ct24livewl.asx (225 Kb/s)
>
>  Regards
>Michal

exellent Michal

is this multicasted ? what server software you use for ipv6 streaming  ?
is there a way to stream via rtp/ rtsp over ipv6 aswell ;) ?


> P.S: Replacing "master" with "master6" will drive you to IPv6 only  
> streams.
>
> P.P.S: Last three RIPE meetings have been broadcasted via IPv6 as  
> well.

cheers


Marc


>> hello,
>>
>> works on videolan osx leopard , just a few seconds then it stops ,   
>> because my connections is not good enough
>>
>> 15:12:25.779523 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >   
>> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: S  
>> 613680145:613680145(0)  win 65535 > 2,nop,nop,timestamp 603390695 0,sackOK, [|tcp]>
>> 15:12:25.852420 IP6 fe80::20f:66ff:fea7:2d48 > ff02::1:ff79:f1e:   
>> ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has mini.stattfernsehen.com,  
>> length 32
>> 15:12:25.852549 IP6 mini.local > fe80::20f:66ff:fea7:2d48: ICMP6,   
>> neighbor advertisement, tgt is mini.stattfernsehen.com, length 32
>> 15:12:25.853012 IP6 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming >   
>> mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362: S 963848731:963848731(0) ack  
>> 613680146  win 16384 
>> 15:12:25.853115 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >   
>> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: . ack 1 win 65535
>> 15:12:25.855914 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >   
>> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: P 1:217(216) ack 1  
>> win  65535
>> 15:12:25.932982 IP6 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming >   
>> mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362: P 1:145(144) ack 217 win 16864
>> 15:12:25.933132 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >   
>> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: . ack 145 win 65535
>> 15:12:25.933552 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >   
>> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: P 217:329(112) ack  
>> 145  win 65535
>> 15:12:26.009816 IP6 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming >   
>> mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362: P 145:241(96) ack 329 win 16752
>> 15:12:26.009943 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >   
>> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: . ack 241 win 65535
>> 15:12:26.010238 IP6 mini.stattfernsehen.com.55362 >   
>> 2a02:1d0:2::217:a4ff:feaa:e6e7.ms-streaming: P 329:433(104) ack  
>> 241  win 65535
>>
>> first time that i ever saw a ipv6 stream by the way 
>>
>> thank you very much !!!
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
 http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp in 720x576 (bitrate ~1.5 Mb/ 
 s).  If you
 have old IP only, you will see this content only in 320x240   
 (bitrate ~400
 Kb/s).

>>
>> --
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>> but to inspire yourself to life."
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>> Marc Manthey - head of research and innovation
>> Hildeboldplatz 1a D - 50672 Köln - Germany
>> Tel.:0049-221-3558032
>> Mobil:0049-1577-3329231
>> jabber :[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> ipv6 http://www.stattfernsehen.com
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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-20 Thread Michal Krsek
Hi Marc,

> > if you (or other users) have not enough capacity for watching 1.5 Mb/
> > s stream, you can use lower (comodity) bitrate. You can use comodity
> > URLs:
> >
> > http://master.nacevi.cz/asx/ct24livewh.asx (400 Kb/s)
> >
> > http://master.nacevi.cz/asx/ct24livewl.asx (225 Kb/s)
>
> exellent Michal
>
> is this multicasted ?

No it is not. I have no reliable access to mbone and multicast penetration 
on public Internet here in central europe is "not very wide". So it makes no 
sense to deal with multicast. Rather I'm investing my time to support IPv6, 
this looks like it has more perspective :-)

> what server software you use for ipv6 streaming  ?

Windows Media Server on top of POS (Picture Operating System - WM 2003 
server).

> is there a way to stream via rtp/ rtsp over ipv6 aswell ;) ?

WM is serving data over rtsp as well as over http. ASX file is only pointer 
to the stream. As I understand the technology, server will negotiate with 
your client and they try to use ports in following order 1775 (mms) -> 554 
(rtsp) -> 80 (http).

Regards
Michal 


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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-21 Thread Stanislav Sedov
On Tue, 20 May 2008 14:52:24 +0300
Max Tulyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:

> Hello Michael,
> 
> I'm getting the permanent error message:
> 

Works fine here. You should try different URL. The page you're
requesting contains an actual URL to the video,
http://cdn4.nacevi.cz//CT24-PAL in IPv6 case.

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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-21 Thread Michal Krsek



Hello Michael,

I'm getting the permanent error message:



Works fine here. You should try different URL. The page you're
requesting contains an actual URL to the video,
http://cdn4.nacevi.cz//CT24-PAL in IPv6 case.

  


Server name is generated dynamically - depends on your IP/IPv6 address.

Not a rocket science behind :-)

Regards
   Michal




Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-21 Thread Sargun Dhillon
I wonder when IPv6porn.com is coming online. We're all waiting on Kevin
Day @ Your.org. The latest mailing list updated was positive [This
morning 5 AM PST8PDT].  Seems DNS has dissapeared for it though. It
should give a decent boost to IPv6 traffic. We're all going to have a
fun time dealing with this once Your.org breaks out  IPv6. :-)

Michal Krsek wrote:
>
>>> Hello Michael,
>>>
>>> I'm getting the permanent error message:
>>> 
>>
>> Works fine here. You should try different URL. The page you're
>> requesting contains an actual URL to the video,
>> http://cdn4.nacevi.cz//CT24-PAL in IPv6 case.
>>
>>   
>
> Server name is generated dynamically - depends on your IP/IPv6 address.
>
> Not a rocket science behind :-)
>
> Regards
>Michal
>
>


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Re: [NANOG] Unique v6 (video) content

2008-05-21 Thread Kevin Day


On May 21, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Sargun Dhillon wrote:

I wonder when IPv6porn.com is coming online. We're all waiting on  
Kevin

Day @ Your.org.


It honestly is coming soon! :) As I mentioned on the mailing list ( http://mail.your.org/pipermail/v6test/2008-May/65.html 
 ), there are some copyright clearance issues causing a bit of a  
delay. Once that's resolved, we'll do a bit of testing with those  
willing to help, then launch.



The latest mailing list updated was positive [This
morning 5 AM PST8PDT].  Seems DNS has dissapeared for it though.


In preparation for launch, all the "real" domains are being moved to  
their correct IPs. Info about the project itself is still available at http://www.ipv6experiment.com 
.



 It should give a decent boost to IPv6 traffic.


If you want advance warning of a decent amount (many gbps) of v6  
traffic being dumped on the world, sign up for the mailing list for  
the countdown. We've got some major mainstream media exposure going to  
happen after we're live that should bring a lot of public attention to  
v6.



We're all going to have a
fun time dealing with this once Your.org breaks out  IPv6. :-)




-- Kevin